Time Nick Message 23:40 chris_n bbl 23:24 gmcharlt ok, email sent 23:21 hdl_laptop +1 23:21 collum_ +1 for frederic 23:20 chris_n +1 # for frederic 23:19 brendan "what if the fire-department ran koha" 23:19 brendan gmcharlt -> that felt like one of those nextel commercials; the ones where "what if the fire-department ran court" 23:16 brendan sounds good to me 23:16 brendan I think that takes it :) 23:16 gmcharlt I'll send an email to the lists about this, and if anybody feels a strong desire to -1, they can do so via email 23:16 brendan heh 23:16 brendan +1 23:16 gmcharlt +1 23:15 * brendan second's frederic 23:15 gmcharlt cool 23:15 gmcharlt yeah, frederic is the sole candiate now 23:15 brendan I'll offer my services as a backup if needed :) 23:14 brendan I think there is only one person who's up for it 23:14 brendan well can't we hold it now? 23:13 chris whoops 23:13 chris heh 23:13 brendan +1 23:13 * gmcharlt just realized that we forgot to hold the vote for Translation Manager :) 22:56 imp hmm, something is wrong, norway is a little bit warmer ;) 22:56 munin imp: The current temperature in Hannover, Germany is -5.0�C (11:20 PM CET on February 10, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -7.0�C. Windchill: -10.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). 22:56 imp @wunder hannover germany 22:56 munin imp: Error: No such location could be found. 22:56 imp @wunder hannover de 22:34 munin braedon|work: The current temperature in Tauranga Aerodrome Aws, New Zealand is 23.0�C (10:00 AM NZDT on February 11, 2010). Conditions: . Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016 hPa (Rising). 22:34 braedon|work @wunder tauranga nz 22:29 munin magnus_away: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -4.0�C (10:50 PM CET on February 10, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -5.0�C. Windchill: -11.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). 22:29 magnus_away @wunder bodo, norway 22:25 munin chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 2.0�C (5:01 PM EST on February 10, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 30%. Dew Point: -14.0�C. Windchill: -3.0�C. Pressure: 29.64 in 1004 hPa (Rising). High Wind Warning in effect until 9 PM EST this evening... 22:25 chris_n @wunder 28334 22:20 brendan you should all come here --> absolutely amazing outside 22:19 Jo pooring down here to 22:19 chilts our lovely summer :) 22:18 brendan :) 22:18 brendan oooh barely... 22:18 munin chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0�C (11:00 AM NZDT on February 11, 2010). Conditions: Drizzle. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). 22:18 chris @wunder wellington nz 22:17 chris doubt it, its raining today 22:17 brendan chris ? can you beat me :) 22:17 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 16.8�C (2:12 PM PST on February 10, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Falling). 22:17 brendan @wunder 93117 22:15 brendan ah finally got a little bit of time free (will do a little log reading - then some bug squashing) 22:12 * chris_n has vim automatically remove whitespaces on save 22:12 gmcharlt chris_n: thanks 22:11 chris_n gmcharlt: I'll resubmit tomorrow 21:54 schuster well looks like that will be a tomorrow job. I'll also edit and send the check-url.pl - tomorrow. How exciting!!! 21:53 schuster gmcharlt - just sent my patch for Othername on cko - let me know if you get it. Now I will go and attempt to attach it to bugzilla. 21:23 munin gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. 21:23 gmcharlt @later tell chris_n regarding patch for 4102 - did you run it through perltidy? if so, I'd prefer that whitespace-only patches be separate from ones that change functionality or fix bugs 21:22 braedon|work so.. how is the bug squashing going all? does someone have a counter or something? 21:20 braedon|work seriously considered taking it to work a few times 21:19 braedon|work fine at home on my phenom II x4 955 :) 21:17 braedon|work not the best 21:17 braedon|work this is a p4 pc 21:17 braedon|work i don't know how i lived without multicore cpus 21:17 wizzyre_laptop hm, my mac handles hard VM tasks just fine 21:16 braedon|work give me more real cores! 21:16 braedon|work yeah 21:15 gmcharlt alas, hyperthreading helps I/O bound processes ... not at all :) 21:14 * braedon|work thinks hyperthreading is useless :P 21:12 * braedon|work is compiling Koha on a local VM - it is making his computer REALLY laggy :( 21:10 chris_n bbl 21:04 wizzyre_laptop hi jo :) 21:04 wizzyre_laptop man what a day >.< 21:04 Jo hi Liz 21:04 liz-nekls hi again 21:04 * gmcharlt welcomes wizzyrea 's clone 21:02 chris only the ones that people have sent patches for are there 21:02 chris because people have translated them 21:00 owen No fr-CA in /installer/data/mysql/, I'm not sure why only certain languages are 21:00 ebegin owen, this is good for both fr-FR and fr-CA 20:59 * owen took enough French in high school to know to look for the diacritics but not enough to actually translate 20:59 Jo couldn't see you on the list 20:59 Jo hola Chris 20:59 chris or email the translate list 20:59 chris might wanna file a bug for that 20:59 owen Lots of granular permissions not translated yet in fr-FR 20:58 ebegin gmcharlt, good point :) 20:58 gmcharlt k, just checking :) 20:57 owen gmcharlt: Yes 20:57 ebegin owen, unfortunatly, i don't speak ukranian, russian or polish :) 20:57 chris Jo: im here 20:57 gmcharlt owen: do you see the diacritics? 20:57 owen Thanks ebegin! 20:57 ebegin owen: "Réserver pour des adhérents" "Modifier la priorité des réservations" "Ajout et modifications des réservations des adhérents" 20:55 chris ? 20:55 Jo Chris C not around by the looks of this 20:54 owen "Place holds for patrons" "Modify holds priority" "Place and modify holds for patrons" 20:53 owen ebegin: Some new permissions 20:52 ebegin what has to be translated? 20:51 ebegin i'm here :) 20:51 gmcharlt but it needn't hold up the patch 20:51 gmcharlt and I see that ebegin is around 20:51 gmcharlt if they're awake, hdl_laptop are pretty quick to supply french in-channel 20:50 owen Okay. I'll do that and resubmit. 20:50 chris yup 20:50 gmcharlt yep 20:50 owen ...but copy the English strings into the other lang files? 20:50 chris yup 20:49 chris for now 20:49 chris id just do them in english then mail the koha-translate list and say, there are some new strings that need to be translated 20:49 gmcharlt another thing that needs a translation mechanism :) 20:49 chris you will need english, french, ukranian, russian and i think polish :) 20:48 chris or you can ask on koha-translate 20:48 chris and someone will translate it for you 20:48 chris just do it in english 20:48 gmcharlt yep 20:48 chris fr/mandatory et al 20:47 owen Okay. Kin? 20:47 gmcharlt owen: re 2970, need to update installer/data/mysql/en/mandatory/userpermissions.sql (and its kin) as well with the new permissions 20:46 munin 04Bug 4155: blocker, P1, ---, pianohacker@gmail.com, NEW, Can't change the language of the staff client in system preferences 20:46 chris http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4155 its on there 20:45 fredericd I fill a bug for this little bug. What's jess's email? 