Time  Nick            Message
23:58 smatrinidad     They were NOT there originally, and it still hadn't worked, but that was before the a2dissite command to disable the default site.
23:58 smatrinidad     Now that I have removed those, it appears to be working.
23:57 smatrinidad     It said I needed to add some lines to /etc/apache2/httpd.conf but those lines turned out to be getting in the way of the ones from the koha files.
23:56 smatrinidad     I had followed the instructions and gone to the Apache httpd manual's information about virtual hosts.
23:55 smatrinidad     Found the problem while awaiting a response.
23:36 smatrinidad     Guess not.
23:30 smatrinidad     Trying again.  Any answers?
23:16 smatrinidad     Same on port 8080
23:16 smatrinidad     Instead, it gives me a directory listing of /usr/share/koha
23:15 smatrinidad     Just undid all my edits then did the a2dissite, and now the default "It works!" doesn't show up any more.
23:09 smatrinidad     The strange thing is that, when I first started experimenting with Koha over a year ago, none of this stuff was necessary - it just installed without all the rest of these steps.  Now that I'm trying 3.0.6 on a fresh Debian installation, the installation seems to involve a lot more than I remember.
23:04 smatrinidad     The command "sudo a2dissite default" may be a quick fix, but may have side-effects.  See the Apache HTTPD manual section on virtual hosts for full instructions.
23:04 smatrinidad     Thus, I was trying other things first.
23:04 smatrinidad     Ah.  The dissite command IS mentioned in the instructions, but it also says it may have undesireable side effects.
23:03 brendan         sorry typo in there -- that should be an e not a 3
23:03 brendan         then you'll need to create an symbolic link from your koha-httpd.conf -->  into the /etc/apach32/sites-available/ directory
23:03 smatrinidad     Okay.  How would I disable that first site?  I tried moving  000-default to another name then linking koha to 000-default, thinking that would make Koha the default, but that didn't change anything.
23:02 brendan         I forget the command - but you could google it - it's something like -->  a2dissite default
23:02 smatrinidad     I hardly have any experience with this end of apache, and the apache manual didn't help, since I don't know what I am trying to find.
23:02 brendan         well one thing to do first is to disable the default apache site
23:01 smatrinidad     I've edited all kinds of things relating to that (with restarting apache each time), and still have wasted the entire day getting nowhere.
23:00 smatrinidad     That's the problem: the instructions mention that, but don't say EXACTLY what needs to be changed - just some nebulous information about virtualhosts.
22:59 brendan         did you edit the koha-httpd.conf file or move that into the right spot?
22:59 smatrinidad     I've gotten to the end and it appears I need to change some apache file, since I'm not getting to the Koha stuff - only to "It works!"
22:58 smatrinidad     Anyone here able to help with 3.0.6 installation?
21:59 nengard         he he
21:51 wizzyrea        http://blog.hartwork.org/__images/wtfm_thom_holwerda.jpg
21:16 cait            w
21:16 cait            quality contact was missing, will resend patch tomorro
21:05 chris_n         bbl
21:05 * chris_n       has not received it either
21:05 munin           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3682 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, message type in messaging table not translatable
21:05 cait            bug 3682
21:04 chris_n         cait: which bug?
20:50 cait            hm is there a problem with the mailing lists? I send a patch and changed the bug several times, but got no mails
20:35 schuster        have a nice weekend everyone - I'll be trying to get that Debian squeeze up and running with Koha from Lars instructions.
20:28 wizzyrea        I think she's gone for the day
20:14 cait            nengard: around?
20:11 pianohackr|work Maybe that'll work
20:11 pianohackr|work Waiting for a nice, vlan-capable switch in the mail?
20:09 wizzyrea        I guess that wasn't the news he was hoping for
19:57 wizzyrea        killin bugs, making great software, the usual. :)
19:54 D_Ulm           Hello all, what is the news?
19:46 jccurtis        does anyone here use the google books option?
19:40 pianohackr|work schuster: Yup, at a library in the area
19:39 pianohackr|work hi wizzy
19:39 schuster        pianohackr|work - so are you really working someplace?
19:21 wizzyrea        PHW
19:16 pianohackr|work hi owen
19:15 owen            Hi pianohackr|work
18:10 braedon|home    s/inded/indeed/
18:09 braedon|home    inded
18:09 chris_n         in the faq I referenced earlier
18:08 chris_n         that information would be found here: http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/#20
18:04 braedon|home    if i remeber correctly...
18:04 braedon|home    " -b -a -z" shouldn't work
18:04 braedon|home    but that looks likely at the moment
18:04 braedon|home    if "-b -a -r" doesn't work*
18:04 braedon|home    well, if "-b -a -r" there may well be other issues
18:03 firstborn       i gues nothing to do with the versions or bugs if any
18:01 braedon|home    "-b -a -z" is used in cron jobs to process the zebra queue
18:00 braedon|home    to do a complete rebuild, use "-b -a -r"
18:00 braedon|home    if i remember correctly
18:00 braedon|home    it doesn't search the database
17:59 braedon|home    using -z only adds items in the zebraqueue
17:59 braedon|home    that would be your problem
17:58 firstborn       debian 5.0.2 koha 3.00.03
17:58 firstborn       retored from a another machine similar in OS debian lenny and same koha version .....rebuils uisng -b-a-z
17:50 chris_n         also have you run rebuild_zebra.pl with -v to see if there are any indexing errors?
17:49 chris_n         firstborn: is this a fresh install? and what version?
17:49 braedon|home    when you call rebuild_zebra, what options do you give it? " -b -a -z" or " -b -a -r"?
17:48 firstborn       ya did again jus nw
17:47 chris_n         firstborn: so you have been through the FAQ?
