Time Nick Message 00:10 Scott ironic thats its as quiet as a library in this channel... 00:11 chris only us southern hemispherites left 00:11 chris the busy time is our night 01:00 * chris_n looks in 01:22 Scott i see... 02:56 chris my fingers twitch everytime i see this page 02:56 chris http://koha-community.org/koha-project-organization/ 02:56 chris just itching to change the z to an s :0 02:57 brendan heh 02:57 brendan go for it 02:57 chris url is out there now, so too late 02:57 chris :) 03:00 chris oh brendan i tried to set up the en_usspecial language 03:00 chris but pootle thwarted me 03:18 Amit_G heya brendan, chris 03:18 brendan heya amit_g 03:19 chris heya Amit_G 04:23 richard anyone know how valid is this for getting chinese / korean / japanese in search results - http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=encodingscratchpad 04:23 richard in 3.0.6 04:24 chris i think that is old an out of date 04:24 richard ah, thought so 04:24 chris its all to do with zebra icu stuff now 04:25 chris anthony mao has got it all working 04:25 richard just got a query from a person who reckons that their chinese titles aren't appearing in search results but english ones are 04:25 chris lemme see if i can find it 04:25 richard cool 04:27 chris id point them at 04:27 chris http://groups.google.com/group/kohataiwan?pli=1 04:28 richard thanks chris 04:30 richard guess the same things will apply for their Japanese and Korean titles too eh 04:30 chris reckon so 05:20 Amit_G heya nicomo 05:20 nicomo hi Amit_G 05:25 brendan night all 05:46 Ropuch^_ Morning #koha 05:48 Amit_G heya Ropuch 06:27 greenmang0 @wunder mumbai 06:27 munin greenmang0: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 33.0�C (11:10 AM IST on April 27, 2010). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 26.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). 07:13 kf good morning #koha 07:43 chris morning 08:05 Ropuch^_ Hi kf, chris 08:07 chris hiya Ropuch^_ 08:07 chris lnts 08:07 chris ltns even 08:12 Ropuch^_ heh 08:15 Ropuch^_ CSNE is organizing Congress of Germanologist and I'm doing everything but library related stuff 08:20 chris ahhh 08:25 Ropuch^_ If only i had not so much to do at the Library, I would call those activities quite refreshing instead of 'waste of time I don't have' ;> 09:50 Amit_G heya genji 10:10 CGI416 Any Amazon images gurus hanging about in here!? I'm having some trouble 11:12 chris_n @wunder 28334 11:12 munin chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 13.6�C (7:10 AM EDT on April 27, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Pressure: 29.12 in 986.0 hPa (Rising). 11:24 jdavidb Hello, #koha! :) 11:35 chris hi jdavidb 11:42 kf hi jdavidb and chris 11:42 kf chris: do you ever sleep? :) 11:42 jdavidb Hi, chris and kf. :D 11:43 chris every now and then kf :) 11:43 chris actually i get 7 or so hours in most nights 11:43 kf :) 11:44 kf I whish I would 11:50 gmcharlt good morning 11:51 chris_n morning #koha 11:52 jwagner Morning, all 12:18 owen Hello all 12:24 jwagner morning, owen 12:36 hilongo Hello owen, jwagner and all :) 12:37 hilongo I have just woke up and smell the coffee :P 13:15 jwagner owen, still online? 13:15 owen All day! 13:16 jwagner I just tried an updated head server with your patch and a Syndetics ID from a different server -- still no syndetics content at all. 13:17 owen Hmmm.. Okay. I'm hoping it's a problem with my template logic 13:17 jwagner I was a little dubious about whether the first ID was still valid, but I doublechecked this one. Works fine on its "real" server, no content at all on the head one. 13:17 owen jwagner: I'll try to work on this later today and send you an updated version of the file if you're willing to do more testing 13:18 jwagner If jdavidb can apply the patch to our test server. I confess to ignorance in that area.... 13:18 * chris_n finds the less his ignorance, the longer his to-do list :) 13:18 owen jwagner: I could send you the whole file if that was easier 13:18 * jwagner thinks that's why I've been resisting learning it :-) 13:19 jdavidb I can apply the patch, yes, where-ever it's needed. 