20:45 chris yup 20:45 gmcharlt though he's been away the past few days 20:44 chris im sure jesse can stomp them pretty fast though 20:44 chris there are a few litte bugs in it 20:43 fredericd I can see a bug in the pref editor itself with DefaultClassificationSource preference 20:43 gmcharlt fredericd: thanks 20:43 fredericd gmcharlt: no reason. It's just a cut and past... I will resubmit. 20:43 owen I hope my patch does the trick 20:43 wizzyrea if that's fixed, I will be so excited 20:42 wizzyrea 2970=win 20:42 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2970 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Create a permission for modifying holds priority 20:42 owen gmcharlt, I just sent a patch for Bug 2970. Please check it carefully since it's my first try at a database revision. 20:39 * jwagner wishes I could contribute something besides snark :-( 20:39 * gmcharlt is pleased with bug-squashing so far - the number of blockers has in fact gone down 20:32 schuster neat. 20:30 gmcharlt git status will show you what's staged to be committed 20:30 schuster ok cool. 20:30 gmcharlt only those two 20:29 schuster so after I have done the git add - only those 2 files will be in my commit or will the things prior be in the commit as well? 20:28 schuster I have specific files I want to send seperate so they can get attached to the bugs. 20:28 schuster yes I have it printed out but after the "do some work" section it only talks about if you want to submit everything you have modified. 20:25 wizzyrea schuster have you seen http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:development:git_usage 20:24 schuster Thanks - I've made notes... I also have a file for check-url.pl that works really cool 20:23 chris seems to be a bug with any syspref controlled by a checkbox 20:22 gmcharlt schuster: yep - git add file1 file2 , etc. 20:22 gmcharlt fredericd: please check email - small license issue with pref-trans - why is it Perl instead of GPL2+ ? 20:22 schuster There are 2 files that's all I have to do for those 2 items to be bundled in the patch? 20:21 schuster Last question - not sure I'll be able to do this from work but... when I do -- git addcirc/circulation.pl circulation.tmpl 20:20 wizzyrea :) 20:20 wizzyrea i figured you wouldn't be such a nub as to have that problem, but had to ask 20:19 chris ie i can change other sys prefs 20:19 chris everything else works 20:19 chris yep 20:18 wizzyrea chris: dumb question (i hit this earlier) JSON is installed right? 20:18 gmcharlt cool 20:18 chris ill file a bug and attempt to fix it 20:18 chris there is a checkbox, changes to it don't stick tho 20:17 gmcharlt en-US is good enough for the whole world! </bad_usian> 20:17 chris but frederics patch works a treat if you get in the db and change the language by hand 20:17 chris gmcharlt: found a bug in sysprefs, i cant change my language 20:17 gmcharlt and also attach the patch to the bug 20:16 gmcharlt send it to patches@Koha.org 20:16 owen braedon|work: US/Mountain I think, but he usually doesn't come in until his afternoon 20:16 gmcharlt 2nd part - after you create the patch file (using git format-patch origin) 20:16 chris_n longer descriptoin of patch++ 20:16 chris ahh found it 20:16 gmcharlt third and subsequent lines: longer descriptoin of patch 20:16 braedon|work owen: what timezone is he in? 20:16 gmcharlt second line: blank 20:16 gmcharlt first line: Bug 2930: add the other name to the CKO screen 20:16 chris what the heck 20:15 gmcharlt 1st, when you are asked to enter the commit message, format it something like this: 20:15 owen It might be too early braedon|work 20:15 gmcharlt schuster: two ways 20:15 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2930 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Put other name on CKO screen 20:15 schuster then how does it get linked to bugs.koha.org? Bug 2930 ? 20:15 braedon|work still hiding from my hug 20:15 braedon|work hmm, no pianohacker 20:14 * braedon|work tries to find the virtual snacks, but fails 20:14 * chris_n quickly hides the virtual snacks 20:13 wizzyrea oh man... i've made him mad now 20:13 nengard_ huh? what? what's going on? I was on the phone 20:12 chris_n or git commit -a 20:12 gmcharlt then git commit 20:12 gmcharlt schuster: git add circ/circulation.pl (and any other files you changed) 20:11 chris_n wizzyrea even :-) 20:11 owen chris_n: wizzyrea shelled out the extra money for NitPick Pro 20:11 schuster or should I drive nengard_ crazy and ask her directly for assistance ;) 20:11 jwagner Has she lost her zing? 20:10 jwagner wissyrea??? 20:10 * chris_n likes wissyrea's cool arrows and text balloons 20:10 gmcharlt btw, it'll be another 3-4 hours before I'm pushing patches to HEAD, but I'll try to get everything submitted today (that works!) pushed by the end of th enight 20:09 schuster Looking at the git instructions I have a question. So I have added the "Othername" feature to my 3.2 box. I should be able to git commit circulation.pl right? or can I get a quick tutorial 20:09 * jwagner goes WOW -- major wind blast and lots of snow blowing around. Couldn't see the garage there for a minute. 20:09 owen wizzyrea: Amazon.com has three pixels of padding there. Shall we do four just to prove we're better? 20:08 jwagner Yep. I feel that pickiness should be MY exclusive right! 20:08 schuster some webmistress' are just so darn picky... 20:08 jwagner And I had one site that insisted on renaming Library Catalog to Keyword in that dropdown box.... 20:07 wizzyrea :) 20:07 gmcharlt :) 20:07 wizzyrea >.< 20:07 wizzyrea don't hit me 20:06 gmcharlt better do that - we'll kill the design pedants, kill them dead, if we let that stay in! 20:05 * owen runs off to file a blocker bug 20:03 wizzyrea it's not like, dire :/ 20:03 wizzyrea http://screencast.com/t/NWY2OTZm 20:03 owen Yes 20:02 wizzyrea owen: about? 20:01 chris lemme translate it and apply that 20:01 chris sweet it makes the .po file just fine 19:56 chris ill apply the patches and give it a whirl 19:55 chris yep could do 19:55 gmcharlt chris: time to try an en-NZ syspref translation - good way of testing fredericd 's mechanism 19:52 wizzyrea k 19:52 gmcharlt but if a decent interval has passed, feel free to close after testing 19:51 nengard_ if I log off again - you know why 19:51 gmcharlt yep - submitter closing is the ideal 19:51 nengard_ oh boy - lost power - 19:51 wizzyrea kool 19:51 chris if you can test and confirm its fixed you can close 19:51 wizzyrea sweet (just looking through all open bugs for 1. one that I could fix and 2. ones that are still open that could be closed (can I close them or does the submitter have to do it?) 19:50 richard hi chris 19:50 chris hi richard 19:50 richard hi 19:50 gmcharlt wizzyrea: patch for 3655 is in HEAD 19:49 chris po files for sysprefs 19:49 chris ohhh sweet 19:44 wizzyrea there appears to be a patch 19:44 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3655 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, nahuel.angelinetti@biblibre.com, ASSIGNED, Opac and News 19:44 wizzyrea did bug 3655 ever get pushed? 19:43 chris_n nope... INT 19:42 chris_n which equals one hour 19:41 * chris_n wonders if the fine charging interval will work correctly if I enter 0.041666667? 