17:47 firstborn       sure chris_n i wil repeat the procedure...i guess it should work
17:46 chris_n         if no, you probably should first
17:46 chris_n         firstborn: have you gone through all of this: http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/
17:45 cait            :)
17:45 firstborn       check on the databse and its same MB size as the backup database
17:45 * chris_n       's fingers got crossed on the keyboard :)
17:45 cait            ah, sorry
17:44 cait            chris_n: vine?
17:44 wizzyrea        or any one of the several things listed on the faq
17:44 wizzyrea        or with the wrong user
17:44 braedon|home    if the reindex is not picking data up, you may be calling it with the wrong options for the task
17:43 chris_n         fine even
17:43 chris_n         cait: that should be vine
17:43 braedon|home    if the data is intact, there a bunch of options reindex can be called with, that modify what is reindexed, and how.
17:42 braedon|home    well, reindexing will only work if the data is actually there - if this is in doubt a check of the database should probably be your first port of call
17:41 firstborn       is reindexing the only solution so that data r searcable
17:41 firstborn       is it better than mysqladmin...braedon/home
17:41 braedon|home    hey, that is profiling! -'s are resource names too!
17:39 jccurtis        that dash looks suspicious
17:39 jccurtis        anyone know why opac-search.pl would be calling /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/-
17:39 * braedon|home  just got the other meaning of "Access" if that is what you were meaning - awake for 30 hours on 3 hours sleep...
17:37 braedon|home    though you could always script a query to check :)
17:37 munin           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3682 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, message type in messaging table not translatable
17:37 cait            bug 3682: ok to change message_name to varchar(40)?
17:37 braedon|home    hmm, you probably do have "Access"... more meaning with something useful like phpmyadmin :P
17:36 firstborn       ya i do have...access
17:36 braedon|home    do you have database access? could check the tables manually
17:35 firstborn       what im worried is that are my data restored in the new server...since not searcable
17:34 wizzyrea        heh
17:34 * braedon|home  has previously found issues with the options usually used
17:33 braedon|home    firstborn: have a look at some of the rebuild options
17:33 braedon|home    wizzyrea: 'grats on the ops :P
17:31 firstborn       yeah .... search in patrons shows data but catalogue search and opac not displayed
17:29 wizzyrea        so new stuff is getting indexed, but the old stuff isn't?
17:29 firstborn       i did rebuild zebra but negativw
17:28 firstborn       otherwise biblio created manually no problem
17:28 wizzyrea        did you reindex after doing that?
17:28 firstborn       thanx wizzyrea...but it happened after restoring mysql using mysql administrator in debian lenny
17:27 wizzyrea        any of those seem like they might be aplicable?
17:27 wizzyrea        for firstborn
17:27 wizzyrea        http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/
17:27 * jdavidb       falls out of his chair laughing.
17:27 cait            lol
17:26 cait            hey
17:26 * munin         reloads and spins the chambers.
17:26 jdavidb         @roulette
17:26 jdavidb         darn.
17:26 munin           cait: *click*
17:26 cait            @roulette
17:26 firstborn       its regarding data not searchable in koha....any suggestions
17:26 * cait          is afraid of being locked out again g
17:26 munin           jdavidb: *click*
17:26 jdavidb         @roulette
17:26 munin           jdavidb: *click*
17:26 jdavidb         @roulette
17:26 jdavidb         hm...
17:26 cait            can i get ops?
17:26 wizzyrea        firstborn: of cours
17:26 munin           jdavidb: *click*
17:26 jdavidb         @roulette
17:26 * wizzyrea      didn't even know she had ops until 2 minutes ago ^.^
17:25 firstborn       can i post a question
17:25 firstborn       hi folks
17:25 gmcharlt        somebody may have thought that +m would do something else
17:25 gmcharlt        note that IRC modes aren't the same on all servers
17:25 gmcharlt        wizzyrea: dunno
17:21 wizzyrea        did someone do that on purpose or is it just chance
17:21 jwagner         "women and children first to the lifeboats!"
17:20 wizzyrea        HA. Oh lordie.
17:20 * jdavidb       wondered when wizzyrea would notice that she *is* an op.
17:19 wizzyrea        there are lots of ops now
17:19 wizzyrea        wow
17:19 wizzyrea        OH
17:19 jccurtis        [Fri Jun 04 11:52:48 2010] [error] [client 192.168.168.101] script not found or unable to stat: /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/-, referer: http://192.168.168.8/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=thomas
17:19 jccurtis        [Fri Jun 04 11:52:47 2010] [error] [client 192.168.168.101] [Fri Jun  4 11:52:47 2010] opac-search.pl: "my" variable $content_type masks earlier declaration in same scope at /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/opac-search.pl line 582., referer: http://192.168.168.8/cgi-bin/koha/opac-main.pl
17:18 jccurtis        here's one:
17:18 jccurtis        noticed a few things that i can't figure out
17:18 jccurtis        and i've been going through the error logs
17:18 jccurtis        and today i upgraded to 3.0.6
17:18 jccurtis        about a year ago i set up a koha server for my seminary
17:17 jccurtis        ok
17:17 jwagner         jccurtis, go ahead & ask
17:17 cait            thx
17:17 * cait          is really relieved now
17:17 jwagner         welcome back cait
17:16 jccurtis        could i ask a few questions about koha?
17:16 cait            :)
17:16 cait            im back
17:16 cait            hey
17:16 cait            t
17:16 jccurtis        thanks gmcharlt
17:16 * jwagner       warns people to beware of jdavidb when he's speaking nice about someone....
17:15 gmcharlt        that was the problem
17:15 * gmcharlt      wonders who set +m on this channel
17:15 gmcharlt        cait: please try speaking now
17:15 jccurtis        aha
17:15 jccurtis        test
17:15 jdavidb         See, I can't imagine anyone wanting to speak ill of sweet cait, though.
17:15 * jwagner       snickers
17:15 gmcharlt        then rejoin
17:15 gmcharlt        jwagner: if they haven't already, they should try /part
17:14 jdavidb         ...aaaand she just did.
