Time Nick Message 23:01 gmcharlt good night 23:01 hdl_laptop good night folks 22:57 hdl_laptop thanks 22:52 brendan atz was telling me that your presentation last year ( hdl_laptop ) was awesome 22:50 chris :) 22:50 gmcharlt I'm looking forward to NZ 22:50 gmcharlt we missed you 22:50 hdl_laptop would have been great to be there 22:49 brendan was great to see atz 22:49 brendan hdl_laptop: atz was there too 22:49 brendan gmcharlt++ 22:49 gmcharlt hdl_laptop: yep, I managed to get enough coffee in me yesterday morning ;) 22:49 gmcharlt sekjall++ 22:49 hdl_laptop gmcharlt: I know he is bright at presenting ;) 22:49 gmcharlt brendan++ 22:48 brendan kudos also go to gmcharlt and sekjal 22:48 brendan thanks 22:48 brendan hi hdl_laptop 22:47 hdl_laptop hi brendan... Congrats for your presentation 22:38 moodaepo Nice. Too bad couldn't make it this year, next year! 22:37 brendan had a good mix of people 22:37 brendan it went very well 22:36 moodaepo How did your presentation go? 22:35 moodaepo brendan: Ahoy 22:35 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 16.3�C (2:32 PM PST on February 23, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1022.9 hPa (Falling). 22:35 brendan @wunder 93117 22:35 munin brendan: The current temperature in Sunset Mountain, Asheville, North Carolina is 2.1�C (5:34 PM EST on February 23, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: -0.0�C. Windchill: -1.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009.0 hPa (Rising). Winter Weather Advisory in effect from midnight tonight to 6 PM EST Wednesday... 22:35 brendan @wunder asheville, NC 22:34 brendan hi moodaepo 22:32 munin moodaepo: The current temperature in South on Monks, Mankato, Minnesota is -12.3�C (4:31 PM CST on February 23, 2010). Conditions: Clear. 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Pressure: 30.03 in 1016.8 hPa (Falling). 22:32 moodaepo @wunder 56001 21:49 sekjal time to pack it up for the evening. cheers, #koha 21:48 cait good night #koha 21:33 richard /invite chris (or whoever you choose) 21:33 richard and then 21:32 richard /join #lee (or whatever you choose) 21:32 richard i'd open a new channel and invite who you wanted to chat with 21:32 Lee ok 21:32 Lee [off] suggestions? 21:31 brendan chris++ 21:31 brendan [off] like that 21:31 chris its best to use a different channel, to easy to miss the off 21:31 chris no 21:31 brendan but you're right probly best not to chat here 21:31 chris or just make a new # and chat there 21:31 Lee off like this 21:31 chris at the start of a message 21:31 brendan you can if you use [off] 21:30 Lee well then I cant chat here 21:30 chris http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/2010-02-23#i_399001 21:30 chris but this is all publicly logged 21:30 chris not for nearly a year no 21:30 Lee yeah 21:30 chris ferraro? 21:29 Lee so does Josh lurk here? 20:57 brendan :) 20:57 brendan I see the license police coming after me 20:57 nengard i like the editor i'm using :) 20:56 nengard hehe 20:56 brendan whoops should have offed that one 20:56 brendan yeah thinking of someway that we could share it 20:55 nengard wow! cool - congrats 20:55 nengard oxygen is very very very expensive - I use a free XML editor :) but I used oxygen when I was a metadata librarian 20:55 brendan a key for downloading oxygen 20:55 nengard brendan - a book on oxygen? or oxygen itself? 20:54 nengard nicole ... what?? 20:54 sekjal still have to gather up more CC images to make it pretty 20:53 chris ah cool 20:53 sekjal 10:55 local time 20:53 sekjal tomorrow morning 20:53 chris when is your talk sekjal ? 20:52 sekjal nice choice, brendan. 20:52 brendan yeah maybe nicole could get some from it too 20:52 chris ive heard good things about that 20:52 brendan I went with the oxygen xml editor 20:50 liz-nekls !! 20:50 chris whatcha get? 20:50 chris w00t 20:50 sekjal and brendan wins a prize! 20:46 sekjal atz++, indeed 20:45 chris he's a good man 20:45 brendan atz++ gets some here too 20:44 brendan yup 20:44 chris he called some vendors out huh? 20:44 chris heh, yeah seeing lots of atz++ 20:44 sekjal atz "mystery meat" lightning talk... very illuminating 20:29 gmcharlt so it actually means adding *another* if :) 20:27 chris ah right you are 20:27 gmcharlt not necessarily - if you're doing auth_by_bind and *not* replicating, don't need the extra call 20:19 chris and if we are gonna repeat the $search_method call, lets shift it out of the if else 20:18 chris i dont like it 20:18 chris yeah 20:18 gmcharlt make it blithely process along if the user didn't specify a mapping section in the LDAP config 20:18 chris so he's taken a die out 20:17 * chris eyeballs the patch 20:17 chris *nod* 20:17 gmcharlt that kind of blanket assertion is ... questionable 20:16 chris yeah 20:16 gmcharlt worries me 20:16 gmcharlt " 20:16 gmcharlt sure that code as-is works for anyone). 20:16 gmcharlt ... "along with fix for mungling of mapping (I'm not quite 20:16 chris just a fyi so the patch doesnt get missed, if you want i can try the patch out and send it on to the list? 20:15 chris has a patch attached, but not sent to the list 20:15 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4256 blocker, P5, ---, chris@bigballofwax.co.nz, NEW, auth_by_bind doesn't fetch user LDAP entry breaking replicate 20:15 chris gmcharlt: bug 4256 20:11 chris git rules 20:11 gmcharlt wizzyrea_ et al.: please pull from the holds branch of git://git.librarypolice.com/git/koha-galen.git and try again 20:10 cait chris: thx for explaining :) 20:09 chris so its a single thread essentially, which means everythign has to wait 20:08 chris python doesnt do threading very well 20:08 cait ah, now I got to the home page :) 20:08 cait ok, will wait for pootle to figure it out 20:08 chris s 20:08 chris and it makes pootle spin working out all the change 20:07 chris cait: someone keeps uploading .po files 20:07 gmcharlt two calls to _FixPriority have been broken for rather a long time 20:07 * gmcharlt slaps forehead 20:06 cait hm, pootle is loaaading... 19:58 owen gone 19:57 chris back 19:57 * brendan goes to rewatch 19:57 brendan I think I spent more time watching that then watching the vdieo 19:57 wizzyrea_ ok, afk a bit heading home, but will be back 19:57 brendan ah 19:56 brendan googles 19:56 wizzyrea_ quassel 19:56 brendan for wizzyrea_ 19:56 brendan what's that icon in the dock that spends the whole time bouncing? 