Time Nick Message 23:31 chris_n2 ok, enough said... time to eat 23:31 Nate goodnight #koha! 23:17 chris yeah, erecting artificial barriers is a way to create real ones 23:16 gmcharlt but still, an important part of any new feature database will be having it actually be accepted by the users *and* developers (and user/developers and developer/users) who are the audience for it 23:16 chris yup, making bugzilla nicer would be good 23:15 gmcharlt to be fair, bugzilla does not have a friendly face, and it takes work to have it be useful for the kind of fund raising that I think Lori Ayre et al are trying to do it 23:14 chris_n2 then they could get over their bugzilla hang-up 23:14 chris wrap bugzilla with a nicer interface 23:14 chris_n2 hehe 23:14 chris that would be a much more laudable goal 23:14 gmcharlt of course, one of the ultimate ways to vote on the desirability of a feature is to, well, fund it 23:14 chris_n2 maybe they just need to re-skin bugzilla so people won't recognize it is bugzilla :-) 23:13 chris yeah ... thats not how you get FLOSS developers to work with you 23:13 chris "letting the users organise themselves before passing it off to the developers to do something" 23:13 chris_n2 hot topic 23:12 seneca I agree 23:11 chris thats not how FLOSS works best 23:11 chris STOP IT ALREADY 23:11 chris gah, everyone keeps wanting to split users vs developers 23:10 seneca though now I need to upgrade it and the built-in upgrader either hangs, or I don't understand what it's asking me 23:10 gmcharlt seneca: we're referring to http://markmail.org/message/34ku672yiuudfzft and the responses to it 23:10 seneca it certainly was easy to "install" ;) 23:10 chris the VM appliance is cool :) 23:09 * chris_n2 now knows a bit more about John Yokley 23:09 seneca k 23:09 gmcharlt seneca: no 23:09 seneca are you referring to the VM appliance? 23:08 chris reinventing the wheel, in order to try not to reinvent the wheel 23:07 chris always the way 23:05 chris_n2 seems those funds might be put to better use imho 23:05 chris chris_n2++ 22:51 seneca Does anyone here use Kyle Hall's VM appliance? 22:47 CGI680 this is the error "Can't call method "append_fields" 22:44 CGI680 I found an error that has laready been reported "3520" and there is a patch to solve it but how do I implement the patch? 22:36 cait good night #koha 22:11 chris_n2 CGI010: I've got to run out; try /usr/share/koha.. but I'm not sure 22:02 CGI010 and standart 22:02 CGI010 tarball 22:00 chris_n2 rather.. what sort of install did you do? standard, single, or dev? 21:59 chris_n2 did you install from a tarball or a git repo? 21:58 CGI010 3 21:58 CGI010 yes 21:57 wizzyrea is this version 3? or 2.2.9 21:57 CGI010 I cant find the sax_parser_test.pl file 21:55 wizzyrea hrm, guess it's not that 21:55 chris_n2 is the one 21:55 chris_n2 misc/sax_parser_test.pl 21:54 chris_n2 run that and it will tell you if the parser is correct 21:53 chris_n2 CGI010: there is a parser test script in the 'misc' subdir iirc 21:53 * chris_n2 thinks wizzyrea is full of good advice atm 21:53 CGI010 do we need to have that 21:52 CGI010 the last part at the bottom is the same but I dont have anything above it 21:46 wizzyrea somebody jump in if I'm full of poo 21:46 wizzyrea that must be at the bottom of the file 21:46 wizzyrea iirc it's the last bit [XML::LibXML::SAX::Parser] that is the one that is actually used 21:44 wizzyrea this is what my ParserDetails.ini looks like: http://screencast.com/t/MTYzZTFiYzg 21:42 wizzyrea parserdetails.ini, was the part i left off 21:41 wizzyrea lms if I can get you an example of what should be in /etc/perl/XML 21:41 wizzyrea this message may help: http://old.nabble.com/Re:-Can't-call-method-"append_fields"-p25867064.html 21:40 CGI010 thanks 21:39 wizzyrea sec, let me see if I can find out which 21:39 wizzyrea I'm guessing that you are missing a perl module, but i'm not sure which one 21:39 CGI010 just finished installing 21:39 CGI010 yes 21:39 wizzyrea is this a new installation? 