Time  Nick              Message
23:20 chris             ahhh
23:18 jdavidb           7:30 PM here.  Just logged on later than usual.
23:18 chris             jdavidb: you are up late
23:18 chris             larsw: yes its safe
23:17 jdavidb           :)
23:17 * munin           reloads and spins the chambers.
23:17 jdavidb           @roulette
23:13 larsw             what do the database-dependent tests actually do? is it safe to run them?
23:05 * wasabi          slaps silly hand with authoritative hand
23:04 chris             nope, just like the manual says :-)
23:03 wasabi            i though build_holds_queue.pl referred to LLEK only holds-tables
23:02 wasabi            ahh, holds-report uses misc/cronjobs/holds/build_holds_queue.pl
22:59 jo                thanks
22:58 wasabi            checks...
22:57 chris             http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/?ch=x6583#holdsqueue
22:56 chris             its definitely not to do with LLEK
22:55 wasabi            twas 1 year since i looked
22:55 wasabi            its refers to LLEK holds stuff i think?
22:55 jo                ok
22:55 wasabi            not really...
22:54 jo                Mason: do you know much about the holds report options in circulation menu
22:54 wasabi            it was a silly question... :p
22:53 chilts            have never seen the need
22:53 * chilts          has _never_ used it
22:53 wasabi            lol, ta :)
22:53 chilts            but if it's broken, it's probably worth re-cloning
22:53 chilts            git fsck gives some diagnostics
22:53 chris             correctness as in what?
22:52 chris             gonna need to use more words wasabi
22:52 wasabi            any good git commands to check a repo's correctness?
21:36 larsw             filing bug about it now
21:36 larsw             I'll figure out the mechanics and include all the translations in the deb at some point
21:36 chris             rl is handy sometimes
21:36 larsw             chris turned around and discussed this with me
21:28 chris             fredericd actually wrote translate ... its nice
21:28 chris             if you run it without options it gives you a nice help page
21:28 larsw             pianohacker, yes, he generally is :)
21:28 pianohacker       larsw: Chris is the person to ask :)
21:28 chris             misc/translator/translate
21:27 chris             :)
21:26 larsw             it seems I need to learn about Koha translations so I can get them included in the Debian packages
21:22 richard           :)
21:22 wizzyrea          perhaps I should go home.
21:22 wizzyrea          richard: I first read that as the "insurrection manual"
21:08 chris             ahh right cool will do
21:07 richard           give me a yell if you want some tips on how to drive it - the website pages are the specs i wrote up for it so might be missing some "instruction manual" type stuff
21:04 chris             ta
21:04 richard           chris: http://demo.kakama.org/
21:02 chris             noice synchronicity :)
21:02 richard           yeah they do
21:01 chris             it will be being used to roster staff for kohacon10 i imagine .. the convention centre use it eh?
21:01 richard           at the moment it's geared more to handle rosterging staff for one-off events
21:01 chris             cool
21:00 richard           the next step for it is to do recurring events to make it more of a roster thing
21:00 chris             and events
21:00 chris             libraries do lots of staff rosters i imagine
21:00 chris             have ppl seen this? http://katipo.co.nz/solutions/kakama/
20:59 chris             sweet
20:59 * richard         hunts up a url
20:59 richard           have one for you already
20:58 chris             richard: i was gonna ask, could i get a demo of kakama set up to try out?
20:55 chris             wizzyrea: i have no idea
20:55 chris             heh
20:52 joetho            if you keep picking items, they will never heal
20:46 wizzyrea          lol, how do you refer to the process of picking items to fill reserves
20:45 wizzyrea          they're like boogers, I can't stop
20:43 chris             stop picking at your items wizzyrea
20:43 chris             morning
20:39 wizzyrea          but if a hold is existent, the item can be PICKED
20:39 wizzyrea          well it looks like you can't *place* a hold on a damaged item
20:33 richard           hi
20:27 owen              gotta go, quittin' time
20:25 * owen            built a PHP script that pulls from our Koha database
20:23 * wizzyrea        pats pianohacker
20:23 pianohacker       I'd like to get down to 5 custom templates someday ;_;
20:22 joetho            I would like to customize ours at some point
20:22 joetho            I figured
20:22 wizzyrea          one of like, 5 templates we have that are custom on the staff side
20:22 * wizzyrea        added it to the template, we have a custom one for that
20:22 joetho            how did you do the barcode?