19:56 wizzyrea_ i like the moving videos because then you can see exactly what I did 19:53 wizzyrea_ this one shows the wierdness associated with clearing the cache 19:53 wizzyrea_ brendan did you see this screencap: http://screencast.com/t/MjEzM2Q4 19:47 gmcharlt I've set it as a blocker for now 19:46 wizzyrea_ well I think it's sufficently apt to happen that it is warranted to do so 19:46 wizzyrea_ k 19:46 brendan or even change the setting to blocker 19:45 brendan wizzyrea_ add any comments to that 19:45 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4201 major, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Holds priority listings assigning large numbers 19:45 brendan bug 4201 19:42 wizzyrea_ now for something completely different: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFNG-sxLnM8&feature=player_embedded 19:41 wizzyrea_ ok good then I'm not nuts 19:40 brendan I get similar results from the same setup 19:40 wizzyrea_ so you do or don't get the same results as me, brendan 19:38 brendan heh 19:38 * brendan too 19:32 wizzyrea_ well crap that's the same as what I'm using 19:31 brendan :) 19:31 brendan peeking - looks to be firefox os X 19:31 brendan gmcharlt stepped out for a minute 19:28 wizzyrea_ for testing? 19:28 wizzyrea_ gmcharlt: you using some flavor of linux + firefox? 19:27 gmcharlt and have it calculate the correct priority on the fly 19:27 gmcharlt I'm going to noodle around with having reserve/placerequest.pl *not* accept what the browser passes as the priority 19:27 sekjal more work than just finding the root of the problem, probably 19:26 gmcharlt and would break rather a lot of other stuff 19:26 gmcharlt no, too drastic 19:24 sekjal perhaps a syspref to disable priority as a concept.... just prioritize by date. that'd work for a lot of libraries, wouldn't it? until this can get fixed 19:24 wizzyrea_ if we can actually prove it's broken 19:24 wizzyrea_ it would be better if it were fixed though 19:24 wizzyrea_ lol yea 19:23 brendan I'd reply - quick smoking stuff then 19:23 brendan heh -- that came out funny 19:23 brendan yeah true -- it's just if patrons are looking at their priority they may ask why am I so high? 19:23 wizzyrea_ sh. I'm being quiet now 19:22 wizzyrea_ at least not for us 19:22 wizzyrea_ tbh, the priority list isn't that important as long as they're going to the right person in the right order 19:21 wizzyrea_ lol in an ironic looking for a cliff to leap off of kind of way 19:21 wizzyrea_ lol 19:21 wizzyrea_ maybe it's just me then 19:21 wizzyrea_ well 19:21 wizzyrea_ ok 19:21 wizzyrea_ !! 19:20 gmcharlt wizzyrea_: hmm - it stopped failing for me 19:19 wizzyrea_ which would be infuriating for all involved 19:19 wizzyrea_ because maybe mine's just messed up 19:18 wizzyrea_ does yours behave differently? 19:14 wizzyrea_ nope :( http://screencast.com/t/ZmZiMzliNG 19:13 wizzyrea_ yep sec 19:12 brendan Wizzyrea_ can you try and del that hold from the opac and see if all the priorities go back in line 19:12 brendan hmm.. so we've got wackiness when you change the location, wackiness when someone just places a regular hold... 19:12 wizzyrea_ http://screencast.com/t/Y2IwMTBjY 19:11 wizzyrea_ brendan, I got the same thing from the OPAC (this is from ages ago) changing the pickup location mucked it up 19:08 wizzyrea_ bad! 19:08 wizzyrea_ lol I"m going to KKK11! 19:08 brendan ewh - to many k's in a row 19:08 wizzyrea_ oh lordy 19:08 brendan KanKohaKon11 19:07 wizzyrea_ hehe 19:06 schuster I like this one for the Kan comments - KanKoha...;) 18:45 chris bbiab 18:44 chris right bus time 18:41 seneca oh, thanks chris 18:41 chris a left join, and then find the nulls 18:41 seneca I'm sure I can grock together the SQL command from that info 18:41 chris i may have just written that in postgres syntax not mysql, but you get the drift 18:41 chris seneca: select biblio.biblionumber,biblio.title from biblio left join items on biblio.biblionumber = items.biblionumber where items.itemnumber is null; 18:41 seneca very good to know 18:40 jwagner biblionumber is the linking field between biblio, biblioitems, and items. 18:40 seneca ok, biblionumber is what I'm looking for, though, eh. Cool, that's a good first step. Thanks! 18:39 jwagner seneca, I don't know the SQL, but I'll bet someone else does. Basically, you want to select everything from biblio table where biblionumber is not contained in biblioitems or items. 18:39 seneca jwagner: I'm kinda looking around the database now and nothing's jumping out at me yet - is there a way to do a search for such items in the staff client? 18:39 wizzyrea_ ya, sec 18:39 gmcharlt I've tried it both ways 18:38 wizzyrea_ gmcharlt: on the first one you try or subsequent holds? 18:38 seneca yep 18:38 jwagner seneca, you're looking for titles with no items attached? 18:37 wizzyrea_ is there something terribly wrong there? 18:37 wizzyrea_ here are my holds prefs 18:37 wizzyrea_ http://screencast.com/t/YzJjNzBjYjY 18:36 gmcharlt heh 18:36 wizzyrea_ !! 18:36 brendan oh man wizzyrea_ way to add more to it :) 18:36 wizzyrea_ no way! 18:36 gmcharlt wizzyrea_: still can't reproduce :( 18:36 seneca Anyone know where/what I would look for in the mysql database to find all those records with no items and delete them all there? 18:35 wizzyrea_ after reorganizing the priorities 18:35 seneca (I think the old system didn't REALLY delete things when it said it did) 18:35 wizzyrea_ when I changed my pickup location 18:35 wizzyrea_ brendan: I haven't actually gotten my OPAC hold to show up at all in the staff side 18:35 seneca Having imported most of my records from another system, I've got many records for items that no longer exist in the library 18:34 seneca Greetings all! 18:30 wizzyrea_ It's like Speed Matching 18:30 brendan second dirty thing said today 18:30 * owen mutters, "Filthy data, we hates it" 18:29 sekjal on to Matching Dirty Data 18:28 wizzyrea_ Kan we not Kan anymore? 18:28 wizzyrea_ KanFind 18:28 chris sekjal: ah yeah that would be an interesting one 18:28 wizzyrea_ KanEd 18:28 wizzyrea_ KanGuard 18:28 wizzyrea_ man, you should live in kansas... everything is Kan(insert here) 18:27 owen I don't have time to say whole words!!! 