13:19 jwagner owen, the whole template file? 13:19 owen jwagner: Yes, if the impediment is patch-application but you have access to the test server 13:19 jwagner If you send me the whole file, I can set it up as a branch & then copy the file over -- wouldn't need him & he's busy.1 13:19 jwagner That's probably easier. 13:22 jwagner I'll be in & out of meetings all day, but will try to squeeze it in. 13:34 schuster Hello all... 13:35 owen Hi schuster 13:35 owen jwagner: Do you get "No cover image available" ? 13:36 jdavidb schuster++ 13:38 jwagner owen, no -- no indication that any content is in place at all. 13:38 jwagner Same as if syndetics etc. was turned off 13:39 owen jwagner: Could there be a broken image there? (I don't know if your browser would tell you) 13:39 owen If you view source and search for "syndetics" can you find an image tag? 13:40 jwagner No. I don't see anything at all in Firebug and searching source for syndetics doesn't find anything. 13:41 owen That's weird. I wouldn't think the change I made would do that... Hm... 13:46 jwagner Dunno if it makes a difference -- I've been checking primarily the results list, but have also gone into the detail page on some. No change. 13:47 owen jwagner: My patch didn't touch the results page 13:47 owen If the results page isn't working you've got a different problem. 13:47 jwagner Well, that might account for it, then. Wonder if the Syndetics ID is IP-limited or something. I copied it from a production server. 13:48 jwagner We haven't had a problem in the past, though, with running Syndetics on test servers. 13:50 jwagner Nope, just tried the same ID on a different test server (not at current head) and it works fine. Syndetics covers, notes, etc. 13:53 owen jwagner: All *I* changed was opac-detail.tmpl. If you don't see Syndetics content on your opac-results page where you normally would, there must be some other issue going on too 13:54 CGI766 Can anyone help with me with an Amazon images problem, I have been battling it for ages 13:55 owen We can try CGI766. What's the problem and what version of Koha are you on? 13:56 CGI766 The problem is that I can't get any enchanced content to work. I am hoping for Amazon but Google is the same - just getting the version for you now 13:56 CGI766 Version 3.0004019 13:57 CGI766 I have the AccessKey, PrivateKey and AssocTag entered correctly and all turned on in Admin 13:58 owen CGI766: Google cover images don't work either? 13:58 CGI766 Correct 13:59 kmkale hi all 13:59 owen Since Google cover images don't require any kind of authentication, I wonder if you have a firewall issue? 13:59 jwagner Have you verified that your records have ISBNs? Both Google & Amazon link on them. 14:00 owen jwagner++ 14:00 CGI766 What sort of traffic is required outbound? Mind you all my clients are allowed full access to to the internet 14:00 CGI766 All records are full, complete MARC records with ISBNs 14:01 owen CGI766: Is your catalog online where we can see an example? 14:01 CGI766 not at the moment, but I could put it up there.....will need to change some firewall rules do to it 14:13 CGI766 OWEN - Site externally now, you can view it here - > http://83.141.96.110:8080 14:14 owen CGI766: Do you have an example record in mind? 14:14 CGI766 Any of them! Try a seach for music 14:15 owen CGI766: http://83.141.96.110:8080/cgi-bin/koha/opac-MARCdetail.pl?biblionumber=178 14:15 owen I see an ISBN, but it's not in the ISBN field 14:15 owen It's in 001 when it should be in 020 14:16 owen If your system maps 020 to biblioitems.isbn then Koha isn't getting any isbn data to use to display book covers 14:17 CGI766 http://172.16.0.44/cgi-bin/koha/opac-MARCdetail.pl?biblionumber=2473 14:17 CGI766 better example 14:17 CGI766 sorry, that;s the internal address 14:18 CGI766 should be http://83.141.96.110:8080/cgi-bin/koha/opac-MARCdetail.pl?biblionumber=2473 14:19 CGI766 This is even better, no text in the 020: http://83.141.96.110:8080/cgi-bin/koha/opac-MARCdetail.pl?biblionumber=2206 14:22 owen CGI766: I notice with that record Amazon itself doesn't have a record with that ISBN 14:23 CGI766 OK, I'll get one that does, I had a load earlier.....2 mins 14:23 owen I also notice that in your OPAC I don't see a "no cover image" box, suggesting to me that Amazon cover images are not turned on 14:24 owen CGI766: As on this page: http://search.myacpl.