Time Nick Message 23:47 pianohackr|work Am waiting to figure that out until I have a better idea where I'm going and how that would work 23:47 pianohackr|work that's the thing 23:36 brendan most likely that would be in the middle of your first semester in college - so I wasn't sure 23:36 brendan whoops pianohackr|work 23:35 brendan hey pianohacker - did you ever think about going to kohacon10 ? 23:35 munin brendan: The current temperature in Brisbane Airport M. O, Queensland is 27.0�C (9:00 AM EST on December 12, 2009). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Rising). 23:35 brendan @wunder brisbane, australia 23:34 brendan that's how it should be :) 23:33 munin brendan: Karma for "buddha" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1. 23:33 brendan @karma buddha 23:33 brendan buddha++ 23:11 munin pianohackr|work: buddha has neutral karma. 23:11 pianohackr|work @karma buddha 23:10 joetho ha ha ha 23:10 munin joetho: cmon_nobody_REALLY has neutral karma. 23:10 joetho @karma cmon_nobody_REALLY 23:10 * chris_n2 throws more logs on the fire 23:09 munin chris_n2: The current temperature in Moore Farm, Four Oaks, North Carolina is -0.3�C (6:07 PM EST on December 11, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: -8.0�C. Windchill: 0.0�C. Pressure: 30.47 in 1031.7 hPa (Falling). 23:09 chris_n2 @wunder 28334 23:09 munin joetho: madeupnamecouldbeanyone has neutral karma. 23:09 joetho @karma madeupnamecouldbeanyone 23:09 munin joetho: johnindy has neutral karma. 23:09 joetho @karma johnindy 23:09 joetho well I guess it could be worse 23:08 munin joetho: joetho has neutral karma. 23:08 joetho @karma joetho 22:46 wizzyrea we got an arctic screamer early this week, so cold they closed school in a lot of places 22:46 wizzyrea PHW: yes, it has been crazy cold 22:45 pianohackr|work wizzyrea: Has it been insanely cold in kansas lately? We've been getting sub-0°F temps at night lately 22:43 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 12.4�C (2:38 PM PST on December 11, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015.1 hPa (Falling). 22:43 brendan @wunder 93117 22:43 munin brendan: Error: No such location could be found. 22:43 brendan @wunder 93317 22:43 wizzyrea brr. 22:42 munin wizzyrea: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is 2.0�C (4:41 PM CST on December 11, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 30.17 in 1021.6 hPa (Steady). 22:42 wizzyrea @wunder 66047 22:42 munin wizzyrea: Highest karma: "chris" (91), "owen" (67), and "gmcharlt" (67). Lowest karma: "<!" (-27), "failed" (-20), and "-" (-11). You (wizzyrea) are ranked 10 out of 612. 22:42 wizzyrea @karma 22:37 wizzyrea aha, it's case insensitive, nice 22:36 munin wizzyrea: Karma for "LibLime" has been increased 0 times and decreased 7 times for a total karma of -7. 22:36 wizzyrea @karma LibLime 22:36 wizzyrea yikes 22:36 munin wizzyrea: Karma for "liblime" has been increased 0 times and decreased 7 times for a total karma of -7. 22:36 wizzyrea @karma liblime 22:36 wizzyrea ooh 9 short of 100 ;) 22:36 Genji liblime-- 22:36 munin wizzyrea: Karma for "chris" has been increased 91 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 91. 22:36 wizzyrea @karma chris 22:36 Genji catalyst++ 22:36 Genji katipo++ 22:36 Genji chris++ 22:35 brendan not you 22:35 brendan yup 22:35 brendan you chris++ 22:35 wizzyrea fixing stuff all over the place 22:35 wizzyrea man, chris is on fire today 22:32 |Lupin| ok, enough chatting for today, bye all. 22:32 |Lupin| there will be a tibetan name to replace it :) 22:31 |Lupin| this name will soon be out of use :) 22:31 |Lupin| :) 22:31 pianohackr|work you too, sébastien 22:31 |Lupin| good end of day jese, take care 22:30 pianohackr|work Hehe 22:30 |Lupin| tomorrow, one-person-hackfest, I'll be allowed to cooooode ! 22:30 pianohackr|work Good night 22:29 |Lupin| ok, time for me to go sleeping 22:27 nelsonf wildew 22:26 pianohackr|work nelsonf: Good luck, feel free to bug me again if that doesn't help :) 22:26 nelsonf excellent, thanks. have a swell weekend everyone ... 22:24 pianohackr|work yup 22:23 nelsonf done. now I check out a book due tomorrow, then wait until sunday (Delay 1) to see if it works? 22:22 pianohackr|work Same for second and third at cfce, for now 22:22 pianohackr|work Yup 22:22 nelsonf In Default should I just clear everything out, an set each of the three triggers to Delay : null and No Notice? 22:21 pianohackr|work nelsonf: try cutting it down to just the First at CFCE 22:20 wizzyrea I keep forgetting today is friday 22:20 nelsonf I have settings on both DEFAULT and branch CFCE. Originally I had just CFCE. 22:19 chris bbiab 22:19 chris ok gotta go finish building bunk beds 22:18 |Lupin| chris++ 22:18 |Lupin| yeah 22:18 pianohackr|work cool. thanks for your best practices, they are appreciated :) 22:18 chris then just rebase 22:18 pianohackr|work Assuming I do want all the changes? 