18:27 wizzyrea_ j/k j/k 18:27 wizzyrea_ shortened to XCat, of course. Librarians love their acronyms. 18:26 sekjal hey, chris. currently listening to eXtensible Catalog talk. very interesting 18:25 wizzyrea_ was better than what you would have gotten, something off of my "chill" soundtrack 18:25 brendan but I'm interested in the next talk 18:24 brendan good been spending more time here then listening 18:24 chris hiya brendan, hows code4lib going 18:24 brendan morning chris 18:24 wizzyrea_ pft 18:23 owen wizzyrea_: I give you high marks for the video, but the soundtrack was lacking. 18:23 wizzyrea_ I tell you, he is having an existential crisis 18:23 munin wizzyrea_: Error: "be" is not a valid command. 18:23 wizzyrea_ @ be 18:20 schuster let me at it, me an munin are buds ya know I can drive him mad... 18:20 wizzyrea_ http://screencast.com/t/NWU1MDMy 18:20 wizzyrea_ it's when it prompts you that "logged in location is different from home location" 18:20 wizzyrea_ I got it! 18:19 * gmcharlt prepares some popcorn 18:18 wizzyrea_ moving video! 18:18 wizzyrea_ 1s 18:18 wizzyrea_ I will screencast it for you 18:18 wizzyrea_ interesting, because I can do it every time 18:18 wizzyrea_ lol 18:18 chris http://stats.workbuffer.org/ircstats/ 18:17 chris wizzyrea_: you are closing in on 10,000 lines in irc .. don't stop now :) 18:17 gmcharlt wizzyrea_: alas, light dims - I'm not able to reproduce the priority changing when I changing the pickup location from the staff bib details page 18:12 wizzyrea_ now* 18:12 wizzyrea_ christ. I will stop talking onw 18:12 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4234 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Automatic transfer shouldn't take precedence over a hold transit 18:12 wizzyrea_ bug 4234 18:12 wizzyrea_ I was thinking of 4234 18:11 wizzyrea_ my brain is awash I'm not sure how you keep it all straight 18:11 wizzyrea_ no, that's not the one I was thinking of >.< 18:11 wizzyrea_ er 18:10 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3595 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Items seen at checkin should always go to 1st priority hold 18:10 brendan bug 3595 18:10 wizzyrea_ and it's confusing 18:10 wizzyrea_ gmcharlt re 3595, a syspref that controls which message shows up re: transits would be good, because right now it shows both 18:09 gmcharlt hmm - may need to add a reserves.id for 3.2, then, to avoid that kind of change 18:08 gmcharlt wizzyrea_: light dawns 18:03 brendan any overdue luck? 18:03 brendan hi nelsonf 18:03 gmcharlt but I'll cobble up yet another syspref :) 18:03 gmcharlt as some libraries need the hold_fill_targets to take precedence to minimize transits 18:02 wizzyrea_ always, lol 18:02 gmcharlt it's more complicated 18:02 gmcharlt wizzyrea_: re 3595 - not yet 18:01 wizzyrea_ okies, gimme a sec 18:00 brendan just adjust the priorities so they are all normal 18:00 wizzyrea_ normal = delete all the holds? 17:59 brendan I've done that and that knocks it out of wack too 17:59 brendan ok set it all back to normal and place a hold for that patron from the opac 17:59 wizzyrea_ let me do it again... 17:59 wizzyrea_ CHANGED THE PICKUP LOCATION, and the ones I changed the pickup location for all are priority 1 17:59 wizzyrea_ placed a hold on the normal holds tab 17:58 wizzyrea_ What I did: 17:58 wizzyrea_ brendan: I just made it happen! 17:57 nengard be back 17:57 nengard time for lunch 17:57 * tekonivel calls it a day 17:57 tekonivel there's /nooo/ way to translate "at" from english to finnish.... 17:56 wizzyrea_ blerg, I must not be creative enough to make this stuff die. Or I follow the rules too well. 17:55 nengard it was a question I got while training today - never thought about asking :) 17:54 nengard goofy boy 17:53 wizzyrea_ so cute and tiny! 17:53 brendan they create little codabar-39's 17:53 wizzyrea_ i know lol 17:52 wizzyrea_ well, when a codabar and a UPC-E really love each other... 17:52 * brendan kind of humour 17:52 brendan that was for all :) 17:52 * wizzyrea_ reminds brendan that nothing in #koha is secret 17:51 brendan of course the barcodes come from the barcode stork 17:51 * brendan secretly wants to answer nengard's barcode question with "well nengard it's time for the barcode stork conversation" 17:51 * tekonivel woders what is an "aperture card" 17:46 schuster In looking at opac-reserve.tmpl - activating the copy list is forced by an "on click"... 17:46 schuster If I wanted to force copy specific holds - ... rather than bib level where should I start? 17:38 tekonivel long day 17:38 tekonivel after that there's some reading and emails to do 17:38 tekonivel some more translation... i'm trying to work up to 50% today 17:31 wizzyrea_ a preferences export 17:31 wizzyrea_ you know what would be super helpful 17:30 wizzyrea_ i may be crazy but it doesn't seem like it's broken anymore... will have to check again. 17:30 nengard you can always tell when i'm doing training - those are the days i enter 100 bugs ;( 17:29 wizzyrea_ gmcharlt did you fix 3595? was that part of the stuff you did over the weekend? 17:15 wizzyrea_ nope, just me 17:14 gmcharlt it'll be easier on us poor programmers :) 17:14 wizzyrea_ except for the initial wtf of why did henry get it and not sharon 17:14 wizzyrea_ xmas in the big house is working perfectly though 17:14 wizzyrea_ i'm trying to lol 17:13 gmcharlt the reason I'm asking is if (for completely new holds) is if you can reproduce all by yourself 17:13 brendan nope 17:13 wizzyrea_ ...you don't suppose it is caused by using a single sign on 17:12 wizzyrea_ if I can't reproduce it I'll give you all logins and permission to go to town ;) 17:12 gmcharlt ok 17:12 wizzyrea_ at the same time 17:12 wizzyrea_ at the moment, and yes, friday we had 3 people doing stuff 17:11 gmcharlt wizzyrea_: one thing about your testing - are you the only one actively working with holds in your test database? 