Time  Nick           Message
06:07 wajasu         if you run from git, do you just 'git pull' or 'git fetchj
06:07 wajasu         get fetch to get the latest
07:13 Ropuch         Morning #koha
07:18 chris          hi Ropuch
07:24 Ropuch         Hi chris
07:24 CGI853         hi
07:29 ppak           anybody can help me to solve this problem..
07:29 ppak           MARC acquisition system Import into the reservoir  Import results :      * 0 imported records     * 0 not imported because already in catalog     * 0 not imported because already in the reservoir     * 2 not imported because they seem not to be in MARC format (or ISBN/ISSN missing) !     * 2 records parsed     * Back
07:36 Amit_G         hi Ropuch, chris
07:37 Ropuch         Hi Amit_G
07:38 Ropuch         ppak: where did you get the records you're trying to import?
07:42 paul_p         hello world
07:42 ppak           i get from other lib opac..
07:46 Ropuch         Hi paul_p
07:48 Ropuch         ppak: Can you paste the file you're trying to import to pastbin.org?
07:48 Ropuch         There's only 2 records in it, right?
07:52 ppak           i'm not try for this one..
08:11 ppak           i've done it..tq 4 ur help
09:02 kf             hi #koha
09:11 miguel-xercode hi all
09:16 miguel-xercode I wonder if there is the option to select or change styles koha to provide, for example, about koha default styles for the catalog and other for kids catalog ?
09:58 Willem         Hi, does anyone know why the following doesn't update the patron info:  ModMember( borrowernumber => '503', address => 'My New Address' ); it is run by perl without errors and even returns as true, but afterwards, the patron info is still the same. I'm using ModItem successfully to update item info.
10:12 hdl_laptop     Willem: which version ?
10:14 Willem         our koha version is 3.00.01.005 is that what you're asking?
11:40 jdavidb        howdy, #koha.
11:41 kf             hi jdavidb
12:21 chris_n        greetings #koha
12:22 jwagner        G'morning chris_n
12:27 chris_n        doesn't 'git checkout -b committish' create a topic branch at the commit referenced by committish?
12:32 jdavidb        no, it would create a branch named commitish, at the current HEAD.  what you're probably looking for is 'git checkout -b branchname commitish', I think.
12:34 chris_n        jdavidb: bingo :)
12:35 jdavidb        :)
12:59 jwagner        Any XSLT experts on this morning?
13:00 jwagner        I'm working on Bug 4276, trying to strip out the parens.
13:00 munin`         04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4276 critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, "Related subjects" search is OPAC doesn't work with chained subject terms
13:01 jwagner        In the chopPunctuation section of MARC21slimUtils.xsl, it has <xsl:when test="contains('.:,;/ ', substring($chopString,$length,1))">
13:02 jwagner        I was trying to add the parens into that, but it either ignores them completely or thinks they're trying to close the call.  I tried escaping them with backslashes \(\) but it ignored that.  How to make this section include parens as punctuation to be stripped out?
13:07 * chris_n      admits that he gave up on the xslt stuff awhile back
13:08 chris_n        the civicrm web installer checks directory permissions and flags those incorrect... that would be nice to implement in the koha web installer
13:08 chris_n        it might head off a whole herd of zebra problems
13:09 * jwagner      has visions of herds of zebras running amok
13:10 braedon|home   what is with all the zebra jokes today?
13:10 chris_n        yes, they are easily spooked :)
13:10 braedon|home   both on here, and in the mailing list
13:10 braedon|home   has no one previously realised "Zebra" is the name of an animal?
13:10 * braedon|home finds it rather perplexing
13:11 owen           Each of those people has finally reached the stage where Zebra has driven them insane.
13:11 * jwagner      thinks we'll find humor whever we can....
13:11 chris_n        they are long standing actually and tend to flare up when the herd stampedes
13:12 chris_n        however, when all is quiet on the western front so to speak, the joke tend to ebb
13:12 jwagner        Now, see, if we replaced zebra with SOLR, we could make jokes about solar eclipses etc.
13:12 chris_n        perhaps with such a change we'd finally see the light of day?
13:12 owen           And Ed Begley Jr.