21:38 CGI010 Can't call method "append_fields" on an undefined value at /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.0/MARC/File/SAX.pm line 92. 21:37 CGI010 Hello i am getting this error message when adding a new item to a record, do you know what I am doing wrong or what is happening 21:09 munin hdl_laptop: The operation succeeded. 21:09 hdl_laptop @later tell jwagner sorry for delay, I was caught by some tough work. yes we did some work on inventory stocktaking. You can look at git.biblibre.com master branch 21:09 hdl_laptop later tell jwagner sorry for delay, I was caught by some tough work. yes we did some work on inventory stocktaking. You can look at git.biblibre.com master branch 21:07 hdl_laptop bib merging is available on shelves 21:06 wizzyrea ty 21:06 wizzyrea okies 21:06 hdl_laptop wizzyrea: we planned to do bib bulkediting, but it is not done at the moment 21:05 hdl_laptop wizzyrea: yea we did bib merging. 20:58 cait nice teamwork here :) 20:56 gmcharlt CGI324: port 7090 20:56 CGI324 we do have firewall what port do I have to open 20:54 wizzyrea Yea, making it through :D 20:53 cait fine thx, hope you too 20:52 wizzyrea ah hello cait, how are ya? 20:52 cait hi wizzyrea :) 20:51 wizzyrea can you telnet to z39.50.loc.gov from the command line of the server? 20:50 cait CGI324: are you behind a firewall? 20:48 CGI324 Connection failed to z3950.loc.gov 20:48 CGI324 hello all im getting this error message do you have any idea what could it be 20:44 cait ah too slow 20:43 cait bye seneca :) 20:43 seneca g'bye all 20:43 seneca thanks again, chris! 20:43 seneca ah.. I'm also a language teacher, so I flip back and forth between languages way too often ;) 20:43 chris http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=Koha;a=blob;f=misc/release_notes/release_notes_30005.txt;h=f1d9f3aa3796df4ada9029a1d2dd4a0e99d42867;hb=5983a8c3811c6b5f9ed0192eca3f94f07aa3b006 20:42 seneca this is indeed why I love FLOSS :) 20:42 cait ah, just wonderes about the Danke - im from Germany 20:42 seneca gotta run to lead a training session now, but thanks to all for your guidance 20:42 seneca sweet 20:42 chris and in git 20:42 chris yep 20:42 seneca are there release notes for it somewhere? possibly in the tarball? 20:41 seneca excellent 20:41 chris it has tons and tons for bug fixes since the version you have 20:41 seneca there already 20:41 seneca I will dl it 20:41 chris http://download.koha.org/ 20:41 seneca awesome, thanks chris 20:41 seneca Anyway, I'm from Dayton, OH USA 20:41 chris not 3.0.4 20:40 chris seneca, 3.0.5 is hte latest stable 20:40 seneca I can cait, but I'm unsure how to reply - I'm in this web-based irc client 20:40 cait seneca: sent you a pm, dont know if you can see it ;) 20:39 seneca wonder if my holds=available problem is fixed in 3.0.4 20:39 chris it will be 3.2.0 when its released (within a month or so) 20:39 chris thats right 20:38 seneca so the 3.01 tree isn't "stable" yet? 20:38 seneca how do you pm in the web version of the irc client? ;) 20:38 chris its the latest stable release 20:38 chris i would upgrade to 3.0.5 first 20:38 cait ah, didnt know that 20:37 chris we cant edit the website im afraid, to fix all the wrong info on there 20:37 chris or you can get 3.0.5 from download.koha.org 20:37 cait seneca: you can download it from git.koha.org 20:37 cait seneca: where are you from? 20:36 seneca I only see version 3.00.04 on the site. Where might I find the 3.01.xx version? 20:34 chris there is koha .. and liblime's fork 20:34 * chris doesnt like to play the liblime marketing game, .. there is not community koha and liblime enterprise koha 20:33 chris koha is at 3.01.00.100 now ... and non-free as in freedom 20:33 seneca Will do! Danke! 20:33 seneca ah, non-free version, got it 20:32 schuster Upgrade! 20:32 schuster cait correct on the fork, but looks like community has the patch so not a fork on that patch! 20:32 cait fork = liblime enterprise koha 20:31 seneca wait, schuster, what "fork" are you referring to? I didn't realize there were two branches of Koha... 20:30 seneca cait, thanks for the info - seems like it might have been fixed in the time between schuster (and me) and you 20:28 seneca schuster, it says "available" when it has been pulled and placed on the hold shelf? 