17:07 wizzyrea_ on the brightside: http://screencast.com/t/ZDBjMzEzYW 17:07 sekjal mmmm, Code4Lunch 17:02 wizzyrea_ it is probably related somehow 17:01 wizzyrea_ well, all of it really 17:01 munin 04Bug 3595: normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Items seen at checkin should always go to 1st priority hold 17:01 wizzyrea_ part of bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3595 16:59 wizzyrea_ then it goes back to one 16:59 wizzyrea_ there's a weird thing where if you ignore the hold for 1 priority, the next time the item is seen it goes to #2, while #1 is still technically #1 16:59 sekjal ah. that seems a little more plausible, given the increased complexity 16:59 gmcharlt transiting => bad priorities, perhaps? 16:59 wizzyrea_ filling and moving, possibly ignoring holds 16:58 wizzyrea_ that the problem happens in the process of moving items about 16:58 sekjal wizzyrea_: which might be the case (former or latter)? 16:58 wizzyrea_ but I haven't reproduced it yet 16:58 wizzyrea_ but I've seen something at some point that suggests that might be the case 16:58 wizzyrea_ i'm not sure why yet 16:57 wizzyrea_ I actually suspect that, sekjal 16:57 sekjal are the holds priorities going weird when the hold is placed, or when someone else's hold is fulfilled? 16:56 wizzyrea_ right, bibs vs items 16:55 gmcharlt it will fall back to filling that request 16:55 gmcharlt but if item not being checked in isn't specifically target to a hold request, but can fill it 16:54 gmcharlt hold fill target is checked first - if an item is allocated for a specific hold, it's supposed to be used/tranisted to fill that hold 16:54 gmcharlt when items are pulled 16:54 gmcharlt build_holds_queue generates picklist and current hold fill target map 16:53 gmcharlt and the current hold fill target is taken into count 16:53 wizzyrea_ which in turn influences the placement, albeit indirectly 16:51 gmcharlt right - they influence the picklist 16:50 wizzyrea_ er, I guess what you're telling me is that all item placements are triggered by checkin 16:50 wizzyrea_ ? 16:50 wizzyrea_ so an item placement triggered by checkin doesn't follow those rules 16:50 gmcharlt and (for the randomize setting) to mix the order up 16:49 gmcharlt to specify which libraries are preferred sources of items to fill hold requests 16:48 gmcharlt they're used only by the holds queue cronjob 16:48 wizzyrea_ we've always been a bit fuzzy about how that works 16:47 wizzyrea_ I wonder about StaticHoldsQueueWeight and RandomizeHoldsQueueWeight 16:46 wizzyrea_ here's the holds policy: http://screencast.com/t/YzJjNzBjYjY 16:41 gmcharlt yeah - a summary at the end would be good - also need the state of all of the holds sysprefs 16:41 sekjal right 16:41 wizzyrea_ b/c I don't want to spam 16:40 wizzyrea_ not in this channel though >.> 16:40 sekjal cool 16:40 wizzyrea_ yea, I'm trying to document every step 16:40 sekjal which will point to code, etc. 16:40 sekjal it seems to me that the first trick is to figure out when the priority value is being mis-assigned, from a workflow process level 16:38 wizzyrea_ from the ones I've done today 16:38 wizzyrea_ the ordered screengrabs are in #kohakansas (just keeping my thoughts in order there) 16:38 wizzyrea_ no, some of them are from last friday, I'm working one from today 16:38 gmcharlt wizzyrea_: are all of the hold requests we're looking at news ones that you created for testing today? 16:37 gmcharlt er, round and round we go 16:37 sekjal gmcharlt: right, no calculation in the display. But priority has to be figured out somewhere... perhaps the initial assignment is erroroneous 16:35 gmcharlt sekjal: it's taking priority directly from reserves.priority, it's not attemping a calculation 16:34 wizzyrea_ http://screencast.com/t/YTk3ZDc3MT 16:34 wizzyrea_ here's casey's holds priority 16:33 sekjal wizzyrea_: it's super neat, and mega helpful 16:33 wizzyrea_ I love screencast. it's so fast. 16:32 sekjal wizzyrea_: it's looking like that, yes. perhaps somehow the total number of holds is getting put into the priority field... 16:32 gmcharlt heh 16:32 wizzyrea_ premature paste :P 16:32 wizzyrea_ http://screencast.com/t/YzVjMDJiNjE 16:32 wizzyrea_ sry 16:32 wizzyrea_ er 16:32 gmcharlt ? same as the previous screenshot 16:32 wizzyrea_ http://screencast.com/t/NzU3YzIxZm 16:32 wizzyrea_ dogsong 16:31 gmcharlt assuming, of course, that there are actually that many requests on that title 16:31 gmcharlt so in theory could be 16th in line for dogsong 16:31 wizzyrea_ i mean, the erroneous numbers 16:31 gmcharlt priority is per hold request 16:30 wizzyrea_ you can see the one is waiting 16:30 wizzyrea_ the numbers must be based on the max number of holds in the system 16:30 wizzyrea_ there are several with this patron that have gone funny 16:30 wizzyrea_ http://screencast.com/t/NzU3YzIxZm 16:29 brendan or you can click on the name and it will show you the priority number listed under the patron's holds 16:29 brendan you can see them in teh database 16:28 brendan before you move that one around can you look at the priorities for both of those one's listed as 1 16:28 gmcharlt how are you getting to that point? 16:28 gmcharlt having two requests as priority one is an issue 16:28 brendan wizzyrea that first screen shot with priority's listed as 3, 1, 1 is what we are seeing 16:27 wizzyrea_ http://screencast.com/t/OTQ2M2E2YmIt 16:26 kf bye :) 16:26 wizzyrea_ http://screencast.com/t/M2YxMzk2 16:26 wizzyrea_ these are a set: http://screencast.com/t/ZTBjNzlk 16:20 wizzyrea_ :D 16:20 * gmcharlt is preaching to the choir, of course 16:20 gmcharlt if you can go through a sequence of creating a number of holds that result in a glitch, then repeat it, that would be golden 16:19 wizzyrea_ yea, I'm in process of doing that 16:19 gmcharlt wizzyrea_: tracing the process would help 16:17 sekjal for this holds priority issue: can we tell if it happens when placing multiple holds at once, only when holds are done singly, or in both cases? 16:13 wajasu My distribution's package manager pacman complains about the conflict and stops the install. I may have to "force" it to overwrite. 16:11 wajasu They are different. 16:10 wajasu i'm trying to install a perl module HTTP:OAI and it depends on XML::SAX::Base. But I already have XML::LibXML installed which depends on XML::SAX. Both contain /usr/lshare/perl5/vendor/XML/SAX/Base.pm. 16:04 sekjal that probably doesn't mean much, but every little bit of data helps! 