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=159 14:24 CGI766 I know, thought that was strange too, however I can assure you it's on. The cover image appears when Google gets turned on but not Amazon 14:24 wizzyrea do you have all of your keys inputted properly? 14:24 CGI766 I mean the "no cover image" 14:24 wizzyrea someone probably asked that already 14:24 wizzyrea sometimes something silly like a space at the end can muck it up 14:24 CGI766 Yeah, as far as I can see. Simple copy and paste really 14:25 wizzyrea < had that happen once 14:25 owen CGI766: I'm also curious about why your detail pages have a broken layout. Have you modified the template? 14:25 wizzyrea owen: search.myacpl.org is looking really nice these days :) 14:25 owen Thanks! 14:26 CGI766 Only by using the UsersCSS and MainUserBlock etc, not directly 14:27 wizzyrea yea, the layout does look a little funky :/ 14:28 wizzyrea just for fun, kick out your CSS and see if it's working 14:28 owen I can't image why, in this page, you have 8 holdings tables listing no items 14:28 owen http://83.141.96.110:8080/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=2206 14:29 wizzyrea and good morning 14:29 wizzyrea :) 14:30 schuster owen - I see on http://www.myacpl.org/kids - you have rotating kids covers on the left. Is that a seperate "special" css you created? 14:31 owen schuster: That's built in PHP, completely separate from Koha. It just links to Koha 14:31 schuster ah ok. Drat another PHP attachment. 14:31 wizzyrea I wish there was a plugin system for koha 14:31 wizzyrea a la WP 14:31 wizzyrea so you could shortcode really cool content in. 14:32 owen CGI766: I wonder if you get a similarly weird display when you view that record in your staff client? 14:32 CGI766 I have removed any of the custom CSS changes but the problem remains. Is there anyway to turn on enchanced logging? 14:32 brendan wizzyrea - plugin system - I know that's sekjal's dream to code into koha somewhere somehow 14:33 CGI766 Yes, the record looks the same, a little more detail but seems to have many blank locations 14:33 wizzyrea I would love him forever. 14:34 sekjal awww 14:35 sekjal I have so many dream projects 14:35 sekjal I just need to figure out how to plug a computer into my brain, so I can code them up while I sleep 14:35 * chris_n thinks if we could all finish all of our koha dream projects, the world would not need any other ils :) 14:37 sekjal chris_n: agreed 14:37 owen chris_n: Except for some folks who would insist that it should have been written in Python using Postgres 14:37 wizzyrea *giggle* 14:37 sekjal owen: they could run a modified version of Evergreen, then 14:38 wizzyrea 766, I don't suppose you'd feel comfortable giving any of us a login to look at your prefs? 14:38 wizzyrea (which is fine) 14:38 owen CGI766: Because that record looks so strange and you have weird empty locations, I'm wondering if there was a problem with your biblio load or with your data mapping 14:39 CGI766 Maybe, should I trunc and start again? It is only a test system at the moment? 14:40 owen CGI766: Where are you getting your records? Are you trying to import from another system? 14:40 CGI766 Yes, a Horizon system 14:41 owen CGI766: You might want to start over and try to create a new MARC record from scratch or from a Z39.50 search 14:42 wizzyrea ^^ what he says 14:42 CGI766 OK, will do. Thanks. 15:24 kf bye #koha 15:57 brendan @wunder 93117 15:57 munin brendan: The current temperature in ASOS_HFM SANTA BARBARA, CA, Santa Barbara, California is 12.8�C (8:35 AM PDT on April 27, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Rising). 16:03 schuster @wunder 75074 16:03 munin schuster: The current temperature in Brookview, Plano, Texas is 18.3�C (10:44 AM CDT on April 27, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 30%. Dew Point: 0.0�C. Pressure: 29.41 in 995.8 hPa (Rising). 16:04 brendan heya schuster 16:04 schuster Hey! 16:04 schuster Hope all is going well... 16:05 brendan you too :) 16:20 wizzyrea oh schuster! been a while! 16:20 wizzyrea hi 16:20 wizzyrea :) 16:30 schuster hey wizzyrea... Yes busy with trying to get things ready to close down for the summer. 