20:21 wizzyrea          we did the barcode thing
20:21 joetho            I send her anonymous stuff all the time
20:21 owen              The two things we wanted for our holds queue report: Exclude damaged items, and show the barcode.
20:21 joetho            send it to her anonymously
20:21 wizzyrea          don't do that, because we can do that :)
20:21 wizzyrea          it's ok
20:21 owen              I'd have to run a fresh test to really be able to confirm that
20:21 wizzyrea          tenses, I mix them. rock and roll.
20:20 wizzyrea          owen: If the only item that exists for a bib, and it's marked damaged, it picks it?
20:16 wizzyrea          because at least you'd be better than me >.>
20:16 wizzyrea          I could send you some of my code, then you woulnd't be embarrassed.
20:16 wizzyrea          hehe
20:16 wizzyrea          how is id different?
20:16 owen              I'll have to take a look at it to see if I would embarrass myself if anyone saw it
20:15 wizzyrea          some day you must share this with me >.>
20:15 wizzyrea          ooh
20:14 owen              However, we've been using a home-grown report for a while now, so I guess it could have changed.
20:14 owen              wizzyrea: In our experience that was not correct. Our holds queue report would list a damaged item even with other copies available
20:13 wizzyrea          ;)
20:13 wizzyrea          BRING IT
20:13 wizzyrea          item
20:13 wizzyrea          mickey claims that it doesn't pick damaged items if it's the only
20:13 owen              wizzyrea: I don't know, are you ready for the whole "define availability go-round" again? :)
20:12 wizzyrea          bug or feature
20:12 wizzyrea          so
20:11 wizzyrea          AHA
20:11 owen              I think so, but whoever designed the holds queue report disagreed
20:11 wizzyrea          for holds queues?
20:11 wizzyrea          correcT?
20:11 wizzyrea          damaged items should not be pickable
19:42 wizzyrea          and hi
19:42 wizzyrea          ^.^
19:41 wizzyrea          oh I wasn't asking to be promoted... so much responsibility
19:41 brendan           he has OPS
19:40 wizzyrea          sheesh
19:40 wizzyrea          well promote him
19:40 brendan           ;)
19:40 brendan           kind of more fun when munin has OPS
19:08 munin             jdavidb: *click*
19:08 jdavidb           @roulette
19:07 wizzyrea          i know, no images, I'm looking into that part
19:01 wizzyrea          nengard www.koha-community.org/wp-content/uploads/kohadocs/koha3-2manual.pdf
18:53 munin             jdavidb: *click*
18:53 jdavidb           @roulette
18:52 * jdavidb         kicks munin in the shins.
18:52 munin             jdavidb: One would be wise to think so.
18:52 jdavidb           @eightball Will I ever get caught up with stuff here?
18:51 * jwagner         is feeling snarky today
18:51 jwagner           jdavidb, if you WANT to be shot, I'm sure we can oblige :-)
18:51 wizzyrea          bummer.
18:50 munin             wizzyrea: No chance.
18:50 wizzyrea          @eightball Do you know the answer of that burning question I have?
18:50 jdavidb           aw, c'mon...