17:14 jdavidb         no doubt.
17:14 jwagner         jdavidb, she'll get you in private!
17:14 wizzyrea        ;)
17:14 wizzyrea        if we kicked it
17:14 wizzyrea        it would be nice bc then someone would have ops
17:14 jdavidb         ooo...so we can speak ill of cait, and she can't reply in kind?   ooooooo
17:14 wizzyrea        well
17:13 jwagner         Does the IRC need another smack upside the head?
17:13 * owen          coughs into the microphone
17:13 gmcharlt        odd
17:13 wizzyrea        same with cait
17:13 jwagner         I have a private message from user jccurtis who says he can read the main channel but when he tries to post, he gets #koha Cannot send to channel
17:13 wizzyrea        some people can't send I guess
17:13 wizzyrea        is there something up with the channel
17:13 gmcharlt        what's up, jwagner ?
17:13 gmcharlt        briefly
17:12 jwagner         gmcharlt or chris, online?
17:09 wizzyrea        heya
17:09 jwagner         hi wizzyrea.
17:08 * wizzyrea      waves at Cait
17:08 * wizzyrea      waves at jwagner
17:08 jdavidb         Hi, wizzyrea! :D
17:08 * wizzyrea      waves at jdavidb
17:08 wizzyrea        oh
17:08 wizzyrea        hello
17:08 * jdavidb       smiles happily.  jwagner only harrumphs at people she approves of somewhat.  Complete disapproval brings a more-negative response.
17:07 * jwagner       harrumphs in jdavidb's direction
17:06 * jdavidb       waves to cait.
16:31 Colin           Anyone have any experience with open source software for records management ?
16:23 owen            Oh, I didn't have anything in my message_transports table.
16:21 owen            I don't think I'm making progress
16:21 owen            Before: http://screencast.com/t/Nzk5OGQ3MDEt After: http://screencast.com/t/NmM5MzQzM2E
16:16 * owen          is familiar with this phenomenon
16:15 jdavidb         IIRC, yes.  jwagner has an issue with verb tenses at times.  'know' != 'knew'.
16:15 owen            jdavidb: From message_transport_types.sql ?
16:14 brendan         Nate+o
16:14 jdavidb         yes.  In the case I recall, one of the message transports simply didn't exist in the table.  getting them back in with the default SQL fixed it, for me
16:13 owen            Problem with my database?
16:13 owen            I'm seeing off columns in my patron messaging preferences
16:13 owen            jwagner says you know of a bug where the message transports table isn't right?
16:12 nengard         very goofy too
16:12 Colin           just never call him square
16:12 nengard         ha
16:12 wizzyrea        tee hee
16:12 * jdavidb       is very round, yes.
16:11 owen            jdavidb around?
15:54 cait            hi #koha
15:53 munin           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2001 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, unAPI doesn't work without public-facing zebra server running on port 9998
15:53 owen            Anyone know if Bug 2001 can be marked fixed?
15:48 Colin           There are perl modules and then there are Koha perl modules
15:46 owen            The "six impossible things before breakfast" quote doesn't apply to Perl modules before lunch.
15:44 jcamins         I think I'll just rerun the report as I get through the 16 results that come up. Understanding Reports.pm and Reports/Guided.pm is a bit much for before lunch.
15:41 nengard         i'll also probably add screenshots
15:41 nengard         fyi - re the appendix - i didn't write it - the staff at VOKAL did - the credit is in the XML, but  not the HTML yet - I may be editing it once I look into this process more
15:40 Colin           jcamins: look for LIMIT 20 in Reports.pm
15:39 nengard         owen closing
15:39 Colin           wizzyrea: more than 16 it used to be 20
15:38 nengard         owen - going to check
15:37 munin           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3972 normal, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, Locked Budget Showing X and non active budget empty
15:37 owen            nengard: Re: Bug 3972, that template has changed a couple of times since first reported
15:35 Colin           I think its less, (but more than 16) I know at the UN on install it was low enough to make all sql reports little more than headers.
15:29 wizzyrea        ^^ but I thought it was 9999 rows
15:27 Colin           jcamins: theres a hardcoded maxrows that needs to be upped
15:27 nengard         wizzyrea, yes, thanks
15:26 jcamins         Is there any way to persuade SQL reports to return more than 16 rows?
15:14 jcamins         (just read the Appendix on handling on order items)
15:14 jcamins         nengard++
15:12 wizzyrea        this one?
15:12 wizzyrea        http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/?ch=a9384
15:07 nengard         order :)
15:07 nengard         something about on oder
15:07 nengard         ummm
15:03 wizzyrea        (want to make sure it came over)
15:03 wizzyrea        what's the label of the appendix?
15:01 wizzyrea        ya, sec
15:01 nengard         wizzyrea can you do a pull of the manual? i added a new appendix i want to link to
15:01 nengard         :)
14:53 wizzyrea        nengard++
14:50 munin           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2434 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED, Remove unimplemented upcoming events message
14:50 nengard         bug 2434 patch sent
14:44 gmcharlt        yep
14:41 owen            And no news is good news?
14:40 gmcharlt        xt/author/test_template.pl /path/to/template /path/to/incude > /dev/null
14:40 owen            Sorry, you lost me
14:39 gmcharlt        the error message is sent to STDERR
14:39 gmcharlt        owen: pipe stdout to /dev/null
14:38 owen            gmcharlt: Okay, running that spat out a bunch of HTML, but I don't see error messages.
14:36 gmcharlt        owen: good so far, but there's a second param - path to the template include dir
14:36 jwagner         nengard, go for it.
14:36 nengard         using jquery is an option - but it seems like a workaround - not a fix
14:36 nengard         is anyone opposed to me writing a patch to remove upcoming events completely? since it's not implemented and caused problems for librarians and patrons alike?
