Time  Nick              Message
23:47 pianohackr|work   Am waiting to figure that out until I have a better idea where I'm going and how that would work
23:47 pianohackr|work   that's the thing
23:36 brendan           most likely that would be in the middle of your first semester in college - so I wasn't sure
23:36 brendan           whoops pianohackr|work
23:35 brendan           hey pianohacker - did you ever think about going to kohacon10 ?
23:35 munin             brendan: The current temperature in Brisbane Airport M. O, Queensland is 27.0�C (9:00 AM EST on December 12, 2009). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Rising).
23:35 brendan           @wunder brisbane, australia
23:34 brendan           that's how it should be :)
23:33 munin             brendan: Karma for "buddha" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1.
23:33 brendan           @karma buddha
23:33 brendan           buddha++
23:11 munin             pianohackr|work: buddha has neutral karma.
23:11 pianohackr|work   @karma buddha
23:10 joetho            ha ha ha
23:10 munin             joetho: cmon_nobody_REALLY has neutral karma.
23:10 joetho            @karma cmon_nobody_REALLY
23:10 * chris_n2        throws more logs on the fire
23:09 munin             chris_n2: The current temperature in Moore Farm, Four Oaks, North Carolina is -0.3�C (6:07 PM EST on December 11, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: -8.0�C. Windchill: 0.0�C. Pressure: 30.47 in 1031.7 hPa (Falling).
23:09 chris_n2          @wunder 28334
23:09 munin             joetho: madeupnamecouldbeanyone has neutral karma.
23:09 joetho            @karma madeupnamecouldbeanyone
23:09 munin             joetho: johnindy has neutral karma.
23:09 joetho            @karma johnindy
23:09 joetho            well I guess it could be worse
23:08 munin             joetho: joetho has neutral karma.
23:08 joetho            @karma joetho
22:46 wizzyrea          we got an arctic screamer early this week, so cold they closed school in a lot of places
22:46 wizzyrea          PHW: yes, it has been crazy cold
22:45 pianohackr|work   wizzyrea: Has it been insanely cold in kansas lately? We've been getting sub-0°F temps at night lately
22:43 munin             brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 12.4�C (2:38 PM PST on December 11, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015.1 hPa (Falling).
22:43 brendan           @wunder 93117
22:43 munin             brendan: Error: No such location could be found.
22:43 brendan           @wunder 93317
22:43 wizzyrea          brr.
22:42 munin             wizzyrea: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is 2.0�C (4:41 PM CST on December 11, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 30.17 in 1021.6 hPa (Steady).
22:42 wizzyrea          @wunder 66047
22:42 munin             wizzyrea: Highest karma: "chris" (91), "owen" (67), and "gmcharlt" (67).  Lowest karma: "<!" (-27), "failed" (-20), and "-" (-11).  You (wizzyrea) are ranked 10 out of 612.
22:42 wizzyrea          @karma
22:37 wizzyrea          aha, it's case insensitive, nice
22:36 munin             wizzyrea: Karma for "LibLime" has been increased 0 times and decreased 7 times for a total karma of -7.
22:36 wizzyrea          @karma LibLime
22:36 wizzyrea          yikes
22:36 munin             wizzyrea: Karma for "liblime" has been increased 0 times and decreased 7 times for a total karma of -7.
22:36 wizzyrea          @karma liblime
22:36 wizzyrea          ooh 9 short of 100 ;)
22:36 Genji             liblime--
22:36 munin             wizzyrea: Karma for "chris" has been increased 91 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 91.
22:36 wizzyrea          @karma chris
22:36 Genji             catalyst++
22:36 Genji             katipo++
22:36 Genji             chris++
22:35 brendan           not you
22:35 brendan           yup
22:35 brendan           you chris++
22:35 wizzyrea          fixing stuff all over the place
22:35 wizzyrea          man, chris is on fire today
22:32 |Lupin|           ok, enough chatting for today, bye all.
22:32 |Lupin|           there will be a tibetan name to replace it :)
22:31 |Lupin|           this name will soon be out of use :)
22:31 |Lupin|           :)
22:31 pianohackr|work   you too, sébastien
22:31 |Lupin|           good end of day jese, take care
22:30 pianohackr|work   Hehe
22:30 |Lupin|           tomorrow, one-person-hackfest, I'll be allowed to cooooode !
22:30 pianohackr|work   Good night
22:29 |Lupin|           ok, time for me to go sleeping
22:27 nelsonf           wildew
22:26 pianohackr|work   nelsonf: Good luck, feel free to bug me again if that doesn't help :)
22:26 nelsonf           excellent, thanks.  have a swell weekend everyone  ...
22:24 pianohackr|work   yup
22:23 nelsonf           done. now I check out a book due tomorrow, then wait until sunday (Delay 1) to see if it works?
22:22 pianohackr|work   Same for second and third at cfce, for now
22:22 pianohackr|work   Yup
22:22 nelsonf           In Default should I just clear everything out, an set each of the three triggers to Delay : null and No Notice?
22:21 pianohackr|work   nelsonf: try cutting it down to just the First at CFCE
22:20 wizzyrea          I keep forgetting today is friday
22:20 nelsonf           I have settings on both DEFAULT and branch CFCE.  Originally I had just CFCE.
22:19 chris             bbiab
22:19 chris             ok gotta go finish building bunk beds
22:18 |Lupin|           chris++
22:18 |Lupin|           yeah
22:18 pianohackr|work   cool. thanks for your best practices, they are appreciated :)
22:18 chris             then just rebase
22:18 pianohackr|work   Assuming I do want all the changes?
22:17 chris             pianohackr|work: it depends if you want all your changes and/or you have fears of tons of conflicts
22:17 nelsonf           pianohackr|work: Im testing with one patron category, superlibrarian LIB-S.  At Home | Tools | Notice Triggers I have First : Delay 1 (Overdue Notice), then Second : Delay 2(Overdue Notice) to make testing easier...  Today I added Third: Delay 3 (Overdue Notice).  There is a second patron type that is above the LIB-S.