20:28 seneca and it says "available" even after checked in and put on the hold shelf - guess I should upgrade 20:27 seneca 3.00.01.005 20:26 schuster Let me restate that 3.01.32 says available on the hold shelf so others can't place a hold. 20:26 schuster .32 says available when on the hold shelf. FYI. 20:25 cait I can only check tomorrow, now access to our koha systems from home 20:25 schuster go to more about and check the version... 20:25 schuster we are on an older version .32 I believe so maybe there is a "patch" that I don't have... 20:25 seneca I'm running the VM from Kyle Hall and it still says "available" until it is officially checked out 20:25 cait they can see it in their account too, when its activated in sys prefs 20:24 seneca ah, when another user goes to place a hold on the same book, they'll just be added second in line/priority, right? If they were observant, they could see that they were number 2 when they placed the hold... 20:24 cait we are on 3.01.61 20:23 cait hm I thought it would be shown as waiting 20:23 schuster Which confuses our librarians and won't allow others to place holds on that book since it is "available" unless someone has a fix for it. I know in the fork that has been addressed. 20:22 schuster in community it currently says available. 20:20 seneca no, post-check-in, but pre-picked up 20:20 cait on hold - on shelf and not yet pulled and checked in? 20:19 seneca Quick question: When a book is on hold, should its status be "available" or something sounding more "hold"-y? 20:10 cait :) 20:09 cait Guten Abend jwagner 20:09 jwagner Guten Abend, cait 20:09 cait hi #koha 20:01 wizzyrea HAHA 19:59 jwagner wizzyrea, the two are not mutually exclusive :-) 19:55 wizzyrea or am I smoking it 19:55 wizzyrea right? 19:55 wizzyrea BibLibre did the bib maintenance enhancements (bulk editing/adding, Bib merging) 19:23 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3294 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, inventory tool 19:23 jwagner I have a patch for Bug 3294, but there are also problems at our current level (.061) with selecting on item type and location. If you've done significant work in those areas, I don't want to try to touch them at this level. 19:21 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4037 normal, P5, ---, paul.poulain@biblibre.com, NEW, Inventroy Tool Missing Item Type Filter 19:21 jwagner Looking at Bug 4037, it seems like you might have done some work in latest head/3.2 on the inventory tool. Is that the case? 19:20 hdl_laptop jwagner: ? 19:09 jwagner hdl_laptop, still online? 17:15 * oceb on the phone 17:12 frederic hello 17:12 rcatlin hi David 17:12 * chris_n takes the chocolates :-) 17:12 * jwagner hands chris_n a box of chocolates or a stiff drink, whichever he'd prefer. 17:11 chris_n what a fun morning :-| 17:11 chris_n for the record: it turns out that this was a root-kit based DDOS bot launching an attack against komando.com 17:02 brendan hi oceb 16:59 oceb hi brendan 16:57 oceb like ad-blocker.. or else 16:57 oceb a firefox extension 16:57 CGI213 what do you mean by an extension 16:56 oceb do you have some extension ? 16:56 oceb strange... 16:55 CGI213 firefox 16:55 oceb wich browser are you using? 16:54 oceb uhmm maybe javascript 16:54 CGI213 yes 16:53 oceb do you have patron categories? 16:53 CGI213 only the option to search by last name 16:52 oceb what do you see on /cgi-bin/koha/members/members-home.pl ? 16:51 CGI213 3.0 16:51 CGI213 HI 16:51 oceb wich version of koha? 16:51 oceb hi CGI213 16:49 CGI213 Hello I finish installing Koha but I cannot find where to add new patrons, when I go to the patrons page there isn´t a new button, does anyone has an idea of what could I do 16:36 toins hi oceb 16:36 toins hi all 16:35 oceb hi toins 16:33 jwagner Found the globalDueDate problem, never mind 16:15 jwagner Has anyone worked with the globalDueDate syspref? I've set a date there, but the system is ignoring it. Is there another setting I need to use to say "pay attention" to it? 16:02 hdl_laptop Why choosing a package rather than a plugin firefox ? 