Time  Nick       Message
00:50 brendan    boo
02:10 jdavidb    howdy, #koha.
02:11 brendan    heya jdavidb
02:11 jdavidb    :)
02:12 jdavidb    <--Dave, the subway fugitive, not a slave to fashion, bongo-boy Bavousett.    And karma to the first person who knows where I stole that.  :P
03:36 munin      New commit(s) kohagit: bug 4816: require authentication for placerequest.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ede20857ea5b3744a58ba2bdd73d56a117c8e210> / bug 4386: fix email hold filled notifications <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=71a215f4bf777dac710a63f3ca79af0c7f5c9d2e> / removed needless imports of the YAML module <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ef
06:35 larsw      I would like to add a page to the wiki for the Debian apt repository for Koha packages I am setting up
06:35 larsw      what would be a good location?
06:35 larsw      just http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian ?
06:38 larsw      hmm... Europe is awakening, US is going to bed, and it's past office hours in NZ
06:38 larsw      not the best time to ask
06:39 larsw      I'll go for /Debian and let someone rename if it is a bad idea
06:40 hdl_laptop larsw: hi
06:40 larsw      hi, hdl_laptop
06:40 hdl_laptop maybe wiki/Packaging/Debian could be a better idea
06:41 hdl_laptop or add a category Packaging ?
06:42 larsw      hmm
06:42 larsw      I'm not sure if a category for installation instructions might not be better
06:43 larsw      I'll leave the text on http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/README for now, and will ask for suggestions on the wiki page when nengard is awake
06:54 eiro       hallo koha people
06:59 Amit       heya eiro
07:04 eiro       hi amit
08:24 chris      cait: do you have a sec?
08:24 chris      can you test pootle for me?
08:25 cait       hi chris
08:25 cait       sure
08:25 chris      thanks
08:26 cait       I saw the projects when I was not logged in, after login they are all gone and I get the "You don't have permission to access this page." message
08:29 chris      hmm ok
08:29 chris      so the opposite heh
08:29 * chris    tries again
08:30 cait       hm better than yesterday
08:30 cait       never saw the projects yesterday
08:43 chris      now?
08:44 * chris    loves this http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/README
08:45 magnus     yep, that is super-cool
08:45 chris      especially this bit
08:45 chris      Length of README files
08:45 chris      ----------------------
08:45 chris      This README file is silly long, but hopefully all the important
08:45 chris      stuff is at the beginning.
08:45 chris      :)
08:45 magnus     :-)
08:46 chris      magnus: lars is finnish ... so sorta a neighbour (although he lives here now :))
08:47 magnus     heh, the name did sound kind of familiar :-)
08:48 magnus     would you please give him a pat on the back from me next time you see him? he's doing some great work (i know nothing about deb packaging, but i can tell we are getting closer and closer to "apt-get install koha", which i know is a cool thing! ;-)
08:50 cait       chris: sorry, testing now
08:53 cait       chris: now I dont see the projects logged out and logged in :(
08:53 cait       http://translate.koha.org/de gives the error message
08:54 chris      dang
08:54 chris      magnus: i just did an apt-get install koha .. and it worked :)
08:56 magnus     chris: i did one a few minutes ago, on a vm i used for something else earlier, and had a couple of problems. trying on a new vm now, to see if i can reproduce them
08:56 chris      it'll need to be running squeeze
08:58 magnus     yup
09:01 chris      cait: ... how about now?
09:04 Amit       heya magnus
09:04 magnus     hi Amit
09:06 chris      (as user Cait)
09:07 chris      and maybe try as katrin too
09:07 Oak        heya chris
09:08 chris      hi Oak
09:14 nahuel     lars++ :)
09:18 cait       chris: dont know the password for Cait
09:19 chris      ahh but can you see them not logged in?
09:19 cait       yes
09:25 cait       ok, im confused, let me test again
09:30 chris      :)
09:32 chris      i think ive managed to fix the db ... mostly
09:37 cait       chris++ #for fixing pootle
09:38 chris      mostly fixed
09:38 chris      but working again :)
09:39 cait       thanks chris!
