Time Nick Message 00:03 jwagner OK, I'm really going to sign off this time & get some rest :-) See you all tomorrow. 00:04 jransom good night jane 00:11 * chris_n chose to install one perl module and it looks like he got all of cpan in the deal :-P 00:11 chris heh 00:11 chris moose? 00:16 chris_n how'd you guess :) 00:19 chris hi brendan 00:19 brendan hey chris 00:23 chris_n 'evening brendan 00:23 brendan hey chris_n 00:24 chris_n *sigh* 00:24 chris_n 'cpan *' would have been just as fast 00:27 brendan @roulette 00:27 munin brendan: *click* 00:27 brendan thanks 00:52 chris_n heya genji 00:54 genji hiya all 00:56 chris_n genji: I left you a message with munin, but I used Genji, so I'm not sure you got it 00:56 Genji okay. now how do i ask for messageS? 00:57 chris_n @later help 00:57 munin chris_n: Error: The "Later" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "help" in it. Try "list Later" to see the commands in the "Later" plugin. 00:57 chris_n @help later 00:57 munin chris_n: Error: There is no command "later". 00:58 chris @help tell 00:58 munin chris: (tell <nick> <text>) -- Tells the <nick> whatever <text> is. Use nested commands to your benefit here. 00:58 Genji okay.. nevermind.. whats the message? 00:58 gmcharlt whew! http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/PTFSHarleyIntegration done 00:58 chris awesome !!! 00:58 chris ok if i link to that from my blog post? 00:58 chris_n Genji: munin should have pm'd you with it 00:58 Genji didn't. 00:58 chris_n hmm... it was too long to remember :( 00:59 chris_n had to do with your git problem 00:59 Genji what was it regarding? 00:59 Genji ah. 00:59 Genji bummer. 00:59 Genji did you msg munin? or tell on channel? 01:03 Genji ya, i got that * 01:05 Genji chris_n? 01:06 chris_n sorry, there is a way to get munin to confess, but I've forgotton how 01:07 gmcharlt @notes 01:07 munin gmcharlt: I currently have notes waiting for christ, Genji:, gmcharlt:, hdl:, hdl_laptop:, km_kale, kmkale:, LadyNight32, matts, nengard:, nicole, owen:, paul, Schuster:, sekjal:, seneca:, slef:, thd-away, and wizzyrea:. 01:07 gmcharlt @notes Genju 01:07 munin gmcharlt: Error: I have no notes for that nick. 01:07 gmcharlt @notes Genji 01:07 munin gmcharlt: Error: I have no notes for that nick. 01:07 gmcharlt @notes Genji: 01:07 munin gmcharlt: Sent 1 day, 23 hours, and 19 minutes ago: <chris_n> Starting with a 3.0.x tracking branch, you might do something like: 'git checkout 67e20d82ffdfc' then 'git checkout -b 3.0.094' which will get you a branch at the same point of your current version based on what I read in the irc logs 01:07 gmcharlt @notes gmcharlt: 01:07 munin gmcharlt: Sent 13 weeks, 3 days, 23 hours, and 33 minutes ago: <chris_n> it does not look as if this patch made it in yet: http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=1401 01:08 gmcharlt it's the colons that are messing things up 01:08 slef ??? 01:08 slef @notes slef: 01:08 munin slef: Sent 18 weeks, 0 days, 3 hours, and 41 minutes ago: <chris_n> see my post to the list regarding the patron card creator 01:08 * chris_n is very guilty of that mistake :-\ 01:08 Genji whats the branch numbers? 01:09 chris_n they are the hash of a commit 01:09 Genji i mean -b 3.0.094 01:09 chris_n ahh -b creates a branch on the fly 01:10 chris_n 3.0.094 is the name of the new branch 01:10 chris_n ie. the version number you are at iirc 01:10 Genji so checking out after a checkout with a new branch number, creates it? 01:10 chris_n but you can name it anything 01:10 chris_n not exactly 01:11 chris_n 'git checkout -b foo' creates a branch 'foo' and checks it out 01:11 chris_n what I said above involves checking out two things: 01:12 chris_n 1. a temporary "branch" at <commit> 01:12 chris_n 2. a new working branch 'foo' off of that temporary branch 01:13 chris_n you're question as I recall was how to rebase only to a certian commit 01:13 chris_n this is effectively the same thing and probably easier 01:15 chris_n if, indeed, you started your work over that version, you may be able to copy your changed files over this branch and come up with a series of commits that represent your work 01:15 * chris_n thinks that is still easier said then done 01:20 Genji temporary branch at commit... means that commit and any before it, right? 01:21 chris wow, that david sure likes to write a lot 01:22 chris_n Genji: correct 01:23 chris he also thinks im you chris_n :) 01:23 * chris_n noticed that :) 01:24 chris_n if we work this right, we should be able to go 7/24 forever 01:26 chris_n Genji: so I just looked back at the commit number for the patch that bumped the version to .094 and checked out at that commit 01:27 chris http://newsbreaks.infotoday.com/NewsBreaks/Open-Library-Upgrading-Its-Service-67119.asp 01:27 slef huh? PTFS just released Koha 3.2??? 01:29 gmcharlt slef: nope 01:29 chris im choosing to look it at as ptfs now have lots of their code in a public repo, and im ignoring the marketing bs 01:31 slef after the day I've had, I really didn't want to spend tomorrow taking calls from librarians asking when they can have the new stable tested Koha release and why we've been telling them the alpha has just been released :-/ 01:32 slef I am really sick of LMS vendors who issue a press release each time a developer publishes or a client forgets to tick the box for no publicity on an order. 01:32 slef Actually, not just LMS vendors. 01:32 slef Bah, maybe it's time to sleep. 01:34 gmcharlt tomorrow is another day 01:42 gmcharlt heh 01:43 gmcharlt Harley Davidson is now following my twitter feed 01:44 chris heh 01:44 brendan Hard-ley Davidson that is 01:45 gmcharlt :) 01:45 gmcharlt no, the real deal, seemingly 01:45 brendan cool - do you own A harley ? 01:45 brendan wow the puns can just keep rolling 01:45 chris a few thousand lines of one 01:47 brendan this is kind of fun - I feel like yelling "come home Harley, come home" 01:48 russ harley is to close to marley ;-) 01:48 russ s/to/too 01:49 gmcharlt at least it's a consonant away from having us all talk to invisible rabbits 01:52 chris i wish slef had slept before responding to me 01:55 mason a random daily git question.... 01:56 mason how to get *all* remote branches , from a remote git-repo? 01:56 gmcharlt git fetch remote 01:57 gmcharlt i.e., the default action is to fetch all branches published by the remote repository 01:57 gmcharlt that is, assuming that you've used git-remote add 01:57 mason yep, and yep... 01:59 mason so i do that , with a '-v' and get *loads* of remote branches listed - which looks like a success! 