19:40 owen So far only references to "GetRecordValue('subtitle',...)" in the code 19:40 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2918 critical, P3, ---, chris@bigballofwax.co.nz, NEW, No Place Hold Button if AllowHoldPolicyOverride OFF 19:40 chris nengard: can you check my update to bug 2918 please? 19:39 nengard I WOULD LOVE THAT!!! 19:39 gmcharlt nengard: an idea popped in my head - should we call some sort of documentation day where developments are supposed to be in channel so tha tyou can bug them for documentation? 19:38 owen Given the construction in the template, I'm assuming it has to be set up on a case by case basis: <!-- TMPL_LOOP NAME="subtitle" --> <!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="subfield" --><!-- /TMPL_LOOP --> 19:37 gmcharlt it's supposed to more general than that 19:34 owen I wonder if this keyword-to-MARC-mapping is only enabled for subtitles so far 19:33 chris yep, all nice and 404'y now 19:30 gmcharlt thx 19:30 * chris will test and close 19:30 chris thanks for pushing those patches galen 19:30 chris_n re keyword to MARC mapping 19:30 chris_n owen: http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=Koha;a=commit;h=fd75507a55ceebdbdc06fc62ead9cf376b90d570 19:15 chris dorks 19:15 chris they already did 19:15 nengard but I was a good girl 19:15 nengard chris i was going to reply - Remove yourself! 19:15 chris heh, they arent even subscribed from that email address 19:15 jwagner I used to work in a medical library. The more letters someone has after their name, the less their actual real-world skills. Or so it seemed.... 19:14 chris_n hehe 19:14 * chris fights the urge and removes them 19:14 chris that almost makes me want to subscribe them to more lists instead 19:14 chris and writes in huge red letters 19:13 * chris_n finds it interesting that someone with a Ph.D. cannot unsubscribe from the list 19:12 chris heya chris_n 19:12 chris (the fact it sends 200's not 404's makes google et al beat the hell out of the opac when it doesnt need to) 19:12 chris_n hey chris 19:12 chris did the patch for this get lost? 19:12 schuster In reality it is probably his child on the computer while dad is tied up in a chair forced to watch Disney channel - wait maybe not forced... It's pretty cute. 19:12 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3797 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris@bigballofwax.co.nz, NEW, The opac 404 page is sent with 200 headers 19:12 chris gmcharlt: bug 3797 19:09 nengard :) 19:08 owen In fact he's probably watching stuff on the DVR and deleting it before I get a chance to watch. 19:07 chris_n hehe 19:05 owen Hence, he's not contributing any work. 19:05 owen That's the me that is staying home because the weather is too bad to go out. 19:04 * chris_n finds it interesting that owen has an alter-ego today :-) 18:56 gmcharlt ultimately, yes, 18:55 chris_n gmcharlt: to digress a bit: it also seems to me that all hard coded defaults should be transformed to sysprefs 18:54 gmcharlt and one could envision want category-only limits, or branch-only limits, etc. 18:53 gmcharlt as the semantics of issuingrules is category/itemtype/branchcode 18:52 gmcharlt chris_n: although as is too often the case, there is a pushing on a string aspect to it 18:51 gmcharlt chris_n: thanks 18:49 chris_n gmcharlt: I'll do that then 18:49 fredericd it's pure insanity 18:48 fredericd I will do partial french translation afetr dining, and send a patch 18:48 gmcharlt fredericd++ 18:48 fredericd gmcharlt: I begin to have something to allow preferences text translation 18:48 gmcharlt check the appropriate issuingrules.reservesallowed values 18:48 chris_n but not in 3.2 18:48 chris_n hdl_laptop told me the other day that work they were doing would address 4045 18:48 gmcharlt the ideal fix would be to have the remaining invocations of the old maxreserves syspref 18:47 owen The circ matrix lets the librarian define limits there, but those limits are not checked anywhere in the Koha code. 18:47 owen That's what bug 4045 is all about 18:47 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4045 critical, P5, ---, cnighswonger@foundations.edu, ASSIGNED, No check for maximum number of allowed holds. 18:47 chris_n gmcharlt: so does that render bug 4045 invalid? 18:46 gmcharlt it moves down to the circ matrix level as the issuingrules.reservesallowed column 18:45 gmcharlt the intention is for maxreserves the syspref to go away 18:42 chris_n but hdl_laptop would be the one to know if other code was changed rending it useless 18:41 chris_n I think we need to add a db update to add it back 18:41 owen chris_n: But it's getting removed in updatedatabase.pl. Which one wins? 18:39 chris_n http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=Koha;a=blob;f=installer/data/mysql/en/mandatory/sysprefs.sql;h=3647715bac4655dc9eb6549ceb39b6c2a36493bc;hb=HEAD#l64 18:39 chris_n maxreserves is in the current sysprefs.sql 18:38 owen Yes 18:38 chris_n owen about? 18:37 nengard thanks gmcharlt - will test as soon as i finish the help files i'm adding now :) 18:37 gmcharlt nengard: pushed followup for 4152 18:19 ccatalfo hey there chris_n 18:18 chris_n howdy ccatalfo 18:18 nengard but i don't know the right command :) hehe 18:18 munin nengard: Error: "probably" is not a valid command. 18:18 nengard munin probably knows :) 18:17 * ccatalfo can't remember the last time i was on #koha. *sigh* 18:17 ccatalfo hey nengard! 18:17 nengard hi ccatalfo!!! 18:16 gmcharlt cool 18:15 ccatalfo hey gmcharlt. Just dropping by to watch while i'll do other work. If I have time i'll be on later tonight and might be able to contribute something then. 18:14 gmcharlt hi ccatalfo 18:02 wizzyrea k 18:02 gmcharlt not in yet 18:02 * wizzyrea is trying desperately to stomp :P 18:01 wizzyrea or it didn't fix it or... 18:01 wizzyrea http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3419 18:01 wizzyrea gmcharlt: did this patch get in? 17:56 wizzyrea oh, I like the layout changes to the inventory tool 17:53 * nengard lunching 17:51 nengard but it might be my file, so i'll try another file 17:50 nengard gmcharlt, it fixed it with everything but the csv import ... 17:49 gmcharlt the fix may or may not be relevant to the specific use case you reported (CSV import) 17:48 nengard oo - okay will try again 17:48 gmcharlt nengard: I've pushed a patch for 4152 17:45 schuster 245n 17:44 schuster chris_n - we use self check and the librarians use a low level generic login for circ and self check - it also helps because it sets the location 17:41 owen But what other bits of info require mapping there? 17:40 owen When I add a "mapping" for subtitle (245b) and the BKS framework, I get subtitle display 17:40 owen Looks like subtitle display is broken because I don't have anything defined there 17:38 nengard anything 17:38 nengard owen no! but I do need to know about it for documenting purposes - i think i emailed the list to ask for help and never heard anythng 17:38 owen nengard or anyone else, Do you know anything about "Keyword to MARC Mapping?" 17:38 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3738 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard@gmail.com, ASSIGNED, Automate login to web-based self-check system 17:38 jwagner chris_n, also see Bug 3738 for automating the login to self-check. 