13:12 collum         jwagner: there is a chopBracketsls
13:12 collum         oops
13:13 collum         chopBrackets function in MARC21slimOPACResults.xsl
13:13 collum         I wonder if you can copy that and change it to chopParens
13:15 jwagner        collum, I was trying a separate chopParens function initially but had no luck.  I'll take another look.  The chopBrackets looks like the same syntax, and the brackets aren't escaped -- <xsl:if test="substring($string, 1,1)='['">
13:16 collum         The escaping looks correct, but I wonder if chopString just removes the last character of a string.
13:16 * collum       doesn't like xslt
13:18 * jwagner      doesn't like it either.
13:18 kf             hey
13:18 kf             I m starting work on xslt right now - dont make me give up :)
13:20 jwagner        No, no, escape while you still can!!!
13:21 * jwagner      thinks it would help if I knew what I was doing, rather than fumbling with an unfamiliar language and syntax.
13:31 hdl_laptop     jwagner: there are very good xslt tutorials online
13:34 jwagner        hdl_laptop, I've been working through some of them.  Not too much help, so far.
13:38 * chris_n      takes another guess at erik's problem
13:51 jwagner        collum, I'm not having any luck with the parens problem, and I have to break off to work on other stuff.  I can try to come back to it later, but I don't know when, sigh.
13:53 kf             jwagner: need to implement links with $w between titles - need to understand marc first, xslt after that... :(
13:54 jwagner        kf, then you're REALLY done for :-)
13:54 collum         np. I'm not able to look at it again till next week.
13:54 kf             yep :)
14:45 wizzyrea_home  nengard: images again, but much much better
14:45 wizzyrea_home  I think this may work now
14:45 wizzyrea_home  (yes, it's still broken atm)
14:48 CGI474         Hi I want to transfer data from one server to another server. I don't know how to transfer that data. Can anyone please help me with that.. Both the machine have same versions,
14:48 hdl_laptop     mysqldump
14:48 hdl_laptop     on the first server
14:48 hdl_laptop     mysqldump >file.sql
14:49 CGI474         ohk let me try
14:49 CGI474         thanks a lot
14:49 hdl_laptop     mysql database -u user -ppaswd <file.sql
14:49 hdl_laptop     Be CAREFULL
14:49 CGI474         I am not working on live data so I think I can take chance even if it not works good
14:50 CGI474         If I am successful then I will get my hand on live data
14:56 wizzyrea_home  @later tell nengard squee!
14:56 munin`         wizzyrea_home: The operation succeeded.
14:57 wizzyrea_home  @later tell nicomo thanks for fixing the characters in the appendix. HTML generation of the manual seems to work great now. :)
14:57 munin`         wizzyrea_home: The operation succeeded.
15:02 wizzyrea       oh snap
15:02 wizzyrea       http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/03/22/1635205/Open-Source-Is-Not-a-Democracy?from=twitter
15:03 wizzyrea       I think the first comment sums it up
15:17 sekjal         wizzyrea: agreed
15:26 wajasu         something peculiar.  i am running out of git (origin), and i load my 16000 records.  I search and some show up duplicated in the results.
15:27 wizzyrea       http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/
15:28 wizzyrea       see 1
15:28 chris_n        wizzyrea++ #for such excellent work
15:29 wizzyrea       chris did it
15:29 wizzyrea       >.> I just set up the infrastructure
15:29 chris_n        chris++ #ditto
15:29 chris_n        seems we are on our way to taming the zebra
15:29 wajasu         I'll try that out.  Yeah community!
15:30 sekjal         wizzyrea++ . Thanks for all your efforts on the Koha site
15:33 wizzyrea       :) thanks, it's fun and for a good cause.
15:34 sekjal         had there been plans discussed for redoing contribs.koha.org using the new site?  It seems like the kind of content that WP would manage well
15:36 wizzyrea       yes, in fact it does seem like it would work there
15:36 wizzyrea       I'm waiting on DNS for subdomains
15:36 wizzyrea       Si is on holiday
15:36 sekjal         okay, cool.