01:59 mason but when i do a local $ git branch 01:59 chilts git branch -a 02:00 chilts (-a for all) 02:00 mason right.... 02:00 chris you have them all 02:00 chris once you do a fetch 02:01 chris the rest is just checking them out 02:01 mason hmm, why do i need an '-a' switch to see them? ( ive done this before too :/ ) 02:02 chris because it only shows you your local branches by default .. you still have them all, you just have not made a local branch 02:02 mason aah, thats the step im missing.. 02:02 * chris pulls out RFTM 02:02 chris -a 02:02 chris List both remote-tracking branches and local branches. 02:02 chris :) 02:04 chris i only did that to mason cos i know he can take it :-) 02:04 mason can i create local branches of all these remotes branches , in 1 go? 02:04 mason or do i have to do it manually? 02:05 chris don't think so .. but then why would you want to? you have all the code, just create them as you need them? 02:06 chilts you can also always refer to them as remote/branchname if you want. e.g. git log remote/branchname 02:06 mason ok, so my Q is " how do i clone a remote git-repo - and have all the remote-repo's branches defined as *local* branches, in my repo" 02:06 chilts so they're just hashes (much like any other commit) which you can use anywhere you need a hash :) 02:07 mason ... or is that just a crazy-wacky thing for anyone to do? 02:08 chris yeah 02:08 chris the latter 02:08 chris cos there is no real point to doing that 02:08 chris and you might conflict with other local branches with the same name 02:09 mason for now im happy to manually create local branches, of all the remote-branches i want to work on... 02:09 chris yep, thats they way it was designed to work :) 02:09 chris afaict 02:09 mason ... which is what ive done historically... i just wanted to know if there was a better-way that i was missing 02:09 chilts yeah, do them as you need them, typing 'git branch mybranch remote/theirbranch' isn't really too much effort 02:10 mason cool, im happy :) 02:12 chilts mason: another good one is being able to checkout remote branches : git checkout remote/branchname 02:12 chilts I find that useful sometimes, esp. if I'm just viewing 02:13 robin chris: remember meeting in 45m 02:13 mason right, but its in read-only mode then? 02:13 chris ah yeah 02:13 robin w/channel 02:13 chilts mason: correct :) 02:13 chris we probably should start walking in 15 mins or so 02:13 robin yeah 02:13 robin I just want to see if the second-last part of the import works :) 02:14 chris cool 02:14 gmcharlt mason: just for you 02:14 gmcharlt git branch -r | xargs -n 1 -I '{}' git branch mylocal/{} {} 02:15 chris heh 02:15 mason thanks galen ^-^ 03:40 Amit_G heya brendan, chris 04:25 mason hey amit, long time no chat! 04:34 Amit_G heya mason good morning 04:45 chris what a day 04:46 mason dang, i love the kohacon2010 logo 04:46 chris sweet eh 04:46 mason the motif-recursion is a nice visual hack 04:47 chris gonna look choice on a tshirt 04:47 mason layers upon layers... 04:55 chilts which reminds me, I should update the 'Wiki' link at the top of KohaCon10 04:56 chilts to the new community one :) 04:58 chris yes please 04:58 chilts on my list of things to do tonight :) 05:04 chilts wow, just stumbled accross this, pretty apt : http://blog.remoteresponder.net/2010/05/07/organizations-learning-to-contribute-to-foss-the-right-way/ 05:04 chilts "... they [companies] are all reaching the same conclusions about the proper ways to successfully contribute." 05:05 chilts it seems IBM and lots of other big and long time players have all figured out and understand how to contribute :) 05:10 genji hiya all 05:14 chris http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/PTFSHarleyIntegration 05:14 chris just rebased and sent a patch for bug3093 and a follow up so it can go into 3.2 05:14 chris hometime i think 05:15 brendan thanks chris 05:16 chris theres a couple more 3.2 ones that dont have patch sent yet, be nice to knock them off 05:16 chris maybe ill do a couple more tonight 05:16 * chris wanders off 05:19 mason another random question... 05:20 mason are we running out of $952 subfield values soon? 05:21 mason [a-z] and [0-9], then what? 05:23 mason i swear i remember galen saying the marc-spec allowed for [a0..az] subfields? but MARC::Record doesnt like that 05:24 mason anyone have an idea? 05:30 brendan get ride of MARC ? 05:30 brendan s/ride/rid 05:33 mason the available 952$subfields are starting to feel a little IP4 06:07 kmkale good morning all 06:15 Amit_G heya kmkale, nicomo 06:16 cait good morning koha 06:16 cait read back in the logs, mason still around? 06:17 cait I think MARC allows upper-case letters as subfields, I used 'I' once in koha (which is the one letter where it will get confusing) 06:19 kmkale hey amit 06:21 cait ok, time to leave for work, bbl :) 06:52 kf good morning #koha 06:57 kf hi nicomo and paul_p 06:57 kmkale hi kf 06:59 kf hi kmkale 07:18 kf any news about the mailing lists? 07:30 chris yep nahuel has fixed it 07:30 chris they should start coming through now 07:30 kmkale who can tell me how the Cart buttons background color is changed on hover? 07:31 chris owen would be the best bet kmkale 07:31 kmkale thanks chris 07:31 kmkale its a neat trick with the gradient 07:32 kmkale @seen owen 07:32 munin kmkale: owen was last seen in #koha 11 hours, 46 minutes, and 22 seconds ago: <owen> All done, folks, see you later 07:32 chris yeah he wont be around for a while yet 07:33 chris koha-devel might be a good place to ask (i dont think your timezones overlap much) 07:33 nahuel :) 07:33 chris nahuel++ #thanks for fixing the lists 07:34 nahuel so, I hope it will crash again :p 07:34 nahuel if any time I up i'm ++ 07:35 kmkale aahh got it 07:36 kmkale there is a hover section in the css 07:37 kf nahuel++ 07:37 * nahuel is going to crash again clamav ! 07:42 chris heh 07:43 chris yep i see the mail coming through now :) 07:45 Cythrax hi there, i have just installed koha 3.05 and cannot get my z39.50 search from 'Add marc record' to work. can anyone tell me which part of the installation effects this functionality? 07:46 chris could it be a firewall issue? 07:46 Cythrax i don't think so as i have an old installation on a different box (that someone else did) that works 07:47 chris you could test by trying to telnet to one of the servers on the koha server 07:48 chris eg telnet z3950.loc.gov 7090 07:48 chris if you connect, then we can rule out network issues 07:48 Cythrax it says Connected to ilsweb.loc.gov. Escape character is '^]'. 