09:40 chris      np, i learnt lots about django and sqlite doing it
09:41 cait       always look on the positive things :)
09:43 cait       its nice to be at my father's, but dont get much done :)
09:43 cait       ok, wrong window *sigh*
09:43 cait       :)
09:44 magnus     chris: did you have trouble starting apache after apt-get install, because mod_rewrite isn't enabled?
09:45 chris      ahh no, but i would have
09:45 chris      (i already had mod_rewrite enabled)
09:45 chris      thats worth reporting to lars
09:46 magnus     hm, should that be files as a bug or just replied to his mail on the list?
09:46 magnus     s/files/filed/
09:47 chris      might be good to file them in bugs.koha-community.org and assign them to lars (he is in there )
09:48 magnus     ok, will do
09:49 chris      there is a packaging component, whack it under there
10:01 cait       not sure how to translate "Change Service Requested" in hold print notice
10:02 cait       not sure what the meaning is
10:05 cait       hm.
10:26 reed       hellow, I accidentally made a patch for bug4460 and now I'm slightly confused about the submission process
10:26 reed       I send it to the patches list? or attach to the bug?
10:26 reed       both?
10:28 chris      both
10:29 reed       cool
10:29 reed       also, http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git
10:29 reed       is ref'ing the old mailing list address
10:29 chris      ahh ill fix that
10:29 chris      and then change the priority on the bug to patch-sent
10:29 reed       ok
10:34 chris      accidental_bug_fixing++
10:38 reed       was fun
10:39 reed       what version of git has a 'send-email' option?
10:39 reed       mine don't
10:40 reed       am using 1.5.6
10:40 reed       lenny machine (reedzig)
10:42 chris      git-mail i think
10:42 chris      apt-get install git-mail (or git-email)
10:43 chris      debian packages them separately, git-core then git-whateveritis
10:47 magnus     chris: does selecting a version make sense when reporting the mod_rewrite-bug?
10:55 chris      not really, but i would note the package number
10:55 chris      in the notes
10:57 magnus     um, where would i find that?
10:59 chris      ahh
11:02 chris      apt-cache policy koha
11:06 magnus     wow, i sure learn something new every day with koha! thanks!
11:06 magnus     that would be something like 3.2~git20100526180903.b4291124
11:06 chris      yep that works
11:06 magnus     great, thanks
11:07 magnus     chris++
11:07 reed       chris, yes, was git-email package, tq
11:20 gmcharlt   larsw++
11:21 magnus     larsw++ # hear, hear!
11:29 jdavidb    mornin', #koha.
11:30 cait       morning jdavidb
11:30 magnus     g'day jdavidb
11:31 jdavidb    :)
11:44 reed       chris, had a look at the br tag escaping for amazon reviews -- is getting tangled w/ the template html escaping; would be simpler to sort at same time as a swtich to template toolkit
11:56 cait       "A few sample libraries, and library categories, including examples of the hardcoded types, CU, IS, PE." - hardcoded types for libraries?
12:12 jwagner    gmcharlt, online?
12:12 gmcharlt   hi jwagner
12:12 jwagner    Morning.  I'm trying to test the fix for Bug 4386 but I'm now not getting any hold notice at all, print or email.  Can someone else test this one too?
12:13 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4386 blocker, P2, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, New print notice feature not obeying email address for hold notices
12:13 gmcharlt   jwagner: anything in the message queue table?  and does the borrower have any messaging preferences set?
12:14 jwagner    No, I triggered two holds this morning and nothing showed up in the message queue at all.
12:15 jwagner    Hang on, just spotted something else to check.
12:17 jwagner    Never Mind :-)  Somehow enhanced messaging preferences got turned off on this system -- dunno how offhand, I'm the only one who uses it.
12:18 jwagner    Now that that's fixed, it did properly generate an email hold.  Let me test another user record without an email address.
12:20 jwagner    Yep, that works.  Must be too early in the morning for coherent testing....
12:21 jwagner    I am getting an error when trying to edit messaging settings via the Edit link from patron details -- Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at /home/k32/kohaclone/C4/SQLHelper.pm line 185.
12:22 owen       I think there is a bug report for that
12:22 jwagner    Works OK if I edit message settings by editing the full patron record.  Is that a new one?