22:17 chris pianohackr|work: it depends if you want all your changes and/or you have fears of tons of conflicts 22:17 nelsonf pianohackr|work: Im testing with one patron category, superlibrarian LIB-S. At Home | Tools | Notice Triggers I have First : Delay 1 (Overdue Notice), then Second : Delay 2(Overdue Notice) to make testing easier... Today I added Third: Delay 3 (Overdue Notice). There is a second patron type that is above the LIB-S. 22:17 chris git branch -D master (after you have branched it) 22:17 chris ie branch 22:17 chris first 22:16 chris but we are killing master 22:16 chris yes 22:16 |Lupin| chris: when you clone a repo, arent the branches you get set-up to track the remote ones by default ? 22:16 pianohackr|work any particular advantages for that over a simple rebase? 22:16 |Lupin| ah the famour remote-tracking branches... 22:16 chris (if i think there are going to be lots of conflicts) 22:15 chris or cherry-pick even 22:15 chris then you can merge from your branch, cherry-pick 22:15 chris checkout -b master --track origin/master 22:15 chris is branch, get rid of master 22:14 |Lupin| pianohackr|work: I do 22:14 chris what i do 22:13 pianohackr|work if you insist 22:12 |Lupin| pianohackr|work: hmm perhaps try the second method first !!! 22:12 pianohackr|work nelsonf: OK. Does that have multiple notices set up for it at the same branch? (like 15 days, 30, and 45, for example) 22:11 nelsonf pianohackr|work: I have one itemtype BK for multiple branches. 22:11 pianohackr|work Well, you can either shoot yourself in the head, or rebase, test, what you can, and get ready to fix the tiny errors you've created; the first method is faster 22:11 |Lupin| chris: ok 22:11 chris rebase and fix any conflicts 22:10 |Lupin| pianohackr|work: what's themethod in these situations ? 22:10 |Lupin| pianohackr|work: oooooooh... 22:09 pianohackr|work Oh, goodness. $ git-status # Your branch and 'origin/master' have diverged, # and have 47 and 734 different commit(s) each, respectively. 22:09 |Lupin| anyone knows whether Galen could aleady catch up with all the patches ? 22:08 wizzyrea yea, I was hoping to do that :( 22:08 chris lemme try it 22:08 chris says it was patched, no one has tested and marked it fixed yet 22:07 wizzyrea which says it was fixed, can anyone confirm? 22:06 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3299 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, ASSIGNED, Sticky calendar renew date doesn't work 22:06 wizzyrea BUT why I was really looking at that page was for bug 3299 22:06 * brendan feeling happy hour is coming early today 22:05 pianohackr|work thanks wizzy :) 22:05 wizzyrea ok I won't bother with it then 22:05 wizzyrea phw: but I still love you 22:05 chris owen fixed the cart thing too, there is a patch in the queue 22:05 pianohackr|work I know, 30 lashes and all that 22:05 wizzyrea PHW: naughty! 22:04 pianohackr|work I think I might have fixed that bug for my site and never submitted it 22:04 pianohackr|work Specifically, whether you have multiple rules for a given itemtype/branch 22:03 pianohackr|work Yes 22:03 nelsonf overdues setup - i.e. rules for various itemtypes at various branches? 22:02 wizzyrea maybe it's fixed in the stuff owen did... 22:02 wizzyrea ohhh should I file a bug? 22:01 pianohackr|work nelsonf: Sorry for the delay; what is your overdues setup like? 22:01 brendan yup that demo is on 3.01.00.100 22:00 * pianohackr|work wonders if this is due to the recent database updates 21:59 pianohackr|work Uh-oh: http://demo-staff.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/circ/circulation.pl?borrowernumber=2642 (demo/demo) 21:57 pianohackr|work Ahh, so you're on the latest broken cart button version. Let me see if I can find that problem elsewhere 21:57 wizzyrea 3.01.00.100 21:57 wizzyrea looooking 21:56 pianohackr|work What version are you on? 21:56 wizzyrea lol 21:56 pianohackr|work now, re: your actual problem :) 21:56 pianohackr|work right 21:56 wizzyrea I mean, why be wordy if you don't need to be 21:56 pianohackr|work Wanted to emphasize that it was for both the staff and OPAC, but that could probably go in the description on the tools page 21:55 wizzyrea PHW: Customize Interface? 21:54 pianohackr|work ? 21:54 pianohackr|work Maybe Tools -> Customize OPAC/Staff Interface 21:53 chris fixinated 21:53 wizzyrea yea, I agree PHW 21:53 pianohackr|work I think the added HTML/JS/CSS prefs really ought to have their own page, on a slightly related topic, the sysprefs page is a weird place for them 21:53 nelsonf pianohackr|work: I ran the perl script. last line: returns 0 rows at /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/overdue_notices.pl line 370. 