07:51 chris right so its not network 07:51 Cythrax i probably should mention that i am getting 2 different errors depending on which server i try to connect to, some are complaining about an undefined variable in z3950_search.pl and others are simply returning Connection failed 07:51 chris is there anything in the apache error logs when you try your search? 07:52 chris undefined variable will be just a warn, so can probably ignore that, the Connection failed one is the real error 07:52 kmkale firebug++ 07:53 Cythrax as a selfconfessed noob, where would i find the apache error logs? 07:58 hdl_laptop @notes hdl 07:58 munin hdl_laptop: Error: I have no notes for that nick. 07:58 chris /var/log/apache2/error.log is one to check 07:58 hdl_laptop @notes hdl: 07:58 munin hdl_laptop: Sent 30 weeks, 5 days, 6 hours, and 13 minutes ago: <ricardo> Correcting the problematic section of the PO Portuguese staff file that you pointed out solved the strange redirect problem . Thanks! :) Chris has already pushed the updated version to git 07:58 hdl_laptop @notes hdl_laptop: 07:58 munin hdl_laptop: Sent 21 weeks, 2 days, 11 hours, and 30 minutes ago: <chris_n2> disregard the previous note; there were several bugs in the en optional datasets as well as some duplicate INSERTS in sysprefs.sql; patches submitted to fix all 07:58 hdl @notes 07:58 munin hdl: I currently have notes waiting for christ, Genji:, gmcharlt:, hdl:, hdl_laptop:, km_kale, kmkale:, LadyNight32, matts, nengard:, nicole, owen:, paul, Schuster:, sekjal:, seneca:, slef:, thd-away, and wizzyrea:. 07:58 hdl @notes hdl: 07:58 munin hdl: Sent 30 weeks, 5 days, 6 hours, and 14 minutes ago: <ricardo> Correcting the problematic section of the PO Portuguese staff file that you pointed out solved the strange redirect problem . Thanks! :) Chris has already pushed the updated version to git 07:59 kmkale @notes km_kale 07:59 munin kmkale: Sent 1 week, 0 days, 13 hours, and 34 minutes ago: <chris_n> you should try resending your patch and/or checking your git send-email setup; see http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:development:git_usage#fill_some_parameters 07:59 hdl_laptop hi all 07:59 kmkale @notes kmkale 07:59 munin kmkale: Error: I have no notes for that nick. 07:59 kmkale @notes kmkale: 07:59 munin kmkale: Sent 6 days, 20 hours, and 53 minutes ago: <chris_n> I succesfully upgraded to lucid last week 07:59 chris Cythrax: the other place is /usr/share/koha/var/log 08:02 Cythrax thanks chris, the only error that shows up under error.log is that same one that appears on screen about an undefined variable in z3950_search.pl 08:02 chris dang, im running out of ideas 08:03 Cythrax oh well, thanks fo your help 08:04 Cythrax *for 08:11 chris nahuel: tons of mail in the queue to be sent? 08:15 chris right, just did 2 more patches for http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/PTFSHarleyIntegration 08:15 chris and that should be all the 3.2 ones 08:18 hdl_laptop why is notices_fix planned for 3.4 and not 3.2 ? 08:20 chris which one? 08:20 hdl_laptop last one 08:21 nahuel chilts, yes I think 08:21 chris ah because its much more than a bugfix 08:22 chris it adds new features, and a new systempreference 08:22 chris its too late for that in 3.2 now 08:24 chris its actually a poorly named branch 08:25 chris add_bccall_syspref would be a better name :-) 08:25 chris i love how easy git makes it to see the changes ;-) 08:38 chris and blam, there's all the mail in my inbox 09:31 chilts wiki link at top of KohaCon10 now points to the community wiki :) 09:35 chris thanks chilts 09:36 chilts np 09:47 chris http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=koha.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/new_features_ptfs_lost_cards 09:49 chris that took a bit longer, rebasing, and cherry picking needed, will push to git.koha-community sooon 09:50 chris ohh a patch from matt 09:50 chris cool 09:58 chris http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/new_features_ptfs_lost_cards 10:00 chilts sweet 10:01 chris updated the wiki too 10:01 kf closed wrong window :( 10:02 chris whoops 11:05 chris it's quiet ... too quiet 11:06 chilts want us to make some noise? :) 11:06 chris is someone else travelling in time pretending to be me and writing scripts 10 years ago? 11:06 chilts heh 11:07 chris http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=members/restore_cardnumber.pl;h=1b3ea75ae8e536925d1a2375b191b1ee0e85dac2;hb=8bbf70ff1b817a0bb5d452bfc59fb924bfbd9f47 11:14 kmkale opac-results.tmpl line 327 <tr><td colspan="5" class="resultscontrol" style="border : 1px solid #e8e8e8;"> is the style information necessary to be embedded here? its preventing change with css.. 11:15 chris i don't think we should have any inline styles 11:15 chris but id defer to owen on that 11:15 kmkale bug? 11:15 chris yeah 11:16 kmkale cool. will ask owen when he is around.. 11:27 chris colin++ #for the quick turnaround 11:38 chris hi jwagner and nengard 11:40 jwagner morning chris. Or evening, rather. Go to sleep :-) 11:45 jdavidb @karma jwagner 11:45 munin jdavidb: Karma for "jwagner" has been increased 33 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 33. 11:45 jdavidb @karma jdavidb 11:45 munin jdavidb: Karma for "jdavidb" has been increased 27 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 27. 11:46 jdavidb Mornin', #koha 11:46 kf morning jwagner and jdavidb 11:47 jwagner Morning, kf 11:47 jdavidb Hi, kf! :) 11:47 kmkale hi jdavidb 11:48 jwagner At the risk of letting jdavidb catch up to me in the karma stakes, jdavidb++ for a massive job of code wrangling :-) 11:48 * jdavidb is glad to *not* have a bunch of that on the list to do today, for the first time in about two months. 11:49 jwagner I'm sure I can think of OTHER things to add to your to-do list :-) 11:49 jdavidb I am sure. 11:50 jdavidb I still have plenty on my list; it's just that the 900-pound gorilla that's been there forever has left the room. For now. 11:50 kf the gorilla's name is harley? :) 11:51 gmcharlt good morning 11:51 chris did you see http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/PTFS_Harley_Integration 11:51 jdavidb sure 'nuf, kf...it is. 11:51 * jdavidb looks at the web page, and goes "squeeee!" 11:52 jwagner gmcharlt, looks like you've already been pushing some of these to head? Awesome! 11:52 * kf tries to imagine a squeeing jdavidb 11:52 jwagner He's been taking lessons from wizzyrea 11:52 kf pays off 11:53 jwagner gmcharlt and chris, I have meetings all morning but then will be updating the bugzilla entries (and the integration page with descriptions & notes) probably starting this afternoon. 