16:03 wizzyrea_ no, I don't 16:03 sekjal wizzyrea_: and I assume you don't have any holds with priority > 75 16:03 wizzyrea_ yes 16:03 gmcharlt *bits 16:03 gmcharlt wizzyrea_: to confirm, the bibs you're testing from my holds bugfix branch? 16:03 wizzyrea_ re:holds 16:03 wizzyrea_ 3.01.00.124 (and this has some of gmcharlt's newest stuff on it, too) 16:02 wizzyrea_ in this system, probably fewer than 75 total 16:02 wizzyrea_ then, a centervill item went to the 1st centerville patron (listed 1) 16:01 sekjal wizzyrea_: how many holds do you have in your system all told? and what version of the code are you running? 16:00 wizzyrea_ because I just checked in a springfield book and it went priority 1 (incorrectly) to a springfield patron 16:00 wizzyrea_ or is there a pref that does that? 15:59 wizzyrea_ it's not matching item home location to patron home location above all else is it? 15:59 wizzyrea_ hm 15:59 gmcharlt we're listening to rsinger, so we have an excuse for not actually talking too each other right now ;) 15:58 wizzyrea_ hee 15:58 gmcharlt hi brendan 15:58 brendan hi gmcharlt 15:58 brendan funny things is I am sitting right next to gmcharlt 15:57 brendan from tracing through things right now.. not finding any issues on _Fixpriority 15:57 gmcharlt (or if it is, that's a bug, at least the way it's designed to operate now) 15:57 gmcharlt the holds queue job doesn't change hold priorities 15:54 brendan ok thanks 15:54 wizzyrea_ but I also probably don't have more than 100 holds on this system 15:53 wizzyrea_ I don't have any of those 15:53 brendan wizzyrea, select distinct biblionumber from reserves where priority > '100'; 15:53 wizzyrea_ well I'm trying to test if the hold queue job puts them right again 15:52 gmcharlt yea, I don't think we've nailed down exactly when it is occurring 15:50 owen I know brendan has been looking into it for us but I don't know how much progress he has made 15:50 owen That's what I expect to see on those titles with multiple number ones. I was seeing priorities like "1, 2, 435, 736, 1203" 15:49 wizzyrea_ (we dont have a lot going on, this is totally test data) 15:48 wizzyrea_ like, 12, 14, 16 15:48 wizzyrea_ hm, what am I looking for? I have some weirdly high ones on titles that only have a couple of holds 15:45 wizzyrea_ idk, lemme look 15:45 owen wizzyrea_: What does the reserves table say about the priority numbers? 15:45 wizzyrea_ this is what a 3.2 list looks like before the holds queue has run 15:44 wizzyrea_ http://screencast.com/t/YzE2OGI0Mm 15:44 * owen likes to glace at the list during slow times if he's working at the desk 15:44 wizzyrea_ remember your question about the weird orders of holds? 15:44 owen Every couple of hours, although most librarians don't check it so often. 15:43 wizzyrea_ owen: how often do you run your holds queue? 15:41 wizzyrea_ we will knock these holds out yet 15:41 wizzyrea_ the waiting status, but this list used to be so spartan 15:41 wizzyrea_ that's a new thing galen just added 15:40 wizzyrea_ and I love how this is shaping up 15:40 wizzyrea_ at the moment I'm looking at http://screencast.com/t/ZTBhYjljYTE 15:40 owen I'm always on the lookout for rough edges 15:39 owen You're very welcome 15:39 wizzyrea_ owen: I can't thank you enough for all of the cleanup you've done in the staff interface, it looks really, really nice. 15:25 tekonivel 45% of OPAC translated; time to restart the rotted Firefox and have a glass of water 15:20 wajasu hdl_laptop: i removed perl-xml-libxml and perl-xml-sax, which cleaned up things. Then I added HTTP::OAI and when it goes to install a dependency perl-xml-sax-base, and has conflicting files with perl-xml-sax. (my dist is archlinux) 15:16 sekjal yeah, I think I prefer this channel... 15:15 wizzyrea_ they are snarktastic in there 15:14 wizzyrea_ the code4lib channel is hopping :P 15:13 sekjal talking about sharing infrastructure between multiple installs of multiple tools. 15:11 sekjal jwagner: first presentation after keynote 15:11 jwagner sekjal, _cloud_ 4Lib? New conference??? Or just clouding their minds :-) 15:10 wizzyrea_ woot! 15:09 sekjal Koha logo is front and center in cloud4Lib presentation. yay! 15:05 wizzyrea_ almost as funny, but not quite. 15:04 tekonivel John 15:04 * wizzyrea_ is giggling madly 15:04 wizzyrea_ please tell me his name isn't richard 15:04 wizzyrea_ ... poor friend 15:04 tekonivel he's usalandian 15:04 tekonivel well, i have a friend who's last name is Fail 15:04 tekonivel (pls simmer) 15:03 * tekonivel is boiling 15:03 wizzyrea_ they are norwegians 15:03 wizzyrea_ oh, and this will bake your noodle 15:03 wizzyrea_ though I knew a kid in HS whose last name was "norland" 15:03 tekonivel not the "land of nor" 15:03 * owen thinks of Calvin and "known girl" Susie Derkins. 15:02 tekonivel "norway" is more abstract... the "way of the nor" 15:01 wizzyrea_ everyone knows all girls have cooties, owen. 15:01 owen wizzyrea_: What about cooties? 15:00 * wizzyrea_ does not have the pox. 15:00 tekonivel anyone here know esperanto? were these issues considered when it was constructed? 15:00 wizzyrea_ and 15:00 * wizzyrea_ has no interest in squaws 14:59 tekonivel i've understood "ire" is some sort of ugly, agressive thing 14:58 wizzyrea_ lol 14:58 tekonivel wizzyrea_: i wonder where that comes from 14:58 tekonivel ok pls let's not get to that... 14:58 wizzyrea_ why aren't the english the engs? 14:58 tekonivel wizzyrea_: but pls give me some glass-pearls, a pox and steal my squaw ;) 14:57 tekonivel wizzyrea_: *ouch* 14:57 wizzyrea_ which seems fitting 14:57 wizzyrea_ which phonetically sounds in my mind like "use a land" 14:57 tekonivel no wait, that doens't work xD 14:57 tekonivel englang=land of english; ireland=land of the ire; usaland=land of people from USA 14:56 collum Amazing. There's actually a wikipedia article on "names for U.S Citizens' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_for_U.S._citizens 14:56 wizzyrea_ s/fin/finn 14:56 wizzyrea_ finnish sounds to me like "I'm kind of like a fin. Sorta." 14:56 tekonivel kind of odd, i think... 