17:38 jwagner "sucking mouthparts"???? 17:37 munin chris_n: wn, foldoc, jargon, gcide, and moby-thes responded: gcide: Bug \Bug\ (b[u^]g), v. t. to {annoy}; to bother or pester. [PJC] Bugaboo; wn: bug n 1: general term for any insect or similar creeping or crawling invertebrate 2: a fault or defect in a system or machine [syn: {glitch}] 3: a small hidden microphone; for listening secretly 4: insects with sucking mouthparts and forewings thickened (41 more messages) 17:37 chris_n @dict bug 17:37 chris_n jwagner: that was my concern 17:36 jwagner chris_n, one reason you might want to limit it (in practice) to a single login is security. I set up a separate user with restricted permissions, rather than having a full superuser ID logged in. 17:36 owen (new to me anyway, I probably wasn't paying attention) 17:35 owen I see, new link on the Administration page, "Keyword to MARC Mapping" 17:35 jwagner I have a couple of sites that use the self-check, and they both use a single login ID for it, but there's no real reason it _has_ to be one ID. 17:34 chris_n yes 17:34 jwagner picky, picky 17:34 munin jwagner: Error: "chris_n," is not a valid command. 17:34 jwagner @chris_n, you mean the initial staff login? 17:33 chris_n is it typical practice to run the self checkout under a single account? 17:33 owen What is this new table "fieldmapping" and should it not be empty? 17:32 jwagner Depends on who was duped.... 17:30 owen Does squashing a dupe count? :P 17:28 jwagner Every time you squash one bug, two arise from the pulp? 17:28 nengard hehe 17:28 owen (jinx) 17:28 owen Today seems to be bug-finding day rather than bug-squashing day :( 17:28 nengard i know i'm supposed to be squashing bugs, not finding bugs ... but i was testing a bug that was patched and found this problem :( 17:27 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4152 blocker, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, cannot run inventory 17:27 nengard okay I updated the inventory bug report: bug 4152 with my error log to help with debugging 17:26 jwagner The hard part with combining data is standardizing policies such as item types, locations, etc. Ideally, you'd like it to be clean & tidy. 17:25 jwagner We've thought about some kind of sample data set too, just haven't done anything about it. We randomized some data from one of our sites for a demo server, but it's not ideal. 17:25 gmcharlt something between 1,000 and 5,000 bibs total would seem to be the right size 17:25 wizzyrea truf 17:25 jwagner wizzyrea, grab data from two of them. Instant multi-library :-) 17:24 wizzyrea single branch though :/ 17:24 * wizzyrea has some very small libraries currently using koha 17:24 * wizzyrea thinks about this 17:24 wizzyrea to fit with the other default data 17:24 wizzyrea and all that 17:23 wizzyrea well, you'd have to sanitize locations 17:23 wizzyrea gmcharlt I agree 17:23 gmcharlt auto-creating items is viable, sure, but having items that look like they come from a real shelflist would be nicer 17:22 gmcharlt ideally, something coming from a real library so that the items look real 17:22 gmcharlt wizzyrea: it just needs somebody to contribute a small dataset 17:22 nengard i do have an error log i'm adding to the bug report 17:22 nengard okay the tool works if i select nothing and leave it at it's default 17:21 wizzyrea on the bright side, everything looks very crispy in the staff interface, nice job owen and all 17:21 chris_n but I ran out of time 17:20 * chris_n thought about writing a script to harvest records from LOC and build items for them automagically 17:20 wizzyrea bargle. 17:20 chris_n yup 17:20 wizzyrea get data from your production serveR? 17:20 wizzyrea chris_n: what do you do for items/testing? 17:20 wizzyrea pretty much 17:19 chris_n one-click, instant library :-) 17:19 * wizzyrea grumbles 17:19 wizzyrea and it just installs everything you'd need for a demo/test install 17:19 * chris_n agrees 17:19 wizzyrea actually, there should be a checkbox: give me a fully functioning catalog with sample patrons, bibs, and items, this is for testing" 17:18 wizzyrea optional to install, of course 17:18 nengard wizzyrea - i agree 17:18 nengard Colin, i can - but the CSV is not the problem .. the problem is the report in general - it doesn't work when i don't use a CSV either 17:18 wizzyrea grr, I think (perhaps selfishly and wrongly) that there should be sample items in the sample data 17:18 Colin nengard: You may want to add AND items.barcode IS NOT NULL if you want only bcs 17:16 nengard i've added most of mine by hand 17:16 nengard the sample data doesn't have items ... i don't think 17:16 wizzyrea gah, i'm feeling so dumb today 17:16 nengard yeah - it had a bunch of barcodes in it 17:15 wizzyrea guess that would explain why I don't get any search results :( 17:15 wizzyrea I thought I imported the sample data but mayb enot 17:15 wizzyrea but, that could be my data 17:15 wizzyrea erm, that actually gave you data? because it gave me an empty file :/ 17:14 nengard maybe im' wrong and we can close it right away 17:14 nengard bug reported 17:14 nengard :( 17:14 nengard like i said - it's the same one i used 16 versions ago to document the inventory tool and it worked A-OK 17:13 nengard SELECT items.barcode FROM items LEFT JOIN biblioitems on (items.biblioitemnumber=biblioitems.biblioitemnumber) LEFT JOIN biblio on (biblioitems.biblionumber=biblio.biblionumber) WHERE items.holdingbranch='CPL' 17:13 nengard i used this sql to generate the list 17:13 wizzyrea :) 17:13 wizzyrea nm then 17:12 wizzyrea default data? 17:12 nengard you won't have the same barcodes as me 17:12 nengard wizzyrea it won't work for you - it's my barcodes :) 17:10 wizzyrea wizzyrea at gmail 17:10 wizzyrea send me your CSV and I'll try it 17:09 wizzyrea erg 17:05 nengard it's not working for any options i select and it's not working for a CSV file of barcodes - and I know it worked because i documented it 17:04 nengard can anyone get the inventory tool to work? 16:52 * owen too 16:49 * wizzyrea_ stomps 16:49 wizzyrea_ ^.^ 16:49 wizzyrea_ woot! 16:48 gmcharlt wizzyrea_: btw, it looks like bug 3648 can be used for your patch 16:48 nengard oh no :( 16:45 jwagner I've been trying for a month to get a new gas stove (heating kind, not cooking kind) installed. Finally got it scheduled for ... today. Ain't happening :-( 16:44 jwagner Looks like about 6-8 new inches out there now, still coming down. The wind is the worst -- whiteout conditions all over and snow drifting everywhere. 16:43 jwagner We could use some. Third blizzard of the winter, and the second in four days. I like winter, but enough already! 16:42 nengard jwagner looks like you get some relief before we do... 16:42 munin nengard: The current temperature in JAT Observatory, Fairless Hills, Pennsylvania is 0.2�C (11:30 AM EST on February 10, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Windchill: 0.0�C. Pressure: 29.09 in 985.0 hPa (Falling). Blizzard Warning in effect until midnight EST tonight... 