12:22 owen       We were talking about it the other day at least, so it has been confirmed
12:23 jwagner    I'm finding Bug 4508 about can't edit patron attributes that way
12:23 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4508 major, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, can't edit patron attributes using little edit link
12:24 jwagner    Almost identical error message.  I'll add this into that bug report unless you'd rather I opened a separate one.
12:24 gmcharlt   use the same bug
12:24 gmcharlt   all of a piece, I wager
12:25 jwagner    Done.
12:28 jwagner    owen, we were talking the other day about adding more tags into places in the opac to be able to use jquery to hide things.  I've had some requests to hide the search strategy entry -- the mc-itype part of this kind of string: � mc-itype:BK or mc-itype:MU� returned 4336 results.
12:28 jwagner    I looked at that & adding a div tag split up the line.  What's the preferred tag to use if you just want to put an ID on a section?  I found that an <a id='strategy'> works, but I don't know if that's kosher.
12:29 gmcharlt   try a span
12:29 owen       Yup
12:29 jwagner    <span id='strategy'> ?
12:30 jwagner    Is that something that would be generally useful?  I modified the line so that it reads Search � mc-itype:BK or mc-itype:MU� returned 4336 results.  That way when you hide the strategy, it reads Search returned 4336 results.
12:30 munin      New commit(s) kohagit: Set upload target to squeeze-dev. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fe418ea607bc1be233b5db1c82d97577da1ce399> / Update README.Debian for koha-common with post-install setup. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6fb9a6036d59a038fa9356011bcf2b8d78b83507> / Update README.Debian for koha.deb package. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=14ad50
12:31 owen       Sounds useful to me
12:31 jwagner    OK, there's a few odds & ends of places where I'd like to add some tags.  I may send a patch in later with those.
12:33 gmcharlt   jwagner: generally speaking, pretty much any part of a Koha page that is semantically distinct from another part can benefit from having a div/span ID or CSS class assigned to it
12:33 jwagner    There's still a few places in the OPAC that don't have them, but a lot of places in staff mode.  And I'm getting some really weird requests to hide things lately :-)
13:24 jwagner    Drat.  What's the address to send patches to?
13:28 magnus     koha-patches@lists.koha-community.org
13:29 magnus     http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git#Share_with_the_rest_of_the_world
13:29 jwagner    Thanks.
13:29 magnus     np ;-)
14:04 hilongo    Hello #Koha  :)
14:08 wizzyrea   jwagner: I whole heartedly approve of adding tags to things
14:10 hilongo    can anyone tell me which is the las version of Koha 3.0.6 ... I did a git fetch some days ago and I have 3.00.06.008 in the 'About Koha' page... Is it right?
14:16 gmcharlt   hilongo: the tagged 3.0.6 should be 3.00.06.010
14:20 jwagner    wizzyrea, so do I :-)  There are still a lot of areas in staff site that need tags....
14:27 wizzyrea   yea, I just added one that has been hacking on me for a while
14:27 wizzyrea   around the text "no holds allowed"
14:27 wizzyrea   in the search results
14:27 wizzyrea   in the opac it says "no items available" which is more correct
14:30 * wizzyrea squees a little
14:30 wizzyrea   (it's the tiny victories.)
14:31 * jwagner  thinks sometimes those are the only victories possible....
14:44 wizzyrea   here's a tiny one: http://screencast.com/t/NTJkNTQyZWI
14:44 wizzyrea   mostly just for my reference
14:47 jwagner    wizzyrea, does an item record exist for that title?  Being able to place holds on titles w/out items (on order) has been one of my wishful-thinking projects.
14:47 wizzyrea   yep
14:48 wizzyrea   you can still place a hold if you click through
14:49 jwagner    Ah.  Goes back to the problem of how you define "available", right?
14:49 wizzyrea   kind of.
14:50 wizzyrea   I still think I'm right, by the way. :P
14:50 wizzyrea   but I don't feel like fighting about it
14:50 jwagner    Did I miss something?
14:50 wizzyrea   oh, mailing list shenanigans ;)
14:51 wizzyrea   nothing important
14:51 wizzyrea   :)
14:51 jwagner    Oh.  Been just skimming messages lately -- tied up on stuff....