14:56 tekonivel so finland is "the land of finns" 14:56 tekonivel some say "a finn" 14:55 wizzyrea_ you are finnish 14:55 tekonivel finlandian, i guess... :) 14:55 wizzyrea_ yes, actually :) 14:55 imp wizzyrea_: does it work inside the US too? ;) 14:55 tekonivel wizzyrea_: yup 14:55 tekonivel or "an internal war" or whate4ver 14:55 wizzyrea_ oh you are from finland! 14:54 tekonivel we finns aren't sure if we had a "war of independece", "war of brothers" or "war of liberty" in 1917 14:54 wizzyrea_ at least that was my experience 14:54 wizzyrea_ and they immediately nod and say "Ok, I can place you" 14:54 wizzyrea_ and toto 14:54 wizzyrea_ all a kansan has to say outside the US is, I'm from kansas. Like dorothy 14:53 wizzyrea_ lol 14:53 jwagner wizzyrea_, using the Free-Stater identity would require a lesson in the American Civil War. Or as people in Virginia refer to it (STILL), the War of Northern Agression. I'm glad I don't live in Virginia any more.... 14:53 wizzyrea_ ^.^ 14:53 tekonivel wizzyrea_: IRC is not telepathy? i've been fooled! 14:52 wizzyrea_ well I don't know you well enough to communicate telepathically ;) 14:52 tekonivel wizzyrea_: i thought you might ;) 14:52 wizzyrea_ tekonivel: I'm not sure how it would work 14:52 wizzyrea_ who even knows what that means anymore 14:52 tekonivel wizzyrea_: i wonder if that would help... does telepathy convey language or pure emotions/experiences? 14:51 wizzyrea_ that's like me saying I'm a Free-Stater 14:51 wizzyrea_ lol 14:51 jwagner But that lacks the panache! 14:51 wizzyrea_ jwagner: but you could say "I'm from Indiana" 14:51 jwagner No, just communicate in binary -- it's only ones and zeros! 14:51 wizzyrea_ lol, we should all learn to communicate telepathically 14:51 tekonivel jwagner: yeah Hoosier sure would confuse me 14:50 tekonivel the point of this discussion being (on my part), that language is such a sloppy construct... 14:50 tekonivel norway is europe, but not EU 14:50 tekonivel otoh, sometimes "european" or "people from the EU countries" are mixed 14:49 jwagner wizzyrea_, that might not work. Telling people I'm a Hoosier is likely to leave them even more confused :-) Besides, I've lived longer outside Indiana than I lived in it by now.... 14:48 wizzyrea_ I'm kansan first :P 14:48 tekonivel owen: lol, that Brazilian guy who got executed in the London metro shouldn't shouted that :) 14:48 wizzyrea_ welp. Guess we're gonna have to find a new name for our country, owen. 14:47 tekonivel owen: yeah, no ambiquity, but that's exacly what bothers me 14:47 owen "Don't shoot, I'm an American!" 14:47 * jwagner would NEVER pick on owen! 14:47 tekonivel wizzyrea_: and prefably "United States of American passport"... other united stats might be out there too :) 14:47 jwagner And people from Mexico are usually referred to as Mexicans. I think general usage of American means people from the U.S. 14:47 owen But everyone understands "American passport" to mean a United States passport. There's no ambiguity about it in my experience. 14:47 wizzyrea_ what is this, pick on owen day? psh. 14:46 tekonivel owen: lol they'd prefer to be referred to as "le canadiennes" ;) 14:46 wizzyrea_ you would get a United States passport :P 14:46 wizzyrea_ for one, you wouldn't get an american passport 14:46 tekonivel s/partport/passport/ 14:46 tekonivel jwagner: exactly 14:45 tekonivel if i had "an american passport", which partport would it be? 14:45 jwagner owen, I think you just made the point -- you referred to Canadians. 14:45 owen I suspect many Canadians would not like being referred to as "Americans" 14:45 owen I would have to defer to a Canadian on the matter. I've never heard the terms used any differently. 14:44 tekonivel it's like "european" would mean only people from Finland 14:44 tekonivel i think that kind of sucks 14:44 tekonivel but just "american" mean from USA 14:44 owen "North American" would mean US or Canada. 14:43 tekonivel owen: there isn't much of a collective there... 14:43 tekonivel owen: lol that's a good point 14:43 tekonivel owen: yeah, but there's Canada too. And the continent of NA is quite different than the nation that happens to cover large parts of it at this time and age 14:42 owen I've never heard of a context in which people from North and South American were spoken of collectively. 14:42 owen I would think "American" is generally understood to mean "from the USA," but "North American" or "South American" would be the general terms 14:41 tekonivel ...word 14:40 tekonivel "usaian" isn't a work 14:40 tekonivel that reminds me; i hope there was a way to say "a person from USA", that waas not the work "american" because there's plenty of America outside of USA (even outside NAFTA) 14:38 tekonivel owen: yeah Chomsky! 14:38 owen Noam Chomsky? 14:38 tekonivel owen: lol not him 14:38 owen Stephen Colbert. ;) 14:37 tekonivel also who's that contemporary philosopher from USA who's written about language, politics and power 14:36 tekonivel Orwell, Wittgenstein, Sokrates and Agricola are present right here with me :) 14:36 tekonivel it's interesting work 14:35 tekonivel owen: yeah 14:34 owen That implies that there is a circulation desk *and* that library policy requires that patrons set up their passwords in person. 14:34 tekonivel they intermix OPAC user interface with the functions the library actually provides 14:34 owen "If you don't have a password yet, stop by the circulation desk the next time you're in the library. We'll happily set one up for you." 14:33 owen Those opac messages are problematic for many people 14:32 tekonivel so i'm tempted to translate "contact the circulation desk" to just "concact the library" 14:32 tekonivel besides a lot of the functions can be done online or over the phone 14:32 tekonivel also Koha talks about circulation desks, but it's basically a meaningless concept in small libraries because there's only one desk 14:31 tekonivel that's something like a "a person of library" 14:31 tekonivel f.ex. Koha has hardcoded strings that talk about "a librarian". However in Finland "a librarian" excludes anyone with a worktitle "library assistant". no generic term for everyone working in a library exists in our language, though i've been simply talking about "kirjastolainen" 14:29 tekonivel all sorts of thoughts cross my mind while translating 14:26 magnus probably... ;-) 14:26 tekonivel magnus: there are