11:53 chris cool 11:54 jdavidb gmcharlt, did you get any sleep at all last night? This is....incredible. 11:55 gmcharlt jwagner: regarding bugs, most of them are tag with 'ptfs-harley', but I no doubt missed a few 11:56 jwagner I'll cross-check against my list. 11:59 chris jdavidb: its the bonus of having worldwide development, someone is always awake to cherry pick and tidy 12:00 * jdavidb looks at the history of the page, and sees gmcharlt, chris and nengard all having worked on it in the 12 hours it has existed. 12:00 jdavidb gmcharlt++ 12:00 jdavidb chris++ 12:00 jdavidb nengard++ 12:01 nengard history page? I created that 20 min ago :) hehe 12:01 jwagner No, the http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/PTFSHarleyIntegration page 12:01 jdavidb http://wiki.koha-community.org/w/index.php?title=PTFS_Harley_Integration&action=history 12:01 nengard oh - 'history of the page' :) hehe 12:01 nengard sorry it's early 12:02 nengard i skipped over the words 'of the' :) hehe 12:04 chris jdavidb: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/new_features_ptfs_lost_cards thats the first go of setting up an isolated feature branch for 3.4 ... (some rebasing and cherry picking to isolate the previous cardnumber functionality) if you want I can talk you through how I did it ... but after some sleep, .. of course gmcharlt knows too .. im hoping to have a branch with the isolated features in them based off new_fea 12:05 chris that way each branch can be qa'd and merged independent of any others 12:05 chris and now i sleep 12:05 jdavidb sleep well, chris 12:06 jwagner chris and gmcharlt, one note -- several of our features depend on the granular permissions, so the granulars need to go in first. 12:06 gmcharlt jwagner: assuming that it's not too hairy, I might be talked into getting the circ granular permissions into 3.2 12:06 * jwagner sends gmcharlt bribes :-) 12:06 gmcharlt jdavidb: please note comment on bug 4238 12:07 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4238 enhancement, P5, ---, kohaprogrammers@ptfs.com, ASSIGNED, OPAC timeout feature for patron privacy 12:09 jdavidb noted, gmcharlt. Kyle was the one who did that bit for us; we'll work out how to chase this down here. 12:09 gmcharlt jwagner: jdavidb: for the circ granular permissions, I suggest that ptfs/Bug3500 be a priority for rebasing against head 12:12 jwagner Yep, that's the whole set. 12:12 jdavidb Once I get a few things knocked out here, gmcharlt, I'll take a look at rebasing that. It touches many, many files, but mostly by inserts, rather than edits. 12:14 hdl_laptop has any of you played with icu searches 12:15 jdavidb I've tinkered with using icu to get diacritics happy, hdl_laptop, but I'm not sure I'm happy with the outcome of that. 12:16 hdl_laptop jdavidb: I am having really really weird results 12:17 jdavidb wierd in what way? 12:17 hdl_laptop for instance searching "code sécurité sociale" or "code securite sociale" donot bring same results 12:17 hdl_laptop 2075 results for the first 12:17 hdl_laptop 6 for the second. 12:18 * jdavidb blinks 12:18 jdavidb I would expect it to be exactly the opposite. 12:18 hdl_laptop In fact, looking at the first query, it appears that it only searches for code 12:18 hdl_laptop and leave sécurité sociale apart 12:19 hdl_laptop But if you search sécurité sociale, without code, then you get the results you want. 12:19 jdavidb O.o 12:19 hdl_laptop Not sure it is an icu oddities though. 12:19 hdl_laptop But it is really likely to be. 12:19 jdavidb icu seems to be a strange acronym for "randomize search results", at first look. 12:20 kf hfjs.bsz-bw.de has icu indexing, its 3.01.61, if you wnat to test there 12:20 kf I tested with bibliothe/è/éque 12:20 hdl_laptop thanks kf 12:21 kf I got the same results, but did not test with more than one term 12:21 hdl_laptop it is not failing when searching for a single word. 12:21 * owen finds that slew of emails he was looking for 12:21 hdl_laptop It is the combination of words which makes it "fuzzy" 12:22 jdavidb My first run at icu, I got a *lot* fewer search results, which really boggled my mind. Searching for Gonzalez didn't pick up González, but I was getting a bunch of other hits. Turned ICU on and got *nothing*, until I turned Fuzzy off. Then I got what I wanted, but less than originally. Fuzzy adds all sorts of mud to the mix. 12:22 kf Bibliothèque Archéologique seems to work 12:28 hdl_laptop seems it is not icu dependent 12:28 hdl_laptop s/dependent/related/ 12:29 hdl_laptop or maybe only with some special words 12:29 hdl_laptop like code. 12:32 kmkale hdl_laptop if you remember I had similar questions to you regarding icu and Devanagari script 12:33 kmkale I get all the results with fuzzy turned off but the sorting is all wrong 12:34 hdl_laptop sorting is really different from searching 12:34 hdl_laptop kmkale: in fact, zebra first gets the results and then sort them. 12:34 hdl_laptop And you can sort without using icu 12:35 owen @notes owen: 12:35 munin owen: Sent 6 weeks, 4 days, and 0 hours ago: <chris_n> I got the ajax version of DataTable working in my app; I'm going to do some testing and then plan to workup a test branch to test it in Koha 12:35 kmkale oh so icu is not used in definig the sorting order but zebra does it on it own is it? 12:38 hdl_laptop kmkale: problem for sorting indexes is that icu transforms the strings into internal hashes So that if you order on icu processed chains, you will have really bad order 12:40 hdl_laptop This is why in the default.idx I posted, you have 12:40 hdl_laptop sort s 12:40 hdl_laptop completeness 1 12:40 hdl_laptop charmap sort-string-utf.chr 12:40 hdl_laptop and not 12:40 hdl_laptop icuchain icu.xml 12:41 owen kmkale: I wrote a blog post about customizing the Cart and Lists buttons: http://www.myacpl.org/koha/?p=217 12:41 kmkale thats the one I am using and still my sorting for Devanagari is wrong. so where do I need to change to get it correct? 12:41 kmkale owen: i got that. neat.. 12:42 * owen saw your query in the log 12:43 jwagner owen, I may come back & pick your brains on the customizing buttons bit -- I have a site where I was trying to change the color of the buttons. No problem changing the list one, but the cart button was really obstinate. I verified the stylesheet setting that I was using the right one, etc., but it wouldn't budge. 12:43 hdl_laptop maybe your sort-string-utf.chr need tweaking in order to fit your needs. 