21:52 |Lupin| pianohackr|work: I see... a vry good intuition ! 21:52 wizzyrea no, it's still the same 21:51 wizzyrea yea, a couple of days ago... let me delete all of my intranet jquery (though none of the rest of it even goes close to this page) 21:50 pianohackr|work wizzyrea: Something's very strange there. Have you updated recently? 21:50 pianohackr|work I noticed that some of the files in your email had ccode, and others mc-ccode. Most importantly, given the error message zebraidx gave you, bib1.att (presumably the bib1 attset) did not have mc-ccode 21:49 |Lupin| pianohackr|work: yeah me too ! may I ask what gave you the idea to do that ? 21:48 wizzyrea well, the renew column has a 0 in it? and the tablesorter can sort Previous checkouts? 21:48 pianohackr|work Cool! Glad it's working 21:48 |Lupin| pianohackr|work: bingo !! it works now ! so good intuition, thanks !!! 21:48 pianohackr|work wizzyrea: ? 21:48 wizzyrea and what I thought caused it didn't :/ 21:47 wizzyrea actually, http://screencast.com/t/ODhmNzAwMz stands, that looks weird to me 21:47 pianohackr|work So you would run perl -I /usr/share/koha/lib /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/overdue_notices.pl -t -n -v 21:47 pianohackr|work okay, nvm, I see from your crontab output above it's standard 21:46 nelsonf how about About Koha in the GUI? 21:46 |Lupin| nelsonf: perhaps in misc/install_log ? 21:45 nelsonf not sure, how do I find out? 21:44 pianohackr|work nelsonf: How did you install koha? (standard,dev, or single) 21:44 |Lupin| pianohackr|work: ohoh... strange I didn't se this file although I copy/pasted line by line... 21:44 nelsonf oops, overdue_notices -v -n 21:44 nelsonf sorry for the *very* newbie question, but do I simply type this on the command line? # overdue-notices.pl -v -n 21:42 pianohackr|work nelsonf: You can see what it's trying to send by running overdue_notices.pl with the -v and -n flags 21:42 pianohackr|work |Lupin|: it did as of your email this morning... 21:42 wizzyrea chris++ 21:42 chris sending a patch 21:42 nelsonf pianohackr|work: it's been suggested that I've got an incorrect setting in the GUI. Using 3.0 I've looked and looked in the admin settings, though. piano: yes I've received mail. 21:42 chris ok found the bug in updatedatabase 21:41 wizzyrea false alarm! 21:41 wizzyrea i know what happened there. 21:41 |Lupin| pianohackr|work: bib1.att does not contain any occurrence of ccode... is hat okay or is it a problem ? 21:41 wizzyrea scratch that 21:41 wizzyrea OH OH, wait 21:41 wizzyrea hmm, is there supposed to be a checkbox under renew? http://screencast.com/t/ODhmNzAwMz 21:41 pianohackr|work nelsonf: can you send an email using mail? 21:40 nelsonf yes, this line follows: perl -I /usr/share/koha/lib /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/process_message_queue.pl 21:40 chris ah ha, that was upgradedatabase not fully working 21:39 pianohackr|work nelsonf: You also have to run the process_message_queue.pl cronjob 21:39 nelsonf Anyone willing to field a question or two about getting e-mail notifications to run? I believe postfix is installed. When I type crontab -l, I see the following line: perl -I /usr/share/koha/lib /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/overdue_notices.pl -t 21:37 wizzyrea yea, that'd break it, for sure 21:36 wizzyrea heehee 21:36 chris yeah, the bug is actually that i cant set a rule for it :) 21:36 pianohackr|work |Lupin|: Try removing the mc-ccode ccode line from ccl.properties, then changing ccode to mc-ccode in ccl.properties and bib1.att, then reindexing from scratch with the -r flag 21:35 wizzyrea it kind of has that settings thing look to it, to me 21:34 chris wizzyrea: or it may just be a settings thing 21:34 wizzyrea bleh that sucks lol 21:34 |Lupin| pianohackr|work: erm... but what should I change to the configuration files ? 21:32 pianohackr|work |Lupin|: That's probably your error right there 21:31 |Lupin| hello chris :) 21:30 chris its on my list 21:30 chris wizzyrea: yep thats a real one, there is a bug in CanBookBeReserved 21:30 |Lupin| is this a serious warning o can it be safely ignored ? 21:30 |Lupin| 22:24:06-11/12 zebraidx(15203) [warn] Index 'mc-ccode' not found in attset(s) 21:30 wizzyrea hello |Lupin| :) 21:30 |Lupin| cait: well, don't try too hard... :o) 21:29 |Lupin| hey liz :) 21:29 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3864 blocker, P5, ---, henridamien@koha-fr.org, NEW, Cannot place holds in staff client 21:29 wizzyrea nengard: bug 3864 ouch, really? 