18:50 munin             jdavidb: *click*
18:50 jdavidb           @roulette
18:50 * jdavidb         grins
18:50 munin             jdavidb: *click*
18:50 jdavidb           @roulette
18:50 wizzyrea          hehe
18:50 munin             jdavidb: *click*
18:50 jdavidb           @roulette
18:50 munin             jdavidb: Quote #43: "< Ropuch> Uh - beware of tea: it can burn your throat" (added by chris at 04:35 AM, October 30, 2009)
18:50 jdavidb           @quote random
18:48 munin             wizzyrea: Quote #14: "joetho: I only looked for missing ccodes- not dysfunctional orphans." (added by wizzyrea at 04:31 PM, July 09, 2009)
18:48 wizzyrea          @quote random
18:47 munin             wizzyrea: Quote #10: "< pianohacker> You helped start an open source project; clearly your sense of what to avoid to make your life easier has been impaired for a while :)" (added by chris at 03:59 PM, June 23, 2009)
18:47 wizzyrea          @quote random
18:47 munin             jwagner: Quote #3: "< bignose-work> the only constant in climate over the next several decades will be that the climate doesn't match what you just got used to." (added by chris at 09:55 PM, June 11, 2009)
18:47 jwagner           @quote random
18:02 chris_n           opps... git blame Members.pm | grep IsMemberBlocked
18:02 chris_n           nengard: git blame foo.pm | grep IsMemberBlocked
18:02 nengard           very cool - thanks for the tips :) maybe an article for the next next newsletter (yes i meant to type next 2 times)
18:01 sekjal            rather than having to read the whole Members.pm file
18:01 chris_n           git blame foo.pm | grep culprits_name
18:01 sekjal            you can specify only the lines for IsMemberBlocked, if you know them
18:01 * chris_n         runs and hides
18:01 nengard           cool
18:01 nengard           ahh
18:01 tomascohen        git blame Members.pm
18:01 nengard           i haven't needed it
18:00 tomascohen        chris_n: its really awesome
18:00 nengard           or what?
18:00 nengard           but what do it give it to get an answer? like do i say git blame IsMemberBlocked ?
18:00 sekjal            nengard: it's really handy.  shows you, line by line, who submitted the commit that added each line to a file
17:59 tomascohen        :D
17:59 tomascohen        i is getting worse
17:59 tomascohen        chris_n: thanks, i'll try.. We have weird behaviour in several cases
17:59 nengard           just fyi
17:59 nengard           or how to use it
17:59 nengard           i don't understand git blame
17:58 chris_n           s/bit/git/
17:58 chris_n           tomascohen: bit blame does
17:58 nengard           heh
17:58 tomascohen        does anyone know who is responsible for the code of "IsMemberBlocked"?
17:58 * chris_n         tries to imagine munin with a 10 gallon hat and cowboy boots on
17:57 collum            :)
17:57 munin             collum: Error: "take_it_easy" is not a valid command.
17:57 collum            munin take_it_easy
17:56 * munin           reloads and spins the chambers.
17:56 wasabi            @roulette
17:56 munin             wasabi: *click*
17:56 wasabi            @roulette
17:56 munin             wasabi: *click*
17:56 wasabi            @roulette
17:55 * munin           reloads and spins the chambers.
17:55 wasabi            @roulette
17:54 * jdavidb         has birthday cookies from a coworker---anyone want some?
17:50 * jdavidb         gets out a slingshot and a bag of Skittles, and prepares to defend himself against munin.
17:49 munin             jdavidb: Karma for "munin" has been increased 8 times and decreased 3 times for a total karma of 5.
17:49 jdavidb           @karma munin
17:48 munin             owen: Error: "is" is not a valid command.
17:48 owen              munin is mad with power I tell you
17:48 * jdavidb         whoops
17:47 * munin           reloads and spins the chambers.
17:47 brendan           @roulette
17:47 jdavidb           It's 3 for 4 since it got an op tag.
17:47 jdavidb           It does!
17:47 owen              jdavidb: munin has it in for you!
17:46 jdavidb           Ah.  Better.
17:46 * munin           reloads and spins the chambers.
17:46 jdavidb           @roulette
17:46 jdavidb           rats.
17:46 munin             jdavidb: *click*
17:46 jdavidb           @roulette
17:45 * jdavidb         tempts fate once more.
17:19 jdavidb           hi, cait! :)
17:05 cait              :)
17:04 jwagner           Hi cait
17:04 cait              hi #koha
16:35 owen              If that is correct I'll revise the bug report and change it to an enhancement asking for the opacSerialDefaultTab preference
16:34 owen              It looks like two of the three items on that list have been pushed. The third one I think not?
16:34 munin             04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3628 normal, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, functionalities not present
16:34 owen              Hi hdl_laptop. I'm looking at Bug 3628 and have a question
16:33 hdl_laptop        I am
16:33 owen              hdl_laptop or paul around?
16:16 CGI401            Thanks....and thanks for the help too!