16:01 hdl_laptop Just a question : why not working on top of what jean-andre did for offline-circulation 16:00 hdl_laptop kyle: thanks for your hard work. 15:51 oceb and i have Google Jackets off 15:51 oceb but doesn't work 15:51 oceb well i have OPACAmazonEnabled on, OPACAmazonCoverImages on and AmazonEnabled on 15:51 oceb =o 15:50 owen That sounds like a bug 15:50 owen Can't blame you for missing it on the Local Use tab 15:49 oceb omg im a donkey :P 15:49 oceb OPACAmazonEnabled is off =O 15:49 oceb it's on local use tab :oP 15:48 oceb omg 15:48 owen (OPACAmazonEnabled may have been added since 3.0.5) 15:48 owen oceb: What about AmazonEnabled ? 15:48 oceb i can't find 'OPACAmazonEnabled' 15:47 oceb owen : i have OPACAmazonCoverImages on 15:47 munin oceb: Error: "owen" is not a valid command. 15:47 oceb @owen : 15:47 oceb but with google off, it doesn't work anyway 15:47 oceb yeah, i know 15:47 wizzyrea at least that's what I was told a while back 15:46 wizzyrea I thought they were mutually exclusive 15:46 wizzyrea I don't think you can use both amazon covers AND google covers 15:46 owen oceb, in the development version I'm using you also have to turn on OPACAmazonCoverImages and OPACAmazonEnabled 15:46 wizzyrea I don't think you can use both 15:45 * owen isn't sure if some Amazon preferences changed since 3.0.5 15:45 oceb when i put GoogleJackets on, it shows some covers from google... but nothing from amazon 15:44 oceb 3.0.5 15:44 oceb uhmm 15:44 owen oceb: Remind me what version you're on? 15:44 oceb but i havent covers =( 15:44 oceb i have two 15:44 oceb uhmmm 15:43 owen But AWSAccessKeyID and AWSPrivateKey are 15:43 owen oceb: AmazonAssocTag is not required for Amazon content 15:43 oceb sorry 15:43 oceb owen : yes, i have AmazonAssocTag 15:43 kf bye #koha 15:42 wizzyrea mgcleveland yea, it would probably be important to know how that got changed. :/ 15:41 owen Did you get your AWSAccessKeyID and AWSPrivateKey? 15:41 owen oceb, are you trying to set up Amazon content? 15:40 oceb ? 15:40 oceb where i can found my AmazonAssocTag 15:40 oceb hi guys 15:40 oceb mmm 15:40 mgcleveland thanks again! 15:40 kf jwagner: its in nengard's git http://spedr.com/1eeuq look for scheduler and trouble shooting 15:40 mgcleveland ok well I'm outta here 15:39 kf jwagner: sorry, phone call 15:39 hdl_laptop how are you ? 15:39 hdl_laptop hi kyle 15:39 mgcleveland >( 15:39 mgcleveland maybe someone else was fiddling with the source code 15:39 mgcleveland like I said, i really don't know how that got in there 15:38 mgcleveland which turned out to be the problem 15:38 mgcleveland well you made me think about versioning issues 15:38 mgcleveland hey! 15:38 wizzyrea I barely helped, but it's my pleasure to walk the troubleshooting path with you. :) 15:37 wizzyrea oh, hi, just got in, that's great to hear 15:36 mgcleveland wizzyrea: I fixed the problem. Turns out i had an incompatible version of addbiblio.pl. I don't know how that happened but it's fixed now! Thanks for your help! 15:34 chris_n it appear to be a ddos bot 15:34 * chris_n finds a second infection... ugh 15:30 mgcleveland wizzyrea, you here? 15:14 jwagner OK. I may send a couple this week. Thanks. 15:14 gmcharlt jwagner: patches against head are more likely to apply; you can submit patches against your .061, but be prepared for them to bounce if they touchc any files that have been changed from .061 to .100 15:11 jwagner For various good reasons, my dev server is still at .061. I need to do some relatively minor patches. Can you accept patches done at that version of head, or do they need to wait until I get up to the current head? 15:11 gmcharlt jwagner: yes 15:10 jwagner gmcharlt, online? 15:06 owen It should be a good fit, she's very Open Source-friendly. 