22:17 chris             git branch -D master (after you have branched it)
22:17 chris             ie branch
22:17 chris             first
22:16 chris             but we are killing master
22:16 chris             yes
22:16 |Lupin|           chris: when you clone a repo, arent the branches you get set-up to track the remote ones by default ?
22:16 pianohackr|work   any particular advantages for that over a simple rebase?
22:16 |Lupin|           ah the famour remote-tracking branches...
22:16 chris             (if i think there are going to be lots of conflicts)
22:15 chris             or cherry-pick even
22:15 chris             then you can merge from your branch, cherry-pick
22:15 chris             checkout -b master --track origin/master
22:15 chris             is branch, get rid of master
22:14 |Lupin|           pianohackr|work: I do
22:14 chris             what i do
22:13 pianohackr|work   if you insist
22:12 |Lupin|           pianohackr|work: hmm perhaps try the second method first !!!
22:12 pianohackr|work   nelsonf: OK. Does that have multiple notices set up for it at the same branch? (like 15 days, 30, and 45, for example)
22:11 nelsonf           pianohackr|work: I have one itemtype BK for multiple branches.
22:11 pianohackr|work   Well, you can either shoot yourself in the head, or rebase, test, what you can, and get ready to fix the tiny errors you've created; the first method is faster
22:11 |Lupin|           chris: ok
22:11 chris             rebase and fix any conflicts
22:10 |Lupin|           pianohackr|work: what's themethod in these situations ?
22:10 |Lupin|           pianohackr|work: oooooooh...
22:09 pianohackr|work   Oh, goodness. $ git-status # Your branch and 'origin/master' have diverged, # and have 47 and 734 different commit(s) each, respectively.
22:09 |Lupin|           anyone knows whether Galen could aleady catch up with all the patches ?
22:08 wizzyrea          yea, I was hoping to do that :(
22:08 chris             lemme try it
22:08 chris             says it was patched, no one has tested and marked it fixed yet
22:07 wizzyrea          which says it was fixed, can anyone confirm?
22:06 munin             04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3299 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, ASSIGNED, Sticky calendar renew date doesn't work
22:06 wizzyrea          BUT why I was really looking at that page was for  bug 3299
22:06 * brendan         feeling happy hour is coming early today
22:05 pianohackr|work   thanks wizzy :)
22:05 wizzyrea          ok I won't bother with it then
22:05 wizzyrea          phw: but I still love you
22:05 chris             owen fixed the cart thing too, there is a patch in the queue
22:05 pianohackr|work   I know, 30 lashes and all that
22:05 wizzyrea          PHW: naughty!
22:04 pianohackr|work   I think I might have fixed that bug for my site and never submitted it
22:04 pianohackr|work   Specifically, whether you have multiple rules for a given itemtype/branch
22:03 pianohackr|work   Yes
22:03 nelsonf           overdues setup - i.e. rules for various itemtypes at various branches?
22:02 wizzyrea          maybe it's fixed in the stuff owen did...
22:02 wizzyrea          ohhh should I file a bug?
22:01 pianohackr|work   nelsonf: Sorry for the delay; what is your overdues setup like?
22:01 brendan           yup that demo is on 3.01.00.100
22:00 * pianohackr|work wonders if this is due to the recent database updates
21:59 pianohackr|work   Uh-oh: http://demo-staff.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/circ/circulation.pl?borrowernumber=2642 (demo/demo)
21:57 pianohackr|work   Ahh, so you're on the latest broken cart button version. Let me see if I can find that problem elsewhere
21:57 wizzyrea          3.01.00.100
21:57 wizzyrea          looooking
21:56 pianohackr|work   What version are you on?
21:56 wizzyrea          lol
21:56 pianohackr|work   now, re: your actual problem :)
21:56 pianohackr|work   right
21:56 wizzyrea          I mean, why be wordy if you don't need to be
21:56 pianohackr|work   Wanted to emphasize that it was for both the staff and OPAC, but that could probably go in the description on the tools page
21:55 wizzyrea          PHW: Customize Interface?
21:54 pianohackr|work   ?
21:54 pianohackr|work   Maybe Tools -> Customize OPAC/Staff Interface
21:53 chris             fixinated
21:53 wizzyrea          yea, I agree PHW
21:53 pianohackr|work   I think the added HTML/JS/CSS prefs really ought to have their own page, on a slightly related topic, the sysprefs page is a weird place for them
21:53 nelsonf           pianohackr|work: I ran the perl script.  last line: returns 0 rows at /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/overdue_notices.pl line 370.
21:52 |Lupin|           pianohackr|work: I see... a vry good intuition !
21:52 wizzyrea          no, it's still the same
21:51 wizzyrea          yea, a couple of days ago... let me delete all of my intranet jquery (though none of the rest of it even goes close to this page)
21:50 pianohackr|work   wizzyrea: Something's very strange there. Have you updated recently?
21:50 pianohackr|work   I noticed that some of the files in your email had ccode, and others mc-ccode. Most importantly, given the error message zebraidx gave you, bib1.att (presumably the bib1 attset) did not have mc-ccode
21:49 |Lupin|           pianohackr|work: yeah me too ! may I ask what gave you the idea to do that ?
21:48 wizzyrea          well, the renew column has a 0 in it? and the tablesorter can sort Previous checkouts?
21:48 pianohackr|work   Cool! Glad it's working
21:48 |Lupin|           pianohackr|work: bingo !! it works now ! so good intuition, thanks !!!
21:48 pianohackr|work   wizzyrea: ?
21:48 wizzyrea          and what I thought caused it didn't :/
21:47 wizzyrea          actually, http://screencast.com/t/ODhmNzAwMz stands, that looks weird to me
21:47 pianohackr|work   So you would run perl -I /usr/share/koha/lib /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/overdue_notices.pl -t -n -v
21:47 pianohackr|work   okay, nvm, I see from your crontab output above it's standard
21:46 nelsonf           how about About Koha in the GUI?
21:46 |Lupin|           nelsonf: perhaps in misc/install_log ?
21:45 nelsonf           not sure, how do I find out?
