Time Nick Message 21:50 * chris_n grabs another glass of lemonade 21:50 munin chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 30.5�C (5:46 PM EDT on May 01, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 13%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1000.9 hPa (Falling). 21:50 chris_n @wunder 28334 19:39 munin brendan: The current temperature in ASOS_HFM SANTA BARBARA, CA, Santa Barbara, California is 22.2�C (12:20 PM PDT on May 01, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013.4 hPa (Falling). 19:39 brendan @wunder 93117 19:39 brendan afternoon all 19:22 chris 4405 works for me, i like that you fixed all my typos 19:19 munin indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 30.0�C (12:20 AM IST on May 02, 2010). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 26.0�C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Falling). 19:19 indradg @wunder kolkata 18:40 bgkriegel ok 18:40 gmcharlt bgkriegel: yep, 4405 18:39 bgkriegel gmcharlt: 4505 does not exist. Is 4405? 16:53 gmcharlt solicited, even 16:53 gmcharlt comments on patch series I submited for 4036, 4505, and 4429 solicated 14:39 chris_n any suggestion on an inexpensive printer for use on a circ desk with Koha? 14:33 gmcharlt hi chris_n 14:33 chris_n hi gmcharlt 14:30 gmcharlt anybody about who can translate a syspref to French for me? 14:07 * braedon|home gives up and goes to bed - hopefully it will be done in the morning 14:02 braedon|home uploading mediawiki unzipped - 1500 files over ftp later... 14:01 wizzyrea_laptop :/ yea 14:00 braedon|home /sigh - not having ssh access to your web hosting is very frustraiting 13:16 wizzyrea_laptop super dee duper 13:14 gmcharlt wizzyrea_laptop: yep, I'm putting release notes together this weekend for alpha2, but will be throwing them up on a wiki somewhere as well 13:06 wizzyrea_laptop an accurate one 13:05 wizzyrea_laptop guess it's time to do a feature list for.3.2 12:58 slef I took a look at RDA. Wondered if it was flawed or if I was flawed. Left it for later. 12:42 gmcharlt exactly 12:38 mason ... it sounds like a grand-unifying theory, that isnt quite finished? 12:37 mason ive had someone show me some doco from a nz-rda workshop... 12:37 gmcharlt mason: I only wish I could take credit ;) 12:36 mason gmcharlt: i liked your fake-rda post last nite 12:33 gmcharlt let's make a deal - I won't try to dictate how you guys use UNIMARC, and you won't dictate how MARC21 is used, or blatantly choose to ignore it standards 12:19 hdl_laptop congrats nah 12:19 nahuel and thanks 12:19 nahuel were leaving 12:19 nahuel see you 12:19 nahuel :) 12:19 nahuel it works how we want 12:19 nahuel don't care 12:16 gmcharlt in MARC21 authorities? no, that's not what's it's for 12:01 nahuel just linking a thesaurus to the 260$a 12:01 nahuel well I found how to do it 11:47 kmkale munin++ 11:43 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3429 major, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Searching fails for MARC21 authorities with ERROR 114 in zebrasrv log 11:43 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=900 enhancement, P2, ---, antoine@koha-fr.org, NEW, Unimarc Authorities 11:43 slef bug 900 and bug 3429 are related... actually tons of authorities bugs :-( 11:41 slef if there is, it's not in my notes I have here :-/ 11:40 slef let me see if I can find a kohabug for it 11:40 gmcharlt not a big deal, just saying that it would need to be accounted for 11:39 gmcharlt slef: yep 11:39 slef or did I dream that? 11:39 hdl_laptop slef: just kidding 11:39 gmcharlt hdl_laptop: no lockin, and to *share* authority records :) 11:39 slef gmcharlt: don't we already have some tag stripping? 11:39 gmcharlt but there would need to be an option to strip out them out during export 11:39 slef hdl_laptop: no lock-in, ok? 11:39 hdl_laptop slef: who would like to get out from Koha ;) 11:39 gmcharlt *tacking on, that is 11:39 gmcharlt taking on $9 in MARC21 auths wouldn't be a problem 11:39 slef yeah, $9 and more :-/ 11:38 slef won't export from koha well, though 11:38 hdl_laptop But using $9 could be ok imho 11:38 slef gmcharlt: it's been a while, but I think an emulation is possible 11:38 hdl_laptop So respecting strictly the norm would be a nightmare. 