16:55 cait hi #koha 16:59 jdavidb Hi, cait! :D 17:00 cait hi jdavidb :) 17:00 wajasu my cataloger was replacing a marc record via a z3950 search. it has 45 volumes. Now no searches return anything. shall i do a complete zebra rebuild.pl? 17:02 wajasu i'm going to try to rebuild see if zebra is stoping its indexing because if a bad marc record. 17:07 chris_n wajasu: yes 17:07 chris_n you might also see the FAQ on Searching at www.koha-community.org 17:07 wajasu ok 17:07 chris_n it contains some important suggestions regarding rebuild_zebra.pl 17:20 chris_n brb 17:25 wajasu i ran the rebuild -b -v and zebraidx bailed with an assertion error --> zebraidx: records.c:913: rec_get_int: Assertion `rec->size[i] == 0' failed. 17:29 chris_n wajasu: you might try rebuild_zebra.pl -b -r -v which will drop the indexes and rebuild from scratch 17:29 * chris_n is not sure about that error 17:29 rhcl Here's one old thread on the zebra: 17:29 rhcl http://lists.indexdata.dk/pipermail/zebralist/2004-August/000532.html 17:29 chris_n sanity check: you are running the script as your kohauser 17:30 wajasu as root 17:30 chris_n you should be running as your kohauser 17:31 chris_n ie. su kohauser (or whatever the correct account is) 17:36 wajasu i'm going o have to make sure the dirs that zebra uses belong to a koha group and the koha user as well, to get the crontab to run as koha. 17:36 gmcharlt cute - edit war on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koha_%28software%29 17:36 wajasu the rebuild you had me do ran through. 17:37 wajasu but when i went to opac to search, nothing is found still. 17:37 wajasu i'm, going to run rebuild -b -v now. 17:45 wajasu when i set up my distribution, i had to do httpd setup manually, and user virtual hosts. is there some setup that runs the koha cgi/perl scripts as the koha user? thus the zerba directories need to be readable and/or writeable by koha? 17:48 chris_n wajasu: in all setup variations all things zebra related are owned by the kohauser iirc 17:48 chris_n there are only three variations: development, single directory, and standard 17:54 chris_n interesting... the gnome interface in lucid looks much more mac-ish 17:59 owen lucid? 18:02 chris_n owen: the latest ubuntu beta 18:03 chris_n the thing boots extremely fast 18:09 * jdavidb is thinking of a switch to Ubuntu at home, but has about a half-dozen windows-only things on that machine, that don't seem to like wine much. 18:11 * chris_n runs the complete MS Office 2003 suite under wine: a) to keep it under my thumb ;) and b) to accommodate some users who cannot let go of their M$ security blanket 18:12 * jwagner perks up my ears. Wine? Someone's drinking wine? I could use a slug.... 18:15 jdavidb chris_n: the two games that get most of my cycles on the home machine baldly refuse to run under wine, so I'll probably keep Windows. XP-pro, so it's not too evil. 18:17 owen brendan: I submitted a patch for the Amazon covers issue and updated Bug 3863 18:17 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3863 major, P5, ---, henridamien@koha-fr.org, NEW, Amazon Content Not Working 18:21 brendan owen++ 18:24 jdavidb owen++ 18:24 * owen should be working on statistics but Koha keeps sucking me back in! 18:24 * jdavidb fails to see the problem.. 18:30 chris oh that sux 18:46 chris thats just blatant hostility to the community 18:47 owen chris: ? 18:47 gmcharlt owen: looking at edit history for the wikipedia page about Koha 18:47 chris http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Koha_(software)&action=history 18:48 chris kelly sherman has been changing links to www.koha.org 18:51 chris_n wow, and moving liblime links to the top of the list... 18:52 wizzyrea as competitors to koha 18:52 chris and pointing it to www.koha.org 18:52 wizzyrea which I find funny :) 18:52 chris speaks volumes 18:52 chris liblime -> www.koha.org 18:52 wizzyrea OMG 18:52 wizzyrea koha is a competitor to koha! 18:53 * wizzyrea 's mind blows 18:53 chris ah well, at least true colours are being shown 18:54 * chris_n finds it interesting that today it appears she changed the link back to koha-community.org 18:54 chris that last change? 