21:44 pianohackr|work   nelsonf: How did you install koha? (standard,dev, or single)
21:44 |Lupin|           pianohackr|work: ohoh... strange I didn't se this file although I copy/pasted line by line...
21:44 nelsonf           oops, overdue_notices -v -n
21:44 nelsonf           sorry for the *very* newbie question, but do I simply type this on the command line?  # overdue-notices.pl -v -n
21:42 pianohackr|work   nelsonf: You can see what it's trying to send by running overdue_notices.pl with the -v and -n flags
21:42 pianohackr|work   |Lupin|: it did as of your email this morning...
21:42 wizzyrea          chris++
21:42 chris             sending a patch
21:42 nelsonf           pianohackr|work: it's been suggested that I've got an incorrect setting in the GUI.  Using 3.0  I've looked and looked in the admin settings, though.  piano: yes I've received mail.
21:42 chris             ok found the bug in updatedatabase
21:41 wizzyrea          false alarm!
21:41 wizzyrea          i know what happened there.
21:41 |Lupin|           pianohackr|work: bib1.att does not contain any occurrence of ccode... is hat okay or is it a problem ?
21:41 wizzyrea          scratch that
21:41 wizzyrea          OH OH, wait
21:41 wizzyrea          hmm, is there supposed to be a checkbox under renew? http://screencast.com/t/ODhmNzAwMz
21:41 pianohackr|work   nelsonf: can you send an email using mail?
21:40 nelsonf           yes, this line follows: perl -I /usr/share/koha/lib /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/process_message_queue.pl
21:40 chris             ah ha, that was upgradedatabase not fully working
21:39 pianohackr|work   nelsonf: You also have to run the process_message_queue.pl cronjob
21:39 nelsonf           Anyone willing to field a question or two about getting e-mail notifications to run?  I believe postfix is installed.  When I type crontab -l, I see the  following line: perl -I /usr/share/koha/lib /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/overdue_notices.pl -t
21:37 wizzyrea          yea, that'd break it, for sure
21:36 wizzyrea          heehee
21:36 chris             yeah, the bug is actually that i cant set a rule for it :)
21:36 pianohackr|work   |Lupin|: Try removing the mc-ccode ccode line from ccl.properties, then changing ccode to mc-ccode in ccl.properties and bib1.att, then reindexing from scratch with the -r flag
21:35 wizzyrea          it kind of has that settings thing look to it, to me
21:34 chris             wizzyrea: or it may just be a settings thing
21:34 wizzyrea          bleh that sucks lol
21:34 |Lupin|           pianohackr|work: erm... but what should I change to the configuration files ?
21:32 pianohackr|work   |Lupin|: That's probably your error right there
21:31 |Lupin|           hello chris :)
21:30 chris             its on my list
21:30 chris             wizzyrea: yep thats a real one, there is a bug in CanBookBeReserved
21:30 |Lupin|           is this a serious warning o can it be safely ignored ?
21:30 |Lupin|           22:24:06-11/12 zebraidx(15203) [warn] Index 'mc-ccode' not found in attset(s)
21:30 wizzyrea          hello |Lupin| :)
21:30 |Lupin|           cait: well, don't try too hard... :o)
21:29 |Lupin|           hey liz :)
21:29 munin             04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3864 blocker, P5, ---, henridamien@koha-fr.org, NEW, Cannot place holds in staff client
21:29 wizzyrea          nengard: bug 3864 ouch, really?
21:28 cait              i doubt I will find the patch I have in mind, but trying to
21:27 |Lupin|           cait: it would be rather strange, IMO
21:27 |Lupin|           cait: I may try to add an alphabetic ccode, then an item with that ccode and see if it works...
21:27 cait              im not sure about it - but perhaps its worth a try
21:26 |Lupin|           cait: oh ! I didn't realise using numbers could cuse a problem !
21:26 cait              I think i saw patches dealing with numbers in codes in other places, where this caused problems
21:25 cait              lupin: is it possible that it does not work because you use numbers as codes?
21:23 |Lupin|           pianohackr|work: do you perhaps know what the mc- in front of ccode means ?
21:23 |Lupin|           pianohackr|work: yep, I may try this, thanks
21:22 |Lupin|           does that look correct ?
21:22 |Lupin|           what Koha tries to search for is "mc-ccode:24"
21:22 pianohackr|work   lots of output, but some of it's occasionally helpful
21:22 pianohackr|work   You might try running the rebuild_zebra and zebrasrv with the -v flag
21:21 |Lupin|           pianohackr|work: yeah this is something I noticed, too... :)
21:21 pianohackr|work   not any obvious tips, unfortunately, zebra indexing is... touchy :/
21:20 |Lupin|           has anyone a clue re:the indexin problem I mentionned on the Koha list earlier today, pls ?
21:17 pianohackr|work   woohoo, balmy weather, t-shirts and shorts weather at last
21:17 munin             pianohackr|work: The current temperature in Franklin Ave - Downtown, Canon City, Colorado is 6.5�C (2:10 PM MST on December 11, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 31%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa (Falling).
21:16 pianohackr|work   @wunder 81212
21:16 imp               same ;)
21:16 munin             imp: The current temperature in Hannover, Germany is 3.0�C (9:50 PM CET on December 11, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 1.0�C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Steady).
21:16 imp               @wunder hannover germany
21:15 munin             cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 3.0�C (10:00 PM CET on December 11, 2009). Conditions: Heavy Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Rising).
21:15 cait              @wunder Konstanz
21:03 brendan           flash flood - oh joy munin
21:02 munin             brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 12.7�C (12:58 PM PST on December 11, 2009). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016.5 hPa (Falling).  Flash Flood Watch for the recent burn areas until 2 PM PST... 
21:02 brendan           @wunder 93117
21:00 |Lupin|           hello folks !
20:58 sekjal            cheers, all; time for a retirement party upstairs
20:57 * wizzyrea        faints... that's two in one week!
20:56 wizzyrea          ^.^
20:56 slef              RESOLVED FIXED :) wizzyrea++
20:54 wizzyrea          I got additional info that leads me to believe that it is fixed, not the least of which is that it works for us, and we are running on June code.