14:35 owen            gmcharlt: xt/author/test_template.pl /path/to/template ?
14:33 owen            Thanks jwagner, that was just the path I was heading down.
14:32 jwagner_meeting owen, catching up a bit, " weird column in patron messaging prefs" -- I've seen that when the message transports table isn't right.  There was a bug at some point with the installation.  jdavidb knows the fix.
14:32 wizzyrea        ta da!
14:32 munin           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2434 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Disable Enhanced Messaging Columns Not In Use
14:32 wizzyrea        bug 2434
14:32 wizzyrea        according to the latest thing
14:32 wizzyrea        it was never implemented I guess
14:32 wizzyrea        and actually
14:32 gmcharlt        owen: xt/author/test_template.pl
14:32 wizzyrea        yep, I agree
14:31 nengard         wizzyrea - no i didn't - but if you need more software to use it it shoiuld be optional - not on all machines
14:31 gmcharlt        owen: yes, there's a way to check validity of an individual template
14:31 wizzyrea        let me go back and look... bev told me at one point
14:31 ray             ok tnx! IRC is a great help!
14:31 nengard         what additional software?
14:31 wizzyrea        did you see that I added a jquery statement to remove it?
14:30 wizzyrea        nengard: it does do something, but you have to have additional software
14:30 nengard         yes ray
14:30 nengard         if it does nothing...
14:30 nengard         so - what's stopping us from removing it from the db?
14:30 owen            nengard: I think the upcoming events line is part of the default database setup
14:30 ray             in the full item call number textbox?
14:30 ray             ahm.. ok. its in the item level that i should write the copyright?
14:29 nengard         and while we're on the topic - can we please please please remove upcoming evnets since it does nothing? or if it does something now can you tell me what it does?
14:29 nengard         owen i just checked and i don't see that form that way on any page...
14:28 nengard         you'll have to type the copyright in yourself when adding an item
14:28 ray             is there any option?
14:28 nengard         ah yeah - you can't do that
14:28 ray             3.0.6
14:28 ray             i tried to edit the global preference itemcallnumber and add 260c but still no luck
14:28 owen            ray are you talking about the add item interface? What version of Koha?
14:27 ray             but i want to add the copyright date
14:26 ray             in default i can only add classification and item number
14:25 ray             how can i add the copyright date as part of item call number using dewey classification?
14:24 * magnus        starts the weekend
14:24 owen            Everywhere I see that form. In this case memberentry.pl
14:23 nengard         what page was that on?
14:23 nengard         owen never saw it before
14:22 owen            Anyone familiar with this weird column in patron messaging prefs? http://screencast.com/t/Nzk5OGQ3MDEt
14:20 magnus          "update systempreferences set value = '3.0100129' where variable = 'Version';" did the trick for me
14:19 nengard         look at all that stuff i missed - off to update the manual
14:18 nengard         woo hoo
14:18 * owen          has his edit_items permission now
14:18 Colin           Patch the version back to 3.0100129 and let the installer do its magic
14:18 owen            nengard: Update your version sys pref to 3.0100129 instead of 3.0200129
14:17 nengard         what field do we update to trick the system into upgrading?
14:17 nengard         so how do we fix this?
14:16 owen            Oh duh... I didn't even notice that wrong 2 in 3.0200129
14:16 Colin           if the insraller ran before that fix all subsequent updates will be ignored
14:16 nengard         same here
14:15 magnus          "fix typo in DBrev - should be 3.01.00.129"?
14:15 Colin           Galen fixed an earlier error that upped us to 3.2
14:15 Colin           Try this  git show e8291a15
14:13 nengard         magnus - i'm pulling form k-c
14:12 magnus          could it have something to do with k.org vs k-c.org? i guess i'm still pulling from git.koha.org
14:10 nengard         all kinds of screwy going on here
14:10 nengard         HA!
14:10 Colin           nengard I restored from a backup it thought it was 3.2.129  not 3.1.129 !!
14:09 nengard         :(
14:09 chris_n         nengard, owen: fwiw, fetch and rebase resulted in a db update for me
14:06 frido           see u ;)
14:06 nengard         np
14:06 nahuel          thanks nengard
14:06 nahuel          :)
14:06 nengard         added a note to the bug nahuel to ask why it's a pref
14:06 frido           thanks for your help
14:05 frido           it's very usefull
14:04 frido           yes, thanks, i'am aware of that
14:04 nengard         so basically we need to go back and figure out where in our upgrade process our systems thought they were version 129
14:04 sekjal          frido: it's a Linux kernel convention, using even numbers for stable releases and odd for development
14:04 Colin           nengard: happens for me too
14:04 chris_n         frido: just as 3.2 is done under 3.1.x
14:03 sekjal          nengard: yes
14:03 chris_n         frido: 3.4 development will be done under 3.3.x revs
14:03 nengard         sekjal are you checking your version to see if you too have an issue like owen and magnus and I?
14:03 nengard         and i do agree this one shouldn't be a pref it should be in the itemtypes or circ rules
14:03 nahuel          nengard, like all our users :)
14:03 frido           why no 3.3 ?
14:03 nahuel          héhé
14:03 nengard         as long as i have control i don't care where it is
14:03 nahuel          nengard, like this one :)
14:03 nengard         nahuel this is true!
14:02 frido           yes, i know, but it could be
14:02 nahuel          nengard, control option can be outside of sysprefs
14:02 nahuel          nengard, ok that's why there is weird :)
14:02 sekjal          but once that's all set, full speed ahead on 3.4!
14:02 nengard         which means i like a lot of control options
14:02 nengard         but i'm also a control freak
14:02 sekjal          frido:  we're still working on getting 3.2 out the door
14:02 nengard         yes I am :)
14:02 nahuel          :)
14:02 nahuel          nengard, are you crazy ?