18:54 chris thats not her 18:54 chris_n http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Koha_%28software%29&diff=next&oldid=358417377 18:54 chris_n ok, I see 18:55 chris that link was broken, so someone fixed it 18:55 chris someone should probably fix all the rest too 18:55 chris preferably the person who broke them 18:55 chris but the chance of ptfs growing some ethics seems slim 18:55 chris_n interesting that all of this appears to have taken place after the email exchange over the weekend 18:56 chris_n I wonder if that is our answer 18:56 chris seems to be 18:56 chris why do it otherwise? 18:56 chris you don't accidentally edit the page 8 times 18:57 * sekjal gets started fixing links 18:58 chris_n this sort of reeks of kados 18:59 chris pretending to be ptfs? 18:59 chris_n no, but motivating 19:00 wizzyrea and I'm sorry, it kind of also reeks of, how to say... ignorance on the part of the editor. 19:00 wizzyrea I mean, she put a LibLime, linking to koha.org, as a *competitor* of koha. 19:00 chris well it is 19:00 chris there is koha 19:00 * chris_n can think of lots of not so nice things a bucket can be filled with 19:01 chris and then there is the unreleased fork 19:01 chris its the only truthful edit made 19:02 chris_n what a sadly poetical phrase: "For other meanings of Koha, see Koha (disambiguation)." 19:09 wizzyrea hm, that bit in our wikipedia page about the support companies might be better served to link to the list on the koha-community website 19:09 chris true 19:10 wizzyrea I mean, we all know there are more than just bywater, ptfs, and Nucsoft 19:11 brendan awwwhhh shucks 19:11 chris_n hehe 19:11 brendan agreed though - a link to koha-community would server everyone better 19:12 chris_n +1 # as if it's needed :) 19:12 brendan +1 19:13 gmcharlt +1 19:14 wizzyrea well I just went and did it, so I hope that's ok >.> 19:14 wizzyrea guess I should get a wikipedia login >.> 19:14 brendan wizzyrea++ 19:16 cait history could link to koha-community too 19:16 wizzyrea indeed 19:16 cait it sounds like liblime were the first company and its the only one mentioned 19:17 wizzyrea yea, I'm going to do a little proper editing on this I think. 19:17 cait wizzyrea++ 19:17 * chris_n cheers wizzyrea on 19:18 owen wizzyrea while you're in there please change the link for Nelsonville Public Library to http://www.myacpl.org 19:19 chris last time someone started an edit war with librarians 19:19 chris the librarians won 19:19 cait dont miss the liblime link under see also 19:20 wizzyrea owen: done. 19:20 chris was when an nz author (a very mediocre one) said libraries were stealing by lending books out 19:20 wizzyrea (haven't saved yet) 19:20 chris then tried to pretend it never happened 19:21 chris http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Edwards_(New_Zealand) <-- librarians won 19:21 chris ok time to go feed my kids 19:28 chris_n wizzyrea: maybe reordering in alphabetical order would be in order... like on koha-community.org 19:28 wizzyrea oh no no no we're not going to discuss sorting methodology 19:28 wizzyrea lol 19:28 * chris_n ducks 19:29 chris_n heya nengard 19:29 brendan heya nengard 19:29 chris_n snap 19:30 nengard i hear someone messed with my wikipedia edits??? 19:30 brendan missing some good action in the list 19:30 brendan whoops in channel 19:30 chris_n hehe 19:31 nengard people should know better than to change my edits!!! 19:31 * chris_n ducks again 19:31 * owen too 19:31 nengard hehe :) 19:31 nengard it wasn't you!! 19:32 nengard you wouldn't do that 19:33 wizzyrea I admit it, it was me >.> 19:33 wizzyrea at least this time 19:33 nengard no no 19:33 nengard you guys misunderstand 19:33 nengard i mean someone changed the fact that i put the links in to the official koha page 19:33 nengard now you're just re-doing what i did 19:34 nengard that's a-ok :) 19:34 wizzyrea ok... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koha_%28software%29 19:34 wizzyrea mostly in the history section 19:34 nengard i'm talia679 19:34 nengard in the history :) 19:36 owen wizzyrea: You forgot to move LibLime from the Open-source section of "competitors" to the Proprietary section :P 19:36 wizzyrea I wasn't working on that section yet 19:36 wizzyrea :) 19:36 wizzyrea but it's done now 19:37 sekjal wizzyrea: also, the LibLime link in the See Also is incorrect. Should point to LibLime's wikipedia page, in my opinion 19:37 wizzyrea ooh, yea good catch 19:37 wizzyrea you know what 19:37 nengard k 19:37 wizzyrea I don't think that should even be there 19:38 wizzyrea I think it should be "List of Koha Support companies" 19:38 wizzyrea and point to the website 19:38 wizzyrea because there's no reason that LL over anyone else should have a see also on that page 19:38 * cait mumbles mentioned see also too... 19:42 cait sorry, just a bit tired and moody today 19:43 wajasu chris_n: so those koha tips in the community web, say "Be sure you are *not* running the zebraqueue daemon". So should I just run a full index build every 5 minutes? (-b -a, without -z) 19:43 chris ok bus time back later 19:43 wajasu i've done full rebuilds, but i get nothing the search results. 