Time Nick Message 01:34 chris_n @wunder 28334 01:34 munin chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 20.6�C (9:37 PM EDT on May 16, 2010). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005.0 hPa (Rising). 01:46 chris_n` lightening does wonderful things to one's dsl circuit 01:47 chris heh i bet 03:11 genji how do i get the contents of every commit, that I can grep for the changes that might identify what i do or don't have? 03:12 genji in other words.. what commit added "x" text to a file? 03:13 chilts genji: if you know the file and line number, just do 'git blame filename' and it'll give you a hash next to that line :) 03:14 genji ah sweet... hmm... but the file isn't in the repo.. 03:15 genji i mean... it is... as afile name.. but the heavily changed version is not. 03:16 chilts if you want _all_ the commits and diffs from your history, try: git diff -p 03:16 chilts -p = patch 03:52 Amit_G heya chris, brendan 03:56 chris_n heya Amit_G 03:57 chris_n ok, off to sleep 03:57 chris sleep well 04:07 genji woo! 04:08 genji i just used chilts info on -p ... so i made a huge git log -p file... 04:08 chris got the info you needed? 04:08 genji i grepped it to find a few changed lines.. 04:08 genji now my modified biblio.pm has only 65 lines modified. 04:09 chris cool 04:09 genji and its possible, all 65 lines could be from the previous developer at mandumah.. 04:10 genji but this is only one file.. there could be others that had commits after this particular commit.. 04:11 chilts sweet ... well I guess you're on the right track now :) 04:11 chilts I can imagine that git -p log is pretty large :) 04:12 genji yeah. pretty cool, getting this far. 04:12 genji is there a way to say, cut all lines out that come after a commithash? 04:13 genji hmm... or. a way to say to grep.. all lines before this line, spit into stdout... the rest, don't show. 04:17 genji or i could just head it. 04:23 genji woo! 04:23 genji only two unexplained changes left! 05:16 genji any method to show the very 05:16 genji ne0 05:16 genji next commit? 05:30 genji oh! 05:30 genji made a major mistake.... theres multiple branches ... 05:31 genji i need to take the last commit of the 3.0.x branch, and find my code there... 05:31 genji not from the head branch... opos 05:32 genji oops. 06:09 Ropuch^_ Motning #koha 06:19 robin chris: we should probably put together data export guidelines. I think it'll save us time and profanity. E.g. I just realised why so many ISBNs are still invalid: as the column was set to "default", numbers without an X became numerical, and so lost leading zeros. 06:58 kf good morning #koha 06:59 braedon|home morning kf 06:59 kf hi braedon 07:37 chris robin: thats a good point 07:38 robin chris: I also resolved this by making my migration script apply leading zeros if necessary. 07:39 robin but in general, getting people to use text datatypes for everything would be a godsend. 07:39 chris yeah 07:40 chris good luck with that though :) we are actually lucky that we have someone who understands where the data comes from 07:40 robin heh 07:40 chris a lot of ones coming from other ILS just get a big pile of mess 07:41 robin ah, sounds fun. 07:41 chris yeah, obfustication ftw :) 07:45 Irinie Good morning 07:46 chris hi Irinie 07:51 Irinie I install finally koha 3.00.01.005 07:52 Irinie on linux using vmware 07:52 Irinie this is about my koha : Koha version: 3.00.01.005 OS version Linux Koha3 2.6.26-2-686 #1 SMP Thu May 28 15:39:35 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux Perl interpreter: /usr/bin/perl Perl version: 5.010000 Perl @INC: /home/koha/kohaclone /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.0 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.0 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl MySQL version: mysql Ver 14.12 Di 07:52 kf morning chris, robin and Irinie 07:53 chris Irinie: why did you choose version 3.0.1 ? 07:54 Irinie What is better? 07:55 chris 3.0.6 will be out very soon, 3.0.5 is the latest stable, if you wait a til tomorrow 3.0.6 should be out 07:55 chris it has a lot of bugfixes since 3.0.1 (hundreds in fact) 07:55 chris hdl is working on the 3.0.6 release now 07:56 Irinie who could i upgrade this version 3.0.1 or I have to re-unstall 07:56 Irinie Sorry.. 07:56 chris you can upgrade 07:56 Irinie ok 07:56 Irinie how 07:57 Irinie ? 07:57 chris if you wait for the 3.0.6 then download it, in the INSTALL.debian-lenny file it tells you how to upgrade (that file comes in the tarball) 08:01 Irinie Ok, I will try 08:01 Irinie Many thanks 11:34 Genji hiya... 11:34 nengard hey all, if you see any edits that need to be made to this report on the Koha side: http://os-ol.org/node/112/ let me know 11:35 Genji is koha 3.0.x still being maintained as an active branch? why should i upgrade to 3.2? 11:38 mason fabtastic site nicole!! 11:38 nengard Genji you shouldn't upgrade to 3.2 in a production environment yet - it's still only in alpha and 3.0.x is still being maintained 11:39 nengard thanks mason - wasn't all me - I did have some help from my colleagues :) 11:43 mason nice domain-name too, looks cute ;) 11:43 mason the 'o's are cuddly... 11:45 Genji how many bugfixes have there been from 3.0 final to 3.0.6 .. at an estimate? 11:46 Genji greetings jwagner. 