16:42 nengard @wunder 19030 16:41 wizzyrea_ (thanks, that one always grated me, I had to look it up every time) 16:40 wizzyrea_ will do 16:40 gmcharlt wizzyrea_: looks good; also check INSTALL.debian-lenny and INSTALL.ubuntu 16:40 munin jwagner: The current temperature in Hollywood, College Park, Maryland is -5.4�C (11:38 AM EST on February 10, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: -7.0�C. Windchill: -12.0�C. Pressure: 29.35 in 993.8 hPa (Steady). Blizzard Warning in effect until 7 PM EST this evening... 16:40 jwagner @wunder 20740 16:39 wizzyrea_ zowie 16:38 pastebot "wizzyrea" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "proposed INSTALL.debian change" (19 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/114 16:35 wizzyrea_ The parser you are using should be at the bottom of the file, the last listed entry. Otherwise, you may get errors. 16:35 wizzyrea_ http://xml.org/sax/features/namespaces = 1 16:35 wizzyrea_ [XML::LibXML::SAX::Parser] 16:35 wizzyrea_ Example (in most cases, this example would be the correct entry to have at the bottom of the file): 16:35 wizzyrea_ I'm adding this to the install.debian, it's correct right (it always annoyed me that it told you to go edit the file, but didn't tell you what to do to it) 16:35 owen Grrr.... OPACXSLTResultsDisplay pref broken... 16:34 munin gmcharlt: Quote #31: "<@gmcharlt> but hacking Koha *should* be a restful part of any vacation ;)" (added by chris at 07:31 PM, September 02, 2009) 16:34 gmcharlt @quote random 16:33 gmcharlt owen_: transitory, fortunately 16:33 munin gmcharlt: The current temperature in FoxFire Woods, Gainesville, Florida is 6.0�C (11:30 AM EST on February 10, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: -5.0�C. Windchill: 6.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017.2 hPa (Steady). Lake Wind Advisory in effect from 9 am this morning to 7 PM this evening... 16:33 gmcharlt @wunder 32605 16:32 gmcharlt owen: still with us? 16:24 wizzyrea :D awesome thanks 16:24 gmcharlt I've now renamed the two installation components to cover upgrades 16:22 wizzyrea or installation/upgrade 16:22 wizzyrea there isn't a component for Upgrade, maybe we want one? (I'll put it under installation/command line) 16:20 wizzyrea :P 16:20 wizzyrea Ahh! I help! 16:20 gmcharlt what's missing are instructions for catching them all when you upgrade 16:20 gmcharlt it is a new requirement, and it's properly accounted for in the install scripts 16:19 wizzyrea I'll take that as a no :) will do 16:19 gmcharlt wizzyrea: ok, cool - please file a bug, assigned to me, to write up or otherwise handle instructions for installing new perl modules that were since 3.0.0 16:19 wizzyrea (I haven't looked) is that a new requirement or is it documented that you need it? 16:18 wizzyrea i installed the JSON perl module and it works now. Thanks gmcharlt for the diagnostic tip 16:17 * wizzyrea feels really dumb 16:17 wizzyrea one moment, installing that little bugger 16:15 wizzyrea >.< 16:15 wizzyrea did I not properly read the readme 16:15 wizzyrea is that a new requirement? 16:14 pastebot "wizzyrea" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "error" (1 line) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/113 16:14 wizzyrea ah ty that is illuminating 16:12 gmcharlt what do you get when you run perl -c svc/config/systempreferences ? 16:12 gmcharlt yep, svc/config/systempreferences is what actually changes syspref values 16:11 wizzyrea because that's how I found it 16:11 wizzyrea something about the searching of the sysprefs? 16:10 wizzyrea maybe this is actually the problem http://paste.workbuffer.org/112 16:09 gmcharlt and md5sum svc/config/systempreferences 16:08 gmcharlt what do you get when you run md5sum admin/preferences.pl on the server? 16:08 wizzyrea and how it looks like it's set, but if you refresh it's off 16:08 owen Interesting, I've never seen that before 16:08 wizzyrea at the bottom 16:07 wizzyrea note the message log 16:07 wizzyrea http://screencast.com/t/Yjk1NTViNW 16:07 owen Hi danielg 16:07 gmcharlt wecome danielg 16:07 danielg hi, daniel grobani at samuel merritt university here. i'll be lurking on & off during today to see what y'all are up to 16:06 wizzyrea gah 16:06 gmcharlt hmm, not having any problem twiddling that syspref 16:06 wizzyrea I suppose I could dump the db and set it again at install time 16:06 wizzyrea at least in my case 16:06 wizzyrea but if you refresh, it's not set 16:05 wizzyrea it *looks* like it sets it 16:05 wizzyrea it tells me internal server error 16:05 wizzyrea could I turn off javascript? 16:05 owen wizzyrea: You find that you can't set sysprefs? I get the error in my log but I haven't had problems saving prefs 16:05 wizzyrea nozebra 16:05 gmcharlt is it a particular syspref? 16:04 wizzyrea sooo... how does one set the sysprefs with that error? 16:02 owen thanks for looking gmcharlt. I'll have to leave it to cleverer folk than myself. 16:02 gmcharlt so that the rules for handling checks on branchcode, itemtype, and categorycode can be done consistently 16:02 gmcharlt there are several other places in C4 where queries on issuingrules ought to be replaced by a central circ rule lookup function 15:58 gmcharlt instead, something like GetIssuingRule() should be used to look up the relevant rule 15:58 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4123 critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Error in checking whether a checkout can be renewed 15:57 gmcharlt owen: re bug 4123, at first glance that big query on issuingrules shouldn't have been used in the first place 15:56 wizzyrea blerg. 15:56 wizzyrea or not 15:56 wizzyrea it looks like it changes the setting though 15:55 gmcharlt ouch - I noticed that I allowed that CanBookBeRenewed update go through including an SQL query that didn't use placeholders fro everything 15:54 owen I get that too wizzyrea 15:53 wizzyrea :( sysprefs say: [Sat Jan 30 06:41:41 2010] [error] [client 10.0.2.2] [Sat Jan 30 06:41:41 2010] preferences.pl: Use of uninitialized value $text in pattern match (m//) at /home/liz/kohaclone/admin/preferences.pl line 198., referer: http://localhost:8888/cgi-bin/koha/admin/admin-home.pl 15:51 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4123 critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Error in checking whether a checkout can be renewed 15:51 * owen would love to get someone's opinion on Bug 4123 15:50 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4141 blocker, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, reconcile 3.0.x and HEAD database updates for 3.2.0 15:50 gmcharlt ok, then it can probalby be closed now - general DB udpate issues from 3.0.x to 3.2 can be added to bug 4141 if they still exist 15:49 hdl_laptop i think it was an update problem on the database used 15:46 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3609 blocker, P5, ---, henridamien@koha-fr.org, NEW, updatedatabase from 3.0.x, new acq permissions 15:46 gmcharlt bug 3609 15:46 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3069 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Koha Z39.50 client process discussion 15:46 hdl_laptop bug 3069 15:46 gmcharlt hdl_laptop: unless I'm mistaken, I think 3609 is fixed 15:41 gmcharlt right, the you submitted was for the OPAC 15:41 nengard owen - you are right, there is another bug i need to address -i was on the staff side - where there is no warning - off to report and patch 15:40 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4009 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard@gmail.com, ASSIGNED, New list w/out title fails silently 15:40 gmcharlt OPAC in the case of bug 4009 15:39 owen OPAC or staff client? 