14:02 nengard         it's the only way for libraries to do things the way they want - and they all want diff things
14:02 frido           ok
14:02 nengard         nahuel - there are never enough sysprefs :) hehe
14:02 sekjal          frido: no
14:01 frido           Is there any version of 3.4 ?
14:01 nahuel          I think we have enough sysprefs
14:01 sekjal          it would probably require a new page/tab/section in the already complex circ rules area, but yes, I think it should be there rather than preferences
14:01 owen            nengard: I agree
14:01 nahuel          nengard, better : in itemtypes settings
14:01 nengard         why does it have to be a pref at all - shouldn't it go with the circ rules?
14:01 nahuel          i'm afraid....
14:00 nahuel          sekjal, developpers doesn't know : CHECKBOXES !
14:00 nengard         does seem a bit sloppy
14:00 nahuel          ....
14:00 sekjal          I suppose its a list of which item types the patron can have concurrent holds on within a single biblio
14:00 munin           04Bug 4239: enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Allow holds on multiple items of selected titles
14:00 nahuel          nengard, http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4239
14:00 nahuel          Do developpers have users ?
14:00 nengard         nahuel, what bug is that?
14:00 nahuel          it's a ... well...
13:59 sekjal          nahuel: I'm not sure why the space separated list to solve that issue... its a bit confusing
13:59 sekjal          so, it seems that the desynchronization is either coming from the 3.01.00.136 DB rev, or is local to some systems.  will git pull and report back
13:58 nahuel          why use a syspref for that ?
13:58 nahuel          what is this shit
13:58 frido           chris_n : ok, i have 3.2 alpha 2
13:58 nahuel          ?????
13:58 nahuel          someone from USA should explain me ... WTF : http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=1927
13:58 sekjal          my repo is a little behind (3.01.00.135), and the version syspref is the same as the About page.
13:57 chris_n         frido: C4::Search is slated for a re-write for 3.4 so you might file that bug against rel_3.4
13:55 frido           in addition : link in details page should be "?idx=su&q=fantasy" instead of "?q=su:fantasy"
13:52 frido           i think in this case facets shouldn't appear
13:51 frido           i might add it to bugzilla
13:51 kf              time to leave - bye all
13:50 frido           so it's a real bug ?
13:50 nengard         the real question is why do our systems think they're so far ahead?
13:50 kf              fell= feel
13:50 kf              owen+nengard: now i fell alone
13:50 nengard         it didn't trigger because our systems think they're at a higher version
13:49 owen            No, I was hoping someone would weigh in with an idea as to why it didn't trigger itself
13:49 nengard         owen did you change that to trigger the update?
13:48 nahuel          i think it's what happening
13:48 nahuel          frido, yep
13:48 nengard         owen - me too!! I have 129 in my version pref
13:47 frido           right ?
13:47 frido           therefore facets doesn't work
13:47 frido           but in this case, limits are not used
13:47 frido           that's what i noticed
13:47 nahuel          koha doesn't add any other stuff
13:47 nahuel          afaik is there is ccl in query, only the ccl query is passed to zebra
13:46 frido           it is done by Search.pm no ?
13:46 nahuel          :)
13:46 nahuel          no
13:46 frido           yes, so limit should be converted in CCL language
13:45 nahuel          by zebra
13:45 frido           search is directly computed
13:45 nahuel          before, the "ccl=" is detected
13:44 frido           I sow in C4/Search.pm that if ":" is detected in query
13:44 frido           so the URL of facet is : "opac-search.pl?q=ccl=su:fantasy&limit=branch:BR"
13:43 frido           facets add a limit like "&limit=branch:BR"
13:42 nahuel          strange
13:42 frido           yes
13:42 nahuel          in normal view ?
13:42 frido           the link to subject : "/opac-search.pl?q=su:fantasy"
13:41 frido           i had this bug when using a link in details page
13:41 nahuel          let me find the bugfix
13:41 frido           yes, made a mistake
13:41 nahuel          I fixed a bug of facets, that works if you're on the first result page, but not in the next ones
13:40 nahuel          directly in search box
13:40 nahuel          you can do ti=captain
13:40 nahuel          why do you do a ccl query ?
13:40 frido           in this case facets links does'nt work, results are the same has without facet limit
13:39 frido           this means a CCL query directly in URL : opac-search?q=ccl=ti:captain
13:38 frido           in seach box
13:38 frido           for example : "ti:captain"
13:38 nahuel          what's the bug ?
13:38 frido           i noticed a bug on facets when using special queries
13:38 nahuel          no :)
13:37 frido           my english is not too bad yet ?
13:37 nahuel          :)
13:37 frido           ah thanks
13:37 nahuel          on freenode #koha-fr
13:37 magnus          "About Koha" seems to get it's number from here: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=kohaversion.pl;hb=HEAD
13:37 nahuel          we have a french channel frido
13:37 nahuel          :)
13:36 frido           i think i found a bug
13:36 owen            Hi frido
13:36 frido           hie i'm a french web developper
13:34 magnus          they deserve it
13:34 magnus          someone++
13:32 munin           owen: someone has neutral karma.
13:32 owen            @karma someone
13:29 magnus          s/a nd/and/
13:29 magnus          thanks kf, owen a nd someone
13:28 magnus          "select value from systempreferences where variable = 'version';" reports 3.0200129, about says .136
13:28 owen            And someone told me! Thanks someone!
13:28 kf              owen told me :)
13:27 magnus          kf: thanks, cool!
13:25 kf              magnus: you can use: ...koha/admin/systempreferences.pl to see the old editor
13:23 kf              but my test installation is not very old
13:22 magnus          "No system preferences matched your search for version."
13:22 kf              my version is 3.0100136 in about and old syspref editor
13:22 owen            kf: I think that's by design?