11:46 kyle nengard: I looked at the comparison matrix and thought you should know the offline circ client's I have written are fully cross-platform. They can be compiled and run on any platform that supports PHP/Gtk+ or Qt4, respectively 11:47 nengard great, I'll get that in there - also I told them to add Libki 11:47 nengard as PC Management under Koha 11:47 chris_n` g'morning 11:48 kyle Excellent, I'm planning on adding SIP2 support for the rewrite that is in the works. 11:48 * chris_n` runs 3.2 in production 11:48 chris_n` but then I like to live on the cutting edge :) 11:48 Genji additionally, how difficult is it, upgrading customized templates from 3.0 to 3.0.6? 11:48 * jdavidb harrrrumphs. 11:48 paul_p hello world ! 11:48 * chris_n` harrumphs back 11:48 chris_n` howd paul_p 11:49 jwagner Morning all. And harrumph, just to join in.... 11:49 * chris_n` hands out coffee (and tea for jwagner) 11:58 jwagner Thanks chris_n -- I could use it. I took a much-needed day off on Friday, and it's really hard to get back into the "work" frame of mind today.... 12:03 nengard I want this week to last forever - cause after it I'm back on the road - practically through July!! :( 12:10 gmcharlt good morning 12:10 kf I have 2 weeks vacation after this week - so I hope it wont last forever (sorry nengard!) 12:10 nengard hehe 12:10 nengard it's okay 12:15 kf :) 12:19 owen Happy new week #koha 12:22 kf hi owen 12:22 kf nengard: os-ol.org++ :) 12:23 paul_p 'morning owen 12:24 nengard kf that site isn't actually mine - I just helped with the comparison part - but I agree it's an awesome site 12:32 owen nengard++ # for Bug 2103 (which I don't remember seeing before) 12:32 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2103 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Make Snapshot MARC View not a popup 12:33 owen I'm really not sure why that MARC view opens in a js-driven modal window 12:33 nengard me either!! :) 12:33 owen Either a customer request or a Liblimer who thought, "hey that'd be cool" ? 12:34 * gmcharlt actually likes that; one less instance where the holdings details logic would be duplicated yet again 12:35 owen I would actually go further and remove it as a separate link, and roll it into opac-MARCdetail.pl as an alternate view 12:35 * owen is just thinking off the top of his head 12:36 owen ...which is a pretty weird phrase when you think about it 12:38 gmcharlt owen: indeed; I generally consider it more aesthetically pleasing if you keep your skull on 12:39 * owen was picturing his brain in layers, with the most impulsive brain cells on the top 12:39 jdavidb I dunno, a picture of owen on the cover of _fangoria_ without the top of his noggin might go over well at the newsstand. 12:39 owen Heh, is that still around? 12:39 hdl Hi gmcharlt 12:39 gmcharlt hi hdl 12:41 jwagner owen, if you can keep your skull glued on :-), I have a question for you. I keep running into areas in the staff side where I'd love to do jquery statements to hide things but the things aren't set off with div codes. I did one patch to update the staff advanced search page. 12:42 jwagner Before I go crazy doing other pages, do you know if the changes chris is talking about in templates for 3.4 will make a difference? 12:42 paul_p @rijksmuseum++ 12:42 munin paul_p: Error: "rijksmuseum++" is not a valid command. 12:42 paul_p committer of the day ! 12:42 paul_p rijksmuseum++ 12:42 owen I don't think the change in the templating system will affect the requirement that markup be properly, er, marked up. 12:42 * paul_p visited this museum in september. It's a nice museum ! 12:43 jwagner Is it specifically div codes that are required for jquery to work? 12:43 owen Unique elements can be given unique ID's for jquery to refer to. Non-unique elements should be given class names common to all of them. 12:43 gmcharlt hdl++ # 3.0.6 12:43 owen Generally speaking. 12:44 jwagner OK, need to cogitate a bit more on that subject. We talked a while back about jquery and XSLT. What's needed in the XSLT stylesheets? Just div or whatever codes too? 12:44 hdl gmcharlt: thanks 12:44 * owen wishes Bugzilla had a button for "Expand search to include all statuses" 12:45 owen jwagner: Yes 12:45 jwagner OK, I'll add that to the cogitation list. Thanks. 12:46 hdl owen jwagner you can even use tag type such as :input 12:46 hdl and all sort of things. 12:46 hdl It really is amazing how flexible it can be. 12:46 nengard hdl make sure you post your release news to the koha blog :) 12:47 hdl nengard: I will. 12:47 owen I wonder if anyone can duplicate (or even understand) Bug 2994? 12:47 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2994 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, sort by publication date seems to be limited 12:48 nengard owen that is way way strange 12:48 nengard i'll test it now 12:50 owen Nice... Bug 3109 filed over a year ago, still broken. Sounds like a "wontfix" to me though as it applies to koha.org 12:50 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3109 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Consistency Check, broken img tags 12:51 nengard owen it works for me - bug 2994 12:52 gmcharlt owen: cantfix, at any rate 12:52 nengard owen have marked bug 3109 as such 12:53 nengard my guess about 2994 is that it was actually a cataloging error not a sort error 12:53 nengard something was probably cataloged in the wrong place .... 