11:38 nahuel :) 11:38 nahuel well... 11:38 nahuel gmcharlt, in unimarc too :) 11:38 nahuel héhé 11:38 hdl_laptop MARC21 is not using authids but headings. 11:38 gmcharlt it's not a Koha problem so much as a MARC21 problem 11:37 gmcharlt nahuel: that kind of semantic is not really expressable in MARC21 11:37 slef nahuel: marc21 linking support in Koha is waaay behind unimarc 11:37 slef nahuel: this is on my TODO 11:37 chris_n I have not tried putting Koha on yet though 11:37 slef aha 11:37 nahuel gmcharlt, ? 11:36 hdl_laptop good 11:36 hdl_laptop hi chris_n 11:36 chris_n and g'morning #koha 11:35 chris_n and I installed the server version on a new box and that went fine too 11:35 chris_n hdl_laptop: I did a distro upgrade to lucid this week on my desktop and it went fine 11:35 nahuel like between personnal name and corp. name 11:34 gmcharlt between broader and narrower terms, e.g.? 11:34 nahuel I need between auth and auth 11:33 gmcharlt there is no conception of linking between authorities themselves 11:33 nahuel no 11:33 gmcharlt for links between bib headings and authorities 11:33 gmcharlt nahuel: $9 works 11:29 nahuel :) 11:29 nahuel hdl_laptop, 11:27 nahuel don't know 11:27 nahuel perhaps i'm wrong... 11:26 nahuel in default auth fwk we cannot find any $9 11:26 nahuel how can we do to do links between authorities ? 11:26 nahuel gmcharlt, ? 11:26 nahuel someone that knows koha and marc21 ? :) 11:26 nahuel heya 10:51 chris going into winter 10:51 chris its autumn 10:49 indradg_ or? 10:49 indradg_ chris, so technically it is late winter / early spring now? 10:47 chris indradg_: starts around october, ends in march 09:25 munin kmkale: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 33.0�C (2:10 PM IST on May 01, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 25.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Falling). 09:25 kmkale @weather Mumbai 08:36 kmkale_laptop when I try to upgrade from ubuntu 9.10 I get an error could not download release notes. :( 08:18 indradg_ chris, (probably) dumb and OT question when is it summer in NZ? 08:00 chris yep, they should all just work 07:54 braedon|home i may have another go at building ubuntu packages for the dependencies, since this is a LTS and someone may actually care :P. And i may be able to simply port some of lars' debian packages over, which would simplify things a lot 07:52 braedon|home downloading server version now - will have a go with 3.2 07:51 chris braedon|home: i havent yet 06:37 braedon|home ubuntu 10.04* 06:37 braedon|home anyone tried koha on 10.04 yet? 06:02 munin kmkale: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 34.0�C (11:10 AM IST on May 01, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 25.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Falling). 06:02 kmkale @weather Mumbai 04:34 * chris wanders off 04:32 chris but i thnk its worth investigating 04:32 chris it needs to be tidied up, and better error handling 04:31 brendan night chris_n 04:31 brendan yeah going to play with it 04:31 chris night chris_n 04:31 chris_n g'night all 04:31 chris script is a simple as that 04:31 chris http://git.workbuffer.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a2fbfb5e70d6947578eb96822e45acd3f8c27a50 04:31 chris nginx + a FCGI::Async script 04:31 reed you know how much i adore nginx 04:30 reed sweet 04:30 chris yep 04:30 reed chris, thinking of using it in place of apache for koha? 04:30 chris ok time to cook some dinner 04:30 chris yep we use that at work too 04:28 chris_n nginx supports memcached 04:28 chris ok thats enough playing with that for now 04:28 chris nginx++ 04:17 brendan errr.. njinx 04:17 brendan jinx 04:17 brendan http://wiki.ngins.org 04:17 chris best place 04:17 chris http://wiki.nginx.org/Main 04:16 chris yep 04:16 chris_n is this it: http://nginx.org/ 04:15 chris FCGI::Async was the missing piece, i knew nginx is fast we use it at work 04:15 chris_n hehe 04:14 brendan reading about nginx now 04:14 brendan true :) 04:13 chris i need laurel to take the kids to gallery openings more often ... its quite productive :) 04:10 chris through even 04:10 chris so 216 throw .. so the sweet spot is around there 04:10 chris H/F/S Req:0,1xx:0,2xx:0,3xx:0,4xx:0,5xx:0,Err:0,T-Err:0,D:0ms,D-2xx:0ms,Ti:0B/s,To:0B/s 04:10 chris yep 04:10 brendan is this only the opac side ? 