15:06 owen Kansas steals Ohio's State Librarian: http://webjunctionworks.org/oh/blog/index.php/2010/01/21/message-from-state-librarian-jo-budler/ 15:03 gmcharlt concrete boots! 15:02 owen gmc is now a made man. 15:01 oceb hi gmc_mob 14:54 kyle owen: That's exactly my thoughts. 14:52 kf mom 14:51 jwagner kf, do you have any more info? I'm not seeing an update from nengard in the bug report. 14:50 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3935 enhancement, P5, ---, chris@bigballofwax.co.nz, NEW, Schedule tasks periodically 14:50 jwagner Also Bug 3935 14:50 kf jwagner: its a rights problem afaik, I think nengard tested it for documentation 14:49 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1993 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Task Scheduler Needs Re-write 14:49 jwagner See Bug 1993 14:49 owen kyle: I would think that your idea would allow for more flexible reports if perl scripts were included which could do data processing 14:49 jwagner Has anyone ever fixed the problem with being unable to schedule reports? 14:46 kyle I think if the current reports system gets run time vars, my idea would be superfluous 14:45 kyle I've been thinking about adding a 'Custom Reports' module where you could upload a custom report file ( say myReport.krz ), and it would magically appear and be click and run. The file be a zip file with the perl and template files, and a file describing data about it ( description, landing page, etc ). I just wonder if it would be worth the time and effort. 14:43 owen Post 3.2 I assume 14:42 kyle Sweet : ) Any eta for this to be committed? 14:42 kf :) 14:41 kf http://spedr.com/1djz0 14:41 owen http://git.biblibre.com/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha;a=commit;h=3744695fbcc4de7c1417b202136b9ce5d66ca840 14:40 kf it will be possible, there is a patch from biblibre 14:40 kyle I have custom SQL reports that need to be run periodically for each of my libraries. Am I correct in assuming that I need to create the report for *each* library and schedule a run for each one? I.e. there is no way to put something like _LIBRARY_ in the statement and have is swapped out for the branchname at run time? 14:37 kyle owen: I've got alot of great stuff ready to release, but I figured I'd wait until 3.2 is out the door before sending patches. 14:37 kyle Is anyone around familiar with the Koha reports wizard and the custom SQL reports? 14:36 owen kyle++ # For lots of new patches recently 14:36 Nate hi kyle 14:35 kyle hello all 14:29 Nate Thank God for space heaters 14:28 Nate ha! 14:28 jdavidb If you could @wunder jwagner's_office, you'd get something almost that cold, I think. 14:28 munin Nate: The current temperature in Third Avenue Park, West Haven, Connecticut is -2.1�C (9:09 AM EST on January 21, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: -5.0�C. Windchill: -2.0�C. Pressure: 30.25 in 1024.3 hPa (Rising). 14:28 Nate @wunder 06516 14:28 munin jdavidb: The current temperature in Flower Valley, Rockville, Maryland is -1.7�C (9:23 AM EST on January 21, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: -5.0�C. Windchill: -2.0�C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa. 14:28 jdavidb @wunder 20852 14:28 schuster Balmy ;) 14:27 munin schuster: The current temperature in Brookview, Plano, Texas is 10.1�C (8:15 AM CST on January 21, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: -4.0�C. Pressure: 28.97 in 980.9 hPa (Rising). 14:27 schuster @wunder 75074 14:27 munin schuster: Error: "wonder" is not a valid command. 14:27 Nate it does seem unseasonable warm here 14:27 schuster @wonder 75074 14:27 Nate yeesh 14:27 jdavidb We're expecting a "sloppy inch" in the DC area tomorrow. :/ 14:24 Nate i want an extra week of Xmas!! 14:24 Nate not bad. looks like Ct is gonna get hit again this weekend! 14:23 owen Kids around here got a whole extra week of Christmas vacation because of it 14:23 owen Just after Christmas, but it's all but gone now 14:22 Nate did you guys get snow? 14:22 Nate hiya Owen! 14:22 owen Hi Nate 14:20 Nate Greetings #koha! 14:15 gmcharlt and nicely enough, http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/Aliases 14:14 chris_n lol 14:10 owen Heh... Two interchangeable commands, but pick one based on your mood. 14:10 gmcharlt git blame-if-it-be-buggy-take-all-the-credit-otherwise? 