21:28 cait i doubt I will find the patch I have in mind, but trying to 21:27 |Lupin| cait: it would be rather strange, IMO 21:27 |Lupin| cait: I may try to add an alphabetic ccode, then an item with that ccode and see if it works... 21:27 cait im not sure about it - but perhaps its worth a try 21:26 |Lupin| cait: oh ! I didn't realise using numbers could cuse a problem ! 21:26 cait I think i saw patches dealing with numbers in codes in other places, where this caused problems 21:25 cait lupin: is it possible that it does not work because you use numbers as codes? 21:23 |Lupin| pianohackr|work: do you perhaps know what the mc- in front of ccode means ? 21:23 |Lupin| pianohackr|work: yep, I may try this, thanks 21:22 |Lupin| does that look correct ? 21:22 |Lupin| what Koha tries to search for is "mc-ccode:24" 21:22 pianohackr|work lots of output, but some of it's occasionally helpful 21:22 pianohackr|work You might try running the rebuild_zebra and zebrasrv with the -v flag 21:21 |Lupin| pianohackr|work: yeah this is something I noticed, too... :) 21:21 pianohackr|work not any obvious tips, unfortunately, zebra indexing is... touchy :/ 21:20 |Lupin| has anyone a clue re:the indexin problem I mentionned on the Koha list earlier today, pls ? 21:17 pianohackr|work woohoo, balmy weather, t-shirts and shorts weather at last 21:17 munin pianohackr|work: The current temperature in Franklin Ave - Downtown, Canon City, Colorado is 6.5�C (2:10 PM MST on December 11, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 31%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa (Falling). 21:16 pianohackr|work @wunder 81212 21:16 imp same ;) 21:16 munin imp: The current temperature in Hannover, Germany is 3.0�C (9:50 PM CET on December 11, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 1.0�C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Steady). 21:16 imp @wunder hannover germany 21:15 munin cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 3.0�C (10:00 PM CET on December 11, 2009). Conditions: Heavy Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Rising). 21:15 cait @wunder Konstanz 21:03 brendan flash flood - oh joy munin 21:02 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 12.7�C (12:58 PM PST on December 11, 2009). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016.5 hPa (Falling). Flash Flood Watch for the recent burn areas until 2 PM PST... 21:02 brendan @wunder 93117 21:00 |Lupin| hello folks ! 20:58 sekjal cheers, all; time for a retirement party upstairs 20:57 * wizzyrea faints... that's two in one week! 20:56 wizzyrea ^.^ 20:56 slef RESOLVED FIXED :) wizzyrea++ 20:54 wizzyrea I got additional info that leads me to believe that it is fixed, not the least of which is that it works for us, and we are running on June code. 20:53 wizzyrea kk ty 20:53 slef wizzyrea: not yet 20:39 pianohackr|work brb 20:24 brendan ok need to turn the heat on here -- fingers are miss-typing all over the place 20:24 brendan no worries either 20:23 brendan sekjal++ no sorries 20:23 chris :) 20:22 sekjal almost there... 20:22 sekjal brendan: got held up on the email when a coworker came in asking for a brief serials tutorial 20:20 chris :) 20:18 wizzyrea I like this game! 20:15 chris set that to 0 for your itemtype, and no reserves allowed, no longer a blocker, resolved fixed by work done with issuing and fine rules 20:15 chris you can set reserves allowed count 20:14 chris in the /cgi-bin/koha/admin/smart-rules.pl 20:14 chris ah yes 20:11 chris wizzyrea: lemme look at the commits, do we have a separate column for not for hold now? 20:11 chris heh 20:11 chris ahhh 20:10 jdavidb you suggested a certificate for a bug fixed... :P 20:10 chris brendan: http://www.wotzon.com/eventlisting.php?event_id=5024713 20:10 * jdavidb is catching up with scrollback. 20:10 * chris looks 20:10 jdavidb chris, we'd need a whole case of paper to print all the certificates you'd get. 20:08 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2340 blocker, P3, ---, rch@liblime.com, NEW, Conflict with ability to place holds for notforloan status == -1 (item On Order) 20:08 wizzyrea Is this still really a blocker? Did anyone follow through on the suggestions or is it "working enough for now" that it's really not blocking anything? bug 2340 20:06 wizzyrea I hope it was clear enough >.