12:54 * owen does the same with Bug 3528 12:54 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3528 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, RESOLVED WONTFIX, Hide right-hand sidebar on Koha.org manual pages 12:54 nengard agreed 12:56 owen Bug 3580 and Bug 2614 seem to be basically the same issue, but one specifies a specific way to resolve it. 12:56 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3580 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Control order in which facet categories display 12:56 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2614 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Facets in Alpha Order 12:58 nengard so mark one a dup of the other - i'd keep the one that has the solution :) 12:59 owen Depends on which is your favorite way to solve it ;) 12:59 nengard you said only one specified a resolution 13:00 owen One says "provide options" and the other says "make them alphabetical, period" 13:00 nengard ahhhh 13:09 * owen doesn't think the OPACViewOthersSuggestions preference is working 13:09 owen Can anyone confirm? 13:13 chris_n hdl++ # 3.0.6 13:16 nengard nit picky style question - why are some of the perl modules on cgi-bin/koha/about.pl in bold and others not? 13:16 nengard owen there is a bug for that 13:16 owen Oh, okay. 13:17 nengard bug 4137 13:17 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4137 normal, P5, ---, henridamien@koha-fr.org, NEW, OPACViewOthersSuggestions preference doesn't work 13:17 nengard oh you reported it :)hehe 13:17 nengard i'll go confirm for you 13:18 owen ha! 13:18 owen That's the top of my head getting the best of me again 13:19 owen Maybe I *have* perfected a cloning process, and that's why I don't remember filing bugs like that? 13:19 owen I successfully cloned myself, but neither clone realizes it was a success. 13:19 nengard :) 13:19 nengard i have confirmed for you 13:20 chris_n nengard: the perl module section of about.pl is about to get a fairly major face change 13:21 nengard chris_n okey dokey 13:21 chris_n see my most recent post the dev list 13:21 chris_n some will still be bold 13:21 chris_n those are required packages 13:22 * owen sees them all in bold at the moment 13:22 chris_n ie. if you don't have these Koha will be non-functional 13:22 chris_n there will also a be some color if you are missing deps or need to upgrade deps 13:22 chris_n no green, though owen :) 13:23 owen :) 13:23 nengard chris_n - i already have colors ... 13:23 nengard was that pushed already? 13:23 chris_n heh, you 13:23 chris_n yup, even 13:23 * chris_n really should look before leaping 13:24 kf gmcharlt: around? 13:24 gmcharlt kf: yes 13:24 owen chris_n: That was pushed? I'm not seeing any colors 13:24 * chris_n resisted the urge to make the missing modules with a "click to install" link 13:24 kf hi :) I want to add new fields to the marc standard frameworks (according to marc21 standard) 13:24 chris_n owen: 24 mins ago 13:25 kf I think I need to add them to the translated sql files too? is it ok to do it all in english? 13:25 owen Ah, there it is 13:25 owen Man, it's hard to keep up at this pace! :) 13:25 nengard owen - I LOVE IT!! :) hehe 13:25 * owen sees 8 bright red rows 13:25 nengard chris_n so what you're saying is that bold items are required 13:26 nengard I'll document that 13:26 chris_n correct 13:26 chris_n red == not installed 13:26 gmcharlt kf: yes, it's OK to do them in English, although after asking around to see if somebody can give you a translation quickly 13:26 chris_n yellow == upgrade 13:26 nengard also - where was that screenshot you showed me - it had yellow and red items on it 13:26 nengard can you send that to me so i can put it in the manual 13:26 chris_n nengard: hmm.... 13:26 nengard so people see all posibilities - i stupidly installed what i was missing before taking an image 13:26 chris_n that has changed 13:27 nengard anyone have a screen with a missing module and upgradable modules? 13:27 chris_n and I don't have a system that is missing any deps atm 13:27 chris_n mayby owen? 13:27 * wizzyrea_laptop probably does 13:27 gmcharlt nengard: I have a couple 13:27 chris_n sounds like he has a few missing 13:27 gmcharlt I'll send you a grab 13:27 nengard thanks gmcharlt!! 13:27 kf gmcharlt: russian might be hard, its for bug 4506 13:27 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4506 enhancement, P5, ---, katrin.fischer@bsz-bw.de, NEW, Add support of record linking by record control number in $w 13:27 owen I do, but gmcharlt is faster! 13:27 nengard hehe 13:27 chris_n nengard: be sure to checkout the koha_perl_deps.pl script as well 13:27 gmcharlt kf: no worries, if you can't get a translation, that's OK 13:28 nengard checkout as in view it? or as in check it out from git? 13:28 chris_n lol 13:28 chris_n as in view it 13:28 kf ok, and I have another question to you as marc21 expert :) 13:28 nengard okey dokey :) hehe 13:28 chris_n nengard: you can do './koha_perl_deps.pl -h' for instant documentation 13:28 nengard will do - once my system is done upgrading modules 13:29 chris_n or 'perldoc koha_perl_deps.pl' for more detail 13:29 kf I m reasearching analytics - I saw that our union catalog has data in 936 and I wondered if this is based on some standard or just our invention 13:30 * chris_n thinks gmcharlt is pretty fast for a Monday morning and wonders what he ate for breakfast 13:30 kf is there something most people use for analytics? beside $g 13:30 nengard chris_n - that reminds me - got to go get some breakfast ... will be back shortly 13:31 gmcharlt nengard: sent 13:31 wizzyrea_laptop $&*(@# jing need an update 13:31 gmcharlt kf: 936 is your invention :) 13:32 wizzyrea_laptop http://screencast.com/t/ZDQ3ZDUwMGE 13:32 wizzyrea_laptop there we go 13:32 nengard gmcharlt that's just upgrades - i have that - i need one with missing modules as well -- anyone have that? owen? 13:32 nengard or wizzyrea!! 