13:22 kf              hm version is missing from the new syspref editor
13:21 hdl_laptop      there must have been a wrong dbversion number
13:21 gmcharlt        kf: yes, I will
13:21 hdl_laptop      oops.
13:20 owen            My about page says 3.01.00.136 but my "version" system pref says 3.0200129
13:20 kf              hdl_laptop: really need to learn more about perl
13:19 kf              gmcharlt: are you going to push the granular permissions for serials too? need to add all those permissions to my translated sql files
13:19 hdl_laptop      which is somehow more handy
13:19 hdl_laptop      kf : but you can do qq{ my beatifull "laundry"}
13:19 kf              hdl_laptop: thx
13:18 hdl_laptop      kf: qq{ stands for double quote
13:17 kf              ok, I just wondered about the difference to print hold notice update 135
13:17 magnus          http://perldoc.perl.org/functions/qq.html
13:17 magnus          http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl;hb=HEAD#l3618
13:15 kf              qq?
13:15 kf              $dbh->do(qq{
13:14 magnus          thanks kf, i have edit_catalogue and fast_cataloging, not edit_items
13:13 kf              has someone looked at updatedatabase.pl?
13:12 owen            I wonder if the database update just didn't trigger for us for some reason?
13:10 kf              the second
13:10 kf              its an option under editcatalogue
13:10 magnus          um, where is edit_items supposed to be?
13:10 kf              and that change is older
13:09 kf              perhaps it was already there before update? I only saw the print hold notice update message
13:09 kf              :(
13:08 kf              I dont know?
13:08 nengard         kf ... hmmm - how did you get edit_items...
13:08 nengard         i love not being alone ;)
13:08 kf              i have edit_items, edit_catalogue and fast_cataloging
13:08 nengard         magnus - me too
13:08 nengard         good
13:07 * magnus        did a straight "git pull" and was not prompted to update the database either, "About Koha" reports version .136
13:07 nengard         me too
13:07 owen            I see edit_catalogue and fast_cataloging
13:06 owen            Under the editcatalogue permission?
13:06 kf              no, same for me
13:06 nengard         do you have the edit items permission that we're supposed to have?
13:05 nengard         so i'm not alone ...
13:05 owen            nengard: I wasn't prompted to update my database this morning after a fetch and rebase
13:00 nengard         gmcharlt, any ideas about my rebase issue?
12:55 kf              testing your patch for opac confirmation messages
12:55 kf              owen++
12:55 * owen          thinks he has the batch-del error fixed, would like to test again
12:54 owen            gmcharlt: Is it possible to run the script on just one file?
12:42 owen            I'm trying to run prove xt/author/valid-templates.t, seems to be hung up at "300/?"
12:41 gmcharlt        owen: ?
12:41 owen            gmcharlt?
12:21 * owen          figures ops is wasted on him since he comes and goes
12:21 octothorpesarus oops
12:20 octothorpesarus s
12:20 jdavidb         Holy crap we have an owen!  :)  Mornin', owen.
12:19 owen            Holy crap we have a topic!
12:15 Mulki           Test
12:13 munin           Mulki: Error: "seek" is not a valid command.
12:13 Mulki           @seek koha
12:11 Mulki           Test
12:08 kf              I updated my test installation earlier today, I only had an update for hold print notices
12:06 nengard         okay - yes, my version of koha says 136 but i wasn't prompted to upgrade the db and i don't have the new permission ... do i need to rewind something?
12:03 nengard         oh - wait ....
12:01 nengard         I was going to document it, but I wasn't prompted to upgrade my db and the permission isn't there .. ideas?
12:01 nengard         I have rebased and my version says 136 but I don't see the new permission
12:01 nengard         gmcharlt got a question about the last commit last night ...
11:48 jwagner         Morning, kf
11:48 jwagner         jdavidb, kick save & a beauty!
11:47 kf              hi and thx gmcharlt :) (for pushing my monster patch)
11:47 kf              robbed my colleague all his xslt books :)
11:46 jdavidb         Hi, kf.  :D
11:46 kf              hi jwagner and jdavidb
11:37 jdavidb         hee hee.
11:37 gmcharlt        jdavidb: um, oops? ;)
11:37 jdavidb         oh, lordy.  no one tell jwagner about the /kick command...I'll get no peace at all.
11:37 gmcharlt        jwagner: just keep in mind that topics should always include a reference to the LCSH authority record
11:34 jwagner         heh heh heh....
11:32 Colin           lets not get crazed with all this power
11:28 * jwagner       could think of a few things to do :-)
11:28 gmcharlt        jwagner: nothing, necessarily - the main thing ops do in this channel is change the channel topic
11:28 gmcharlt        so I'm spreading it around
11:28 jwagner         I have channel op?  What do I do with it?
11:28 gmcharlt        looks like the IRC server hiccuped, and when it came back, munin had op
11:27 munin           gmcharlt: Error: "be" is not a valid command.
11:27 gmcharlt        munin: be quiet
11:27 munin           gmcharlt: Error: "signs?" is not a valid command.
11:27 gmcharlt        @ signs?  probably your IRC client telling you who has channel op
11:27 jwagner         What's with the @ signs?
11:26 jwagner         Morning, all...
11:25 gmcharlt        hi hdl_laptop
11:22 hdl_laptop      hi gmcharlt
11:18 jdavidb         howdy, #koha. :)
11:12 * chris_n       cheers
10:32 kf              thx Elwell :)
10:32 kf              hi chris_n
10:29 Elwell          http://www.biblibre.com/en/blogs/philippe-chabanon via RSS
10:29 chris_n         g'morning
10:29 chris_n         ops++
10:28 kf              Elwell: what posting?