20:53 wizzyrea          kk ty
20:53 slef              wizzyrea: not yet
20:39 pianohackr|work   brb
20:24 brendan           ok need to turn the heat on here -- fingers are miss-typing all over the place
20:24 brendan           no worries either
20:23 brendan           sekjal++   no sorries
20:23 chris             :)
20:22 sekjal            almost there...
20:22 sekjal            brendan:  got held up on the email when a coworker came in asking for a brief serials tutorial
20:20 chris             :)
20:18 wizzyrea          I like this game!
20:15 chris             set that to 0 for your itemtype, and no reserves allowed, no longer a blocker, resolved fixed by work done with issuing and fine rules
20:15 chris             you can set reserves allowed count
20:14 chris             in the  /cgi-bin/koha/admin/smart-rules.pl
20:14 chris             ah yes
20:11 chris             wizzyrea: lemme look at the commits, do we have a separate column for not for hold now?
20:11 chris             heh
20:11 chris             ahhh
20:10 jdavidb           you suggested a certificate for a bug fixed...  :P
20:10 chris             brendan: http://www.wotzon.com/eventlisting.php?event_id=5024713
20:10 * jdavidb         is catching up with scrollback.
20:10 * chris           looks
20:10 jdavidb           chris, we'd need a whole case of paper to print all the certificates you'd get.
20:08 munin             04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2340 blocker, P3, ---, rch@liblime.com, NEW, Conflict with ability to place holds for notforloan status == -1 (item On Order)
20:08 wizzyrea          Is this still really a blocker? Did anyone follow through on the suggestions or is it "working enough for now" that it's really not blocking anything? bug 2340
20:06 wizzyrea          I hope it was clear enough >.<
20:05 wizzyrea          Yep. :)
20:05 chris             thanks wizzyrea
20:04 * wizzyrea        runs around in circles yelling "that! that! that!"
20:04 wizzyrea          that is
20:04 wizzyrea          that line of questioning
20:04 wizzyrea          I think (hope) I cleared that one up
20:03 wizzyrea          yes, it's a stupid name
20:00 nengard           well - i'm sorry - it's stupid name - just call it what it is - Koha
20:00 chris             lol now we have people confusing express and evegreen, this is madness
19:56 wizzyrea          that commit chris just linked claims to resolve it
19:56 munin             04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2332 blocker, P3, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, holds queue script should target as many items as are available
19:56 wizzyrea          slef: did you test bug 2332?
19:56 wizzyrea          done :)
19:53 nengard           most of which I have been able to fix myself
19:53 nengard           still finding little things here and there with acq & serials
19:53 nengard           oh - guess i don't need to try :)
19:52 wizzyrea          ohh, thank you for that chris
19:51 chris             there was a patch sent to fix it, and it was applied, id mark it patch sent and resolved fix wizzyrea
19:50 chris             http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=Koha;a=commit;h=516ba77b8b9d8cd40453253eedd46ca749d026d1
19:50 wizzyrea          i've missed my hold queue opportunities for today
19:49 nengard           iono but i can try it ...
19:48 wizzyrea          (and if that's true it's hell and gone fixed... heh)
19:48 wizzyrea          s/but/bug
19:47 wizzyrea          (sorry I was looking at slef's wonderful but analysis)
19:47 wizzyrea          I *think* it's working on our install, if I understand correctly the problem is that if you item level hold, that item won't show on the hold queue?
19:47 sekjal            brendan:  received
19:46 munin             04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2331 blocker, P1, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, holds queue report not working with item-level holds
19:46 wizzyrea          is this still a problem bug 2331
19:45 brendan           sekjal - mail on it's way
19:40 brendan           anyone else that is on the channel going to code4lib?
19:39 sekjal            brendan:  agreed.
19:39 brendan           sounds good -- let me write up some notes - I send them to you sekjal and then you can submit it to jodi
19:36 nengard           hehe
19:36 chris             maybe make up some certificates, every bug fixed earns you one :)
19:35 chris             sounds good to me
19:33 sekjal            so, we could do presentations in the first half of the day, discuss ideas and such, then tackle bugs/draft code in the second?
19:32 sekjal            yes, yes it would
19:32 brendan           would be good to get galen there and have him do a session on coding or on 3.2 roadmap release
19:32 brendan           gmcharlt you about?
19:31 brendan           you can talk about your ideas and roadmap for course reserves or something
19:31 sekjal            sounds good to me.
19:31 brendan           yeah let's say that we do a hackfest at code4lib
19:31 sekjal            hey
19:31 brendan           hi
19:31 sekjal            brendan: yes
19:30 brendan           sekjal - you about?
19:20 nengard           ah - email
19:19 cait              ah found it
19:19 chris             from jodi schneider .. code4lib conference
19:19 cait              chris: which mail?
19:19 chris             email just hit the mailing list
19:19 nengard           what koha preconf?
19:19 chris             +c
19:18 chris             hmm i wonder if sekjal would be interested in the koha preconferene
19:17 chris             ill leave that for someone else to answer
19:17 chris             oh man .. a koha express question ...
19:15 cait              but I think he gave up on the mailing lists
19:14 chris             i think ben uses that word, because he is so familiar with it, I can't think of a comment he has made that hasn't been derogatory
19:13 cait              had to look up derogatory
19:12 chris             i blame google reader :)
19:11 chris             hehe, so there is
19:09 cait              2 minutes betwen yours and nicoles comment :)
19:06 * cait            goes reading
19:06 cait              uh
19:05 chris             http://www.coloradolibraries.org/2009/12/07/aspencat-is-up-and-running-libraries-unite/
19:05 chris             cait: our friend ben is back
19:05 brendan           morning chris
19:04 cait              hiya chris :)
19:04 brendan           heya cait
19:04 chris             hiya cait
19:03 cait              hi #koha
19:00 wizzyrea          |
19:00 wizzyrea          that's interesting, I will fix the "no display" thing when I get back from lunch :)
18:59 collum            Not Cool.  Maybe I'll try another one.