< 20:05 wizzyrea Yep. :) 20:05 chris thanks wizzyrea 20:04 * wizzyrea runs around in circles yelling "that! that! that!" 20:04 wizzyrea that is 20:04 wizzyrea that line of questioning 20:04 wizzyrea I think (hope) I cleared that one up 20:03 wizzyrea yes, it's a stupid name 20:00 nengard well - i'm sorry - it's stupid name - just call it what it is - Koha 20:00 chris lol now we have people confusing express and evegreen, this is madness 19:56 wizzyrea that commit chris just linked claims to resolve it 19:56 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2332 blocker, P3, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, holds queue script should target as many items as are available 19:56 wizzyrea slef: did you test bug 2332? 19:56 wizzyrea done :) 19:53 nengard most of which I have been able to fix myself 19:53 nengard still finding little things here and there with acq & serials 19:53 nengard oh - guess i don't need to try :) 19:52 wizzyrea ohh, thank you for that chris 19:51 chris there was a patch sent to fix it, and it was applied, id mark it patch sent and resolved fix wizzyrea 19:50 chris http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=Koha;a=commit;h=516ba77b8b9d8cd40453253eedd46ca749d026d1 19:50 wizzyrea i've missed my hold queue opportunities for today 19:49 nengard iono but i can try it ... 19:48 wizzyrea (and if that's true it's hell and gone fixed... heh) 19:48 wizzyrea s/but/bug 19:47 wizzyrea (sorry I was looking at slef's wonderful but analysis) 19:47 wizzyrea I *think* it's working on our install, if I understand correctly the problem is that if you item level hold, that item won't show on the hold queue? 19:47 sekjal brendan: received 19:46 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2331 blocker, P1, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, holds queue report not working with item-level holds 19:46 wizzyrea is this still a problem bug 2331 19:45 brendan sekjal - mail on it's way 19:40 brendan anyone else that is on the channel going to code4lib? 19:39 sekjal brendan: agreed. 19:39 brendan sounds good -- let me write up some notes - I send them to you sekjal and then you can submit it to jodi 19:36 nengard hehe 19:36 chris maybe make up some certificates, every bug fixed earns you one :) 19:35 chris sounds good to me 19:33 sekjal so, we could do presentations in the first half of the day, discuss ideas and such, then tackle bugs/draft code in the second? 19:32 sekjal yes, yes it would 19:32 brendan would be good to get galen there and have him do a session on coding or on 3.2 roadmap release 19:32 brendan gmcharlt you about? 19:31 brendan you can talk about your ideas and roadmap for course reserves or something 19:31 sekjal sounds good to me. 19:31 brendan yeah let's say that we do a hackfest at code4lib 19:31 sekjal hey 19:31 brendan hi 19:31 sekjal brendan: yes 19:30 brendan sekjal - you about? 19:20 nengard ah - email 19:19 cait ah found it 19:19 chris from jodi schneider .. code4lib conference 19:19 cait chris: which mail? 19:19 chris email just hit the mailing list 19:19 nengard what koha preconf? 19:19 chris +c 19:18 chris hmm i wonder if sekjal would be interested in the koha preconferene 19:17 chris ill leave that for someone else to answer 19:17 chris oh man .. a koha express question ... 19:15 cait but I think he gave up on the mailing lists 19:14 chris i think ben uses that word, because he is so familiar with it, I can't think of a comment he has made that hasn't been derogatory 19:13 cait had to look up derogatory 19:12 chris i blame google reader :) 19:11 chris hehe, so there is 19:09 cait 2 minutes betwen yours and nicoles comment :) 19:06 * cait goes reading 19:06 cait uh 19:05 chris http://www.coloradolibraries.org/2009/12/07/aspencat-is-up-and-running-libraries-unite/ 19:05 chris cait: our friend ben is back 19:05 brendan morning chris 19:04 cait hiya chris :) 19:04 brendan heya cait 19:04 chris hiya cait 19:03 cait hi #koha 19:00 wizzyrea | 19:00 wizzyrea that's interesting, I will fix the "no display" thing when I get back from lunch :) 18:59 collum Not Cool. Maybe I'll try another one. 18:59 wizzyrea :( 18:59 wizzyrea yea, that emulator doesn't show what's actually there 18:59 collum Cool. Thanks. 18:59 wizzyrea no, there's just a search box and login/logout boxes 18:56 collum I evidently don't trust emulators. 18:55 collum Should I be seeing more? 18:55 collum wizzyrea: Until my boss gets me the iphone I have to use an emulator. I'm using one at http://www.testiphone.com/ 18:48 * owen will have to take his answer off the air 18:45 owen Is there a difference, in Koha terminology, between a supplier, a vendor, and a bookseller? 18:31 wizzyrea um.. you would have to visit that link with your iphone or ipod touch :P 18:25 veryinky Ah, sorry. Only been using koha for 2 weeks no, so it'd be surprising if I knew. 18:24 owen veryinky: No, I'm just asking anyone who might know 18:22 veryinky Was that for me? 18:19 owen What information should display under the "serial data" column in the OPAC view of a serial title? 