only so many Pasi K:s interested in Koha in this small country :) 14:25 tekonivel magnus: yeah i'm sure 14:22 magnus probably the same as the PasiK i've seen on the lists, then 14:20 tekonivel he's at Oulu University, but i haven't yet discussed with him what have been his motivations 14:19 tekonivel magnus: no wait, Pasi Korkalo 14:18 tekonivel magnus: sure, it's Pasi Korkeila 14:18 tekonivel paul_p: yeah certainly they don't, and here the organization of public libraries is so spread out a lot of the municipalities have their libraries ran by basically a handful of ppl, and they're no programmers 14:18 magnus interesting! do you know who that guy is? 14:17 tekonivel at least some of it 14:17 tekonivel well, i guess he got paid for it too 14:17 tekonivel magnus: he also translated (at least parts) of Koha 2, as a hobby 14:17 tekonivel magnus: no company provides Koha support, basically one guy has been actively speaking about it and doing installations 14:17 paul_p tekonivel: sounds fair : libraries don't always have an internal IT team 14:16 magnus way to go, tekonivel! 14:16 tekonivel paul_p: yeah, libraries (at least here) don't do any moves if they cant't get (paid) support 14:15 tekonivel i'm not a Koha-fundamanetalist by no means, but we've basically got Axiell hegemony here so i'm (/we're) trying to fuel the discussion and not let it die down 14:15 paul_p tekonivel: a company giving support is a BIG boost. Look at Koha adoption in France. Why is it so important ? because we started supporting very early 14:15 magnus wow, thanks! i would certainly not turn away customers, but of course i don't speak finnish... 14:14 tekonivel i've been pointing some finnish libraries your way (i don't know if you do internation business), but i hope more Kohas would appear here too 14:14 magnus any companies in Finland, or everyone just doing things themselves? 14:14 magnus at least they can't blame lack of support for not looking into it 14:13 magnus i sure hope so! ;-) 14:13 tekonivel magnus: i'm sure that has an impact on libraries' willingness to adopt Koha 14:13 magnus hehe 14:13 tekonivel magnus: yeah i figured :) 14:13 magnus that's me! ;-) 14:12 tekonivel magnus: you've got a norwegian company giving support for Koha 14:12 magnus but at least there would be some interested people, and i guess more koha people will be coming from "outside" besides me 14:12 tekonivel magnus: maybe situation has changed by ELAG :) 14:12 tekonivel magnus: about 5, very few of which are in production (not to mention online) 14:11 tekonivel magnus: not that there'd be very many Koha installations in Finland though 14:11 tekonivel magnus: u jeah 14:11 tekonivel also, it's automation stuff mostly, which in itself is of only utilitarist value 14:11 magnus perhaps we could have a koha meetup? 14:10 magnus me neither, but i've heard a lot of good things about it 14:10 * tekonivel has never attended, though 14:10 tekonivel and such a history thhey've got 14:09 tekonivel magnus: yeah i think ELAG is one of the most interesting library conferences 14:09 magnus the programmes are usually good, and helsinki is a nice city! 14:08 tekonivel magnus: awesome 14:07 magnus i *think* i will too 14:07 tekonivel magnus: i'll be there 14:07 magnus http://elag2010.nationallibrary.fi/ is a good reason for visiting Helsinki this year... 14:07 * brendan signs up 14:07 tekonivel owen: ELAG 2010? 14:07 brendan oh I like that idea a "Koha World Tour" 14:07 * sekjal sekjal adds Helsinki to his world clock thinger on his phone 14:06 * owen adds Helsinki to his list of stops on an imaginary Koha World Tour 14:03 tekonivel oh well 14:03 tekonivel s/copy/copy+/ 14:03 tekonivel on Pootle: i also with there was a button to accept a suggestion. now it's copy paste with mouse 14:03 munin gmcharlt: Quote #45: "<CGI988> sekjal - you are a genious!!!!! asking me about the browser!!!! yes it's the #$%$#%$#ing IE was messing my cataloguing, oh I hate miscrosoft, the evil!" (added by gmcharlt at 02:00 PM, November 05, 2009) 14:03 gmcharlt @quote random 14:03 sekjal alright, Code4Lib begins! 14:00 sekjal it was a REALLY long drive, but dry the whole way. 14:00 tekonivel owen: we've got plenty here in Helsinki :) 14:00 owen I'm glad you guys didn't have to travel through snow to get there 14:00 tekonivel sekjal: lovely! 13:58 sekjal tekonivel: it's a good time. I can make sure you get the slides and link to the video, when it's ready 13:58 brendan atz and galen stopped by also 13:58 brendan it went well 13:58 tekonivel sekjal: too bad i'm not in the position to do that :) 13:58 sekjal owen: went pretty well. Smaller group, half devs and half users in the morning, mostly all users in the afternoon 13:57 tekonivel sekjal: i should sent our system librarians there 13:57 brendan hiya owen 13:57 sekjal I'm at Code4Lib right now, and will be talking on the migration from Millennium to Koha tomorrow 13:57 * owen is sorry to have missed it 13:57 owen Hi sekjal and brendan, how did it go yesterday? 13:57 * sekjal is well aware of what's what with Innovative's Millennium 13:56 owen easy_fixes++ 13:56 tekonivel owen: cheers 13:55 tekonivel it's quite different with Innovative Millenium products, you know 13:55 tekonivel <3 13:55 * tekonivel feels open source+community development love 13:55 tekonivel uuh 13:55 tekonivel O_o 13:54 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4244 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard@myacpl.org, ASSIGNED, Use "checkouts" instead of "issues" 13:54 owen Patch for Bug 4244 submitted 13:54 * tekonivel has taken a look at Emacs po-mode 13:53 tekonivel so they're out of the game 13:53 tekonivel i guess a lot of people work offline and then upload, so Pootle doesn't gather their stats 13:52 tekonivel only 42 translations behind chrisc, more for Kaz and PSchouten 13:52 tekonivel but well worth it, i'm sure :) 13:51 tekonivel it's quite brainmelting work, though 13:51 tekonivel (i'm mace on Pootle) 13:51 tekonivel also 665 translations, i'm fourth on that list 13:50 tekonivel i've make 204 suggestions, nobody has 268 13:50 * jwagner cheers for tekonivel 13:50 tekonivel only mr./mrs./ms. nobody to beat on the Pootle stats 13:50 * tekonivel feels like a champion 13:49 