19:43 cait wajasu: -z will just reindex new and changed records from zebra_queue table - so yes :) 19:43 chris go go librarian fact checkers 19:43 chris_n wajasu: -z every 5 mins would be fine 19:44 brendan wajasu - have you confirmed that zebraserver is running ? 19:44 chris_n what he said ^^ 19:44 brendan you can try this 19:44 brendan ps -aef | grep zebra 19:44 wizzyrea sorry cait, just missed your comment I think. 19:44 wizzyrea but it should be fixed now 19:44 * chris_n thinks brendan is just a mite faster on the keyboard :) 19:45 brendan yeah but usually with typos ;) 19:45 wizzyrea http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koha_(software) 19:45 wizzyrea please double check what I've done. 19:45 cait wizzyrea: no problem, thx for correcting everything! :) 19:45 chris_n wizzyrea: might sweet of you to correct that competition blunder :) 19:46 chris_n at least they will never be able to accuse us of malice 19:46 wajasu i did a fresh install/deploy last week. now they added/replaced their 1st marc record (that had 45 volumes). and now no results in the searches. 19:46 chris_n wajasu: were you able to confirm that zebra is running? 19:47 wajasu yes its running. /usr/bin/zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml 19:47 chris_n and rebuild_zebra.pl -b -r -v ran with no errors? 19:48 wajasu no errors. unless somehow i blocked the port it listens on with iptables/firewall? 19:48 wajasu but things were searching fine last thursday. 19:48 chris_n zebra should be running on a socket 19:48 chris_n hmm 19:49 brendan maybe restart zebra ? 19:49 wajasu i saw those sockets and they are read/write owned by root. 19:49 wajasu i'm running alpha 19:49 chris_n wajasu: and this faq does not apply: http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/#16 19:49 brendan in your ps -aef | grep zebra output 19:50 brendan what does the user say ? 19:50 brendan something like --user=koha 19:50 wajasu i just didi all that. 19:50 chris_n k 19:51 wajasu i just chowned -R koha:koha /var/lib/koha/zebradb /var/run/koha/zebradb 19:51 wajasu and ran rebuild as koha user with success. 19:52 wajasu i see lots of records exported, etc with -v when I rebuild. 19:52 chris_n and your zebra process is owned by the koha user (confirmed in the ps -ef output)? 19:53 * chris_n is puzzled 19:53 chris_n zebraqueue daemon is not running, right? 19:54 wajasu no. As root. because the instructions have me install as a daemon /etc/rc.d/koha-zebra-daemon (whihc i symlinked to /usr/share/koha/bin/koha-zebra-ctl.sh) 19:54 wajasu i stopped zebraqueue an hour ago so its out of the picture. 19:55 wajasu i haven'd installed any sudo functionality in this dist. 19:58 wajasu this is the 1st time i ever got zebraqueue running and it ran every five minutes since last thursday. 19:59 wajasu wait. i think i see somehting in the opac error log. 19:59 chris_n wajasu: it has bad memory leaks 19:59 chris_n zebraqueue that is 19:59 wajasu opac-search.pl: Use of uninitialized value in string eq at /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/opac-search.pl line 468 19:59 wizzyrea well I'm going to take it as a good sign that no one is objecting to my changes (yet) 20:00 wajasu i'm look at the source luke. 20:02 chris_n wajasu: what version do you have? 20:02 wajasu alpha 20:02 chris_n no, version number 20:02 chris_n about->koha 20:02 chris_n in the staff interface 20:02 wajasu where should i look 20:02 chris_n in the staff client, 'About' 20:02 wajasu i'm ssh'd into the server from home with only command line. 20:03 wajasu 1 minute 20:03 chris_n cat kohaversion.pl 20:03 wajasu 3.01.00.111 20:03 chris_n you can also test your zebra with the yaz-client 20:04 cait bug 4416++ 20:04 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4416 normal, P5, ---, oleonard@myacpl.org, NEW, renew all and return all buttons too close together 20:05 wajasu i'll try the yaz client now 20:05 chris_n wajasu: you might want to check the zebra username/password 20:05 chris_n verify the ones in koha-conf.xml 20:05 chris_n match those in zebradb/etc/passwd 20:05 owen Re: Bug 4416, one of my librarians questioned the need for a "renew all" button given the fact that we have a "select all" link under the Renew column. 