12:43 kmkale owen: i have a couple of style related queries if you have a min 12:43 owen jwagner: I always have to go through my own checklist when I do that, it's not always obvious what needs to be changed. 12:43 owen kmkale: Sure 12:44 kmkale hdl_laptop: i will try that 12:44 hdl_laptop kmkale: perhaps also that since zebra is making strange things with hindu script, translitterating them into @@@@ you could have better results using icuchain also for sorting 12:45 kmkale hdl_laptop: meaning? transliterate on the fly? 12:45 hdl_laptop http://userguide.icu-project.org/services 12:46 hdl_laptop ICU provides the following collation classes for sorting and searching natural language text according to locale-specific rules:Collator 12:46 hdl_laptop Collator is the abstract base class of all classes that compare strings.CollationElementIterator 12:46 hdl_laptop CollationElementIterator is a concrete iterator class that provides an iterator for stepping through each character of a locale-specific string according to the rules of a specific collator object. RuleBasedCollator 12:46 hdl_laptop RuleBasedCollator is the only built-in implementation of the collator. It provides a sophisticated mechanism for comparing strings in a language-specific manner, and an interface that allows the user to specifically customize the sorting order.CollationKey 12:46 hdl_laptop CollationKey is an object that enables the fast sorting of strings by representing a string as a sort key under the rules of a specific collator object. 12:46 hdl_laptop Maybe we could make use of those things in icu 12:47 kmkale hdl_laptop: over my head presently but will read up 12:48 kmkale oops 12:50 jwagner owen, I'm about to go into meetings for the morning -- maybe I can get with you this afternoon or tomorrow to figure out what I'm doing wrong. Thanks. 12:50 kmkale hdl_laptop: is there an example of sort-string-utf.chr available? 12:51 hdl_laptop kmkale: there is the one in git.koha.org 12:51 kmkale I dont seem to have that file and may be thats why my sorting is all wrong 12:51 kmkale thanks hdl_laptop 12:52 hdl_laptop etc/zebradb/lang_defs/fr/sort-string-utf.chr 12:53 kmkale hdl_laptop: got it. its there for en. So basic question which one is used? do I need one separately for Devanagari? and where do I define how to reach it? 12:54 hdl_laptop yes there is. 12:54 hdl_laptop I guess it is the en that is used by default 12:54 hdl_laptop in default.idx 12:58 kmkale in default.idx it says charmap sort-string-utf.chr where is it defined whether en or fr etc? 12:59 gmcharlt kmkale: can you advise if bug 4343 can be closed? 12:59 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4343 major, P4, ---, oleonard@myacpl.org, NEW, OPAC My Account - Users unable to See Loans/Reserves 12:59 gmcharlt rather, bug 4323 12:59 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4323 blocker, P5, ---, henridamien@koha-fr.org, ASSIGNED, Web Installer fails with table already exists and loops on step 3 13:00 nelsonlib Hey guys - sorry to interrupt - ut I am having a problem with my label printing batches 13:01 kmkale gmcharlt: yes 13:01 gmcharlt kmkale: cool, please do so 13:02 kf gmcharlt: will bug 3203 be integrated in 3.2? there is no version number on the wiki 13:02 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3203 normal, P5, ---, henridamien@koha-fr.org, NEW, Some Letters template variables are not available to certain notice types 13:02 owen nelsonlib: Jump in with your actual question. If anyone can, they'll answer 13:02 kmkale done 13:02 gmcharlt kf: possibly; I haven't looked at that on in detail yet 13:03 nelsonlib Thanks, owen 13:03 nelsonlib So - my problem is that when I do a wildcard '%' search on the 'Title' on records when I want to add items to a label batch - I get a lot of blank records 13:03 kmkale owen: opac-results.tmpl line 327 <tr><td colspan="5" class="resultscontrol" style="border : 1px solid #e8e8e8;"> is the style information necessary to be embedded here? its preventing change with css.. 13:03 nelsonlib In my test library, I have 94 records, and it is finding all 94, but only 22 are displaying their information, there are still blank boxes for the remaining records 13:04 kf gmcharlt: its on my list of 'annoying things' because difficult to predict which fields work in a template, would be nice to have a better solution here 13:04 nelsonlib And no matter how far in the pagination I go, I cannot get the remaining records to show up 13:05 * owen thinks Oh good for once git-blame doesn't blame me 13:07 kmkale owen: also opac-advsearch.tmpl line 118 div id pubrange is having class=container while all others on the page are having class=yui-g . Is it ok to change from container to yui-g? its causing problems while changing background 13:08 owen kmkale: No, I don't see any reason for that style to be embedded. It should be moved to the default css 13:08 owen kmkale: To keep the advsearch template consistent, we should wrap the #pubrange div in a div.yui-g 13:09 kmkale owen: ok. should I file bugs? 13:10 owen Those are such small issues I probably wouldn't file a bug report. Will you submit a patch? Or would you like me to? 13:11 kmkale i am still fighting with git. if you could ? 13:11 owen Sure 13:11 kmkale thanks 13:12 kmkale owen: any ideas about getting rounded corners for yui-b and yui-g? it would look really cool imho 13:13 owen kmkale: The "container" divs were added originally in order to be a hook for rounded corners. Have you tried using that ? 13:13 kmkale aahh.. 13:14 owen kmkale: Liblime's OPAC demo shows an implementation which uses JavaScript to achieve the corners 13:14 owen http://public.demo.kohalibrary.com/ 13:14 kmkale thanks owen. 13:15 kmkale nice 13:15 * owen has started using CSS3's border-radius property for other projects lately 13:15 * owen thinks it's time to give up on IE and start using border-radius widely 13:15 kmkale :) 13:18 owen Some trivia: Here's the library that OPAC design was produced for: http://www.hclibrary.org/ 13:19 owen ...but they never ended up migrating to Koha apparently. 13:20 kmkale looks like same css 13:28 owen Can anyone help me out with Bug 4418? 13:28 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4418 normal, P5, ---, oleonard@myacpl.org, NEW, required patron attributes not red 13:28 owen nengard says "When you create a patron attribute you can say whether it's required or not. " 13:28 owen ...but I don't see where 13:29 owen I don't see anything here: /cgi-bin/koha/admin/patron-attr-types.pl?op=add_attribute_type 13:33 owen Okay, I'll try another one: Anyone know where the patch is for bug 4238? 