10:24 * Elwell        raises an eyebrow at the biblibre recrute posting, but decides Marseille is way to far from Aix ;-)
10:20 munin           gmcharlt: Quote #21: "<owen> I think we need more quotes!" (added by jdavidb at 12:18 PM, August 06, 2009)
10:20 gmcharlt        @quote random
08:55 kmkale          Hi Amit \
08:53 Amit            heya kmkale
08:49 magnus          np
08:48 Mirbolt         thanks for confirming the lack of nulls magnus
08:48 Mirbolt         i recently reinstalled koha and reloaded the data from a backup, which has proved to contain dodgy data, the items.holdingbranch was missing data for about 200 records, i now suspect the issues table must get it from somewhere other than the items table though
08:44 magnus          not sure what might cause your NULLs, though
08:44 magnus          i have an issues table with 11909 rows, none of which has a NULL for branchcode
08:43 Mirbolt         i am getting about half half with null and a valid branchcode, i thought that data should come from the item table, but as the item has the correct data i'm wondering if it's missing from somewhere else...
08:41 Mirbolt         i am getting a few random nulls in branch code as well
08:41 Mirbolt         hmm ok thanks, well good to know those ones should be null
08:40 magnus          i seem to have lot of NULLs in these columns: issuingbranch | returndate |lastreneweddate | return | renewals
08:36 magnus          Mirbolt: could you give us some examples of the data you are seeing?
08:35 Mirbolt         hmm, is there anyone out there? or is my slow connection just not working...
08:29 Mirbolt         hi there, could someone possibly copy and paste me one row from their 'issues' table? i am seeing some null values in mine and am wondering what others are looking like
08:20 kf              first really sunny day for weeks = first day back at work after vacation
08:19 kmkale          :(
08:19 munin           kmkale: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 33.0�C (1:10 PM IST on June 04, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 24.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Falling).
08:19 kmkale          @weather Mumbai
08:13 munin           kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 16.0�C (10:00 AM CEST on June 04, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Rising).
08:13 kf              @wunder Konstanz
08:11 magnus          hm...
08:11 munin           magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 6.0�C (9:50 AM CEST on June 04, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 0.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
08:11 magnus          @wunder bodo, norway
08:10 kmkale          hi magnus
08:09 magnus          s/hiyq/hiya/ ;-)
08:09 kf              hi magnus
08:08 magnus          hiyq kmkale, kf
07:56 kmkale          hi kf
07:56 kf              hi kmkale
07:54 kmkale          good afternoon
06:48 kf              hi Amit
06:45 Amit            heya kf
06:44 kf              good morning #koha
06:03 cait            bbl
05:32 cait            hi Amit
05:28 Amit            heya cait
05:10 cait            good morning #koha
03:39 brendan         night
03:38 * chris_n       heads off to sleep
03:35 munin           brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 16.1�C (8:35 PM PDT on June 03, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.85 in 1010.7 hPa (Steady).
03:35 brendan         @weather 93117
03:29 munin           Amit: The current temperature in Bangalore, India is 25.0�C (8:30 AM IST on June 04, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 20.0�C.
03:29 Amit            @weather Bangalore, India
03:29 munin           Amit: The current temperature in Dehradun, India is 30.0�C (8:30 AM IST on June 04, 2010). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 29.61 in 1002 hPa.
03:29 Amit            @weather Dehradun, India
03:29 munin           Amit: The current temperature in New Delhi, India is 30.0�C (8:30 AM IST on June 04, 2010). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady).
03:29 Amit            @weather New Delhi, India
03:23 Amit            heya robin
03:21 robin           chris is not here. He's in Blenheim.
03:21 brendan         heya Amit
03:21 Amit            heya brendan, chris
03:17 brendan         he's been here a few times - so it wasn't a total "WTF"
03:17 brendan         it was kind of fun watching chris in Texas with tipping ;)
03:17 * chris_n       usually sticks to sign language when in MX
03:16 robin           brendan: yeah, that'll be weird. No one here will know how to handle that.
03:16 brendan         koha in Honduras++
03:15 CGI102          Night.
03:15 brendan         night
03:15 brendan         wait until some of these americans start hitting NZ - and tipping everyone
03:15 CGI102          Okay.  Enough Spanish 101 for tonight.  Time for me to go onward to 3.0.6.  Thanks again.
03:14 brendan         *sigh* good ole Americans and their traveling knowledge or cockiness
03:13 CGI102          What they should ask is "Cuanto cuesta?" or "Cuanto vale?"
03:12 CGI102          Americans who learn just a few words of Spanish go to Spanish speaking countries and they know that "como" means "how" and "mucho" means "much," so they ask for the price of something by saying "como much," which actually means "I eat a lot."  LOL!
03:11 CGI102          brendan, a better story is one that really DOES happen...
03:11 robin           CGI102: hey, a lot of people still use The GIMP, despite it having a stupid name :)
03:11 CGI102          Well, thanks for the info.  Guess I'll go for 3.0.6, after all.
03:10 brendan         teachers here in the US who teach spanish love to tell that story though
03:10 brendan         larsw++
03:10 CGI102          After all, "Nova" is the Latin root of "nueva" or "new."
03:09 chris_n         lol
03:09 larsw           gmcharlt, just checking that you actually read all the patches :)
03:09 CGI102          chris_n, the "Nova" story is apocryphal.  In fact, the Nova was VERY popular in Mexico.
03:08 brendan         you'll just need to pronounce it differently (cause the harley release "or whatever" has the Koha name all over it)
03:08 CGI102          I remember the last time I started looking at this, it looked as though it would be a real pain to remove all references to the word "Koha," including logos, etc.
03:08 chris_n         sort of reminds me of the Chevy Nova
03:07 robin           that's a bit unfortunate :)
03:07 brendan         heh
03:06 CGI102          To be honest, my hope of using Harley was not because the name was Harley, but because it was NOT Koha (which, phonetically - actual word "coja" - means "lame" in Spanish).
03:04 CGI102          Other things delayed working on it back then, but now I'm ready to proceed.