15:36 wizzyrea       but I do think contribs would work there
15:36 wizzyrea       and things like the report library
15:36 wizzyrea       er, or not
15:36 wizzyrea       that's probably better on the wiki
15:37 * wizzyrea     changes her mind quickly a lot
15:37 * jwagner      thinks that's better than never changing it at all :-)
15:37 sekjal         I'm late in posting my III migration code I promised at C4L.  perhaps I just should post to the existing contribs and redo it if/when we switch
15:38 wizzyrea       well re-do = copy/paste
15:38 wizzyrea       ;)
15:38 wizzyrea       or download/upload, as the case may be
15:38 wizzyrea       I'd go ahead and post it
15:39 sekjal         yeah, I should.
15:39 sekjal         but that means I have to give the XSLT a good twice-over, to give the best possible example to build from
15:39 sekjal         yuck
16:00 wajasu         wizzyrea++
16:01 wajasu         chris_n++
16:01 wajasu         my zebra is blushing
16:01 wizzyrea       hehe
16:01 wajasu         it worked.
16:04 wajasu         when I import with 952$8REF (i.e. ccode=REF), i look in items.ccode and only see null's, FIC and NFIC, but no REF.
16:05 wajasu         i tried advanced search with limit = Reference and no results.
16:05 wajasu         do I need to set a marc to koha mapping, or make a new framework?
16:06 wizzyrea       try the 1st marc/koha mapping
16:06 wajasu         to get 952$8 indexed, or to get items.ccode filled in?
16:06 wajasu         ok
16:07 * wizzyrea     is not an indexing guru, I just know where to look
16:09 wajasu         i looked at the koha to marc mapping and 965$8 looks like its mapped in this default framework.
16:10 wajasu         the question is, should i be getting REF in my items.ccode when 952$8 is REF?
16:11 wajasu         or is this a field used for nozebra mode?
16:11 wajasu         and I need to look to zebra indexing (i.e. export...952$8)
16:12 kf             $8 is an authorized calue
16:12 kf             value
16:12 kf             i REF defined in auth value LOC?
16:13 wajasu         i thought it was CCODE?
16:13 kf             in the database ist items.ccode
16:13 wajasu         its confusing because I have REF in CCODE, LOC, and itemtypes.
16:13 kf             there the code is saved and a description for the code is in auth value
16:13 kf             LOC
16:13 kf             ah sorry
16:13 kf             its CCODE
16:13 kf             LOC ist for $c
16:15 * kf           got a bit confused while reading marc records
16:17 wajasu         i put REF in $c as well when I built my import records.
16:22 kf             hm I think you shoudl find out why it did not get imported as ccode - is it still present in marcxml?
16:23 kf             koha is case sensitive there - REF and ref might cause problems
16:26 wajasu         you mean the marcxml that gets exported?
16:27 kf             hm not sure - I would look in biblio/biblioitem?.marcxml first
16:27 kf             you said RED is not in items.ccode
16:27 kf             REF
16:27 kf             perhaps someone else can help you better
16:28 kf             its time for me to go home now
16:29 kf             im sorry
16:33 wajasu         no problem. you gave me a lead.
16:33 wajasu         thx
16:46 wajasu         i found a bug in my program that massages my import marc records. koha is fine.
16:47 wizzyrea       whew what a relief ;)
16:47 wizzyrea       man, don't you just love it when you have a problem, and it turns out to be the people, and not the system.
16:47 wizzyrea       </sarcasm>
16:48 wizzyrea       erm, unrelated to your issue, wajasu
17:15 chris_n        another LLEK limitation
17:21 owen           Did we improve on LLEK by doubling the hard-coded limit? ;)
17:21 miguel-xercode hi all
17:21 miguel-xercode one question
17:24 miguel-xercode its possible use in koha to use a domain by adding /koha1 /koha2
17:25 * owen         imagines a script that would automatically file a bug for every FIXME in Koha's code
17:26 chris_n        owen: nice
17:26 gmcharlt       owen: only if that script can translate to FIXME notes into something that makes sense ;)
17:26 chris_n        miguel-xercode: do you mean run multiple koha installs on a single box?
17:31 chris_n        hmm... "grep -rhc FIXME * | perl -lpe '${_{_}}+=+${_}}{${_}+=+${_{_}}'" from the root of my repo reports 643 FIXME's
17:32 * chris_n      declines to answer questions about that bit of obfuscation as it was stolen from perlmonks.org
17:33 * owen         has never understood the use of FIXMEs...at least not ones without accompanying bug reports
17:35 miguel-xercode not the case, though, too. I refer that in very generic domain like a great institution, to use a proxy through using these types of url.