13:33 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4238 enhancement, P5, ---, kohaprogrammers@ptfs.com, ASSIGNED, OPAC timeout feature for patron privacy 13:34 hdl_laptop owen: there is BorrowerMandatoryFields system preference iirc (bug 4418) 13:34 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4418 normal, P5, ---, oleonard@myacpl.org, NEW, required patron attributes not red 13:35 owen hdl_laptop: Oh, does that work with patron attributes as well? 13:36 owen It doesn't seem to 13:37 hdl_laptop I think that a good jquery to set class on the Mandatory fields could be helpful 13:37 jdavidb owen, re bug 4238, take a look at the top three commits at http://github.com/ptfs/Koha-PTFS/commits/Bug4238 13:37 brendan morning 13:38 jdavidb Hi, brendan! 13:38 owen Thanks jdavidb 14:30 owen fuzzy_use_of_terminology-- 14:31 gmcharlt namely? 14:31 owen The "New Stable Release of Koha" bugs me. http://www.librarytechnology.org/ltg-displaytext.pl?RC=14735 14:31 owen Baby steps I guess. 14:35 moodaepo owen: I would have expected Breeding to be better at use_of_terminology I think he was here for one of the Koha meetings 14:36 gmcharlt moodaepo: that part of librarytechnology.org merely republishes press releases 14:36 moodaepo gmcharlt: ah I did not know that. 15:03 kmkale owen: http://www.screencast.com/t/MTBhNTM4 does it look right? 15:03 owen Very nice! 15:04 kmkale css3 15:04 kmkale to hell with IE 15:05 wizzyrea kmkale that's beautiful! 15:06 kmkale although I am going to try something like this http://www.schillmania.com/projects/dialog2/ to see if it accomodates IE 15:06 kmkale thanks wizzyrea 15:06 kmkale and thanks to owen 15:07 kf kmkale: really nice! 15:08 kmkale thanks kf 15:08 kmkale wizzyrea: did you get a chance to relook at that patch? 15:09 kmkale i would really like for someone to apply it to head and see if it works 15:16 ccurry Good morning, everyone. I have a quick question (I hope) about Acquisitions. 15:17 ccurry Is it possible to easily configure the acquisitions module (or just the cataloging module in general) to use a particular framework when creating a record of a particular item type? 15:17 kmkale bye all.. good night 15:18 ccurry We're using dummy subscription records to track our serials acquisitions budget, but we want to suppress the bibs we're using to do so. 15:19 ccurry I've figured out how to suppress the records with OpacSuppression and 942$n, but I can't figure out how to do it automatically. Our catalogers would be required to edit the record after the order is received. Not a big deal, but I'd like to automate this if I can. 15:20 ccurry We're using an exclusive item type for this purpose, so I had hoped we'd be able to link the item type to a MARC framework, and use the default value for 942$n to automatically suppress these records. Any ideas? 15:20 ccurry And I suppose I should say good night as well, to this international crowd. 15:21 ccurry Or good evening, since that's a more appropriate greeting. 15:24 owen ccurry: I'm curious why your starting point is the item type 15:24 owen Don't you have to start by creating a record? 15:27 ccurry In the acquisitions module of 3.0.5, when receiving a record, I can't pick a framework to use; default is used. I can, however, choose item type. Since these are dummy records, that's the end of the cataloger's work with the record. It's used exclusively to track our serials budget. 15:27 ccurry Does that make sense? 15:29 ccurry brb 15:37 ccurry back 15:38 gmcharlt ccurry: IIRC, 3.2 does let you set the framework for stuff received in ACQ 15:44 ccurry That's good to know. There are lots of reasons to update to 3.2. I can't wait till it's stable. I guess we'll just do it manually until then, unless you can recommend an easy work around. 15:44 kf ok, perhaps someone has an idea: we imported items with umlauts in callnumber and $i (inventory number) 15:44 kf in items those umlauts are ok, but in marcxml they are broken 15:44 kf and display is broken in some places of koha as a result 15:45 kf after edit/save without changes of the item the umlauts are correct 15:45 kf im confused whats happening here and we need to repair this in 2 databases 15:47 kf and its only umlauts in 952, umlauts in other fields in marcxml are ok too 15:49 Colin kf:what's the actual value in the bad fields? 15:50 schuster @notes Schuster 15:50 schuster @notes 15:50 munin schuster: Error: I have no notes for that nick. 15:50 kf not sure how I can see that, what I see is JÃx83;ƒx83;Âx82;ƒx83;Ãx83;‚x82;Âx82;¤ oh, its better here 15:50 munin schuster: I currently have notes waiting for christ, Genji:, gmcharlt:, hdl:, hdl_laptop:, km_kale, kmkale:, LadyNight32, matts, nengard:, nicole, owen:, paul, Schuster:, sekjal:, seneca:, slef:, thd-away, and wizzyrea:. 15:50 gmcharlt @notes Schuster: 15:50 munin gmcharlt: Sent 13 weeks, 1 day, 4 hours, and 22 minutes ago: <chris_n`> yeah, it needs to make it into the INSTALL.* files 15:50 nengard @notes nengard 15:50 munin nengard: Error: I have no notes for that nick. 15:50 kf should be NeyJä 15:50 nengard @notes nengard: 15:50 munin nengard: Sent 12 weeks, 2 days, 15 hours, and 21 minutes ago: <chris_n> I submitted a patch for the docbook documentation correcting some invalid markup 15:50 gmcharlt @notes negard: 15:50 munin gmcharlt: Error: I have no notes for that nick. 15:51 gmcharlt @notes nengard: 15:51 munin gmcharlt: Sent 12 weeks, 2 days, 15 hours, and 21 minutes ago: <chris_n> I submitted a patch for the docbook documentation correcting some invalid markup 15:51 nengard @notes nicole 15:51 munin nengard: Sent 3 days, 4 hours, and 35 minutes ago: <chris_n> I sent along a security tip you might like to publish in the next newsletter 15:51 nengard chris_n already thanked you for that via email :) 15:51 kf Colin: any idea? 15:52 chris_n nengard: received; that's an oldie note 15:52 nengard yup :) 15:52 nengard so - i've really screwed something up on my install ... i was trying to revert an old patch of mine that wasn't accepted because someone else got to it first :) and i'm having all kinds of merge issues - can I just pull down 1 file from the current repo and have it overwrite my screwy one? 15:52 * chris_n is apparently guilty of most of the old notes due to the mistaken use of ':' :-) 15:53 nengard hehe 15:53 kf I can try some import tests tomorrow, but its really strange 15:53 owen I wonder if you can ask munin to forget a note? 15:55 kf ok, will start to rain any minute, have to hurry up to get home - if somebody has an idea - I will read back later! 