15:39 nengard i'll checkout a copy of just that file and see if that fixes it 15:39 nengard apparently my system is just all screwy!!! 15:39 nengard hmmm - well i can create a list without a title and i get no errors 15:38 gmcharlt i.e., it is prompt if you try to add a list with an empty title 15:38 gmcharlt nengard: I'm not seeing that 4009 is not fixed (sorry for the double negative) 15:35 nengard morning owen! 15:35 owen Hi all 15:34 nengard sorry - worded poorly - it was one patch but only 4010 was fixed and 4009 wasn't ... so the question is - is it possible my changes were overwritted by a merge issue? 15:33 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4009 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard@gmail.com, ASSIGNED, New list w/out title fails silently 15:33 gmcharlt nengard: what separate patch? the one submitted covered both - 'bug 4009 & 4010 add required fields' 15:33 bigbrovar Even if I select the english language options it still stays french 15:33 bigbrovar It seems the language options for koha 3.0.5 is broken If I choose english and french the default language would be set to french and cant be changed from OPAC 15:32 nengard gmcharlt the patch for 4010 was applied, but not the patch for 4009 and they were both submitted in one patch --- was there a merge issue? or a reason one went through and the other didn't? 15:26 chris_n and then will work toward coding that module to format for printing on that 15:25 * chris_n is looking for a dye-sublimation id card printer for a reasonable price 15:24 chris_n cool! 15:21 nengard chris_n - i just printed my first batch of patron cards!! You rock!! It's awesome :) 15:12 bigbrovar ebegin: thanks 15:10 ebegin bigbrovar, it should be in Account » Security Credential 15:05 gmcharlt either/or - it helps to have both upgrades and fresh installs tested 15:04 wizzyrea better to upgrade or start fresh? 15:03 gmcharlt wizzyrea: pretty much as nengard says - pick a bug that you can fix, assigned to yourself, make the patch, and submit it 15:03 nengard lots of commits last night and this morning 15:03 nengard yup 15:03 wizzyrea well, a pull is probably in order before we start that 15:02 wizzyrea hehe 15:02 nengard wizzyrea - put on some big shoes and start stomping :) 15:02 wizzyrea so, how are we going about this bug squashing? 14:56 gmcharlt well, if you want ot toss your hat in the ring to be assignee for circ components in BZ, I don't think anybody would object 14:53 hdl_laptop and we also did one. 14:53 gmcharlt but he tends to come and go as far as being active on koha-devel 14:53 hdl_laptop gmcharlt: yes... midst of ages 14:53 gmcharlt and he did offline circ of course 14:52 gmcharlt well, Kyle has submitted various reserves and circ patches over the years 14:52 gmcharlt and why 21? that's just a default added back in the mists of time - quite likely it is a pre-3.0 thing 14:52 hdl_laptop Has he already worked on that ? 14:51 gmcharlt but there's plenty of room for others to take ownership of circ 14:51 gmcharlt well, Kyle has volunteered to be bug assignee for circ 14:51 hdl_laptop In fact, we are enhancing that and found some problems with the present day situation : e.g. GetLoanLength is defaulted to 21 Why 21 ? By default (no rule defined), a checkout is... allowed. 14:49 hdl_laptop in general and in bug fixing 14:49 gmcharlt in general, you mean? 14:49 hdl_laptop gmcharlt: Do you know if one is working on circulation and smart-rules at the moment ? 14:43 bigbrovar ebegin: is this the same as AWS Account ID ? 14:41 bigbrovar ebegin: hmm I just cant seem to find it.. maybe its in my aws-profile\ 14:39 ebegin it is usually displayed in your amazon account 14:38 bigbrovar ebegin: any idea how to get the AmazonAssocTag? 14:38 ebegin Nope. I was kidding about the secret key. 14:37 bigbrovar ebegin: oh I use my secret key? 14:37 bigbrovar ebegin: em er I thought it supose to the secret ? 14:37 ebegin What is your secret key? :) 14:36 bigbrovar HI guys I have registered for the amazon aws.amazon.com for amazonassoctag .. I have a secret access key and an accesskey. But I dont know I to obtain AmazonAssocTag 14:20 nengard i have no trouble on the site itself - just that i'm not getting emails from it 14:17 chris_n s/big/bit/ 14:10 gmcharlt BZ is a little slow for me to, but not deathly so 14:08 chris_n bugzilla seems a big slow from here 14:01 nengard are commit and bug emails coming in slow for everyone? 14:00 magnus gmcharlt: thanks - closed 13:58 gmcharlt magnus: done 13:56 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3751 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, magnus@enger.priv.no, ASSIGNED, Typo in marc21_field_008.pl 13:56 magnus gmcharlt: if you push the patch for bug 3751 i'll close it asap... ;-) 13:51 nengard yes 13:48 hdl_laptop 3938... OK 13:47 nengard I can record a video of what I did if you want 13:47 nengard hdl_laptop 4016 is still an issue - i chose to have the item picked up at Fairview and yet both the patrons show that they want to have the item picked up at Centerville 13:45 jwagner Maybe it was fixed after the .100 level? 13:44 jwagner Hrmmm. My only updated server is a bit old by now (3.01.00.100), and its index has been rebuilt by the koha owner user, but I still don't see any authority records when I search. 13:43 nengard jwagner user 13:43 jwagner nengard, I got lost there. Was the solution a lock file, or running rebuild zebra as another user? 13:42 gmcharlt another blocker bites the dust - it's all good 13:41 nengard WOOO HOOOO - and DUH!! and I'm sorry :( - all is well now :) 13:40 nengard oh - wait - I DO!!! Let me try something 13:40 nengard http://koha.pastebin.com/m1ea5ac52 13:39 gmcharlt upshot of where I'm getting at is if you have a separate 'koha' user, you have to change to that to run the rebuild_zebra.pl 13:39 gmcharlt and ls -lR /home/nengard/koha-dev/var/lib/zebradb ? 13:38 gmcharlt what's the output of the id command? 13:37 nengard and http://koha.pastebin.com/m4c4e996c 13:37 nengard -rw-r--r-- 1 koha koha 0 2009-09-17 11:55 /home/nengard/koha-dev/var/lock/zebradb/authorities/norm..LCK 13:37 gmcharlt and ls -lR /home/nengard/koha-dev/var/lock 13:36 gmcharlt nengard: what does ls -l /home/nengard/koha-dev/var/lock/zebradb/authorities/norm..LCK show 13:36 nengard this was my log as i rebuilt - and i still find no results: http://koha.pastebin.com/m9995543 13:34 ebegin Good morning, afternoon, night ;) 13:33 hdl_laptop perl rebuild_zebra.pl -a -reset -v 13:33 nengard i need to step away - be back ASAP 13:33 nengard -bash: rebuild_zebra.pl: command not found 13:33 nengard nengard@debian:~/kohaclone/misc/migration_tools$ rebuild_zebra.pl -a -reset -v 13:33 nengard hdl_laptop - i get this: 13:30 hdl_laptop and KOHA_CONF and PERL5LIB 13:30 hdl_laptop in misc/migration_tools 13:29 hdl_laptop rebuild_zebra.pl -a -reset -v 13:29 nengard hdl_laptop yup - but not since i reported the bug, so if you want to tell me what to do I'll do it again 13:28 hdl_laptop nengard: have you reindexed your authorities for 3938 ? 