tekonivel but i'm not peeking at src at this time 13:48 tekonivel kf: yeah, that'd be nice. luckily there's the line number 13:47 kf or a tooltip with string number in koha... 13:47 kf would really like that too 13:47 kf yes, this idea has been aorund for some time 13:46 tekonivel kf: yeah, propably. i'm marking it fuzzy for now 13:46 kf so probably a case for issue = checkout 13:46 tekonivel i wish pootle had direct links to the sourcecode that would spawn a new browser with or something 13:46 kf self check out 13:45 tekonivel f.ex. ../../koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/en/modules/sco/circulation.tmpl:137 seems to have moved 13:45 tekonivel however the git repository has changed since 3.0 13:44 tekonivel i'm marking all the suspicious strings as fuzzy, and will re-iterate trough them later and take a peek at the sourcecode at that time 13:44 tekonivel kf: it would be soo hard to translate without the context 13:44 tekonivel kf: yeah yeah 13:43 tekonivel end of the week, i mean! 13:43 tekonivel i'm translating all "issue"s in the meaning #3, and hope to come back to them at testing time, hopefully at the end of the list 13:43 owen I see... The self-checkout module has that instance of "today's issues." 13:43 kf its a good indicator for context sometimes 13:43 kf tekonivel: look at the template list 13:42 tekonivel library-lingo can be a tad tricky sometimes 13:42 tekonivel owen: soooo many thanks for your efforts :) 13:41 tekonivel it would mean newspapers, and journals that have arrived in the library today, not checkouts for patrons done today 13:41 tekonivel f.ex. "Today's Issues" (string number 960) 13:40 owen tekonivel: I hope so. We tried to eliminate that usage. 13:40 tekonivel i could trust the term "issue" is used only in the meaning #3 13:40 tekonivel owen: i wonder if i can count that "issue" is not used in that meaning in Koha 3 OPAC, when i'm tranalating it... 13:39 tekonivel owen: yeah... that would be meaning #2 on myt list 13:39 tekonivel also hard to google that word 13:39 owen tekonivel: It was even harder when we called "check-outs" "issues" 13:38 tekonivel it can mean 1) a problem "i have an issue" 2) an event "list of smth issued today" or a 3) issue of a subscription "a new issue of Library Journal" 13:38 magnus that word means so many different things in norwegian too... 13:37 tekonivel hard to translate "issue" 13:26 jwagner G'morning 13:26 gmcharlt hi owen 13:25 jdavidb Hi, owen! :) 13:25 owen Hi #koha 13:01 biglego morning everyone 12:56 hdl_laptop hi gmcharlt 12:55 gmcharlt hi hdl_laptop, jdavidb 12:49 jdavidb Mornin', #koha. 12:44 hdl_laptop hi kf 12:43 kf hi hdl_laptop 12:41 hdl_laptop hi 12:11 gmcharlt cool 12:09 brendan ended up talk about zebra more than anything else 12:09 brendan didn't get a chance to bug-squash 12:09 brendan it was really nice. had a few newbies so we answered questions and showed them around koha 12:08 gmcharlt brendan: how was the rest of preconference? 12:08 gmcharlt good morning 11:59 brendan morning #koha 11:39 tekonivel s/\(mended\)/&1 it/ 11:38 tekonivel if someone else mended, thanks to whoever it was :) 11:38 tekonivel chris: but fine now. if you did something about it, thanks 11:37 tekonivel chris: it was a bit b0rken yesterday 11:37 tekonivel chris: i think i was told that you're the person who can mend Pootle 10:22 hdl_laptop wajasu: have you tried deleting that ? 10:00 Ropuch Morning #koha 08:52 wajasu HTTP::OAI complains about perl-xml-sax-base: /usr/share/man/man3/XML::SAX::Base.3pm.gz exists in filesystem 08:48 wajasu i'm having problems getting HTTP::OAI , PDF::API2::Simple, and POE to install. (trying koha 3.02.00-alpha. 08:34 kf hi chris 08:34 chris hi kf 08:34 kf good morning all 08:21 munin chris: The operation succeeded. 08:21 chris @later tell fredericd http://github.com/ranginui/translate.koha.org 07:42 munin chris: The operation succeeded. 07:42 chris @later tell hdl_laptop did you see the question about 3.0.6, i see the file at download.koha.org but no announcement yet? 07:22 chris hdl_laptop: are you around? 07:21 chris man i wish i understood authorities so i could answer pauline, but that documentation may as well be written in swahili for as much sense as it makes to me 07:17 chris (-f is force .. so you can either do that, or rebase from your originmaster first) 07:12 chris nod_: git push -f 06:51 Genji whats wrong? 06:51 Genji yet if i do 'scan @attr 1=21' it always breaks all the results into words... 06:51 Genji marc21 biblio records.abs has subject:p in that line. 06:50 Genji hiya... marc field 653 is complete phrases.. subjects. 05:11 nod_ chris: any idea what push command i should use to push to my originmaster? 04:36 wajasu if code in graphicsmagick needs to change to use and API now, what does that mean for all the other apps that use libpng? must they all get tweaked? Or will there just need to be multiple versions of libpng installed? 04:34 wajasu my archlinux is at the latest libpng 1.4.0-2. But it seems the png_info struct might have changed, so this seems like a tough dependency problem. 04:31 wajasu I started to do this for the latest graphicsmagick download, and it won't build with the current PKGBUILD. There is an error in compiling for code that uses libpng. 04:30 wajasu i will adjust the version dependencies accordingly. 04:30 wajasu i just reused the graphicsmagick PKGBUILD, but run a similiar ./configure with --with-perl and cd into the appropriate subdirectory and perl Makefile.PL, and walla, just the perl stuff. 04:23 gmcharlt wajasu++ 04:17 wajasu maybe I should call it perl-perlmagick (but it supplies Magick.pm and Graphics::Magick). Oh. this is for archlinnux folks. 04:16 wajasu ok. I finally built a PKGBUILD called perl-graphicsmagick that builds a Graphics::Magick module for the corresponding graphicsmagick package. I guess i should call it perl-graphicsmagick. (debian calls theirs perlmagick) 03:23 Amit heya galen 03:23 gmcharlt hi Amit 03:23 Amit hi brendan, chris 03:23 Amit hi all 02:49 Genji yet if i do 'scan @attr 1=21' it always breaks all the results into words... 02:48 Genji marc21 biblio records.abs has subject:p in that line. 02:48 Genji hiya... marc field 653 is complete phrases.. subjects.