14:51 sekjal     wizzyrea: I can see both sides of the thread, but i think I fall on yours
14:52 wizzyrea   I am open to discussion about it though, there may be a better way. But I still think I want one field that computes definitively "yes, available" or "no, unavailable"
14:52 wizzyrea   it may have to be, as joe suggests, a new metric "available for ILL"
14:53 sekjal     item permissions is what this is sounding like
14:53 wizzyrea   If I read what he was saying correctly, yea, it kind of does
14:53 wizzyrea   i'm not sure how other ILS's handle that
14:54 munin      New commit(s) kohagit: (MT #2565) fix aqplan csv export, and turn off debug <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d43cf0883709b0844d9936f072f497c6217c77b4> / bug 4508: fix crash when editing patron attributes or message prefs <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=340f8f072596cbb1595a4888657fe8582f25b230>
14:54 wizzyrea   I still think the onus for computing availability should be on the library ILS, instead of on the ILL system. The ILL system doesn't know what your rules are, it's like throwing a rabbit a carrot, you don't expect the rabbit to grow the carrot.
14:55 sekjal     well, we could handle it like we do with staff permissions, compute a code number based on what the item can/cannot do
14:55 wizzyrea   the real rub in our system is that it does all of this through z39.50
14:56 wizzyrea   instead of SIP
14:56 wizzyrea   it only checks member status through SIP
14:56 wizzyrea   (our system = the statewide autographics)
14:57 wizzyrea   the idea of item permissions sounds complicated, but it seems like that might be the only way to go
14:58 gmcharlt   wizzyrea: sekjal: c.f. a *long* debate about this during the DLF ILS-DI committee work
14:58 * jwagner  thinks gmcharlt is being a busy bee today -- 3rd time I've had to do a git pull on my current head server this morning!
15:00 gmcharlt   which has been revived, recently - http://groups.google.com/group/ils-di
15:04 wizzyrea   oh wow
15:05 wizzyrea   well I suppose we should get involved with it, or ask someone at the state level to.
15:05 wizzyrea   though
15:05 wizzyrea   I think the goal in kansas is to ditch AG all together
15:05 wizzyrea   and go with an open solution
15:05 wizzyrea   >.>
15:05 wizzyrea   <.<
15:11 owen       AG ?
15:12 wizzyrea   autographics agent
15:12 wizzyrea   pick your AG
16:07 * jdavidb_ pokes his clone.
16:16 jwagner    jdavidb has the cloning module working????
16:19 owen       Naw, his clone disintegrated after just one poke!
16:20 jwagner    Back to the debugging board....
16:44 gmcharlt   owen: re Cindy's patch, is 'dialog alert' the correct class?
16:44 owen       yes
16:47 gmcharlt   thanks
16:58 munin      New commit(s) kohagit: Added "dialog alert" class to "No Results Found" message on the patron <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ad2babecf388e89a394ccde56d3073276209061e>
17:02 owen       I never feel entirely sure something has been committed until I get a tweet, an email, a new item in my feed reader *and* a message from munin.
17:03 gmcharlt   multi-model communication FTW!
17:08 * owen     friends munin on Facebook
17:09 jwagner    munin has a Facebook account?
17:09 munin      jwagner: Error: "has" is not a valid command.
17:09 jwagner    Oh, hush.
17:19 wizzyrea   gmcharlt should come teach coms at KU
17:19 wizzyrea   >.>
17:20 gmcharlt   heh
17:20 wizzyrea   Chat, Forums, and MUD's!
17:46 eiro       hello koha people
17:47 eiro       does $query->param( foo => 12 ); interact with the output header in any way ?
18:10 jwagner    I know I've seen this before, but I can't find a bug report.  Should be fairly old by now.  Creating a staff user, then trying to set superlibrarian permissions.  When I try to save the permissions, I get an error about patron does not exist.  (The patron does exist & can be searched, I just can't set permissions.)  Ring any bells with anyone?
18:11 owen       I haven't seen that before jwagner, does it happen every time?
18:12 jwagner    Not every time/every server, but I know I've seen it before in mainstream Koha.
18:18 * owen     can't duplicate it with a new staff user
18:21 * owen     sees a weird glitch in Chrome: http://screencast.com/t/NTQ1ZTU0M
18:27 owen       Hmm... resaved the include file and now diff tells me there was a U+FEFF there "ZERO WIDTH NO-BREAK SPACE"
18:30 jwagner    owen, we thing the permissions thing may be a database problem.  Never Mind for now....