15:55 Colin kf: not at the moment stay drt 15:56 Colin that's dry 15:56 gmcharlt owen: you can work around it by temporarily changing your nick 15:56 gmcharlt e.g., 15:56 gmcharlt hmm, 15:56 gmcharlt no actually, you can't 15:56 gmcharlt ':' isn't valid in a nick 15:56 owen :) I tried that too 15:57 gmcharlt well, I'll purge the dead notes RSN 15:57 * owen wonders what message christ has waiting for him upon His return 15:57 * owen thinks probably a lot of programmers cursing about stuff 15:58 nengard LOL 15:58 nengard owen replied to your email 15:59 gmcharlt well, since I'm curious 15:59 gmcharlt @notes christ 15:59 munin gmcharlt: Sent 36 weeks, 4 days, 23 hours, and 5 minutes ago: <wizzyrea> pst, can I pick your brain about the LIMIT statement you suggested? I'm having some trouble. I''d be ever so grateful. 15:59 owen christ has the best sql-fu around. 16:00 owen "SELECT * FROM `humans` WHERE..." ... and then you get all the messy morality stuff. 16:03 brendan SELECT wine FROM water 16:05 owen SELECT `stone_thrower` FROM `crowd` WHERE `sin` IS NULL 16:05 Colin == 0 surely NULL is morally vague 16:07 owen Sounds like a job for a treatise 16:07 Colin plus God would have to face the wrath of CJ Date 16:12 wizzyrea blasted topys 16:12 wizzyrea irony. I has it. 16:12 wizzyrea typos* 16:13 wizzyrea oh, is he a waldo person? 16:14 jdavidb oooooo 16:15 wizzyrea ... 16:15 wizzyrea god is a waldo person, I'm funny. 16:16 jdavidb Hell hath no fury like a waldo person... 16:18 brendan ah waldo they've been quiet (well except ben) 16:19 jdavidb For the modern age, I think that whole thing about "Hell hath no fury" needs revision: "Hell hath no fury lke an ex-wife with more money than good sense..." 16:21 owen nengard: I haven't gotten an email from you 16:21 nengard hmmm 16:21 nengard says it was sent in reply 49 min ago 16:21 nengard but here is it: 16:21 nengard Okay so apparently you put patron_attr_2 (or whatever number the 16:21 nengard attribute is) in the BorrowerMandatoryField pref to make it required. 16:21 nengard Not sure how you keep track of which attribute is which number - but 16:21 nengard that's how you make it required. 16:22 owen Wild. How did you figure that out?! 16:23 brendan :) 16:24 nengard yeah - it was brendan - not me :) 16:27 cait back 16:27 cait not dry, but at home now :) 16:28 cait @wunder Konstanz 16:28 munin cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Germany is 12.1�C (6:29 PM CEST on May 11, 2010). Conditions: Thunderstorms and Rain. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.61 in 1002.6 hPa (Rising). 16:28 brendan @wunder 93117 16:28 munin brendan: The current temperature in ASOS_HFM SANTA BARBARA, CA, Santa Barbara, California is 13.9�C (9:05 AM PDT on May 11, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018.2 hPa (Rising). Wind Advisory in effect until 3 am PDT Wednesday... 16:28 brendan hi cait 16:28 cait hi brendan 16:28 cait thunderstorms and rain - munin++ 16:29 * jdavidb waves, and hands cait a towel 16:30 cait thanks :) 16:30 cait still thinking about weird umlauts in callnumbers... hmpf. 16:31 * owen wonders if nengard's documentation for required patron attributes will include instructions for installing Firebug 16:31 cait :) 16:32 brendan owen++ 16:33 owen Heh... "The following fields are mandatory: patron_attr_1" 16:33 nengard :) 16:33 owen Not sure this feature is ready for prime time :P 16:34 nengard jwagner around? 16:41 jwagner here (when not off working on another screen) 16:42 nengard hi jwagner 16:42 nengard had questions but i put them in the bug 3093 report 16:42 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3093 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, sedwards@alloycomputing.com, RESOLVED FIXED, Enhance placing of holds in staff interface 16:44 nengard now that i retest though - it looks like it does work in the opac & staff client 16:44 jwagner Hmmm. The feature should work in both staff and OPAC. I wasn't worried too much about the lists & cart, although it should probably be extended to them. 16:44 jwagner Primary concern was getting it off the search results page. 16:44 owen I don't see how the cart and lists are any different 16:44 owen Same issue, isn't it? 16:44 owen Multiple holds overriding hold limits? 16:45 jwagner Yes, it should be extended. This was a quick get-it-out-of-there! fix, though. 16:47 nengard if we're talking about extending it -then it should be 2 prefs - one for OPAC & one for Staff 16:48 jwagner It may or may not be necessary in the future with the more defined circ rules. 16:49 jwagner Haven't done enough testing yet in 3.2 to know if multiple holds are handled better there. 16:50 owen Nope :( 16:50 * jwagner just realized why my blood sugar feels so low -- going to get some lunch 16:50 nengard jwagner - i'm with you -- be back soon 17:27 brendan wb lunchers 17:31 jwagner Where's the dessert? 17:31 cait chocolate cookies? 17:31 brendan bugs for dessert served in this channel 17:31 jwagner brendan, that doesn't sound very ... tasty! 17:31 brendan :) 17:32 * chris_n hears that deep fried termites are tasty 17:32 * cait hides her chocolate cookies from brendan and chris_n 17:37 chris_n hmm... chocolate covered ants maybe? 17:37 cait dont do that to chocolate 17:37 jwagner Suddenly I'm losing my appetite. Maybe I'd better go get a cookie. 17:38 * cait offers jwagner one of the hidden chocolate cookies 17:40 jwagner Mmmmmmmmmm 17:40 cait just dont combine with any insects 17:41 jwagner or share with people who bug me? 17:43 cait hm, sometimes this might include me 17:43 nengard no more talk of eating bugs!! 17:44 cait :) 17:44 nengard my dessert is sugar free jello 17:45 * jdavidb likes jello a lot. Has to be careful not to eat too much, or he wiggles n jiggles. 17:45 nengard LOL 17:45 nengard the idea behind sugar free jello is to stop the wiggling and jiggling :) 17:45 nengard at least for me it is :) 17:47 cait is it tasty? 18:00 * owen goes back to chewing on bug 4418 18:00 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4418 normal, P5, ---, oleonard@myacpl.org, NEW, required patron attributes not red 18:00 owen Mmmmm... perplexing. 18:02 chris_n the chewy ones always seem to be that way ;-) 18:03 owen nengard: Your email finally made it through (lunchtime traffic delays?) 18:03 nengard not sure 18:04 nengard hey anyone know what template file prints out the 'no result found' message on the opac search? 