16:15 wizzyrea          glad you figured it out though :D
16:15 wizzyrea          owch
16:09 CGI401            ditry iptables
16:08 CGI401            Wait for it......................port 8080 was not open to my host
16:08 CGI401            OK - I have resovled the problem and its a pretty basic and embarassing problem!
15:49 CGI401            Even more strange, it was the ports.conf file had a reference to it. That warning is gone now......is there any verbose loggin I can switch on?
15:48 chris_n           that might be an indication that your apache config has a NameVirtualHost * directive somewhere else in the config
15:44 CGI401            But port is up and running fine?
15:44 CGI401            [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts
15:44 CGI401            I noticed this when restarting Apache:
15:38 CGI401            Yep!!!
15:38 chris_n           just a sanity check
15:38 chris_n           I assume that there are two 'listen' lines
15:37 CGI401            so ATM, ports.conf: listen 80, and 81
15:37 CGI401            Sorry, I can see this looks confusing now. At the moment ports are set to listen on 81. I thought there might be a conflict on 8080, I can change back to 8080 to make it read better?
15:36 wizzyrea          depending on which you want to work
15:36 wizzyrea          or listen 8080
15:36 chris_n           CGI401: do you have a 'listen 81' directive in your config?
15:34 CGI401            Same problemo, port 80 comes up fine, nothing on 81
15:33 CGI401            I did that at the start, will try it again, one minute
15:32 wizzyrea          and remove :81
15:32 wizzyrea          try putting in the actual IP of your machine instead of * in front of :80 and :8080
15:32 CGI401            BTW, I changed to port to 81 as you can see
15:31 CGI401            T'wud by handy.........http://pastebin.com/ByKdnf5g
15:31 wizzyrea          link?
15:30 CGI401            That's there now - KohaConfigfile
15:26 wizzyrea          yes please
15:26 CGI401            into pastebin? Yep...
15:26 wizzyrea          sorry, your koha apache config file
15:26 CGI401            koha host?
15:26 wizzyrea          of your koha host
15:26 CGI401            yep.....1 minute
15:25 wizzyrea          maybe it will be illuminating
15:25 wizzyrea          can you paste the contents of that into a pastebin (pastebin.com)
15:25 CGI401            It's the first line but it's commented out by default
15:24 wizzyrea          yep
15:24 CGI401            When you say Koha config, where do you mean? Site-enabled?
15:24 wizzyrea          you may need to comment that out
15:23 wizzyrea          do you have something like NameVirtualHost * in your koha config?
15:22 CGI401            if I swap OPAC and ADMIN ports the same problem occurs, that is, I can then connect to the ADMIN page but not OPAC which is now on 8080
15:21 CGI401            No, It's really strange. I can't get any back from 8080, if I telnet to it locally I get disconnected, although nmap tells me something is there
15:20 bgkriegel         CGI401, have you more than one VirtualHost MYIP:8080?
15:04 CGI401            Anyone!?
15:00 kf                bye all
14:57 wizzyrea          a2dissite default
14:57 CGI401            Tried that, same error
14:57 wizzyrea          you probably need to disable your default interface
14:57 CGI401            Any ideas? This usually just works!
14:57 CGI401            VirtualHost MYIP:8080 overlaps with VirtualHost MYIP:8080, the first has precedence, perhaps you need a NameVirtualHost directive
14:57 CGI401            Hello all, having an apache problem with Koha. Can't get Admin interface up to run the web installer, port 80 is fine. When I restart apache I get this:
14:25 * kf              sends jawagner hot chocolate ;)
14:21 * jwagner_meeting dons sweater in preparation for ice-cold meeting room :-(
14:20 kmkale            Happy B'day Kivutar
14:19 jwagner           :-(
14:18 wizzyrea          I don't hold a lot of hope
14:18 wizzyrea          no, I wish.
14:17 jwagner           morning, wizzyrea -- caught your thieves yet?
13:58 Kivutar           thanks a lot
13:58 Kivutar           :D
13:51 Nate              Happy Burfday jdavidb and Kivutar!