13:32 owen Yes 13:32 nengard thanks :) 13:32 nengard owen send your along too :) 13:33 nengard okay - really going to get food 13:33 * wizzyrea_laptop wonders how anything is working :P 13:33 owen wizzyrea_laptop: Me too! 13:34 kf gmcharlt: ok. I just wonder if there is something libraries are using, I cant get our invention into main koha (perhaps bribe chris with chocolate?) so thinking how this can be solved in koha 13:34 gmcharlt kf: well, record links in MARC21 tend to be made via 77x fields, e.g., 773 13:35 gmcharlt where $w or $x in the 773 contains a reference to the control number of (e.g.,) the parent record 13:35 kf you are right, there is $g I think 13:35 kf so no problem for us, but $g is not easy to search for 13:35 owen http://www.screencast.com/t/OGY2ZGFk 13:36 kf I was thinking about jcamins bug 4479 13:36 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4479 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Support for linking on MARBI recommendation 2003-DP01 13:40 kf gmcharlt: ok, thx for your help, I just dont want to miss something. :) 13:45 collum owen: Your assessment of bug 3070 is correct. There was no code to redirect a single result search to RSS. That's what was added. 13:45 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3070 normal, P5, ---, gcollum@gmail.com, RESOLVED FIXED, RSS feeds for searches matching a single record return HTML 13:52 owen collum: I see a patch of yours was pushed for subject links 13:53 owen ...but I'm not sure it's working 13:53 owen I've got a subject "Dogs -- Fiction" 13:53 owen The links: /cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=su:Dogs 13:54 owen Not links, link. There's just the one. 13:54 owen Oh sorry, that wasn't HEAD was it? 13:55 collum NP. I was going to ask you what subfield Fiction was in, but nevermind. 13:55 gatchen hi hello all 13:56 gatchen i would like to ask 13:56 gatchen im just new in KOHA... but, as a new user, how do i know that it is work after we installed it 13:56 gatchen can anyone tell me please 13:57 wizzyrea_laptop hi 13:57 wizzyrea_laptop can you go to http://<your server>:8080 and get anything? 13:58 gatchen do u mean me? wizzyrea_laptop 13:58 wizzyrea_laptop I do indeed 13:58 braedon|home chris_n: that help screen print is just larger than a standard terminal. tsk tsk :) 14:00 nengard okay so i was able to upgrade all the modules except for one - i keep getting this message: Warning: Cannot install Graphics::Magick, don't know what it is. any tips? 14:01 braedon|home what os? 14:01 * owen perks up his ears, as his Graphics::Magick is missing as well 14:01 wizzyrea_laptop is'nt graphicsmagick an apt install? 14:01 * wizzyrea_laptop is missing it too, but doesn't use images 14:01 wizzyrea_laptop so it's kind of meh 14:02 braedon|home for ubuntu, you need graphicsmagick and libgraphics-magick-perl 14:02 braedon|home well, did last time i tried, which was back in jan 14:02 wizzyrea_laptop so apt-get install graphicsmagick, libgraphics-magick-perl 14:02 braedon|home yipyip 14:03 wizzyrea_laptop well graphicsmagick doesn't seem to exist... lemme go look it up 14:03 braedon|home are you ubuntu or debian? or something else? 14:03 wizzyrea_laptop debian 14:04 chris_n wizzyrea_laptop: I think if you just apt-get the perl library, it will pick up the other as a dep 14:04 kf mine is missing too :) 14:04 nengard sorry - i'm on debian and i did apt-get upgrades and then i did cpan ones - and neither upgraded it 14:04 owen Worked for me on Ubuntu, but now instead of saying it's missing it's saying it needs to be upgraded :| 14:04 wizzyrea_laptop cool beans yo 14:04 wizzyrea_laptop lol mine too 14:04 chris_n alternately: you can do 'sudo apt-cache search magick | grep graphics' 14:05 nengard owen - same here - says i need to be upgraded 14:05 wizzyrea_laptop i do like this thing you've done though, chris_n 14:05 * chris_n may need to check on the required version 14:05 nengard but i'm on debian 14:05 * wizzyrea_laptop is also on debian 14:05 braedon|home i'l install now on ubuntu10.04, and see 14:05 braedon|home just a sec 14:06 wizzyrea_laptop it says 1.1.11 is too old 14:06 wizzyrea_laptop which is not surprising, since apparently GM is into 1.3 14:06 braedon|home i'm getting 1.3.5, and that is too old 14:07 braedon|home apparently we need 1.3.7 14:08 braedon|home chris_n: great job on the script btw. 14:08 braedon|home now if you can just get it to auto install appropriate packages and CPAN versions.. :P 14:09 wizzyrea_laptop can you get it to make me coffee in the morning too? 14:09 wizzyrea_laptop because that's really what I want 14:09 wizzyrea_laptop :) 14:09 braedon|home and toast 14:09 wizzyrea_laptop I was thining toast too, but you know 14:09 braedon|home pushing it? 14:09 owen Neato: http://www.erichynds.com/jquery/a-jquery-ui-growl-ubuntu-notification-widget/ 14:09 wizzyrea_laptop I mean, chris_n is good, but I mean toast, that's godlike. 