17:50 chris_n        miguel-xercode: I would think that would be a function of whatever reverse proxy one was running
18:36 chris          morning
18:39 chris_n        hi chris
19:34 richard        hi
19:35 chris_n        howdy richard
19:42 wajasu         the legacy database i am migrating had some records that are marked as RESERVE.  I translated those to notforloan in 952$7.
19:42 wajasu         i don't have a ccode for Reserved.
19:43 wajasu         i see a table called reserves.   should i be somehow getting my imports in there?
19:44 wajasu         are reserves holds?
19:44 wajasu         (i.e. the same?)
19:45 chris          yes
19:46 wajasu         so when a person puts a hold on a book, it mean to hold it for them until they come to pick it up. (though the table is called reserves).
19:47 wajasu         And my librarian must use the term Reserved, to mean not for loan.
19:48 chris          yes
19:48 chris          in nz ppl call them reserves
19:48 chris          hence the table being called reserves
19:48 wajasu         ahh
19:50 wajasu         it seems that if i somehow configure another libraries z3950 server, when i search, can i get their books in the results also?
19:54 chris          no
19:54 chris          but you can search them when you are cataloguing
19:55 chris          if you want to search more than one Z39.50 server in something like the opac, you would have to do some work setting up pazpar2 and getting koha to search that (which in turn searches any number of targets)
19:56 chris          the existing Z39.50 search function is just for searching when you are cataloguing items so you can import a catalogue record rather than typing it all in yourself
19:59 wajasu         i see the "All libraries" option in the advanced search for staff client.  lib of congress is enabled in the x3950 servers.  how do i get it to query other servers?
20:00 wajasu         Advanced search --> Location and Availability section
21:32 CGI018         hello?
21:33 CGI018         hello?
21:33 CGI018         anyone?
21:33 CGI018         newbie here :-)
21:39 larsw          hi there
21:39 larsw          I am a newbie myself
21:40 CGI018         geez :)
21:40 CGI018         where be the experts
21:41 CGI018         how new are you, larsw?
21:41 wizzyrea       <  not an expert, but not really a nub
21:41 * wizzyrea     can try to help
21:41 wizzyrea       what's up
21:41 CGI018         awesome
21:41 CGI018         thanks, wizzyrea
21:41 CGI018         i have a question right now
21:41 wizzyrea       shoot
21:43 * wizzyrea     should mention that she has to go in 20 minutes
21:43 CGI018         i'm going over the Implementation Checklist and under OPAC Config, it says one should turn off OpacPasswordChange if using LADP authentication
21:43 CGI018         idk what that really means
21:44 wizzyrea       are you using LDAP for patron authentication?
21:44 CGI018         idk
21:44 CGI018         that's the thing
21:44 CGI018         who can i ask
21:44 wizzyrea       example: do you have a server somewhere that controls all of your authentication services across your network?
21:44 wizzyrea       the IT people, likely
21:44 wizzyrea       I'm guessing (only a guess) that you can ignore this statement
21:44 CGI018         ok, i'll have to do that
21:45 wizzyrea       are you having a specific problem?
21:45 wizzyrea       related to logging into the OPAC?
21:45 wizzyrea       or just going through the checklist
21:45 wizzyrea       (and where did you find this checklist, if I may ask)
21:45 CGI018         going through checlist and making decisions as i go along
21:45 wizzyrea       ah
21:46 CGI018         it's part of the koha documentation
21:46 CGI018         http://koha.org/documentation/manual/3.0/appendices/implementation-checklist
21:48 wizzyrea       i would not worry about LDAP until you know whether or not you are actually using it
21:48 CGI018         thanks, i've made a note to ask the IT people just in case
21:48 wizzyrea       how big is your library?
21:48 CGI018         tiny
21:48 wizzyrea       then no, you probably aren't running it
21:48 CGI018         tiny academic
21:49 wizzyrea       but, academics... mayb eyou are
21:49 wizzyrea       hard to say
21:49 CGI018         did you configure your koha ils yourself?
21:49 wizzyrea       I have done it, yes
21:49 wizzyrea       but not with LDAP
21:50 wizzyrea       and so you know, the real official koha site is at koha-community.org
21:50 wizzyrea       it's the one that's actually up to date
21:50 moodaepo       wizzyrea: someone should add that link to irc welcome banner!