14:10 gmcharlt git credit? :) 14:07 jdavidb owen: I do too. It got some chuckles in my git presentation yesterday, too. 14:06 owen jdavidb: I love the accusatory tone of "git blame" :) 14:05 chris_n very cool for sorting out a mass of development work after the fact 14:04 chris_n you can back up and split commits in the middle of the interactive rebase 14:04 chris_n yeah, git reset HEAD^ is another very useful line when used in conjunction with git rebase -i 14:03 * jdavidb started using the heck out of "git blame" the moment he learned about it. 14:03 owen Seriously, how did I live without "git commit --amend," and why don't they teach you that one on the first day? 14:02 * jdavidb lols at owen's latest tweet. 14:02 chris_n ehlo magnus 14:02 owen Hi schuster, magnus 13:59 chris_n which does not give me a warm and fuzzy feeling 13:59 chris_n unfortunately all of the main-line virus/malware/spyware software failed to pick up on it 13:58 chris_n hi schuster 13:58 chris_n komando.com 13:58 schuster Heyo!@ 13:57 oceb hi schuster 13:53 * owen too 13:52 * jdavidb would be tweeting and/or otherwise broadcasting which popular radio talk-show site has been hacked. 13:52 hdl_laptop hi 13:51 * jwagner is grumpy today 13:50 jwagner Use it as a teaching moment :-) Make the user get up in front of everyone and explain what he did and why it was a Bad Idea.... 13:47 chris_n moral: Don't install bunches of "gadgets" on your computer. 13:46 chris_n some are not 13:46 chris_n this user is perfectly capable of doing this, however 13:46 chris_n jwagner: you did not hear that from me ;-) 13:45 chris_n as nothing I know of would remove it 13:45 jwagner So will that teach the user an effective lesson? 13:45 * chris_n notes that that user is currently re-formatting and re-installing his os, etc. 13:44 owen Oh how nice. 13:44 chris_n owen: it appears to have been in a download from a very popular radio talk-show website 13:43 jwagner That soundeth not fun :-( 13:43 chris_n over 53.5 million (yes million) attempts to access a mass email site 13:43 owen chris_n: Ouch. Do you know how it got there? 13:42 oceb Hi owen 13:42 * chris_n came in to a squid overwhelmed by a spam-bot which a user unwittingly installed on their computer :-P 13:42 owen Hi all 13:39 jwagner good morning chris_n 13:36 chris_n g'morning 10:00 kf hi #koha 08:50 Ropuch Hello Amit, nicomo 08:50 nicomo hi Amit 08:49 Amit heya nicomo, Ropuch 07:04 Ropuch Morning #koha 03:43 Amit morning #koha 03:43 Amit heya chris_n2, chris 03:37 chris_n2 g'night #koha 03:07 chris_n2 cool 03:06 chris good, in a postgres talk at the moment 02:58 chris_n2 hows the conference today? 02:58 chris_n2 heya chris 02:55 chris hi chris_n2 02:19 chris_n2 g'evening 00:43 brendan :) 00:41 chris well my wife 00:41 brendan or for chris - peanut butter 00:41 chris :) 00:41 brendan chocolate works 00:35 chris im at the attracting and retaining ppl for a floss project 00:35 chris will do, i just went off to another session, they are still bugfixing 00:27 russ chris: say gidday to bob for me :-) 00:26 brendan awesome 00:26 chris (im reading mail) 00:26 chris bob from calyx, and mason are sitting next to me, fixing koha bugs, during the lunch break :) 00:24 chris yeah its been nice weather for the conf 00:22 brendan almost double 00:22 brendan wow thats beating me by a lot 00:22 chris gotcha beat today brendan 00:21 munin chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 23.0�C (1:00 PM NZDT on January 21, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Steady). 00:21 chris @wunder wellington nz 00:10 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 12.8�C (4:03 PM PST on January 20, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.46 in 997.5 hPa (Rising). Coastal Flood Warning in effect until 4 am PST Thursday... 00:10 brendan @wunder 93117 00:00 oceb exit