18:13 veryinky I showed my boss the koha setup I did, he checked out some marc21 records. Asked if I could make it so they're entirely in french... "000 -LEADER " "020 ## - INTERNATIONAL STANDARD BOOK NUMBER " is that actually possible? 18:13 wizzyrea flip your phone, it honors your orientation :P 18:12 wizzyrea landing page is ez 18:12 wizzyrea I think the very hard part will be formatting/using the results/detail pages 18:11 wizzyrea i'm working on this atm :P 18:11 wizzyrea wpmu.test.nekls.org/iphone 18:11 wizzyrea heh 18:11 nengard owne - i'm with you on that - kind of annoying - but we need people to volunteer to take them over :( 18:11 schuster nengard - target.com - checks browser evidently ... 18:07 sekjal like right now! 18:06 sekjal I'll make time for lunch 18:06 sekjal not lunch, the other thing. 18:06 veryinky :| 18:06 sekjal thing is, I know I could do it.... I just don't have enough time. 18:05 owen Lunch is a much more manageable project 18:04 * sekjal brings his mind back to reality, and contemplates lunch 18:04 sekjal oh dear. thinking about widgets in the staff client has spun into a complete redesign with AJAX and a whole new template/plugin system. 18:00 * owen doesn't like that some Bugzilla components are still by default assigned to people who won't fix them 17:57 nengard but clicking the links doesn't work 17:57 nengard etc 17:57 nengard it's a red page with a watchlist and a weekly schedule 17:56 nengard yup 17:56 nengard trying now 17:55 owen nengard: How about http://app.showtime-app.com 17:54 sekjal unfortunately, it's probably a lower priority on my institution's development list than other things 17:54 sekjal nengard: thinking about the data structure required right now. 17:53 nengard owen - sorry had a conference call - I don't know - what's the URL for a page that is designed for the iphone that i can visit? 17:53 nengard sekjal - love it - you gonna do it :) ? 17:46 sekjal idea: for each of the <module>-home pages in the staff interface, enable a widgetizable Dashboard. The system could be configured to display certain blocks with useful, realtime stats, work queues and important messages. 17:33 wizzyrea owen: of course (she says, typing on her 21in iMac) 17:33 wizzyrea lol 17:32 owen The other interpretation would be all wrong for an Apple store right? ;) 17:32 wizzyrea (POS = point of sale) 17:32 wizzyrea owen actually at the apple store they have barcode/card scanners backpacked to ipod touches as POS devices 17:30 owen hdl_laptop: I'm curious what circumstances would require that heading to be shown 17:28 owen hdl_laptop: When I do a search for a subscription the search results page includes the heading "Search for Serial Routing List" 17:20 owen Otherwise I don't think you can "attach" anything to an iPhone or iPod touch 17:19 owen schuster: There are iphone apps which use the built-in camera as a scanner, I think 17:18 schuster Has anyone seen a scanner that could be attached to an iphone or ipod touch? 17:10 slef the beret brigate effect 17:09 slef but you know, some designers will mess about for it because it's apple 17:09 slef iphones seem a bit of a pig to code for - lots of special CSS and meta tags 17:08 jdavidb Definitely *not* worth what I'm paying for it. It's nice getting email in my pocket and all, but I'd give that up to get back the cash. 17:08 Ropuch ;> 17:08 jdavidb I don't place five calls a month on it, though. 17:08 Ropuch '? 17:07 jdavidb No, I have a Motorola Q9c, running WinMo. It works *fine*, and makes a dandy mobile web browser. 17:07 Ropuch I haven't got an opportunity to lay my hands on it yet 17:07 Ropuch jdavidb: speaking of N900? 17:05 jdavidb If I didn't have an early cancel penalty, I'd flush mine down the commode, and not get another one. 17:05 Ropuch If only n900 wasn't so expensive... ;> 17:03 wizzyrea you know, I adore my iPhone, but the droid kind of gets my gadget lust going 17:03 owen I'm curious about whether your Blackberry gets served mobile sites designed for the iPhone 17:03 nengard LOL 17:03 * jdavidb cobbles up a Koha interface for Windows Mobile in his copious free time. 17:02 nengard wish i was a droid user instead though ... 17:02 nengard owen yes 17:02 owen nengard: You're a Blackberry user aren't you? 17:02 jdavidb lol 17:01 wizzyrea staff "Cheer!" 