18:59 wizzyrea          :(
18:59 wizzyrea          yea, that emulator doesn't show what's actually there
18:59 collum            Cool. Thanks.
18:59 wizzyrea          no, there's just a search box and login/logout boxes
18:56 collum            I evidently don't trust emulators.
18:55 collum            Should I be seeing more?
18:55 collum            wizzyrea: Until my boss gets me the iphone I have to use an emulator.  I'm using one at http://www.testiphone.com/
18:48 * owen            will have to take his answer off the air
18:45 owen              Is there a difference, in Koha terminology, between a supplier, a vendor, and a bookseller?
18:31 wizzyrea          um.. you would have to visit that link with your iphone or ipod touch :P
18:25 veryinky          Ah, sorry. Only been using koha for 2 weeks no, so it'd be surprising if I knew.
18:24 owen              veryinky: No, I'm just asking anyone who might know
18:22 veryinky          Was that for me?
18:19 owen              What information should display under the "serial data" column in the OPAC view of a serial title?
18:13 veryinky          I showed my boss the koha setup I did, he checked out some marc21 records. Asked if I could make it so they're entirely in french... "000 -LEADER " "020 ## - INTERNATIONAL STANDARD BOOK NUMBER " is that actually possible?
18:13 wizzyrea          flip your phone, it honors your orientation :P
18:12 wizzyrea          landing page is ez
18:12 wizzyrea          I think the very hard part will be formatting/using the results/detail pages
18:11 wizzyrea          i'm working on this atm :P
18:11 wizzyrea          wpmu.test.nekls.org/iphone
18:11 wizzyrea          heh
18:11 nengard           owne - i'm with you on that - kind of annoying - but we need people to volunteer to take them over :(
18:11 schuster          nengard - target.com - checks browser evidently ...
18:07 sekjal            like right now!
18:06 sekjal            I'll make time for lunch
18:06 sekjal            not lunch, the other thing.
18:06 veryinky          :|
18:06 sekjal            thing is, I know I could do it.... I just don't have enough time.
18:05 owen              Lunch is a much more manageable project
18:04 * sekjal          brings his mind back to reality, and contemplates lunch
18:04 sekjal            oh dear.  thinking about widgets in the staff client has spun into a complete redesign with AJAX and a whole new template/plugin system.
18:00 * owen            doesn't like that some Bugzilla components are still by default assigned to people who won't fix them
17:57 nengard           but clicking the links doesn't work
17:57 nengard           etc
17:57 nengard           it's a red page with a watchlist and a weekly schedule
17:56 nengard           yup
17:56 nengard           trying now
17:55 owen              nengard: How about http://app.showtime-app.com
17:54 sekjal            unfortunately, it's probably a lower priority on my institution's development list than other things
17:54 sekjal            nengard:  thinking about the data structure required right now.
17:53 nengard           owen - sorry had a conference call - I don't know - what's the URL for a page that is designed for the iphone that i can visit?
17:53 nengard           sekjal - love it - you gonna do it :) ?
17:46 sekjal            idea: for each of the <module>-home pages in the staff interface, enable a widgetizable Dashboard.  The system could be configured to display certain blocks with useful, realtime stats, work queues and important messages.
17:33 wizzyrea          owen: of course (she says, typing on her 21in iMac)
17:33 wizzyrea          lol
17:32 owen              The other interpretation would be all wrong for an Apple store right? ;)
17:32 wizzyrea          (POS = point of sale)
17:32 wizzyrea          owen actually at the apple store they have barcode/card scanners backpacked to ipod touches as POS devices
17:30 owen              hdl_laptop: I'm curious what circumstances would require that heading to be shown
17:28 owen              hdl_laptop: When I do a search for a subscription the search results page includes the heading "Search for Serial Routing List"
17:20 owen              Otherwise I don't think you can "attach" anything to an iPhone or iPod touch
17:19 owen              schuster: There are iphone apps which use the built-in camera as a scanner, I think
17:18 schuster          Has anyone seen a scanner that could be attached to an iphone or ipod touch?
17:10 slef              the beret brigate effect
17:09 slef              but you know, some designers will mess about for it because it's apple
17:09 slef              iphones seem a bit of a pig to code for - lots of special CSS and meta tags
17:08 jdavidb           Definitely *not* worth what I'm paying for it.  It's nice getting email in my pocket and all, but I'd give that up to get back the cash.
17:08 Ropuch            ;>
17:08 jdavidb           I don't place five calls a month on it, though.
17:08 Ropuch            '?
17:07 jdavidb           No, I have a Motorola Q9c, running WinMo.  It works *fine*, and makes a dandy mobile web browser.
17:07 Ropuch            I haven't got an opportunity to lay my hands on it yet
17:07 Ropuch            jdavidb: speaking of N900?
17:05 jdavidb           If I didn't have an early cancel penalty, I'd flush mine down the commode, and not get another one.
17:05 Ropuch            If only n900 wasn't so expensive... ;>
17:03 wizzyrea          you know, I adore my iPhone, but the droid kind of gets my gadget lust going
17:03 owen              I'm curious about whether your Blackberry gets served mobile sites designed for the iPhone
17:03 nengard           LOL
17:03 * jdavidb         cobbles up a Koha interface for Windows Mobile in his copious free time.
17:02 nengard           wish i was a droid user instead though ...
17:02 nengard           owen yes
17:02 owen              nengard: You're a Blackberry user aren't you?
17:02 jdavidb           lol
17:01 wizzyrea          staff "Cheer!"
17:01 owen              Staff: "Yay!"
17:01 owen              Boss "Oh no!"