13:50 jdavidb           Happy birthday, Kivutar! :)
13:50 gmcharlt          Kivutar: happy birthday
13:49 chris_n           lol
13:45 gmcharlt          they're so cute at that age ;)
13:44 paul              jdavidb, yep ;-) (although he's only 26. A baby geek :D )
13:43 * jdavidb         perks up.     Kivutar and I share a birthday?
13:43 hdl_laptop        Happy birthday jdavidb and Kivutar
13:09 nengard           so i did perl and that screwed the page up
13:09 nengard           html as a syntax highlight doesn't work
13:09 nengard           okay it's there - i need formatting help though
13:08 chris_n           there was a bunch of stuff which did not get moved over
13:08 gmcharlt          as of a few months ago, I do
13:08 * chris_n         thought someone got a snapshot of the old wiki
13:05 nengard           will find it
13:05 nengard           it was a commented bit of code
13:05 nengard           oh
13:04 nengard           the old wiki is gone so I can't find it - let me check the manual
13:04 nengard           probably an image ...
13:04 nengard           hmmm
13:03 kmkale            # To this:
13:03 kmkale            # At approximately line 38, change this:
13:03 kmkale            #  Copy /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/prog/en/modules/opac-main.tmpl to /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/prog/en/modules/pages.tmpl
13:03 kmkale            nengard: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_as_a_CMS is something missing in these below lines?
12:48 collum            Happy birthday jdavidb
12:48 collum            :)
12:47 jdavidb           collum:  I prefer a Mark-Twain-ish "gom jabbar":  nail them in a barrel with two years worth of food...if they figure out how to escape before the grub runs out, they're intelligent enough to be called human.  If not...well, they won't make more...
12:46 jdavidb           woo hoo!
12:45 gmcharlt          jdavidb: hapy birthday!
12:45 gmcharlt          jwagner: I'll have to disappoint you a bit longer :)
12:44 kmkale            jdavidb: great versioning system. I think I will adapt it too..
12:44 * jwagner         tells people to stop being nice to jdavidb now -- he'll start expecting that every day :-)
12:43 jdavidb           so many, many nice folks....thanks, everyone, for the birthday wishes  :)
12:43 nengard           hehe
12:43 jwagner           nengard and kf, ESPECIALLLY chocolate!
12:43 kmkale            Thanks jwagner
12:43 jwagner           kmkale, congratulations on your announcement!
12:42 kmkale            happy b'day jdavidb
12:42 nengard           kf i'm for finding a way to send any food at all via irc :)
12:42 kmkale            back.
12:35 kf                we need to find a way to send birthday cakes by irc
12:35 * chris_n         wishes jdavidb happy birthday too
12:35 kf                good night chris
12:34 owen              g'morning works for me ;)
12:34 chris_n           errr g'night
12:34 chris_n           g'morning
12:34 chris             ok time for some sleep
12:33 chris             heh
12:31 collum            Paraphrase of Mark Twain's manual.  When they are 13 put them in a barrel with a knot hole to feed them.  When they turn 15 plug up the knot hole.
12:30 kf                :)
12:29 owen              :D
12:29 chris             they wrote the manual, but then the person writing it declared i hate you all, and set it on fire
12:29 chris             it involves lots of door slamming
12:28 owen              I'm still waiting for them to publish a manual for age 13.
12:28 kf                i think i will adapt your versioning system
12:27 jdavidb           My 29th became abandonware after v9.0.  Just had gone too far afield...
12:25 owen              I've had some years that could've used a bug fix or two
12:25 kf                :)
12:25 chris             :)
12:24 jdavidb           It's my 39th birthday, version 4.0.  :)
12:23 jdavidb           Thanks, kf and chris.  :)
12:23 * jdavidb         loves working on a global project.
12:22 chris             hari huri tau ki a koe jdavidb
12:21 kf                happy birthday jdavidb! and Alles Gute zum Geburtstag!
12:21 jdavidb           Thanks, owen! :)
12:21 kf                ooooooh
12:21 owen              Happy birthday jdavidb!