17:01 owen Staff: "Yay!" 17:01 owen Boss "Oh no!" 17:01 owen "sorry boss, the next Koha upgrade will require all staff to carry iPhones" 16:55 sekjal and if that device can be something staff members already have on them, all the better 16:54 sekjal it would be nice to be able to work with a handheld device in the stacks 16:54 wizzyrea some won't like it because it's not android :P 16:54 wizzyrea well 16:54 wizzyrea or using the cam 16:54 wizzyrea seems like such an elegant solution 16:53 wizzyrea sekjal: I'm kind of on about this idea of the iPhone interface/iphone app/backpack barcode scanners for iPod touches 16:53 wizzyrea sekjal: :D yes, it should be easier, and it can be, I know it can 16:52 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3908 normal, P5, ---, henridamien@koha-fr.org, NEW, Edit subscription page shows manual history block by default 16:52 owen hdl_laptop: Reported. Bug 3908 16:52 Ropuch Woo, new pootle 16:52 sekjal messing with it will be part of my Monday 16:52 sekjal after you mentioned it, it got me on a whole "make it easier to install and test Koha" kick 16:51 wizzyrea I love turnkeylinux 16:51 wizzyrea sekjal: definitely 16:50 sekjal wizzyrea: I've been looking at turnkeylinux.org and how to make a Koha appliance. If I have any success, perhaps that would help with the testing 16:49 slef yes, I think I need to set up a copy of one of our libraries and try upgrading it to 3.2 instead of using toy examples that have simple holds and so on 16:48 wizzyrea :( 16:48 wizzyrea if we were on more current code I'd volunteer to test this as we have lots of holds/items 16:48 slef wizzyrea: thanks 16:47 slef oic 16:47 wizzyrea yes the cronjob 16:47 slef wizzyrea: the cronjob or something else? 16:47 hdl_laptop owen: please do 16:47 wizzyrea (sorry, we call the holds queue the pick list, I'll try to be more accurate) 16:47 wizzyrea of the holds queue 16:47 slef per run of what? 16:47 owen hdl_laptop: No, I was about to file one. 16:47 wizzyrea even if there are multiple items available to fill multiple holds at the same time 16:46 wizzyrea slef: maybe he means that if there are multiple holds on an item, the holds pick list will only target one per run? 16:46 hdl_laptop I will have someone see that. 16:46 hdl_laptop owen: is there a bug for it ? 16:45 wizzyrea ...not sure how you'd test it :( 16:45 wizzyrea slef: there has been a lot of work in this area, I wonder if this bug is still valid 16:44 wizzyrea yea, I consulted the list. I was sad. 16:44 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2332 blocker, P3, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, holds queue script should target as many items as are available 16:44 slef can anyone explain bug 2332 to me more clearly? 16:44 hdl_laptop nahuel went 16:41 wizzyrea bah 16:40 owen hdl_laptop: ...and in subscription_add.pl: history => ($op eq 'mod'), 16:40 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3897 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, nahuel.angelinetti@biblibre.com, ASSIGNED, Holds policies and CircControl 16:40 wizzyrea bug 3897 16:40 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3987 was not found. 16:40 wizzyrea bug 3987 what were the symptoms of this? 16:40 owen The template checks for "history": <!--TMPL_IF Name="history"--> $("#subscription_form_history").show() 16:39 wizzyrea nahuel: about? 16:39 owen hdl_laptop: I notice when you edit a subscription the "manual history" block is visible, even if you did not create the subscription with "manual history" checked 16:38 hdl_laptop yes 16:37 owen hdl_laptop: Are you the person to ask about subscription-add.pl? 16:37 slef owen: sure, everyone makes mistakes. I just had some time to browse the bugs (first time in ages) 16:36 slef pasting link into bug 16:36 owen slef: Sounds like we all need a reminder. I'm sure I'm guilty of it too..Probably today :) 16:36 slef http://lists.koha.org/pipermail/koha-patches/2009-December/004975.html 16:35 slef I can't think of a situation where PATCH-Sent NEW bugs should exist 16:35 hdl_laptop Fixing suggestions management page, Authorised values werent being passed through 16:35 slef hdl_laptop: I think so too, but we've two bugs which are unassigned but patched, which seems wrong. 16:34 hdl_laptop slef: I thought the assignee was meant to be the one who actually copes with the bug. 16:34 slef hdl_laptop: I searched http://lists.koha.org/pipermail/koha-patches/2009-December/ for the bug number without finding it. 16:33 hdl_laptop slef: sent on list. 16:33 slef hdl_laptop: yes, so should it be assigned to him or you? Also, where is the patch? 16:33 hdl_laptop slef: he sent a patch for that. 16:29 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3848 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, henridamien@koha-fr.org, NEW, Suggestions - Reasons not showing 16:29 slef should bug 3848 be reassigned to chris? 16:24 nengard I think 16:24 nengard that's wrong ... 