Time  Nick           Message
10:13 genji          hiya all. okay, im quite paranoid about updating my production machines without breaking koha... and its specific libXML version requirements, so easy to break... how do i ensure i can upgrade the system without koha being broken?
10:36 genji          brandon, you unidle?
10:37 braedon|home   are you meaning me? or brendan? or someone actually called brandon?
10:45 braedon|home   ok, apparently not me then :P
10:46 genji          oh.. sorry
10:46 * braedon|home curses the continual uncertainty created by the butchered spelling of his name, and returns to idleing
10:46 genji          got a cube running, didn't see your messge.
10:46 genji          braedon|home:
10:46 genji          braedon|home: You run a koha/debian system?
10:47 braedon|home   did temporarily, over the summer
10:47 braedon|home   (at uni again now)
10:48 braedon|home   o, your question about libXML earlier?
10:48 genji          braedon|home: How do you update debian, without killing koha? it has version dependancy issues with libxml and LibXML and so forth.. that im afraid to  security patch it.
10:49 genji          can't afford mistakes.
10:50 braedon|home   not sure i will be able to help you unfortunately. The only systems i updated were actually ubuntu(we switched halfway through deployment), and we never had any issues with libXML after initial install
10:51 braedon|home   probably best to wait for someone with longer term management knowledge
10:52 genji          yeah... can't really switch distros now, the hosting machine is now public.
10:53 braedon|home   haha, switching to ubuntu to be able to take my advice would not be, well, advisable lol :)
10:54 braedon|home   the only issues i remember related to libxml, we with the default sax parser
10:55 braedon|home   we didn't have any problems once that was done
10:56 genji          yeah.. well.. go too far with libxml upgrades, and LibXML won't install... and downgrading is difficult.
10:56 genji          had this problem  with trying to use Centos.
10:57 genji          its libxml was too new for LibXML
10:57 braedon|home   i don't have access to any Koha systems atm, so i can't even check what versions we had running. i really should set up my own testing VMs....
10:57 braedon|home   ok
10:57 genji          and this was straight off a centos 5.2 iso.
10:59 braedon|home   all i can tell you is that it worked fine for both Koha 3.00.05 and 3.2 alpha with the standard versions from the Ubuntu repositories, a month ago
10:59 braedon|home   so i suppose you could check the debian version against the ubuntu one
11:00 braedon|home   and assuming ubuntu didn't break something with their modifications...
11:02 braedon|home   sorry i can't be of more assistance
11:13 genji          braedon|home: hey, thats fine.
11:13 genji          i can wait.
11:13 genji          not like hackers are attacking.
11:14 genji          haven't seen any authentication loopholes in koha anyway. its pretty airtight.
11:52 Musab          Hi there
11:54 Musab          How can I understand the meaning and the purpose of each columns in the sql database of koha
14:08 kmkale         @weather
14:08 munin          kmkale: (weather <US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country>) -- Returns the approximate weather conditions for a given city.
14:08 kmkale         @weather Mumbai
14:08 munin          kmkale: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 31.0�C (7:10 PM IST on March 21, 2010). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 21.0�C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady).
14:08 kmkale         @weather Thane India
14:08 munin          kmkale: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 31.0�C (7:10 PM IST on March 21, 2010). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 21.0�C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady).
17:08 brendan        @weather 93117
17:08 munin          brendan: The current temperature in ASOS_HFM SANTA BARBARA, CA, Santa Barbara, California is 13.9�C (9:45 AM PDT on March 21, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.16 in 1021.2 hPa (Steady).
18:45 chris_n        @wunder 28334
18:45 munin          chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 21.3�C (2:44 PM EDT on March 21, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 14%. Dew Point: -7.0�C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006.0 hPa (Rising).
18:45 brendan        heya chris_n
18:46 chris_n        howdy brendan, how's it going out west?
18:46 brendan        well...  Inside today - but went to he regan presidential library yesterday
18:47 chris_n        neat... do they use Koha?
18:47 chris_n        :)
18:47 brendan        was pretty cool (although I wasn't a crazy fan of reagan) but it was still cool to see Air force one
18:47 brendan        wasn't able to make it into the archives
18:47 brendan        would be cool if they did
18:47 chris_n        yeah
19:31 richard        hi
19:41 brendan        heya richard
19:41 richard        hi brendan
20:05 chris          morning
20:07 richard        hi chris
21:31 brendan        @weather 93117
21:31 munin          brendan: The current temperature in ASOS_HFM SANTA BARBARA, CA, Santa Barbara, California is 17.2�C (2:05 PM PDT on March 21, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1019.5 hPa (Falling).
21:39 rhcl_home      brendan: are you flying or driving to Portland?
21:39 brendan        I'm flying
21:39 rhcl_home      Oh, Santa Barbara? You're flying.
21:39 brendan        need to be in Denver the next week
21:39 rhcl_home      I had the idea you were in N. CA
21:39 chris          are you going rhcl_home ?
21:40 brendan        Santa Barbara is about 1.5 hours north of LA
21:40 rhcl_home      No, I'm not high enough on the feeding chain. :)
21:40 chris          ah bummer
21:40 rhcl_home      We're sending a whole contingent though, like five people.
21:40 chris          sweet
21:40 rhcl_home      Actually I'm more tech than library, so it's logical that they wouldn't send me.
21:41 rhcl_home      I'm barely aware there are two different lengths of ISBNs
21:41 chris          oh i dunno
21:41 chris          thats probably a good reason to go ;)
21:42 rhcl_home      I used to go to different things, but then stopped while I was doing my MS, so I'll probably start getting out more now.