17:01 owen              "sorry boss, the next Koha upgrade will require all staff to carry iPhones"
16:55 sekjal            and if that device can be something staff members already have on them, all the better
16:54 sekjal            it would be nice to be able to work with a handheld device in the stacks
16:54 wizzyrea          some won't like it because it's not android :P
16:54 wizzyrea          well
16:54 wizzyrea          or using the cam
16:54 wizzyrea          seems like such an elegant solution
16:53 wizzyrea          sekjal: I'm kind of on about this idea of the iPhone interface/iphone app/backpack barcode scanners for iPod touches
16:53 wizzyrea          sekjal: :D yes, it should be easier, and it can be, I know it can
16:52 munin             04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3908 normal, P5, ---, henridamien@koha-fr.org, NEW, Edit subscription page shows manual history block by default
16:52 owen              hdl_laptop: Reported. Bug 3908
16:52 Ropuch            Woo, new pootle
16:52 sekjal            messing with it will be part of my Monday
16:52 sekjal            after you mentioned it, it got me on a whole "make it easier to install and test Koha" kick
16:51 wizzyrea          I love turnkeylinux
16:51 wizzyrea          sekjal: definitely
16:50 sekjal            wizzyrea: I've been looking at turnkeylinux.org and how to make a Koha appliance.  If I have any success, perhaps that would help with the testing
16:49 slef              yes, I think I need to set up a copy of one of our libraries and try upgrading it to 3.2 instead of using toy examples that have simple holds and so on
16:48 wizzyrea          :(
16:48 wizzyrea          if we were on more current code I'd volunteer to test this as we have lots of holds/items
16:48 slef              wizzyrea: thanks
16:47 slef              oic
16:47 wizzyrea          yes the cronjob
16:47 slef              wizzyrea: the cronjob or something else?
16:47 hdl_laptop        owen: please do
16:47 wizzyrea          (sorry, we call the holds queue the pick list, I'll try to be more accurate)
16:47 wizzyrea          of the holds queue
16:47 slef              per run of what?
16:47 owen              hdl_laptop: No, I was about to file one.
16:47 wizzyrea          even if there are multiple items available to fill multiple holds at the same time
16:46 wizzyrea          slef: maybe he means that if there are multiple holds on an item, the holds pick list will only target one per run?
16:46 hdl_laptop        I will have someone see that.
16:46 hdl_laptop        owen: is there a bug for it ?
16:45 wizzyrea          ...not sure how you'd test it :(
16:45 wizzyrea          slef: there has been a lot of work in this area, I wonder if this bug is still valid
16:44 wizzyrea          yea, I consulted the list. I was sad.
16:44 munin             04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2332 blocker, P3, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, holds queue script should target as many items as are available
16:44 slef              can anyone explain bug 2332 to me more clearly?
16:44 hdl_laptop        nahuel went
16:41 wizzyrea          bah
16:40 owen              hdl_laptop: ...and in subscription_add.pl: history => ($op eq 'mod'),
16:40 munin             04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3897 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, nahuel.angelinetti@biblibre.com, ASSIGNED, Holds policies and CircControl
16:40 wizzyrea          bug 3897
16:40 munin             04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3987 was not found.
16:40 wizzyrea          bug 3987 what were the symptoms of this?
16:40 owen              The template checks for "history": <!--TMPL_IF Name="history"--> $("#subscription_form_history").show()
16:39 wizzyrea          nahuel: about?
16:39 owen              hdl_laptop: I notice when you edit a subscription the "manual history" block is visible, even if you did not create the subscription with "manual history" checked
16:38 hdl_laptop        yes
16:37 owen              hdl_laptop: Are you the person to ask about subscription-add.pl?
16:37 slef              owen: sure, everyone makes mistakes. I just had some time to browse the bugs (first time in ages)
16:36 slef              pasting link into bug
16:36 owen              slef: Sounds like we all need a reminder. I'm sure I'm guilty of it too..Probably today :)
16:36 slef              http://lists.koha.org/pipermail/koha-patches/2009-December/004975.html
16:35 slef              I can't think of a situation where PATCH-Sent NEW bugs should exist
16:35 hdl_laptop        Fixing suggestions management page,	Authorised values werent being passed through
16:35 slef              hdl_laptop: I think so too, but we've two bugs which are unassigned but patched, which seems wrong.
16:34 hdl_laptop        slef: I thought the assignee was meant to be the one who actually copes with the bug.
16:34 slef              hdl_laptop: I searched http://lists.koha.org/pipermail/koha-patches/2009-December/ for the bug number without finding it.
16:33 hdl_laptop        slef: sent on list.
16:33 slef              hdl_laptop: yes, so should it be assigned to him or you?  Also, where is the patch?
16:33 hdl_laptop        slef: he sent a patch for that.
16:29 munin             04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3848 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, henridamien@koha-fr.org, NEW, Suggestions - Reasons not showing
16:29 slef              should bug 3848 be reassigned to chris?
16:24 nengard           I think
16:24 nengard           that's wrong ...
16:24 owen              When I edit my subscription that block is open, but the manual history checkbox is unchecked. In this case checking the box hides the block
16:24 nengard           I've never clicked manual history
16:23 nengard           hey look at that :)
16:23 owen              nengard: The block that appears when you check the "manual history" checkbox.
16:23 nengard           everything I see open is supposed to be open
16:23 nengard           Hmm - what do you call the manual history box?
16:22 * indradg         is looking towards BibLibre stuff
16:22 * indradg         is looking for an easy answer about Koha and CAS, is there any examples out there?
16:21 nengard           owen - hang on - let me try to edit and see what you mean
16:21 owen              nengard: I notice that when I edit a subscription the "manual history" block is open. Is that to be expected, or a bug?
16:21 schuster          Open for suggestions...  My debian box isn't running a windows client so I'm doing it from command line - I've read a few other pages, but they all talk about the GUI Debian.
16:20 schuster          The other server seems to be rejecting my request?
16:20 schuster          I know this is beyond Koha - but I'm trying to fileshare with a windows server I have looked at this page http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-to-mount-remote-windows-partition-windows-share-under-linux.html but
16:02 nengard           sorry owen - didn't see the other question - yes, that's the bug
15:51 veryinky          The following fatal error has occurred: Can't call method "as_formatted" on an undefined value
15:51 veryinky          hrm
15:50 owen              Undefined subroutine &main::HasItems
15:48 owen              Hmmm... Can't delete a subscription.
15:47 munin             04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3285 critical, P5, ---, paul.poulain@biblibre.com, NEW, Location on Add Subscription should be pull down
15:47 owen              Oh I see, Bug 3285?