13:28 nengard that said I'll check again to see if it's still an issue 13:28 nengard hdl_laptop - I put the URL in the bug -- cgi-bin/koha/reserve/request.pl?biblionumber=1 13:27 nengard checking now 13:27 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4016 blocker, P5, ---, henridamien@koha-fr.org, NEW, holds listing wrong pick up location 13:27 hdl_laptop can you please tell me which page bug 4016 occurs please ? 13:26 nengard hi hdl_laptop 13:26 hdl_laptop nengard: ? 13:21 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3938 blocker, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, ASSIGNED, Cannot Search Authorities After Upgrade 13:21 nengard gmcharlt bug 3938 updated - and sorry it's still an issue - but if no one else can reproduce it maybe it's something specific to my system .... 13:15 munin chris_n: pianohackr|work was last seen in #koha 3 days, 17 hours, 33 minutes, and 7 seconds ago: <pianohackr|work> gmcharlt: re: translation stopgap? 13:15 chris_n @seen pianohackr|work 13:14 gmcharlt find . -name 'koha-zebradaemon-output.log' 13:14 nengard k - off to find it 13:14 gmcharlt cd ~ 13:14 gmcharlt or 13:14 gmcharlt it's in var/log from whereever you set your Koha run directory 13:14 nengard or gmcharlt :) 13:13 nengard can someone point me to where i can find: koha-zebradaemon-output.log so i can troubleshoot a bug for gmchartl? 13:05 hdl_laptop go for it 13:04 gmcharlt if you don't have patches for those bugs yet, I'll work on it 13:04 gmcharlt hdl_laptop: thoughts on 4144 and 3912 - I think dropping checkdate and comparedate from acq.js and using Date_from_syspref to create JS Date objects for the checks would handle it 12:55 hdl_laptop seems that bugzilla is s l o w 12:53 hdl_laptop hehe 12:52 jwagner hdl_laptop, do crickets count? 12:52 * chris_n is glad to see talk of ILL work on the list 12:51 chris_n hehe 12:46 hdl_laptop hi jwagner have you ever heard the call of bugs in he hoods ? 12:46 gmcharlt theme song for the day: Ride of the Valkyries, Elmer Fudd version, substituting 'buuu-uugs' for 'wabbits' 12:44 * jwagner listens for squishing noises 12:44 jwagner Good morning. 12:42 chris_n g'morning #koha 12:15 chris_n fredericd: FWIW, webif (a web interface for open-wrt) uses @TR<foo> to tag items for translation 11:53 gmcharlt fredericd++ 11:51 fredericd Ok. I give a try to a raw-tokenization of yaml files and see what happens. This is the simplest path 11:48 gmcharlt particularly to better tag linguistic elements 11:48 gmcharlt changing the YAML syntax doesn't bother me as such 11:48 gmcharlt but I was hoping that we could finally fold them into Pootle 11:47 gmcharlt of course, it's not like there was a PO-based translation system for systprefs before the new editor 11:47 gmcharlt that is a problem 11:47 gmcharlt hmm 11:44 fredericd I fear it's necessary to modify deeply YAML files syntax and consequently the new pref editor itself 11:43 gmcharlt however, I don't think that the syspref names should be translated - they act as keys into the database 11:43 gmcharlt there are limits, of course - I agree that word order is an issue 11:42 fredericd the issue is that depending of languages, the order of text, verbs and syspref name must change 11:42 gmcharlt and things like the choice options, which are distinct and can be translated separately 11:42 gmcharlt which, for now, could be translated as big strings 11:42 gmcharlt various pieces of text 11:41 gmcharlt the syspref definition in the Yaml consists of syspref name (which should end up as a comment in the PO to help identify the context of the string) 11:41 gmcharlt but there's an intermediate step 11:41 gmcharlt no, the linguistic tagging can come later 11:40 gmcharlt i.e., if the options in a choice: are verbs, add something to flag it 11:40 fredericd gmcharlt: and the YAML files would have to be translated by hand? 11:40 gmcharlt fredericd: one possibility, which would also require tweaking the preference display code, is to add the ability the tag the YAML with linguistic hints 11:38 fredericd any idea from anybody? 11:37 fredericd take a look at that article: http://search.cpan.org/~ferreira/Locale-Maketext-1.13_82/lib/Locale/Maketext/TPJ13.pod 11:37 fredericd I'm not sure it's even possible to get something usable... 11:36 fredericd But since the editor mixes text, verbs and sypref into complex sentences 11:36 fredericd I have to code a new tokenizer (a kind of xgettext) 11:36 fredericd Text pref doesn't come rather from templates nor from db 11:35 fredericd About new preferences editor translation... 11:08 munin chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 1.9�C (6:02 AM EST on February 10, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 27%. Dew Point: -15.0�C. Windchill: -3.0�C. Pressure: 29.23 in 989.7 hPa (Steady). High Wind Warning in effect until 9 PM EST this evening... 11:08 chris_n @wunder 28334 10:55 gmcharlt hi Amit 10:55 Amit heya galen 10:55 gmcharlt bigbrovar++ 10:55 Amit heya bigborvar 10:54 bigbrovar gmcharlt: thanks for yesterday I have koha running now, the LIbrarian and I are going through the system preference. And I have updated the wiki as promised 10:46 gmcharlt greetings #koha 10:30 bigbrovar Or a link that would explain the concepts .. we are both noobs to library catalogue systems 10:30 bigbrovar hi guys am with the librarian of the school where I work and we are both trying to setup system preference for koha ( my the school's system admin) I just want to know the different between bibliographic data aquisitions and budget-based aquisitions .. advantages and stuff 09:53 tajoli exit 09:53 tajoli quit 09:53 tajoli bye 09:53 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3255 minor, P5, ---, tajoli@cilea.it, ASSIGNED, [3.0.x], [3.2] With dev install you must create and use a 'koha' user 09:53 tajoli I need to quite, I have insert all info in the bug 3255 09:48 fredericd chris: ? 09:43 tajoli But is only a warning during the install process 09:42 tajoli my patch is here http://lists.koha.org/pipermail/koha-patches/2009-May/003448.html 09:38 tajoli (koha) 09:38 tajoli and it use the default 09:38 tajoli during 'dev' install Makefile.PL doesn't ask you user and group 09:37 tajoli yes, but not during 'dev' install 09:35 magnus hm, Makefile.PL asks for a user and inserts it into other files like koha-conf.xml, doesn't it? Seems it should be able to do so for the shell scripts too? 09:26 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3255 minor, P5, ---, tajoli@cilea.it, ASSIGNED, [3.0.x], [3.2] With dev install you must create and use a 'koha' user 09:26 tajoli Do anyone want to discuss about bug 3255 ? 