21:51 wizzyrea       someone would have to have operator to do that :(
21:51 * moodaepo     wonders if wizzyrea has that access : )
21:51 wizzyrea       I do not :(
21:51 moodaepo       ah so you don't : (
21:51 moodaepo       man I need to learn to type looking at the screen!
21:52 wizzyrea       but you probably want to tell any 'CGIXXX' users that they are looking at the wrong site
21:52 moodaepo       Do you know who does? gmcharlt?
21:53 CGI018         oh boy thanks for that info
21:53 CGI018         i'll bookmark it now
21:54 wizzyrea       there aren't any ops online right now
21:54 wizzyrea       afaik the only ones who have it work at katipo
21:54 wizzyrea       k-c has a nicer IRC interface, as well
21:54 wizzyrea       that lets you choose your nick
21:54 wizzyrea       ;)
21:56 CGI018         thanks for your help, wizzyrea
21:56 wizzyrea       one caveat about k-c:  not all of the content has been moved, it's still in process, or being reworked, or... but koha-community.org is the site that is and will be maintained
21:56 wizzyrea       sure thing. Pop back again sometime and let us know how it works out :)
21:56 larsw          chris tells me no one is an op, and the way to get someone to become an op is for everyone to leave and then someone to re-create the channel
21:56 CGI018         certainly
21:56 CGI018         till next time
21:57 wizzyrea       bogus. lol
21:57 moodaepo       larsw: really! no way
21:57 wizzyrea       :)
21:57 wizzyrea       that is certainly one way to do it
21:57 larsw          I don't know how things work here, I do know that's how it works (or worked years ago) on the original ircnet
21:57 chris          its the way irc works, you cant op someone if you aren't an op, and the last op disconnected
21:57 chris          before opping anyone else
21:57 moodaepo       ok who is lying to the nooob?
21:57 larsw          some irc networks have chanserv, which takes care of keeping channels and op status alive
21:57 wizzyrea       on freenode if you are the owner of the channel you can op yourself
21:58 wizzyrea       what he said
21:58 wizzyrea       but not this one, apparently
21:58 chris          yeah cos there is a bot running to do that
21:58 wizzyrea       we need to op a bot
21:58 chris          well to do that we need ops ;)
21:58 wizzyrea       ^.^
21:58 larsw          freenode has a chanserv, this network does not seem to have one
21:59 wizzyrea       and we can't kick anybody... because we don't have ops!
21:59 moodaepo       Is there a official Koha pastebin type site? Or one that is usually used?
21:59 larsw          this is all very democratic now
21:59 wizzyrea       ah, there is paste.workbuffer.org that ppls use
21:59 wizzyrea       i think that's the URL anyway
21:59 * wizzyrea     is feeling kind of dumb today
22:00 chris          yep theres that
22:00 chris          or you can use koha.pastebin.com
22:00 larsw          shouldn't matter which pastebin one users, though?
22:00 chris          nope
22:00 wizzyrea       nah
22:00 wizzyrea       one minute!
22:00 chris          paste.workbuffer.org has a bot associated
22:01 * larsw        sees alohabot
22:01 wizzyrea       ok... off to get my kiddo. ttyl :)
22:01 pastebot       "chris" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "see" (1 line) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/25
22:02 moodaepo       I'm a fan of this type of header > "Official Koha Channel | http://koha-community.org/ | 3.0.5 & 3.2 Alpha | http://koha-community.org/download-koha/ | Large Pastes @ http://paste.workbuffer.org/"
22:03 moodaepo       @weather 56001
22:03 munin`         moodaepo: The current temperature in South on Monks, Mankato, Minnesota is 14.3�C (5:02 PM CDT on March 23, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 29%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Rising).
22:22 chris          moodaepo: yep, cant do a thing about it currently
23:16 chris_n        @wunder 28334
23:16 munin`         chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 17.6�C (7:14 PM EDT on March 23, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 13%. Dew Point: -11.0�C. Pressure: 29.47 in 997.9 hPa (Rising).
23:16 * chris_n      wonders why he is inside on such a beautiful evening
23:16 chris_n        off to fix that problem ;-)