14:10 braedon|home next i will be wanting him to make me a sandwitch 14:10 braedon|home without requiring sudo! 14:10 wizzyrea_laptop lol 14:10 * wizzyrea_laptop remembers the XKCD on that topic... 14:10 braedon|home whew 14:11 wizzyrea_laptop http://xkcd.com/149/ 14:11 braedon|home was wondering if i should have left that joke for #xkcd 14:11 wizzyrea_laptop omg there's a channel? 14:11 wizzyrea_laptop for xkcd? 14:11 braedon|home indeed 14:11 * wizzyrea_laptop faints 14:11 braedon|home lots of kiwis in it too 14:11 owen There goes wizzyrea_laptop's productivity 14:11 wizzyrea_laptop lol 14:12 wizzyrea_laptop not sure it can get much worse at the moment 14:12 * wizzyrea_laptop has had the worst trouble with her sitter lately 14:12 wizzyrea_laptop thusly am doing more work than is reasonable from home with a 2 year old hovering 14:13 braedon|home server is irc.foonetic.net btw 14:13 wizzyrea_laptop "wha doin? Elephants? More milk please? I'm runnin!" 14:15 chris_n we can probably back the required version down to 1.6 and be fine 14:15 chris_n 1.3.6 even 14:15 chris_n lets try again: 1.3.5 14:15 braedon|home :) 14:15 braedon|home was wondering how that was supposed to help :P 14:16 chris_n lucid hands out 1.3.5-6 14:16 chris_n so I suspect that is the best we should hold things to for the time being 14:16 braedon|home indeed 14:17 * braedon|home really should get back onto his attempt at a PPA 14:17 braedon|home anyone know if there have been any developments in getting those packages into debian? 14:19 gmcharlt braedon|home: yes, larsw has submitted packages for all of the remaining Perl deps, and is working on overall packaging of Koha 14:20 braedon|home mmk, will have to get around to porting them to ubuntu. changes should be minimal 14:21 chris_n ok, patch submitted to back down the req version of Graphics::Magick 14:22 braedon|home not that doing them from CPAN was hard - mostly automated 14:22 braedon|home kk, awesome 14:22 owen With regard to getting dependencies, I had to follow these instructions to get PDF::API2::Simple installed: 14:22 owen http://old.nabble.com/problem-with-PDF%3A%3AAPI2%3A%3ASimple-installation-td28077493.html 14:22 owen ...not sure if there's anything that can be done for that. 14:23 braedon|home hmm, i used to have a problem with that 14:23 chris_n yup 14:23 braedon|home solved it by using cpanp instead 14:24 braedon|home that and Authen::CAS::Client needed it back in feb 14:24 owen How does that work? 14:24 owen cpanp? 14:24 braedon|home sudo cpanp -i Authen::CAS::Client PDF::API2::Simple 14:24 braedon|home just a slightly different version of cpan basically 14:24 braedon|home cpan plus 14:25 braedon|home seemed to cause it's own problems at times though 14:25 braedon|home so i only used it for those two 14:26 wizzyrea_laptop bleh [ERROR] Unable to create a new distribution object for 'PDF::API2::Simple' -- cannot continue 14:26 nengard_away wizzyrea i had issues with that one too when i first tried to install it ... unfortunatly 14:26 nengard_away i don't remember how i fixed it 14:26 nengard_away be back soon 14:27 braedon|home wizzyrea_laptop: cpan or cpanp? 14:27 wizzyrea_laptop cpanp 14:27 braedon|home hmm 14:27 braedon|home never got that one 14:27 wizzyrea_laptop same problems as vimal with cpan 14:27 braedon|home any more info further up? 14:27 braedon|home i never found the final message particularly helpful :) 14:29 wizzyrea_laptop oh it's some problem with my incudes 14:29 wizzyrea_laptop includes* 14:29 wizzyrea_laptop mutters 14:29 wizzyrea_laptop Can't locate inc/Module/Install.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.0 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.0 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at Makefile.PL line 1. 14:30 braedon|home ah, yeah 14:30 braedon|home the famous Module::Install 14:30 wizzyrea_laptop aha 14:30 wizzyrea_laptop yes, it likes that one 14:35 chris_n wizzyrea_laptop: you can just 'sudo cpan Module::Install' 14:36 chris_n and then you should be able to cpan PDF::API2::Simple 14:38 wizzyrea_laptop yep, it's working on it 14:40 * braedon|home yawns 14:40 braedon|home time for bed 14:41 braedon|home have to get up in 7 hours 14:41 braedon|home damn 10am starts! 14:41 braedon|home night #koha 14:44 chris_n g'night 14:45 wizzyrea_laptop heh, Module::Install won't go either 14:45 wizzyrea_laptop fml 14:45 wizzyrea_laptop lol 14:45 kmkale hi all 14:45 kmkale argh what a day 14:48 hdl wizzyrea_laptop: is it you who is coping with www.koha-community.org ? 14:48 hdl I am trying to register. 14:48 wizzyrea_laptop I thought I gave you an account? 14:49 wizzyrea_laptop :) 14:49 wizzyrea_laptop hdl: fwiw, I already posted about your release and updated the download page 14:49 hdl thanks. 14:50 owen Anyone else getting an upgrade warning on about.pl for "Storable" ? 14:51 chris_n yup 14:51 chris_n but I didn't set the required version there, so I'm afraid to touch it 14:52 chris_n the latest cpan version is 2.21 14:58 chris_n owen: 'sudo cpan Storable' fixes it 14:58 chris_n you can't get it from apt as it is distributed in the perl package afaict 15:00 owen Hunh, I thought I tried cpanning it. I guess not. 15:00 * owen no longer has any colored dependencies 15:01 * chris_n likes that better than a screen full of green :) 15:04 wizzyrea_laptop anyone have any thoughts on getting Module::Install to install? 