15:45 nengard           there is a chat transcript on that bug that says that
15:45 nengard           that's what I think we figured
15:45 owen              nengard: On the subscription add form, is the "Location" field mean to be "Shelving location?"
15:44 veryinky          When viewing a marc record.
15:44 veryinky          Empty String at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/catalogue/showmarc.pl line 74
15:43 owen              :|
15:43 veryinky          Damn it. Koha crashed.
15:41 wizzyrea_         heh
15:38 veryinky          At least you got your _ back.
15:36 jdavidb           :P
15:36 wizzyrea_         :P
15:36 wizzyrea_         lots of connecting/disconnecting
15:36 wizzyrea_         lol sorry I've been working on our new WAP
15:35 * jdavidb         velcroes wizzerea_ in place.
15:26 veryinky          (can edit vendors, but I want to delete one entirely)
15:25 veryinky          Is there an easy way to delete a vendor? I've found a lot of ways to delete patrons or users, but can't seem to find where vendors can be deleted or removed.
15:25 owen              wizzyrea__'s reception is getting better: she's up to 2 bars.
15:21 veryinky          :|
15:18 jdavidb           g'mornin', wizzyrea_. :)
15:03 imp               CGI639: ok, i don't know what happens there (have no experience with zebra so far), maybe someone else can help you
14:54 CGI639            imp: i issue commands but it show no progress but hanged
14:35 owen              Hi eiro
14:35 eiro              hello all
14:33 imp               CGI639: ... ${koha} is still not set.... just replace it with koha (you said some time before, your kohauser ist just koha)
14:33 CGI639            actually this command is written in the part of 'configure and start zebra -> Zebraqueue Daemon'  in documentation
14:31 CGI639            imp: same thing occur..  http://pastebin.org/63524
14:25 imp               and issue the command there again
14:25 imp               so, if it's the installation part, go into your koha-3.00.04_fixed folder
14:23 CGI639            yeah installaion part. I m insallation koha-3.00.04_fixed on debian-lenny
14:22 imp               the command you try to use is still from the installation part, or?
14:21 CGI639            and 'ls|grep koha' return nothing
14:21 CGI639            'ls misc' return  'koha-install-log   translator'
14:20 CGI639            Im now in usr/share/koha
14:19 CGI639            imp: wht shoud I do?
14:13 CGI639            I have intalled koha in default location and did not change it
14:12 CGI639            yeah pwd return /usr/share
14:12 imp               CGI639: and "pwd" returns /usr/share/ ? don't think you got the right folder.... but i dont know what you've done so far
14:10 nengard           owen - yeah .. hmmm okay - by 2011 :) hehe
14:10 hdl_laptop        nengard++ and jransom++ too
14:08 CGI639            and 'ls misc' return 'magic magic.mgc magic.mime pci.ids usb.ids'
14:07 CGI639            return: 'koha'
14:07 CGI639            'imp: ls | grep koha'
14:05 owen              That goal conflicts with a trip to KohaCon 2010 (unless I consider that my Perl class!)
14:05 nengard           owen wish i could fix more of these bugs that i'm reporting - goal for 2010 - both of us (you and me) save up enough for Perl classes ;)
14:01 imp               use "cd /path/to/your/kohainstall" and then try it again...
14:00 imp               no big surprise that you cannot run the commands
14:00 CGI639            ls: cannot access misc: no such file or directory
13:58 imp               and "ls misc" ?
13:58 CGI639            imp: nothing
13:57 imp               CGI639: what does "ls | grep koha" print?
13:56 CGI639            and I extract there koha installation files
13:56 CGI639            my home directory is /home/nouman
13:56 munin             nicomo: The current temperature in Feyzin, Feyzin, France is 8.6�C (2:00 PM CET on December 11, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Windchill: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1022.9 hPa (Steady).
13:56 nicomo            @wunder lyon france
13:56 owen              jransom++ # for bug reports!
13:55 owen              nengard++ # for bug reports!
13:55 CGI639            'koha' is the username of  my koha
13:55 CGI639            imp: i also replaced 'the usernamehere' with koha but same thing appear
13:45 nengard           you can always tell what part of the manual I'm working on by reading the bug reports I'm putting in :)  today it's serials
13:43 imp               and your prompt says, you are inside your home directory - did you extract the koha installationfiles right there, not inside a subfolder?
13:41 imp               CGI639: you have to replace "theusernamehere" with the username you gave koha....
13:39 CGI639            imp: http://pastebin.org/63511
13:38 imp               heyho owen
13:37 owen              Hi #koha
13:35 CGI639            I tried but not working these commands
13:33 imp               or put infront of the command: koha=theusernamehere sudo -u ...
13:32 imp               guess you need to replace ${koha} with the actual koha username
13:32 CGI639            how can I set it?
13:32 imp               the variable $koha is not set, so your shell uses the path as username (which is bad)
13:30 CGI639            http://pastebin.org/63507
13:30 imp               CGI639: maybe. describe your problem
13:27 CGI639            imp: could u with me as I can complete the koha
13:25 imp               (that's the reason why you cannot start another one)
13:24 imp               CGI639: you've got already a zebraserv running
13:10 CGI639            hdl_laptop: I have tried this happen. Im unable to understand it. http://pastebin.org/63500
13:03 CGI639            imp:ok
12:46 imp               CGI639: see the one hdl_laptop posted, and please do not use coloured text for messages here
12:45 hdl_laptop        ps ax |grep zebra
12:45 CGI639            04imp>>01how can I check plz tell me commands
12:44 CGI639            I have run and completed web installer also
12:44 CGI639            hdl_laptop: so wht should I do?
12:43 hdl_laptop        CGI639: or you have permission problems on this directory
12:43 hdl_laptop        CGI639: either zebra is already launched, or you have socket files already polluting your var/run/zebradb/ directory
12:41 imp               CGI639: check if it's already running, if not -> try to delete the files (the ones it's complaining about) and try again
12:37 CGI639            ??