04:10 chris H/F Req:217,1xx:0,2xx:216,3xx:0,4xx:0,5xx:1,Err:0,T-Err:0,D:24894ms,D-2xx:24690ms,Ti:18143B/s,To:478B/s 04:10 chris Test total duration was 83 seconds and CAPS average 3: 04:08 chris now 4 04:06 chris H/F/S Req:0,1xx:0,2xx:0,3xx:0,4xx:0,5xx:0,Err:0,T-Err:0,D:0ms,D-2xx:0ms,Ti:0B/s,To:0B/s 04:06 chris H/F Req:167,1xx:0,2xx:167,3xx:0,4xx:0,5xx:0,Err:0,T-Err:0,D:24456ms,D-2xx:24456ms,Ti:15384B/s,To:391B/s 04:06 chris Test total duration was 75 seconds and CAPS average 3: 04:04 chris_n this looks sweet 04:03 * chris will try 3 04:03 chris 92 secs, got all 159 through 04:02 chris H/F/S Req:0,1xx:0,2xx:0,3xx:0,4xx:0,5xx:0,Err:0,T-Err:0,D:0ms,D-2xx:0ms,Ti:0B/s,To:0B/s 04:02 chris H/F Req:159,1xx:0,2xx:159,3xx:0,4xx:0,5xx:0,Err:0,T-Err:0,D:25431ms,D-2xx:25431ms,Ti:12037B/s,To:301B/s 04:02 chris Test total duration was 92 seconds and CAPS average 2: 04:02 chris 2 backends, 1 nginx 04:02 chris same test 04:00 chris curl-loader 03:59 mason hay, wots the http-profiler called? 03:59 chris yeah 500's probably scripts dying 03:58 mason 5xx:75 ? 03:58 chris and then see how we go 03:58 chris ill get another 2 backend fastcgi running 03:58 mason ok 03:58 chris yeah 200's 03:58 mason so, http 2xx are successes? 03:57 chris gimme 5 mins 03:57 chris i only have one backend running 03:57 chris and 03:57 chris but nginx and FCGI::Async coped a lot better 03:57 mason even more telling... 03:57 mason aaaaah 03:57 chris which is pretty high 03:57 mason ah, click.. 03:57 chris i was requesting 100 at a time 03:56 chris so apache only served up 11 pages successfully 03:56 chris on 11 were 200 tho mason 03:56 mason nginx: 206 in 142 secs 03:56 chris 111 requests 03:56 chris looking at my results? 03:55 mason apache: 111 hits in 259 secs 03:55 chris_n very nice 03:55 brendan and you've got m$ books in your catalog too ;) 03:55 brendan oh nice 03:55 chris so yeah this deserves more investigation i think 03:54 chris but still got 123 requests through 03:54 jdavidb I'm gonna head to bed. y'all have a great weekend. 03:54 mason thats a big difference 03:54 chris got some 500's 03:54 chris H/F/S Req:0,1xx:0,2xx:0,3xx:0,4xx:0,5xx:0,Err:0,T-Err:0,D:0ms,D-2xx:0ms,Ti:0B/s,To:0B/s 03:54 chris H/F Req:159,1xx:0,2xx:123,3xx:0,4xx:0,5xx:36,Err:0,T-Err:0,D:34403ms,D-2xx:25939ms,Ti:8025B/s,To:231B/s 03:54 chris Test total duration was 112 seconds and CAPS average 2: 03:53 mason heya 03:53 chris it maxed out as 03:53 chris .61 03:53 chris finished 03:52 chris apache2 was swapping by now 03:52 chris .46 03:51 chris 0.27, 29.73, 41.26 03:51 chris hehe its running now 03:50 chris im gonna run 100 concurrent requests against it 03:50 chris ok, .92 03:50 chris cool 03:49 chris_n quite snappy from here now chris 03:47 chris waiting for the load to drop and will try nginx again 03:47 chris ill take that as a win 03:46 chris i got 131 from nginx 03:46 chris in 142 seconds 03:46 chris so in 252 seconds i got 11 200s from apache2 03:45 chris_n 504 error now 03:45 chris it may not recover 03:45 chris_n wow, thomas the tank engine.. .the kiddies would love your library :) 03:45 brendan :) 03:45 chris 108.67 03:45 chris swapping hard 03:45 chris 3 gig gone 03:45 chris right ive topped out the ram 03:45 brendan Available: Chris Office 03:45 chris heh 03:45 brendan love this title --> this title has a < and " and a & in it 03:45 chris yeah cos im poundng the apache2 03:45 brendan slowed way down - 03:45 chris still will be interesting to compare against the nginx set up 03:43 chris_n hehe 03:43 chris i suspect i put a bit too much load on 03:43 * chris_n is on about a 35k foot loop 03:43 chris 74.68 03:41 chris_n probably my last mile link 03:41 wizzyrea_laptop !! 