15:04 chris_n what's the error? 15:04 owen "sudo apt-get install libmodule-install-perl" worked for me on Ubuntu 15:05 chris_n ^^ what he said 15:05 wizzyrea_laptop owen, I like your style 15:05 wizzyrea_laptop that worked I think 15:06 owen It was sekjal's suggestion: http://old.nabble.com/problem-with-PDF%3A%3AAPI2%3A%3ASimple-installation-td28077493.html 15:12 chris_n owen: feel free to make any improvements on my markup in the about.pl template and step1 installer template 15:12 * chris_n is not a markup master... yet :) 15:13 gmcharlt has Debian picked a name for 7.0 yet? 15:38 wizzyrea_laptop I only have graphics::magick left ^.^ 15:38 wizzyrea_laptop yay! 15:56 nengard wizzyrea did you figure out how to get graphics:magick to upgrade? 15:58 wizzyrea_laptop nope 15:59 wizzyrea_laptop it's a requirement if you are using patron pictures, I think 15:59 * wizzyrea_laptop is not using pics, so thusly, meh, doesn't matter so much 16:14 chris_n wizzyrea_laptop, nengard: I have submitted a patch to back down the required version of G::M so the upgrade notice should go away once that is applied 16:14 nengard chris_n - nope i'm still not at the right version 16:14 wizzyrea_laptop mmm it probably won't actually, i'm stil on 1.1.11 or somesuch 16:15 nengard same for me 16:15 wizzyrea_laptop I didn't see a package that got me to the required level 16:15 chris_n are you both on debian? 16:16 wizzyrea_laptop yep 16:16 chris_n om 16:17 chris_n lenny? 16:17 chris_n or etch 16:17 nengard lenny 16:18 wizzyrea_laptop ^^ 16:19 chris_n well, 1.11.x is the only available for lenny... squeeze has 1.3.5-6 available 16:19 wizzyrea_laptop *nod* that was what I found 16:19 chris_n in all, it is probably a non-issue 16:19 wizzyrea_laptop what should I test to find out? 16:19 chris_n as the methods I use are pretty standard and have been for awhile 16:19 chris_n patron card tool 16:20 chris_n and add a patron picture 16:20 wizzyrea_laptop k 16:20 chris_n then export to pdf and see if it blows chunks 16:20 wizzyrea_laptop hehe 16:20 wizzyrea_laptop mmm chunks 16:20 chris_n I use it to create display and print quality pics for embedding in the pdf 16:22 wizzyrea_laptop well uploading works 16:24 wizzyrea_laptop chris_n: 16:25 * wizzyrea_laptop works fine as far as I can tell 16:25 wizzyrea_laptop hm, that's annoying lol 16:25 wizzyrea_laptop (my irc client not the patron card thingie) 16:25 wizzyrea_laptop the patron card thingie is neat 16:26 * chris_n is glad to know that all the proper modules are installed ensuring that wizzyrea_laptop works fine :) 16:27 wizzyrea_laptop yea, finally got that upgrade to Im::WithThe::Band this weekend 16:29 chris_n lol 16:36 wizzyrea_laptop wow, koha is looking really slick nowadays 16:39 chris_n slick++ 17:37 jwagner owen, online? 17:41 nengard yikes- it's nearly 2 and i didn't have lunch - guess i should do that 17:41 wizzyrea_laptop ^.^ 17:48 cait hi #koha 17:48 jdavidb hi, cait! :) 17:59 cait :) 18:02 owen jwagner: Back. 18:04 jwagner Hi owen -- had a jquery question but I think I answered it myself. I've had several people asking if the Submit button on the OPAC patron account page could be hidden (i.e., they don't want users to submit changes). 18:05 * chris_n heads out to get his birthday blizzard 18:05 jwagner I couldn't find a way to do it unless I modified the template to wrap a div around that part of the form. 18:05 wizzyrea_laptop !! it's your birtday? 18:05 wizzyrea_laptop birthday* 18:05 jwagner chris_n, I trust you meant a Dairy Queen blizzard and not the frozen precipitation sort :-) (And can I have one too???) 18:06 * jwagner wishes chris_n a happy birthday too 18:06 chris_n wizzyrea_laptop.. ypu 18:06 chris_n yup 18:06 * wizzyrea_laptop makes an earthworm birthday cake with caterpillar icing (and red-hot marshmallow squirters) 18:06 wizzyrea_laptop for chris_n 18:06 chris_n lol! 18:07 chris_n I'll think about you all while I'm indulging :) 18:07 gmcharlt chris_n: happy birthday 18:07 owen jwagner: $("#opac-userupdate fieldset.action").hide(); 18:07 chris_n tnx gmcharlt 18:07 chris_n bbl 18:09 jwagner owen, thanks! I had tried variations on #fieldset and #action, but not fieldset.action. Saves me a customization :-) 18:10 collum Happy Birthday, chris_n. I was pleasantly surprised by the variety of Blizzards now available, when we went to DQ this past weekend. 18:11 cait Happy Birthday chris_n / Alles Gute zum Geburtstag :) 18:11 sekjal yes, Happy Birthday, chris_n. 18:11 * sekjal now really wants a Blizzard 18:11 jwagner It's really tough being addicted to Dairy Queen ice cream and not having any DQs within a 30-mile radius of where I live :-( 18:15 jdavidb There's a DQ at Montgomery Mall, jwagner; it just serves ice cream and drinks, not the full menu. (Which frustrates me. The fried jalapenos are greasy goodness.) 18:19 jwagner There's one at Bowie Town Center too. Neither of them is within easy reach :-( 18:19 jwagner (OK, maybe a 10-mile radius, not 30. Still not something I can swing by on the way home....) 18:20 jdavidb Right, and no drive-thru, either, I betcha. The one at Monty Mall doesn't, I'm sure. 18:22 jdavidb the one in Germantown has a drive-thru; maybe you could con dbirmingham into picking something up--he lives way out there. :P 18:23 jwagner It would melt!!! 18:23 jdavidb yeah, the commute from almost-Pennsylvania is a long one. 18:23 jwagner My sister thinks it's funny that I insist on going to DQ every time I visit her. Harrumph. 