11:54 nengard           so looking at the template for the check out page - and not all of these messages trigger ... uh oh :)
11:41 kf                sorry, phone call
11:41 CGI401            Thanks
11:41 chris             no, it shouldnt be doing any tests the need the db if you choose no, but its safe to ignore for now
11:41 CGI751            hi again KF:
11:40 CGI401            Yes, it did. defaulted to No if I remember correctly. Should I re-run it with that test? or would this message not have appeared if I ran the test first?
11:39 chris             when you ran perl Makefile.PL
11:39 CGI401            When I ran the make test?
11:39 chris             it should have asked you if you wanted to run the db dependant tests
11:38 CGI401            Super! Thanks
11:38 chris             CGI401: yeah you can ignore that one
11:38 nengard           thanks
11:38 nengard           good idea
11:37 chris             yep, checking the template is probably the easiest way
11:37 nengard           right - but i'm trying to trigger them so i can get screenshots for the manual - so i'm looking for a list of things that trigger them :)
11:37 jwagner           nengard, in general any condition that blocks a checkout will bring up one of those boxes.  If all the bugs have been fixed :-) the box will have text in it with the reason for the block.
11:37 nengard           if someone tries to check out an item on hold for someone else
11:37 nengard           you get those yellow pop up boxes
11:37 nengard           when you check things out
11:37 chris             nengard: huh?
11:36 CGI401            I don't even know why it's doing this check as the DB is still empty: DBD::mysql::db selectrow_array failed: Table 'koha.itemdeletelist' doesn't exist at /tmp/harley/blib/PERL_MODULE_DIR/C4/ItemDeleteList.pm line 147.
11:36 nengard           i'm working on a section for the manual with all of the check out warnings that pop up - the yellow boxes - I have found 2 - can someone remind me of triggers for these messages?
11:35 chris             whats the error?
11:35 CGI401            Anyone around to help with an Koha install "make test" error?
11:31 chris             the hail is keeping me awake
11:29 jwagner           morning/evening chris
11:28 francharb         hi chris
11:28 chris             hi jwagner, francharb, nengard
11:24 CGI751            hi jdavidb
11:23 kmkale            hi jdavidb
11:23 CGI751            i test it now
11:23 chris             hi jdavidb
11:22 jdavidb           g'mornin', #koha
11:22 CGI751            my old record is iso2709
11:21 kf                nto sure what standard is, but I think marc21
11:21 kf                and I think you perhaps need to set the marc format to unimarc
11:21 kf                try to use -v for verbose
11:20 CGI751            option =  -file
11:19 kf                which options did you use for import?
11:19 CGI751            message tel me one record importet !!!???
11:19 kf                your records are unimarc?
11:19 CGI751            but when i import it ,
11:18 CGI751            my iso file contain more than 3000 record
11:18 CGI751            no error message
11:18 CGI751            iso2709 to unimarc
11:17 CGI751            koha 3.0.0.6
11:17 kf                CGI751: not sure I can help, but more information is needed here: which version of koha, unimarc or marc? what kind of records are you importiing? error messages?
11:16 CGI751            i test bulkmarcimport.pl script , but it dosn't work ?
11:15 CGI751            what can i import old record into koha library ?
11:15 kf                but before I can answer him, I have to find out why my library cant reset passwords for their borrowers...
11:14 kf                ok - thx a lot.
11:14 CGI751            i install koha 3 succesfully
11:13 chris             kf: have to download them
11:13 CGI751            an expert man can help about koha 3
11:13 chris             lemme look
11:13 kf                does it include translations or do you need to download them?
11:12 chris             larsw is fixing any bugs reported
11:12 kf                ah, but I still have to perl translate install de-DE before I use the web installer?
11:12 CGI751            hi there
11:12 chris             of course, we are still testing the packaging, and there is more work to do but it mostly works :)
11:11 chris             to be running the latest (or close to it)
11:11 chris             apt-get upgrade
11:11 chris             but at the moment it means once you havce installed the package, you can just apt-get update
11:11 kf                really cool - thanx chris! chris++
11:10 chris             until 3.2 is released, and then the stable package will only be updated at each release, and the unstable one will track master again (maybe :))
11:10 kf                larsw++
11:10 kf                cool
11:10 kf                oh
11:09 kf                ok, I think its without german web installer files and german interface should work, but not sure how old the files are, better download from pootle
11:09 chris             its running the latest code from master, everyday
11:09 kf                but where can I see now what version that is? how old?