20:06 cait I have given back a lot of books by accident (very bad when you are testing notices and fines) 20:06 chris_n ok, gotta run, bbl 20:06 cait I think renew all is ok, but its too easy to click on renew all instead of renew selected 20:06 wajasu i recall changing a passwd for kohaadmin for the staff. maybe its not synced. I'll check. 20:08 cait owen: often I mark one or more items and klick on renew all or return all 20:09 nengard can someone tell me what is 'earliest hold date' on the holds to pull report? 20:13 owen nengard: Since the report might list a title with multiple holds, I guess the report shows the date of the earliest one 20:14 nengard earliest one what? earliest available? earliest placed? 20:14 nengard first patron to receive the item? 20:14 owen The earliest hold date (being the hold for the patron who is next in line for it) 20:39 wizzyrea it suddenly got very quiet 20:42 richard hi 20:42 wizzyrea hi richard :) 20:42 richard hi wizzyrea 20:46 wizzyrea I can't remember... bulk patron edits, in 3.2? 20:49 wizzyrea also, update patrons from child to adult 20:49 wizzyrea easy or hard to implement? 20:49 sekjal wizzyrea: I recall some kind of automatic child to adult script... 20:49 sekjal it'd be pretty straightforward to write, then put on a nightly cron. 20:50 wizzyrea well that was what I thought 20:51 chris_n back 20:51 wizzyrea I think we had them do "DB maintenance" once to do that for us 20:51 wizzyrea which we paid for 20:51 wizzyrea and it seems dumb 20:51 wizzyrea to pay for such things, it should be so easy 20:52 sekjal so long as you had date of birth in the child records 20:52 * chris_n wonders how much money is made doing easy things 20:52 chris_n and why he never gets a shot at them :-) 20:53 wizzyrea you are clearly too nice. 20:53 wizzyrea ;) 20:54 * chris_n shows all his teeth and growls 20:54 wizzyrea well I suppose you wouldn't update a child that didn't have a birthdate 20:54 wizzyrea just report it out 20:54 wizzyrea "these children were not updated: cause, no birthdate" 20:54 wizzyrea nope, still not scary 20:55 wajasu one things i notice in the logs (which might have been zebraqueue, was searches that look like someone cut and pasted a text marc record in the search field.) 20:56 wajasu for the past week. tons of entries. 20:57 wajasu my koha-opac-error_log is >17MB and only me and one other have done at most 200 queries on the search field of the opac. 20:58 wajasu i'll see if now that the zebraqueue is stopped, if that goes away. 20:58 wajasu i'm going to look into the table. 21:05 chris back 21:07 chris i wonder if someone should reply to the koha.org thread on the mailing list, pointing out the ptfs edits of wikipedia? 21:07 wizzyrea well they're all gone now 21:07 chris still all in the history 21:08 chris and it does show the environment in which we are operating 21:08 wizzyrea maybe it would be better to just say that we've cleaned up the wikipedia entry 21:09 wizzyrea to more accurately reflect the current state of the project. 21:09 chris could be 21:09 chris_n and suggesting that further edits be left to the appointed leaders of the community 21:09 chris i dont think we wanna go that far 21:09 * wizzyrea doesn't really fall in that category 21:09 chris_n or at least be run by the list 21:09 chris but sticking to the facts might be nice 21:09 wizzyrea chris: have you looked at it since I finished with it? 21:09 * chris_n imagines a long drawn out series of oppsing edits ensuing 21:10 chris chris_n: wikipedia stamp that out pretty fast 21:10 chris they will lock the page if they have to 21:10 wizzyrea can you suggest that they do so? 21:10 chris wizzyrea: yep much