18:24 collum I have to hit a Braum's and a What-a-Burger every time I go to TX. 18:25 * jdavidb thinks "Bruams", and shudders. 18:25 * wizzyrea_laptop works with one of the braum's (no joke) 18:25 jdavidb Braums just burned me out bad, when I lived there. Lots of 'em are just really dumpy. Whataburger, however, is another story. 18:26 * jwagner is now VERY hungry. The green peppers, carrots, and fruit for lunch just isn't doing the job.... 18:26 jdavidb collum, did you hear that Whata is moving their HQ from Corpus Christi to San Antonio? Ostensibly, it's because they've outgrown the CC labor market--being wiped out repeatedly by hurricanes is probably a more-likely explanation. 18:28 collum jdavidb: No, I didn't. However, that's a good place to move to, if you have to move. 18:29 jdavidb yeah, SA is nice. huge, sprawling thing, with almost-no public transit, but a lovely climate most of the year. 18:30 gmcharlt miserable excuse for a tourist district, though 18:30 collum You just describe most of the cities in TX. 18:30 collum Except west TX. 18:30 * gmcharlt does not get why people seemed so excited about Riverwalk 18:30 jdavidb You've clearly not been west of Ft Worth much. 18:32 * collum got stuck in Waco during an ice storm one weekend for what seemed to be a month. 18:32 jdavidb Abiene was nice, except when Lubbock jumped up and threw itself at us. The sky would turn dirt-brown for a while... 18:33 * collum spent his first 7 years in Lubbock and remembers the mud on everything when it rained during a sand storm. 18:35 chris gmcharlt: you wanna see some cricket in florida this weekend? 18:36 gmcharlt heh. where? 18:36 chris http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/3707498/Vettori-Oram-brace-baseball-debut 18:36 chris looks like miami 18:36 chris nz vs sri lanka 18:37 jwagner That's baseball, not cricket! The ceremonial first pitch doesn't count!!!! 18:37 gmcharlt chris: not quite badly enough to want to drive 300 miles :) 18:38 chris read the whole article jwagner :) 18:38 chris gmcharlt: fair enough :) 18:38 jwagner oh, OK. Still doesn't count :-) 18:38 * jwagner ducks 18:41 owen What am I seeing in this screenshot? "Holdings (1 items in 1 groups)" 18:41 owen http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=782 18:41 owen Groups? 18:42 gmcharlt owen: part of the LLEK holdings feature 18:42 jwagner owen, that's an LLEK site. 18:42 owen Okay, that's what I thought 19:39 owen wizzyrea_laptop: http://zivotdesign.com/examples/koha-community-favicon.ico ? 19:39 owen What do you think? 19:39 wizzyrea_laptop owen++ 19:43 chris ok bus time 19:43 chris back in a bit 19:44 wajasu owen++ 20:26 wizzyrea_laptop doh 20:26 wizzyrea_laptop @later tell owen the favicon is up on k-c.org, it looks cool. :) 20:26 munin wizzyrea_laptop: The operation succeeded. 20:28 libtek Anyone here familiar with implimenting Koha with a consortium? 20:28 wizzyrea_laptop <- 20:28 wizzyrea_laptop @eightball will spring ever come back? 20:28 munin wizzyrea_laptop: It is possible. 20:28 wizzyrea_laptop sigh. 20:39 chris back 20:40 wizzyrea_laptop wb 20:40 chris libtek: wizzyrea_laptop works in a consortium that uses koha 20:43 chris @later tell owen yeah that favicon rules! 20:43 munin chris: The operation succeeded. 20:52 chris hi richard and schuster 20:52 richard hiya 20:53 schuster Hey - just dropping in to mention something to gmcharlt... 20:53 schuster Has anyone tested the firefox plugin for offline circ? 20:53 wizzyrea_laptop I couldn't ever get it to work with our old/busted produciton install 20:53 wizzyrea_laptop but that's not by any stretch a condemnation, I"m sure it works with newer versions 20:54 schuster I thought there were 3.2 dependancies so never tried it with 3.0x 20:55 chris ive never tried it either 20:55 wizzyrea_laptop welp 20:55 wizzyrea_laptop guess we have a project now :P 20:56 chris not me, ive got enough projects :) 20:56 wizzyrea_laptop lol I didn't mean you. 20:56 wizzyrea_laptop :D 20:58 wizzyrea_laptop @later tell paul_p the KOCT download hosted at https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/14399/ doesn't seem to be working, warns of possible download corruption? 20:58 munin wizzyrea_laptop: The operation succeeded. 21:00 wizzyrea_laptop is there an alternate download location for that? 21:00 wizzyrea_laptop the offline circ plugin, that is? 21:15 hdl wizzyrea_laptop: some work never got posted for 3.2 since it was for 3.4 21:15 wizzyrea_laptop ah 21:15 hdl But you can see check it out from git.biblibre.com:koha_biblibre.git 21:15 hdl master branch 21:16 hdl It is quite nice. 21:17 hdl Would be even more interesting, if we had ajax circulation with correct warnings. 21:17 wizzyrea_laptop hdl: true 21:29 nengard_lunch gmcharlt around? 21:30 gmcharlt yep 21:48 wajasu if my librarian want 245c shown in results and or detail displays, what is the best route? XSLT mode? Plus edit XSLT? or edit the templates? Or? 21:50 wizzyrea_laptop seems odd that it wouldn't be shown by default 21:50 wajasu as it was my librarian figured out how to add 245b via the koha mappings, and that showed in either results or detail. 21:50 wajasu thats what my librarian said. 21:50 wajasu at 1st the config was set to Normal, then he set it to XSLT. 21:51 wajasu He said the 245b wasn't even being shown until he added a koha mapping. 