09:26 tajoli Hi 08:15 Amit heya kf, chris 08:03 shamas ok 08:03 chris you might be better off asking on the koha-win32 list 08:03 chris i dont think anyone here uses windows shamas 08:02 shamas can anyone please help out 08:02 shamas can u please help out 08:02 shamas i am having this error in "intranet error_log" while adding authorized values 08:01 shamas DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Incorrect integer value: '' for column 'id' at row 1 at C:/usr/koha229/intranet/cgi-bin/koha/admin/authorised_values.pl line 117., referer: http://intranet/cgi-bin/koha/admin/authorised_values.pl 07:47 kf hi chris 07:45 chris hi kf 07:44 kf good morning 06:34 munin brendan: The current temperature in Third Avenue Park, West Haven, Connecticut is 1.2�C (1:09 AM EST on February 10, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: -8.0�C. Windchill: 1.0�C. Pressure: 29.76 in 1007.7 hPa (Falling). Winter Storm Warning in effect until 6 am EST Thursday... 06:34 brendan @wunder 06516 03:01 munin brendan: Quote #43: "< Ropuch> Uh - beware of tea: it can burn your throat" (added by chris at 04:35 AM, October 30, 2009) 03:01 brendan @quote random 03:00 munin brendan: pianohacker was last seen in #koha 4 days, 7 hours, 43 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <pianohacker> brb work 03:00 brendan @seen pianohacker 01:23 joetho Tomorrow will be a big day. 01:22 joetho French people are amused by that, I think. 01:22 joetho But I am extreeeeeemely interested in it, so I will try to get a very clear idea of what I am trying to express, and see if I can do it in french. 01:21 joetho but I am kind of braindead 01:21 joetho Obviously I am doing something wrong 01:21 joetho it is not in the 3.2 dox yet 01:20 joetho I can't get it to work 01:20 chris ditto the merge 01:20 chris yep 01:20 joetho the new "batch modify a queryset of items" in "tools" came from... BibLibre? 01:12 brendan jinx 01:12 brendan ah biltmore.com 01:12 chris_n http://www.biltmore.com/ 01:12 brendan biltmore? 01:11 chris_n you need to visit Biltmore while you're there 01:11 chris_n its very nice, I've been out there a bunch since moving to NC 01:11 chris_n of easy driving 01:11 chris_n ~5 hours 01:11 brendan how far is it for you? 01:11 brendan chris_n would love to have you 01:10 munin chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 4.6�C (8:04 PM EST on February 09, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 29.38 in 994.8 hPa (Falling). High Wind Warning in effect from 6 am to 9 PM EST Wednesday... 01:10 chris_n @wunder 28334 01:10 * chris_n wishes he could break away for the preconference koha meeting in ashville 01:07 brendan sorry middle-earth 01:07 * brendan spent my childhood in mid-earth 01:06 gmcharlt nice 01:06 brendan played on the literary reference and the community aspect of it 01:06 gmcharlt ah 01:06 joetho hmmm 01:06 brendan from LOTR 01:06 brendan it's a small community meeting place in the shire 01:06 joetho no idea 01:05 gmcharlt I'll bite - why did you pick that name? 01:05 brendan do you know why we choose the name ByWater (not anything to do with water)? 01:04 brendan thanks joetho --> I'll make sure to update last thing tonight 01:04 braedon|work 14 timezones should be in the 10th by now 01:03 joetho Yes, I know 01:03 joetho Wow. 01:03 braedon|work "There is a bug squashing session tomorrow all day, all time zones in the #koha" 01:03 joetho This is so much more fun than it was a month ago. 01:03 braedon|work shouldn't it be bug squishing now? 01:03 joetho Hope the Bywater test server doesn't spring a leak. 01:02 joetho tomorrow. 01:01 joetho I want to test that too 00:57 chris that and the bulk item editing are pretty neat 00:57 chris yeah, seems to work too 00:57 joetho pretty interesting 00:57 joetho <---looking at the merge option mentioned above, using the virtualshelflist thing. 00:56 * owen wanders off again 00:55 chris sweet 00:54 brendan busy day tomorrow hoping that I can make it for part of the day for bug squashing 00:51 brendan there you go that's cold 00:51 munin gmcharlt: The current temperature in Barrow, Alaska is -29.0�C (3:45 PM AKST on February 09, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: -32.0�C. Windchill: -40.0�C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Falling). 00:51 gmcharlt @wunder barrow, alaska 00:50 munin brendan: Error: No such location could be found. 00:50 brendan @wunder northpole alaska 00:50 munin moodaepo: The current temperature in South on Monks, Mankato, Minnesota is -6.4�C (6:45 PM CST on February 09, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -8.0�C. Windchill: -13.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1020.9 hPa (Rising). 00:50 moodaepo @wunder 56001 00:47 gmcharlt I'm quite serious, by the way 00:47 gmcharlt wow, positively balmy in Anchorage 00:47 munin gmcharlt: The current temperature in Northern Lights/ Turnagain, Anchorage, Alaska is -2.6�C (3:42 PM AKST on February 09, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: -7.0�C. Windchill: -3.0�C. Pressure: 29.42 in 996.2 hPa (Falling). Strong wind through tonight along Turnagain Arm and higher elevations... 00:47 gmcharlt @wunder 99517 00:46 * brendan does the munin good weather dance 00:46 brendan ok it's on you munin - make the weather good for that day 00:46 owen ...and since there's no way to know... 00:46 owen I'd love to be there brendan but there's no way I'd attempt the drive if the weather was bad 00:45 chris cool, ill set aside my morning for bugs 00:45 owen Yeah :| 00:44 brendan we can set aside for time for you to talk present --> if you need some motivatiom 00:44 gmcharlt chris: it is indeed bug day tomorrow 00:44 chris without snow :) 00:44 owen Google maps says 6.5 hr drive 00:44 chris from the chatter on #code4lib the place sounds like quite tricky to get too 00:44 * brendan would love to have you there 00:44 chris how far is it? 00:44 * owen wonders if he could swing a trip to the code4lib preconference day... 00:42 chris is it bug day tomorrow? 00:40 brendan :) 00:40 gmcharlt brendan: you're going to code4lib in North Caroline in a couple weeks - better be careful saying that 00:39 brendan snow++ # /me won't be seeing any for awhile 00:39 owen Except my day job turns into a babysitting one! 00:39 gmcharlt owen: being snowed in gives you more time to hack Koha without your pesky day job interfering ;) 00:38 * owen will test more tomorrow and submit...assuming he's not snowed in 00:38 chris i have to say i much prefer that, to the complicated ideas being tossed out about revamping the updatedatabase 00:37 gmcharlt yes 00:37 owen What about changing kohaversion.pl? Will you do that as well? 00:36 gmcharlt and I'll assign the number 00:36 gmcharlt yes - in the updatedatabase.pl code, use 3.01.00.XXX as the version number 00:35 owen I've never submitted a patch that updates the database before-- gmcharlt are you managing database version numbers? 00:32 gmcharlt as it is an enhancement, pushing bugfixes, particularly for holds, will get priority 00:32 owen it's an enhancement, although minor 00:31 gmcharlt it'll be in future, at any rate 00:31 chris if its a bugfix then id say highly likely it will make it 00:31 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2970 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Create a permission for modifying holds priority 00:31 * owen worked on a fix for Bug 2970 today, wondering if it would make it into 3.2 00:30 chris cool, tis pretty quiet at the moment 00:30 owen Hi. Just got the kids in bed, thought I'd wander by 00:29 chris hiya owen