better, but that really isnt the issue IMHO 21:10 * chris_n is a bit releaved to hear that 21:10 * wizzyrea doesn't work with editing wikipedia much 21:10 wizzyrea oh I know it's not the issu 21:10 wizzyrea but I did change other stuff too 21:11 chris the issue is that ptfs have decided to attack the community, openly in public 21:11 chris_n it all seems a bit childish imho 21:11 chris and i think people should be aware of that 21:11 chris_n heya larsw 21:11 chris_n nice work on the deb packages 21:11 larsw thank you 21:12 chris_n chris: some sort of post might not be out of order 21:12 sekjal larsw++ 21:13 chris ill give it a day or 2 21:13 chris certainly if its edited again 21:14 chris man, what a waste of energy 21:14 wizzyrea no kidding 21:14 wizzyrea oh yes, larsw++ 21:15 sekjal I'm very excited about "sudo apt-get install koha" becoming a reality 21:15 larsw stop that, I am only an 8-bit variable, you're going to overflow me 21:15 larsw (kidding aside: thank you, it feels good to get feedback) 21:15 wizzyrea sekjal: omg, no kidding. 21:15 * wizzyrea puts that in angry twitter guy's face 21:16 sekjal then, with the .deb, we can easily have a turnkeylinux app 21:16 * wizzyrea squees! 21:17 larsw I have a preliminary koha.deb, but it doesn't work out of the box yet; chris is helping me iron out the problems, and I will let koha-devel know when I have something that is safe for other people to try 21:18 sekjal thanks, larsw! I'll happily put it through it's paces when it's ready 21:18 chris a patch i sent for fixing the libxml issue should help with that, i must check that with gmcharlt 21:18 gmcharlt chris: I'm strongly tempted to stick that into MARC::File::XML 21:19 gmcharlt but at any rate, if you wouldn't mind s/write/right/ on the patch 21:19 chris ahh doh 21:19 chris yeah can do 21:20 chris i love git commit --amend, make a branch, cherry pick fix the files git add git commit --amend and away you go 21:20 chris will do that right now 21:24 chris i switched half way through and started saying correct, so ill just s/write/correct/ 21:24 chris on the bad ones and resubmit 21:28 wajasu can anyone give me a quick example command line for a yaz-cliinet search. I'm trying to figure out auth/open, etc.. 21:29 chris_n wajasu: check the list archives; there are several threads dealing with the yaz-client 21:29 wajasu ok 21:37 chris gmcharlt: just rebasing the 2505 changes add a couple of conflicts, fixing now 21:39 chris sent 21:43 chris off to a meeting bbl 22:58 wajasu connected with yaz-client and did a search and got 49 results. so the zebra server/index is not the problem at the moment. 22:59 wajasu when i search thru the opac, it seems the search never hits the zebrasrv 23:00 wajasu so maybe its a permissions problem. or an error inthe search.pl might be short circuiting things. 23:05 chris wasaju: you do have nozebra switched off? 23:05 wajasu if i see 'use of uninitialize value in string eq at /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/opac-search.pl line 468 which looks up $params->{'offset'} ... 23:06 wajasu i'm going to have to see if my staff person messed with prefs. 23:06 wajasu is there a mysql table tht logs changes? 23:07 wajasu i might be able to do a query to see their changes. 23:07 wajasu i'll check nozebra. 23:10 chris not for sysprefs i dont think 23:11 wajasu i queried sysprefs and saw NoZebra with value 1 23:11 chris ah ha 23:11 chris therein lies the problem 23:11 chris change that to 0 23:11 chris and try your search in the opac 23:11 wajasu i think i accidently ran rebuild_nozebra.pl then ctrl-c'd it. 23:12 wajasu so it might have changed that? 23:12 * chris is very happy to see email from cfouts 23:12 chris it is possible 23:12 wajasu thx, i will check it out later. got a meeting for a couple of hours. 23:13 * chris answers 23:31 brendan chris: I think that nozebra will be the trick 23:32 brendan when it comes down to it - it's always the easiest answer eh? 23:32 chris yep 23:33 chris always best to look like a dork and ask the obvious questions 23:33 brendan :) 23:33 brendan tried that with - is zebra running? 23:33 chris :) 23:33 * brendan needs to go more dorky 23:39 * chris_n asked the same questions twice... does that qualify? 23:40 chris thats just forgetful :)