18:35 jcamins    jdavidb: Car Talk, with Click and Clack the Tapper Brothers (just noticed that in the log)
18:35 jdavidb    jcamins++
18:36 jdavidb    :)
18:36 * owen     Googled it, so it didn't count. Had to Google it because it was driving me crazy. Heh...driving.
18:36 wizzyrea   it's only a short walk
18:37 owen       :P
18:37 jdavidb    The credits at the end of the show are always hilarious.
18:37 hdl_laptop hi all
18:37 wizzyrea   hi hdl
18:52 munin      New commit(s) kohagit: Whitespace removal, removal of U+FEFF character <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bef08997420b0d418d39fcef09e68789621bb76c>
18:53 * gmcharlt sends telegram to owen, just so that he's absolutely sure
18:54 * owen     wondered why there was a guy in a gorilla suit knocking on his door
18:59 eiro       i come back with my question about $cgi->param: can someone help ?
19:00 CGI448     hi, we recently installed koha and are starting to enter records into the catalogue, however, whenever we search the catalogue for the items, no results are returned. Could someone help us with this problem?
19:01 eiro       CGI448, is zebra running ?
19:01 wizzyrea   CGI448:
19:01 wizzyrea   http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/
19:01 CGI448     yes, we have zebra running
19:01 eiro       CGI448, wizzyrea did well :)
19:02 gmcharlt   eiro: I wouldn't expect that foo->param(bar=>baz) would do anything other than set a parameter value
19:03 CGI448     thanks, we'll check out the searching documentation and see how that goes
19:04 eiro       gmcharlt, so can you explain why use the $query object insteed of a %param hash ?
19:04 wizzyrea   good luck. Also, koha-community.org is the active website of the project.
19:04 wizzyrea   since I see you came in from koha.org ;)
19:04 gmcharlt   eiro: you need to give a little more context for that question to make sense :)
19:05 wizzyrea   http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/#18 likely this faq is the one that will point you the most in the right direction
19:07 eiro       gmcharlt, i mean: it seems that $query->param(qw/ foo bar /) is just a way to make foo globally available in the script. I don't see another usage but i just have to carre about the CGI mechanism.
19:08 eiro       gmcharlt, i think you did anwser: i don't carre if it doesn't interact with the cgi answer
19:08 eiro       thanks
19:09 gmcharlt   eiro: I see - and I thnk that is not a good way of passing data around in a script
19:10 gmcharlt   either explicitly use package-level variables, store in the context if appropriate, or pass parameters around between routines
19:11 gmcharlt   but overloading the CGI query object is an obfuscation
19:11 gmcharlt   that would break the instant somebody wanted to add a new query parameter
19:31 jwagner    owen, online?
19:32 owen       For 45 remaining minutes.
19:33 jwagner    In opac.css, results_summary is set to font-size 85%.  That's having an unfortunate result in records with extremely long 5xx fields.  Each successive paragraph gets smaller & smaller until they're unreadable.  Any reason not to take out that 85% & put at 100%?  Local change to 100% fixes problem.
19:34 eiro       gmcharlt, sure! i don't want to use it by myself: i try to know why this technique is heavily used in some parts of koha
19:34 owen       jwagner: Do you have an example online I could see?
19:34 gmcharlt   eiro: namely?
19:35 eiro       gmcharlt, C4::Auth +196 for exemple
19:35 gmcharlt   eiro: $template->param( CAN_user_updatecharges     => 1 ); ?
19:36 eiro       oops ... +196 means 'at line 196'
19:36 eiro       gmcharlt, arf sorry
19:36 jwagner    owen, just sent you a screenshot.  See also http://hartford.waldo.kohalibrary.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=302822
19:36 eiro       i seen it elsewhere. I try to find where
19:36 jwagner    That's a Waldo site, but I have the same problem in current head -- changing the stylesheet setting fixes the problem.
19:37 owen       Cool... it's like the opening crawl to Star Wars in reverse
19:37 jwagner    If you have excellent vision....
19:37 jwagner    I don't know what else results_summary does.