21:52 wizzyrea_laptop you don't have it set to hidden in your framework do you? 21:52 wajasu let me look 21:55 wajasu no. we're usng the default frameork (books...) 21:55 * larsw thinks Kohacon should perhaps have pgp keysigning thing 21:56 chris oh good idea 21:57 wajasu the way he might have got 245b to show was he said he switch a view from normal to XSLT 21:57 wajasu maybe the normal view is missing showing the 245b 21:58 wajasu i'll go look at code 21:58 wajasu and whether 245c is shown in either 21:58 wizzyrea_laptop i'm pretty sure the 245c is supposed to be shown 21:59 wajasu if fixed my unicode issue. maybe i should add some gained knowledge in the wiki on that unicode page. is that publicly editable? 21:59 chris wiki.koha-community.org 21:59 wajasu ok 21:59 chris yes, you need to sign up, but you can do it with openid (or just make an account) 22:00 larsw ooh, openid 22:00 wajasu i'll put it on my todo list. 22:03 wizzyrea_laptop it's really not showing? 22:04 wajasu i'm glad a search for Jürgen and Jurgen both show up with ü in the database. 22:04 wizzyrea_laptop http://screencast.com/t/OTI3MWRjYzI <- this is utterly default 22:05 wajasu let me check. i got 10 complaints to check with know specific records. Let me pick one. 22:08 wizzyrea_laptop with XSLT 22:12 wajasu i found a rec with 245c and don't see anything after the / and i set both OPAC XSLTDetaiilsDisplay and Searching XSLTResultsDisplay to XSLT. (I. onthat alpha tar from a month ago) 22:13 wizzyrea_laptop and the marc record has the 245c in it? 22:13 wizzyrea_laptop (sorry for the obvious question) 22:13 wizzyrea_laptop do you have a public URL for your opac? 22:14 wajasu http://library.redeemerseminary.org/ 22:14 wajasu try BR 115 .P7 P764 2003 22:16 cait wajasu: jürgen? where are you from? 22:16 wajasu i just set both opac and searching to normal to see if 245b went away. But its still there. 22:16 wizzyrea_laptop well, the c is on the 2nd line... I must not be understanding what you're asking 22:17 wajasu i'm in dallas tx. but you know since its a theological seminary, those german are such deep thinkers :) so lots of foreign diacritics for authors. etc. 22:17 wizzyrea_laptop http://screencast.com/t/ZDIyMzUyMWU 22:18 wajasu you are right. thats it. 22:19 wajasu i think i did the dame mistake and looked for black text after the / 22:19 wajasu u formatted it fine. 22:19 wajasu my bad. 22:19 wizzyrea_laptop nah, not bad. :) 22:20 wizzyrea_laptop it's neat because clicking on it generates a search for it 22:21 cait wajasu: :) 22:21 cait ok, I give up on my homework and go to sleep - good night #koha 22:21 cait jsp-- 22:21 wizzyrea_laptop gnite cait 22:21 cait bye wizzyrea :) 22:23 wajasu maybe with all that nice formatting work, the / could be removed. Or do you want it cut n' pastable for another reason. 22:24 wizzyrea_laptop well it's the stupid ISBD punctuation.... it would be cool if you could have the option to filter that out 22:26 chris wizzyrea_laptop: i hope you are wearing body armour 22:26 wajasu sure after a space trim, and a check for trailing ISBD / , etc just eat it, since we're dishing out HTML. 22:26 chris and you too wajasu 22:26 wizzyrea_laptop i kno rite 22:26 chris cos cataloguers are gonna stab you now 22:26 wizzyrea_laptop ISBD is religion 22:26 wajasu oh 22:26 wizzyrea_laptop but it's not really patron friendly 22:26 wajasu marc is too 22:26 wizzyrea_laptop and makes us look kind of stupid 22:26 chris but yeah, filtering on the opac 22:27 chris im all for that 22:27 wizzyrea_laptop "don't they know how to punctuate crap?" 22:27 wizzyrea_laptop I can see it on the staff side 22:28 * wizzyrea_laptop gets out her body armor, including her bullet proof bubble 22:28 wizzyrea_laptop but seriously, patrons don't give a crap about that stuff. 22:28 chris nope, they most surely don't 22:28 wizzyrea_laptop you've already got an option to look straight at the marc 22:28 chris or you could just poke hot pokers in your eyes 22:28 wizzyrea_laptop lol 22:29 chris its been tons of fun showing koha to ppl here at work 22:29 larsw while we're on the topic of suicide-by-annoyed-librarian... would a pgp signing be interesting just for koha devs, or also the general conference? 22:29 brendan @wunder 93117 22:29 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 14.8�C (3:28 PM PDT on May 17, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015.1 hPa (Falling). 22:30 chris i can't say for sure, but i think more for the devs .. what do you reckon wizzyrea_laptop ? you think many librarians would have a pgp key? or would want to get one? 22:31 wizzyrea_laptop that's a tough one 22:31 wizzyrea_laptop you would probably have to convince them of why they needed one, and/or educate them at the most basic level 22:31 wizzyrea_laptop but 22:32 wizzyrea_laptop anyone who would come to kohacon is likely a little more advanced than that 22:32 wizzyrea_laptop how's that for waffling 22:32 chris :) 22:32 wizzyrea_laptop I say for the devs 22:32 wizzyrea_laptop if I have to make a choice lol 22:32 larsw I see it useful for librarians for verifying Koha releases, and for exchanging confidential/sensitive data with service providers, but not sure if those are sufficient reasons 22:33 chris how about we combine a talk about pgp/gpg and why its good with a keysigning after? 22:33 wizzyrea_laptop ^^