11:09 kf                3.2-master?
11:09 chris             master is what will be 3.2
11:08 kf                'Until Koha 3.2 is released, the Koha packages will be built from the master branch, for the squeeze-dev pocket. When Koha 3.2 releases, packages for the squeeze pocket will be built from the 3.2 branch.'
11:08 chris             no
11:08 kf                so master branch is 3.0?
11:08 chris             heh i guess so :)
11:07 kf                he wrote to my mail address yesterday and now to list, really want to answer today
11:07 chris             hi kf
11:07 kf                hi chris
11:07 chris             http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian#Update_policy
11:06 chris             kf: so the short answer is its built from master, until a 3.2 branch is created, then it will be built from there
11:05 chris             yep, its on the list
11:05 gmcharlt          thought at some point debian packages of Koha translations would be nice
11:05 chris             and 2b2434ef is the commit
11:04 chris             tells you it was updated today
11:04 chris             20100608105233.2b2434ef
11:04 chris             see that number there?
11:04 chris             http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/pool/main/k/koha/
11:03 chris             master
10:54 kf                there is a question on German mailing list "how to install German translation during installation" and it depends on version :)
10:53 kf                which version is the debian repository?
10:51 munin             kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Germany is 23.1�C (12:54 PM CEST on June 08, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008.0 hPa (Rising).
10:51 kf                @wunder Konstanz
09:59 munin             Amit: The current temperature in Bangalore, India is 29.0�C (2:30 PM IST on June 08, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 20.0�C.
09:59 Amit              @weather Bangalore
09:59 munin             Amit: The current temperature in Dehradun, India is 31.0�C (2:30 PM IST on June 08, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa.
09:59 Amit              @weather Dehradun
09:59 munin             Amit: The current temperature in New Delhi, India is 25.0�C (3:00 PM IST on June 08, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady).
09:59 Amit              @weather New Delhi
09:23 * richard         wanders off
09:20 richard           hi chris
08:46 hdl_laptop        hi chris
08:44 chris             hi hdl_laptop
08:37 hdl_laptop        hi all
08:01 Elwell            no worries
07:57 * chris           wonders if richard is around?
07:57 kmkale            thanks chris
07:56 chris             Elwell++ #for the pod fixes
07:55 chris             granthalaya.org++
07:55 kmkale            Thanks. Good projects like Granthalaya.org need all the support we can get
07:52 Amit              good idea
07:51 kmkale            yes Amit
07:51 Amit              kmkale: i m seeing your mail on koha mailing list
07:51 Amit              kmkale: i seeing your mail on koha mailing list
07:12 kmkale            hi Amit
07:12 Amit              heya kf, kmkale, paul
07:09 paul              hello world
07:01 kf                morning #koha
06:46 kmkale            Good afternoon
06:25 munin             indradg_: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 36.0�C (11:50 AM IST on June 08, 2010). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 28.0�C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady).
06:25 indradg_          @weather kolkata
06:07 munin             Elwell: The current temperature in Christchurch, New Zealand is 5.0�C (6:00 PM NZST on June 08, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Windchill: 0.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
06:07 Elwell            @weather christchurch, nz
05:47 Amit              hi indradg
05:34 indradg_          Amit, ping
03:31 wizzyrea_laptop   well, here it's more an issue of UN dressing properly
03:31 chris             :)
03:30 larsw             it's just a matter of dressing properly...
03:29 wizzyrea_laptop   brr
03:29 chris             (with the windchill)
03:29 chris             metservice say 6, feels like -1
03:29 chris             yeah its not warm
03:28 munin             wizzyrea_laptop: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 22.5�C (10:31 PM CDT on June 07, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1011.7 hPa (Rising).
03:28 wizzyrea_laptop   @weather lawrence, KS
03:27 richard           was 6 deg in brooklyn 20 mins ago - according to my car anyway
03:24 munin             chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 8.0�C (3:00 PM NZST on June 08, 2010). Conditions: Rain Showers. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady).