18:04 nengard it's not opac-results 18:04 owen I was just looking at that yesterday: masthead.inc 18:05 * owen had to go looking for it himself 18:05 nengard thank you! 18:16 jwagner Speaking of that "no result found" -- I had a request from a library to modify that to take off the library name. (i.e., not "No Result Found in Library Name" just "No Result Found") 18:16 jwagner Is that something anyone else would be interested in? 18:16 jwagner Sorry, not to remove permanently, but to wrap a div around it so it could be jquery'd? 18:17 jwagner I couldn't see a way to do it as-is. 18:17 owen jwagner: A change like that doesn't cause anyone any harm, so why not? 18:17 cait I did something to the German message, no fun 18:18 cait the library said they dont want the query, because its confusing for people to see things like title,phr 18:19 owen Yeah, seeing "ti,wrdl" is just nonsensical 18:21 chris i agree 18:22 chris gmcharlt will fix it with the rewrite of C4::Search im sure, being able to hide it until then would be sweet 18:22 * chris hides from gmcharlt 18:22 * jwagner thinks chris is living dangerously :-) 18:22 cait removed the query and replaced it with 'your search terms' so that it makes a whole sentence in German :) 18:22 cait jquery++ 18:22 jwagner OK, if I have a chance I might do a patch. Or I might not.... 18:23 jwagner Got another meeting, back later. chris & gmcharlt, it doesn't look like I'm going to get to the bugzilla stuff today. Tomorrow, probably. 18:25 tjl Does anyone have troubleshooting steps for when a new install hangs at 'sudo make install' and reports nothing to the screen? All the tests passed. All prereqs installed. Koha user and group created. 18:26 * gmcharlt goes after chris 18:26 gmcharlt ;) 18:29 nengard why would i get this error: 18:29 nengard ERROR 1062 (23000): Duplicate entry 'OPACNoResultsFound' for key 1 18:29 jdavidb looks like you tried to install the same syspref twice. 18:29 nengard but i didn't :) 18:29 nengard it's not there i did a select 18:30 jdavidb o.O 18:30 nengard that was the first thing i checked 18:30 nengard i read on a forum that the index may need a repair 18:30 chris tjl: hmm nope, havent seen that happen before 18:30 nengard but i don't know how to do that 18:30 chris tjl: does top tell you anything? 18:30 nengard brendan says it went through A-OK on his install 18:32 jdavidb The mysqlcheck command line utility can look for problems, might give that a swing. 18:32 tjl chis: top says a perl process is running that is taking up anywhere from 30 - 60% of CPU. 18:34 chris well i guess its doing something then ... who knows what... weird 18:34 tjl chris: after 'sudo make install' this is reported to the screen but nothing further. '/usr/bin/perl "-Iblib/arch" "-Iblib/lib" fix-perl-path.PL blib' 18:36 nengard anyone else know how i can reset my db? 18:36 nengard repair and mysqlcheck don't work on it 18:37 chris tjl: how long has it been running now? 18:38 chris nengard: select variable from systempreferences where variable like 'OPACNo%'; 18:38 chris just to be certain 18:38 nengard chris - did taht 18:38 nengard that 18:38 tjl chris: this time around 5 minutes. i've let it run longer. 18:38 nengard before i asked for help :) that I know how to do :) 18:39 chris right, heres what i would do 18:40 chris mysqldump -uuser -p koha systempreferences > sysprefs.sql 18:40 chris mysql -uuser -p koha < sysprefs.sql 18:40 chris that should drop and recreate the table, and hopefully fix whatever is up with it 18:40 chris if that doesnt work 18:41 chris you can mysqldump the whole of koha 18:41 chris mysqladmin -uroot -p drop koha 18:41 chris mysqladmin -uroot -p create koha 18:41 chris and then reload it 18:42 chris tjl: what version? 18:42 nengard chris - how am i reloading it? 18:42 chris the sysprefs one? 18:42 chris or the whole db? 18:42 chris mysql -uuser -p koha < sysprefs.sql 18:42 chris or 18:42 tjl chris: 3.0.5 on Ubuntu 9.04. 18:43 nengard got it - and just the sys prefs is what i need 18:43 chris mysql -uuser -p koha < whatever-you-called-it 18:43 chris tjl: i will try to recreate when i get to work, but its certainly nothing i have run into befor 18:44 chris anyone else? 18:45 brendan hi chris 18:45 nengard thanks chris 18:45 nengard worked, but my feature didn't work :) so off to edit the code :) 19:37 cait good night #koha 19:39 hdl_laptop time to go to bed. 19:39 hdl_laptop good night folks 19:39 wizzyrea gnite hdl_laptop 20:05 DRUlm Hi all, what is the news. 20:06 owen DRUlm: This: http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz/2010/05/11/code-hits-the-wild/ 20:14 DRUlm Wow! 20:15 wizzyrea :D I kno rite? 20:15 wizzyrea pretty sweet 20:15 wizzyrea some really good features 20:15 wizzyrea all open, too. I like that. 20:16 owen I'm sure schuster's happy that there is now a foreseeable upgrade path for his library 20:16 wizzyrea yea, def 20:17 wizzyrea it's a nice intermediate step between where we are (omg old and broken) and 3.2 20:17 wizzyrea though there's a ton of improvements in 3.2 that this doesn't have 20:20 DRUlm Its all good. 20:22 owen 3.0 <- old and busted | new hotness -> 3.2 20:22 DRUlm Cool! 20:22 DRUlm Yeah, 3.2 is looking good. 20:48 chris heya reed 20:48 richard hi 20:49 chris heya richard 20:49 richard hi chris 21:04 chris heya kansas ... and genji 21:06 schuster schuster - says I always had an upgrade path... Community... 21:07 chris you still do 21:07 chris :) 21:07 chris but now commnity will contain features that you sponsored 21:07 chris http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz/2010/05/12/some-libraries-to-thank/ 21:08 chris and i prefer to call it mainstream or mainline .. or just koha 21:08 chris community is the marketing LL used to denigrate it 21:08 wizzyrea I think most marketing people should be fired. 21:08 * wizzyrea harrumphs 21:09 mason liz++ 21:10 schuster that was the intent all along... community was already going to have most of my code as Galen made sure most of it moved before he left...++ 21:10 schuster See ya! Baseball practice with 9 year olds tonight! 21:26 wizzyrea oh hi mason :) 21:32 reed "community version" is almost always used to indicate the hobbled open source version of a commercial product -- mysource matrix and mysql come to mind 21:33 reed normally missing some key feature you need to make it work 21:33 chris yeah, lets call it mainstream 21:33 reed so, yeah, would love it if we can sort the language out better 21:33 chris or official 21:33 reed or koha 21:34 chris yeah :) 21:54 mason it's quite cute that the 'koha-community' phrase was originally created to indicate something inferior