19:37 owen       A more important question is why all these "results_summary" spans are nested instead of successive
19:38 jwagner    This is coming from the XSLT file, if that makes a difference.
19:38 gmcharlt   yeah, it's the nesting that's the problem
19:38 owen       Sounds like it might be a bug in some of the logic in the XSLT
19:39 jwagner    So the font change is a workaround, but not the source of the problem?
19:39 gmcharlt   right
19:39 eiro       gmcharlt, sorry: i don't find it again. perhaps iwas just wrong
19:39 jwagner    Starting roughly line 476 of MARC21slim2OPACDetail.xsl in current head
19:40 gmcharlt   eiro: ok.  not saying that it hasn't happened at all, but it's not a common pattern in Koha by any stretch
19:41 owen       jwagner: With CSS, the "85%" refers to whatever the is above that element in the "cascacde," so if you have one results_summary inside another, it's 15% smaller each time
19:41 owen       Sorry...whatever the *font-size* is for the element above it in the cascade
19:42 jwagner    That's what I figured was happening.  And it gets SMALLER and smaller and downright tinier :-)
19:42 eiro       gmcharlt, so i have another error in my script :'(
19:42 eiro       btw: time to sleep for froggies! cya all and thanks for help
19:43 owen       jwagner: An alternate workaround, if 100% is too small, would be to specify a fixed font-size in your client's stylesheet: 12px or 10px or whatever.
19:43 owen       But a bug should be filed for that problem.
19:44 gmcharlt   jwagner: nobody every gets past the first couple 5xx anyway ;)
19:44 jwagner    Not legibly....
19:44 jwagner    I can file a bug, not sure I can fix the problem.
19:45 wizzyrea   patches@koha-community.org right?
19:45 gmcharlt   go ahead and file - I can't think of a good reason for the results-summarys to nest like that, regardless of what you do with the stylesheet
19:45 gmcharlt   wizzyrea: koha-patches@lists.koha-community.org
19:45 wizzyrea   ty ty
19:47 jcamins    What's really strange about that bug is that if you look at the HTML source, the <span/>s don't look particularly nested.
19:47 jcamins    At least, that's what I find really strange about it.
19:47 owen       jcamins: The do in Firebug
19:48 jcamins    I guess this is a sign that I need to use Firebug and not "View Source."
19:49 gmcharlt   jcamins: unless you can read Lisp w/o having to count parentheses, firebug is usually better for determining the structure of DOM trees ;)
19:50 nengard    hello everyone - say hi to new Koha librarians :)
19:50 nengard    they're watching you on the big screen
19:50 brendan    heya nengard
19:50 wizzyrea   hi koha librarians!
19:50 * gmcharlt waves to the invisible crowd
19:51 wizzyrea   welcome to the party :)
19:51 Nate       Hiya Acton!
19:51 brendan    hiya Acton
19:51 sekjal     hello, Acton!
19:52 jwagner    Bug 4821
19:52 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4821 major, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, With multiple 5XX fields, the font display gets progressively smaller
19:52 jwagner    owen, gmcharlt, there's the bug entry.  (And a demo of munin for the invisible crowd!)
19:52 nengard    k - logging off - back to work :)
19:53 owen       Aw man, we didn't even get to show off how we check the weather all day long
19:53 jwagner    or random quotes!
19:53 owen       @wunder 45701
19:53 munin      owen: The current temperature in Ohio University, Athens, Ohio is 28.9�C (3:45 PM EDT on May 26, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.79 in 1008.7 hPa (Steady).
19:59 wizzyrea   bug 2941
19:59 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2941 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Transfers cannot be canceled once initiated.
19:59 wizzyrea   is this still broken?
20:00 * owen     hasn't heard of any fix :(
20:00 owen       Transfers are almost as much of a mess as holds
20:01 * owen     gets closer to a js-based fix for Bug 4354
20:01 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4354 minor, P5, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, Cannot edit existing issuing rules
20:03 brendan    @wunder 93117
20:03 munin      brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 18.9�C (12:58 PM PDT on May 26, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015.1 hPa (Rising).