12:37 CGI639            is there any one to help me
12:19 CGI639            It show fatal http://pastebin.org/63465
12:19 CGI639            when I want to run sudo -u koha zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml
12:07 CGI285            above command is not working it show fatal http://pastebin.org/63456
12:06 CGI285            'sudo -u koha zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml'
12:06 CGI285            I have prob
12:06 CGI285            I have problem in zebra configuration
12:02 Amit              hi imp
12:02 imp               thanks Amit :)
12:02 imp               think there are still some hours of work left ;)
12:01 Amit              happy weekend to all
11:22 CGI285            any one there to help me??
10:08 CGI285            how can I fix this error of zebra
10:08 CGI285            Genji:
10:08 CGI285            Genji: ok,
10:05 Genji             Ajax based web client
10:04 Genji             CGI285: one way to possiblly fix your irc disconnecting problem. http://www.mibbit.com
10:03 CGI285            how can I fix it? I have completed web installer
10:02 CGI285            it show fatal http://pastebin.org/63465
10:02 CGI285            when I want to configure zebra by 'sudo -u koha zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml'
09:52 |Lupin|           bbl
09:47 |Lupin|           guten tag kf :)
09:44 kf                Guten morgen Lupin
09:43 |Lupin|           hi
08:57 kf                Guten Morgen Ropuch
08:56 Ropuch            Guten Morgen kf, hi Genji
08:56 Ropuch            >
08:55 Genji             Good to see katipo back in koha action... and in #koha.
08:54 kf                good morning :)
08:54 Genji             rach++
08:54 Genji             omg, hi rach!
07:28 Ropuch            Morning #koha
06:57 Genji             Wow, the private library im working for, is installing koha on a dedicated quad core. its going to rock.
06:49 pianohacker       night
04:35 brendan           it looks like you'll need an update to get that to work again
04:29 Amit              no
04:29 brendan           Amit - in your system preferences do you see a spot for AWSPrivateKey
04:28 Amit              brendan: so i should apply this patch on 3.02
04:24 brendan           back
04:21 pianohacker       be back in a second
04:19 Amit              brendan
04:19 Amit              bbias means
04:19 brendan           bbias
04:18 brendan           :)
04:18 brendan           or if you have a more graceful way of saying it
04:18 brendan           pianohacker fill in if I'm wrong
04:18 brendan           is the important part
04:18 brendan           yup -- After 2009-08-15
04:17 Amit              i m also seeing http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=Koha;a=commit;h=54f7ca4d3b528324b127df4bebf3e05a08830235
04:17 Amit              ok
04:17 brendan           you need to get a - AWSPrivateKey
04:17 brendan           you need to get a See: http://aws.amazon.com. Note that this is required after 2009/08/15 in order to retrieve any enhanced content other than book covers from Amazon.
04:16 Amit              k
04:16 brendan           sorry Amit - just read your post right now
04:16 Amit              so amazon cover is not appear on normal view
04:15 Amit              no i m using 3.0.2 one of our customer
04:15 brendan           Amit are you on HEAD
04:15 brendan           yeah that's a bug in the current HEAD
04:15 Amit              brendan: i m getting this error http://old.nabble.com/Amazon-jackets-not-working-in-3.00.02-td24169316.html
04:14 Amit              heya brendan
04:14 brendan           got it right that time :)
04:14 pianohacker       Hi brendan
04:14 brendan           hi pianohacker
04:14 brendan           hi Amit
04:01 Amit              hi pianohacker
03:59 pianohacker       hi, Amit
03:35 Amit              good morning @koha
03:35 Amit              heya chris, chris_n2
02:33 pennmanor         test
02:11 chris             as soon as a 3.2.x branch is made, then it can go into master
02:11 chris             and i
02:11 chris             galen
02:01 brendan           obviously (I'll make a note of it so it gets put somewhere)
02:00 brendan           silly question - who keeps track of that?
02:00 brendan           so mdhafen's patch is consider a new enhancement - so it doesn't get into 3.2?
01:27 Genji             Ah
01:27 chris             since joshua was last on here
01:27 Genji             Hmm?
01:26 chris             276 days
01:24 Genji             Wish we could edit liblimes wiki.. but we don't have any independant, non-original research.
01:23 Genji             liblime-- # No communication.
01:01 imp               k
01:00 chris             probably not, but even they did, they havent been on here for months anyway
00:59 imp               do they use the host for their own irc stuff too?
00:57 chris             LL don't care
00:57 chris             i doubt it
00:57 imp               yeah, but maybe it can speedup the removal of the script
00:57 chris             having one that you cant use, seems pointless
00:56 chris             id rather just remove the script
00:56 chris             we could but they'd still be on the server then
00:55 imp               (but it might be mistaken if somebody can not join)
00:55 chris_n2          any thoughts?
00:55 chris_n2          and it may be a file permission problem
00:55 imp               chris: can't we just ban the cgi script? (at least the default names, CGI*, guess the ones who setup a name there, behave much better :)
00:55 chris_n2          it appears that foo.pl is not being reached
00:54 chris_n2          there are no helpful lines in any of the logs
00:54 chris_n2          the 500 error is *not* the koha 500 error page
00:54 chris_n2          once at the home page, clicking on any link results in a 500 error
00:53 chris_n2          I can log into the staff interface fine
00:53 chris_n2          I've some weirdness with koha on win32 as a dev install which did not occur when installed in a single directory
00:17 chris             very cool
00:12 chris_n2          it allows sync of patrons with another db
00:12 chris             oh yeah, that is sweet
00:11 chris             hmmm lemme look
00:11 chris_n2          patron sync tool
00:11 chris             oh, i mighta missed that one, what was it?
00:10 chris_n2          wow... nice feature by michael hafen
00:09 chris_n2          yeah, I think she sort of missed the point of my response
00:08 chris             i couldnt really think of any other way to say it
00:08 chris_n2          chris: nice response to andrea's post
00:06 chris             theres been tons of it lately
00:06 * chris_n2        catches up on the mail
00:05 chris_n2          tired, but fine otherwise
00:05 chris             heya chris_n2
00:03 chris_n2          g'evening
00:02 chris             back