03:24 chris             @weather wellington,nz
03:23 munin             Amit: The current temperature in New Delhi, India is 21.0�C (8:30 AM IST on June 08, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 21.0�C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady).
03:23 Amit              @weather New Delhi
03:23 munin             Amit: The current temperature in Bangalore, India is 21.0�C (5:30 AM IST on June 08, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 19.0�C.
03:23 Amit              @weather Bangalore
03:23 munin             Amit: The current temperature in Dehradun, India is 22.0�C (5:30 AM IST on June 08, 2010). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa.
03:23 Amit              @weather Dehradun
03:23 Amit              heya chris
02:19 chris             oh nice email from atz
02:04 wizzyrea_laptop   thanks :)
02:04 chris             wb wizzyrea_laptop
01:59 larsw             ice hockey, shearing... reasons to not have a tv :)
01:59 reed              and it's something Jan would even like
01:59 chris             maybe we could build them a website
01:59 reed              yeah, seen bits
01:58 chris             http://www.goldenshears.co.nz/
01:58 chris             you can catch it on tv usually
01:58 chris             heh
01:56 reed              golden
01:56 reed              short train ride from here I think
01:56 reed              we should all go see the gold shears competition when it happens next
01:54 chris_n           I must say that after staring at a computer screen all day, some good old-fashioned hard work makes for a nice change
01:52 * chris           makes up a new rule :)
01:52 larsw             chris, thanks for the warning, I'll be leaving on the next ship :)
01:52 * chris_n         winces
01:52 larsw             well, s/buy/borrow/
01:52 chris             you're not an nzer until you have had a ram head butt you in the crotch
01:52 chris_n           lol
01:52 larsw             if I could buy a 600mm lens for an APC-C sized sensor, or effectively 960 mm, I could experience sheep from quite far away -- but that might still be close enough :)
01:51 chris             oh yeah, shearers have some of the softest hands in the world :-)
01:51 chris_n           it was amazing to me how much lanolin there was in the fleece
01:51 chris             i used to be able to do one in about that time .. with electric shears :)
01:51 * chris_n         invites larsw to the country :)
01:50 chris             doubly impressive
01:50 chris_n           no nicks either
01:50 chris             impressive
01:50 chris_n           this lady did it in about 15 min
01:50 larsw             sheep. I have not seen enough sheep in NZ yet. must fix.
01:50 chris             that takes a lot of skill
01:50 chris_n           it did not look fun for either the person or the sheep
01:49 chris_n           I saw a sheep sheared with hand shears the other weekend
01:49 chris             really hard on the back
01:49 chris             shearing you go grab a new one each time
01:49 chris             basically someone jsut keeps dragging new ones over and you stay in a crouch
01:48 chris             the thing that gets you in crutching, is unlike full shearing, you dont get to stand up between sheep
01:48 chris_n           ouch
01:48 chris             ah yeah, with a big group of kids, that'd be fun ;)
01:47 chris             http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crutching
01:47 * larsw           realizes how urban he is
01:47 chris             it still is better than crutching though
01:47 chris_n           it was a blast
01:47 chris_n           we actually had about 15 kids helping
01:47 chris_n           hehe
01:47 chris_n           yeah, it will burn you up if you're not careful
01:47 chris             fun times :)
01:47 chris             and by the end of the day, my arms were shot, so i couldnt throw them high enough and they would bounce off the stack and hit me on the head
01:46 * chris_n         runs the baler and lets the kids do the pickup work
01:46 chris             need good leather gloves, or that baling twine shreds your hands
01:46 chris             i remember throwing them up onto the back of the truck, that followed the tractor
01:46 chris             right
01:45 chris_n           we do round ones too, but the small ones make more $$$
01:45 chris_n           yup
01:45 chris             the rage here is now round ones
01:45 chris             do you do rectangle bales?
01:45 chris_n           it's a tough job, but my children enjoy it (especially the selling part ;)
01:44 chris             thats a lot of hay
01:44 chris_n           that makes 1150 bales between this evening and Saturday
01:42 chris             hay baling was one of my least favourite holiday jobs
01:41 chris             yikes
01:41 * chris_n         drags by after another 650 bales of straw :-P