03:40 chris 49.93 03:39 chris yikes 03:39 chris got the load up to 31 already 03:38 chris k, profilng the old set up 03:37 jdavidb Very quick for me. 03:35 * wizzyrea_laptop noticed that too, but ditto on the link 03:33 chris_n here even 03:33 chris_n but that may be due to a poor quality link hree 03:33 chris_n bit slow from my neck of the woods 03:32 brendan wow that's way faster than the opac.demo.catalyst 03:31 chris umm 3 metres away from me in my house 03:31 chris (running load test) 03:31 brendan what's the location of the server 03:31 chris i may just have blown it up 03:30 chris_n very nice 03:30 brendan really snappy here 03:30 chris http://git.workbuffer.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a2fbfb5e70d6947578eb96822e45acd3f8c27a50 03:30 chris nginx + this 03:30 brendan nice chris 03:28 wizzyrea_laptop hm, i haven't ever noticed that, but mine's a macbook that vents out the back 03:28 chris no apache involved at all 03:28 chris http://opac.koha.workbuffer.org:82/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=&q=fish 03:27 * chris_n finds that running laptops on the bedtop tends to dramatically shorten the life of the battery 03:27 brendan hiya 03:27 chris_n hey brendan 03:26 brendan yup not allowed to bring my laptop to bed either 03:24 jdavidb I couldn't take my lappy to bed. the wahrless doesn't like our metal-stud walls, and my work lappy is a 9-pound road warrior. Don't want it anywhere near my lap. 03:16 wizzyrea_laptop so I"m free to laptop anyplace I like ^.^ 03:16 chris_n yup, kids do change things 03:16 wizzyrea_laptop s/or/for 03:15 wizzyrea_laptop the hubs plays bass in a band, he's got a gig tonight. I'd go except no sitter or el bebeh. 03:15 wizzyrea_laptop hehe 03:15 chris_n my wife would probably have both it and me on the floor :) 03:14 * wizzyrea_laptop 's laptop has a mind of its own 03:14 chris_n lol 03:14 wizzyrea_laptop by your laptop? or your wife? 03:14 chris_n if I took my laptop toward the bed, I'd probably get pushed out... ;-) 03:13 chris_n hehe 03:13 wizzyrea_laptop because it's comfy and warm 03:13 wizzyrea_laptop wizzyrea_types_inbed 03:13 wizzyrea_laptop or more accurately... 03:12 wizzyrea_laptop yep :) 03:12 * chris_n wonders if wizzyrea_laptop == wizzyrea_home? 03:12 jdavidb hi, wizzy. :) 03:12 wizzyrea_laptop sup jdavidb 03:01 jdavidb howdy, chris_n 03:01 chris_n heya jdavib, chris 03:00 * chris is experimenting with FCGI::Async and nginx 03:00 jdavidb hi, chris. 03:00 chris hi jdavidb 02:28 wizzyrea_laptop I'm guessing it's not really possible. 02:28 wizzyrea_laptop re: the fight, it depends on if mac can fashion a god foot from paperclips, chewing gum, and duct tape. 02:07 mason ahh, its actually linda blair, not vicki :/ 02:05 mason this one's got RDA kissing Vicki in the final frame, priceless... 02:04 mason http://rdanderson.com/photos/love/love.htm 02:04 mason and a last one.... 02:03 mason http://www.chucknorris.com/html/kids.aspx?id=1045 01:59 mason "Chuck Norris can kick through all 6 degrees of separation, hitting anyone, anywhere, in the face, at any time." 01:58 mason hay, i wonder if chuck norris has a similar fan-site... 01:57 mason its good to see the RDA fandom depicted in 'the simpsons' exists in real life! 01:55 brendan who would win in a fight MacGyver or Chcuk Norris 01:55 mason a fav. fotos page.... 01:55 mason http://rdanderson.com/phpBB/viewforum.php?f=6 01:55 brendan that's fabulous 01:54 mason and a forum too... http://rdanderson.com/phpBB/index.php 01:54 * richard scrubs up pretty well for the photos 01:54 mason http://rdanderson.com 01:54 mason heh, looks at this... 01:52 brendan lucky streak is on 01:52 munin brendan: *click* 01:52 brendan @roulette 01:49 richard pretty close tho, eh chris :) 01:49 chris yep :) 01:48 wizzyrea_laptop at least you didn't type in your password 01:48 chris doh, wrong window 01:47 chris w 01:45 wizzyrea_laptop j/k 01:43 wizzyrea_laptop i.e. should we be concerned about you? 01:43 wizzyrea_laptop lol 01:43 wizzyrea_laptop omg, dude, do you really want to die? 01:40 munin brendan: *click* 01:40 brendan @roulette 00:41 reed heh 00:40 chris ohh, that looks like a great coffee discussion topic on monday :) 00:38 chris looking now 00:32 reed chris, you there? check yer mail 00:10 slef you too 00:10 slef ta 00:05 brendan enjoy the weekend 00:05 brendan cya #koha