03:03 brendan         awesome
03:03 larsw           robin, I did one string, that's enough for me for now :)
03:03 robin           larsw: you should complete the fins and zweeds translations :)
03:03 CGI102          No.  I discovered it a little over a year ago while doing a LOT of searching.
03:03 brendan         do you know of others in Honduras using koha?
03:02 brendan         wow that's great
03:02 brendan         sounds like the best bet
03:02 CGI102          (I'm in Honduras.)
03:02 CGI102          Okay.  Maybe I should just get 3.0.6, then.  Not all of these users can read English, so the Spanish part is critical.
03:01 brendan         http://translate.koha-community.org/
03:01 chris_n         miguel or miguelxercode could help you there
03:01 brendan         best place to look at the amount of tranlsation that has been done - is tranlsate
03:00 chris_n         3.0.6 does iirc
03:00 chris_n         CGI102: we are not that familiar with harley... sorry
03:00 * brendan       doesn't know the translations of harley
03:00 CGI102          Okay.  Then does 3.0.6 have full Spanish?
03:00 brendan         I think you'll have to test that yourself to determine stability --> we've got a customer on aplha and they are running fine
03:00 chris_n         alpha2 is getting pretty close
03:00 CGI102          BTW, does Harely have full Spanish translation, already, or must I use one of the Koha distros for that?
03:00 chris_n         you want 3.0.6 if you need super stable
02:59 chris_n         CGI102: missing deps and incorrect docs does not sound stable to me
02:59 brendan         well it least it's not a honda riceburner
02:59 CGI102          Well, let me ask this, instead: This is going to be installed in a place where the users are NOT that computer literate, so I want whichever will be the most stable.
02:58 chris_n         "pull in harley"
02:58 brendan         heh
02:58 chris_n         why do I think of a garage?
02:58 brendan         with git you could install 3.2-aplha2 and also use git to pull in harley (for testing)
02:58 chris_n         3.0.6 is probably your best shot then
02:57 brendan         the best IMO would be to give git a shot
02:57 chris_n         or even 3.0.6 from downloads.koha-community.org
02:57 CGI102          Okay.  Maybe I'll try then.  Was hoping to do this tonight, while I'm at home.
02:57 brendan         chris_n++
02:57 * chris_n       recommends grabbing the current alpha2 from git.koha-community.org
02:56 chris_n         CGI102: you'll have to ask when jwagner or jdavidb are around... usually working hours EDT
02:56 CGI102          distribution.
02:56 CGI102          Specifically, it tells you to download Koha, not Harley, and then it mentions a dependency file that doesn't exist within the Harley distrubution.
02:55 CGI102          Anyone here have any good information about installing Harley on Debian Lenny?  The instruction file that comes with Harley has inaccurate information.
02:53 CGI102          Hello.  Couldn't get my IRC client to work (it used to), so I'm on the web-based one.
02:28 gmcharlt        well, they're pretty easy-going guys, and they do accept patches
02:24 chris_n         the others are beyond me
02:23 chris_n         I even offered to send a patch for one fix
02:23 * chris_n       will become pestersome if he does not hear back for awhile
02:23 chris_n         well, I just filed three bugs with them, so we'll see
02:18 gmcharlt        yeah, that's been a longstanding issue
02:06 * chris_n       thinks indexdata really should keep the url's required in their test suite uptodate
01:52 munin           New commit(s) kohagit: set DBrev to 136 for previous patch to add edit_items <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=72fb44ce26da21348785bacd2b153f4e01bf176b> / MT2938 : Adds a permission for editing items <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=39d70cf05bf8633d96c4e38bb88815a38925f918>
01:30 chris_n         I'm fairly sure it is platform specific
01:29 gmcharlt        well, drop Mike Taylor a line
01:29 chris_n         for some reason extra libraries passed in do not get added to the Makefile on Win32
01:29 chris_n         anyway, I'm going to open another, but I'm not sure if it is a bug there or with E::U
01:28 chris_n         well, there is at least one open bug against the Makefile.PL which was to be fixed in the "next release" back in 2009, but there has been no next release
01:27 gmcharlt        is there a specific bug?
01:26 gmcharlt        chris_n: well, indexdata is the current maintainer, but they don't do release just for the heck of it
01:25 * chris_n       notices that the last release was in 2008
01:25 chris_n         gmcharlt: is Net-Z3950-ZOOM still maintained?
01:02 munin           New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 3081, Url's contain spaces <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ad1047dce7f3ae29ebd8fcffc621ba82317ec7ff>
00:52 munin           New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 3770, 'Add to list' page only allows adding to private lists <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=dfb2c774353ad609cb112f317feb67d74d30230d> / Fix for Bug 3722 - Branch deletion results in incorrect message <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6af71b5f8dc1b0849f561aabffb5d292f7ae9229> / Fix for Bug 3926, inadvertantly resurrected by me. <http://git.koha-commu
00:49 munin           gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.
00:49 gmcharlt        @later tell owen I can haz fix of structure error in tools/batchMod-del.tmpl soon, please?
00:30 munin           New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 3992 - New Sys Prefs Branch - Local Use Tab not Highlighted <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c6b94ab730fb5941319b5246484c3af6b320686b>
00:10 munin           New commit(s) kohagit: bug 4205 remove extra 'plan by' option <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c4f7259cc1a160abed701007244c320be53c15ab>
00:00 gmcharlt        cool
00:00 larsw           gmcharlt, ook, then I won't bother building packages just now; will do on Tuesday when I'm back to work
00:00 gmcharlt        larsw: yes, I am - I don't expect there to be a particular stopping point as such over the next four days,
00:00 munin           New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 4844 Remove a circular dependency in koha_perl_deps.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e08d35bdc32b4dfada80d0018f66457846e6b298> / Fix for Bug 4504, Confirmation messages in opac account not translated <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=58969c958ca7ddbac52cb1f48c9db0ccb73b5e54>