20:15 * owen     heads out, seeing as how jwagner will not see he's leaving 3 minutes early
20:29 richard    hi
20:45 chris      morning
20:45 gmcharlt   hi chris
20:48 chris      heya gmcharlt
20:48 chris      i love waking up to a bunch of commit messages, and no new dramas  :-)
20:49 chris      wow, whatever mail client rohit uses ... it needs some \n ;)
20:52 brendan    heya chris
20:54 chris      http://library.org.nz/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=1391
20:54 chris      check out the recommendations .. they are starting to get really good
20:55 chris      and it seems everyone reads the simpsons comics ;)
21:10 moodaepo   @wunder 56001
21:10 munin      moodaepo: The current temperature in South on Monks, Mankato, Minnesota is 26.3�C (4:09 PM CDT on May 26, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 28%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.13 in 1020.2 hPa (Rising).
21:12 chris      hi jdavidb and moodaepo
21:13 jdavidb    heya, chris.
21:13 moodaepo   howdy chris
21:27 wizzyrea   re: 2941 I think it might be fixed
21:27 wizzyrea   I just tested it
21:27 wizzyrea   and... it seems to work?!
21:28 gmcharlt   bug 2941
21:28 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2941 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Transfers cannot be canceled once initiated.
21:28 wizzyrea   that is to say, the current locations seem to be correct
21:29 wizzyrea   the process seems to proceed in a way I would expect
21:30 wizzyrea   bug 3270 also seems to be working
21:30 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3270 major, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Cancelling a hold request after transfer initiated orphans item
21:32 wizzyrea   I'm going to check it again
21:32 hdl_laptop gmcharlt: will work on the two blockers for the weekend
21:32 gmcharlt   hdl_laptop++
21:39 wizzyrea   3270 definitely seems like it's at least partially fixed
21:40 wizzyrea   at least you don't have to manually set the current location, it updates correctly now
21:40 wizzyrea   (sharon's comment)
21:45 brendan    any comments on Bug 4468
21:45 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4468 critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, checkin with checkbox doesn't activate holds
21:46 brendan    should that be updated to blocker?
21:46 * brendan  sees it as a blocker
21:46 gmcharlt   brendan: no
21:46 gmcharlt   that never worked
21:46 brendan    ok - it's the same thing for the CheckIn tab on the searchbar
21:46 gmcharlt   say what?
21:47 * brendan  tries
21:47 brendan    next to the koha logo on the staff-side
21:47 brendan    that search bar -- if you highlight the Check In tab
21:47 brendan    and return there it doesn't activate holds - IRC
21:48 gmcharlt   works for me
21:48 * brendan  double checks
21:49 brendan    what do you know it worked :)
21:50 brendan    updates my bugfile in my head
21:54 eiro       allez /na
21:54 eiro       oops, sorry
21:54 hdl_laptop good night eiro
21:54 eiro       hdl_laptop, can't sleep :)
21:55 eiro       i woke up
21:55 wizzyrea   haha, eiro, was that your cheek typing hello?
21:55 eiro       wizzyrea, no. it was a keystroke shuffle
21:56 wizzyrea   hehe
21:56 hdl_laptop brendan: we did some things on circulation. You could test git.biblibre.com:koha_biblibre.git and its master branch
21:56 hdl_laptop and those holds messages are showing up now.
21:57 brendan    cool thanks hdl_laptop - I'll take a look
22:02 hdl_laptop brendan: this branch is still under development. But it is a quite  fresh rebase of Univ_Lyon3 branch
22:03 eiro       can i see the result of format-patch (to know what will be sent bit send-email )
22:04 hdl_laptop vi *.patch
22:05 hdl_laptop brendan: and yet, I think it is getting quite stable... (For a new install)
22:05 eiro       *patch(N) is empty :(
22:07 eiro       my git format-patch must be wrong. i'll read the doc
22:11 chris      yeah eiro it writes it to the dir you are in
22:12 eiro       i forgot to specify origin
22:13 chris      that'd do it :)
22:15 eiro       yup :)
22:30 eiro       trying to configure the git send-to now
23:30 hdl_laptop good night folks
23:31 gmcharlt   g'night
23:31 eiro       +1
23:31 eiro       :)
23:33 chris      night france :)
23:59 chris      http://eprints.rclis.org/18512/
23:59 chris      will have to ask one of the spanish koha users to translate that ;)
23:59 chris      spanish speaking ones anyway