16:24 owen When I edit my subscription that block is open, but the manual history checkbox is unchecked. In this case checking the box hides the block 16:24 nengard I've never clicked manual history 16:23 nengard hey look at that :) 16:23 owen nengard: The block that appears when you check the "manual history" checkbox. 16:23 nengard everything I see open is supposed to be open 16:23 nengard Hmm - what do you call the manual history box? 16:22 * indradg is looking towards BibLibre stuff 16:22 * indradg is looking for an easy answer about Koha and CAS, is there any examples out there? 16:21 nengard owen - hang on - let me try to edit and see what you mean 16:21 owen nengard: I notice that when I edit a subscription the "manual history" block is open. Is that to be expected, or a bug? 16:21 schuster Open for suggestions... My debian box isn't running a windows client so I'm doing it from command line - I've read a few other pages, but they all talk about the GUI Debian. 16:20 schuster The other server seems to be rejecting my request? 16:20 schuster I know this is beyond Koha - but I'm trying to fileshare with a windows server I have looked at this page http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-to-mount-remote-windows-partition-windows-share-under-linux.html but 16:02 nengard sorry owen - didn't see the other question - yes, that's the bug 15:51 veryinky The following fatal error has occurred: Can't call method "as_formatted" on an undefined value 15:51 veryinky hrm 15:50 owen Undefined subroutine &main::HasItems 15:48 owen Hmmm... Can't delete a subscription. 15:47 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3285 critical, P5, ---, paul.poulain@biblibre.com, NEW, Location on Add Subscription should be pull down 15:47 owen Oh I see, Bug 3285? 15:45 nengard there is a chat transcript on that bug that says that 15:45 nengard that's what I think we figured 15:45 owen nengard: On the subscription add form, is the "Location" field mean to be "Shelving location?" 15:44 veryinky When viewing a marc record. 15:44 veryinky Empty String at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/catalogue/showmarc.pl line 74 15:43 owen :| 15:43 veryinky Damn it. Koha crashed. 15:41 wizzyrea_ heh 15:38 veryinky At least you got your _ back. 15:36 jdavidb :P 15:36 wizzyrea_ :P 15:36 wizzyrea_ lots of connecting/disconnecting 15:36 wizzyrea_ lol sorry I've been working on our new WAP 15:35 * jdavidb velcroes wizzerea_ in place. 15:26 veryinky (can edit vendors, but I want to delete one entirely) 15:25 veryinky Is there an easy way to delete a vendor? I've found a lot of ways to delete patrons or users, but can't seem to find where vendors can be deleted or removed. 15:25 owen wizzyrea__'s reception is getting better: she's up to 2 bars. 15:21 veryinky :| 15:18 jdavidb g'mornin', wizzyrea_. :) 15:03 imp CGI639: ok, i don't know what happens there (have no experience with zebra so far), maybe someone else can help you 14:54 CGI639 imp: i issue commands but it show no progress but hanged 14:35 owen Hi eiro 14:35 eiro hello all 14:33 imp CGI639: ... ${koha} is still not set.... just replace it with koha (you said some time before, your kohauser ist just koha) 14:33 CGI639 actually this command is written in the part of 'configure and start zebra -> Zebraqueue Daemon' in documentation 14:31 CGI639 imp: same thing occur.. http://pastebin.org/63524 14:25 imp and issue the command there again 14:25 imp so, if it's the installation part, go into your koha-3.00.04_fixed folder 14:23 CGI639 yeah installaion part. I m insallation koha-3.00.04_fixed on debian-lenny 14:22 imp the command you try to use is still from the installation part, or? 14:21 CGI639 and 'ls|grep koha' return nothing 14:21 CGI639 'ls misc' return 'koha-install-log translator' 14:20 CGI639 Im now in usr/share/koha 14:19 CGI639 imp: wht shoud I do? 14:13 CGI639 I have intalled koha in default location and did not change it 14:12 CGI639 yeah pwd return /usr/share 14:12 imp CGI639: and "pwd" returns /usr/share/ ? don't think you got the right folder.... but i dont know what you've done so far 14:10 nengard owen - yeah .. hmmm okay - by 2011 :) hehe 14:10 hdl_laptop nengard++ and jransom++ too 14:08 CGI639 and 'ls misc' return 'magic magic.mgc magic.mime pci.ids usb.ids' 14:07 CGI639 return: 'koha' 14:07 CGI639 'imp: ls | grep koha' 14:05 owen That goal conflicts with a trip to KohaCon 2010 (unless I consider that my Perl class!) 14:05 nengard owen wish i could fix more of these bugs that i'm reporting - goal for 2010 - both of us (you and me) save up enough for Perl classes ;) 14:01 imp use "cd /path/to/your/kohainstall" and then try it again... 14:00 imp no big surprise that you cannot run the commands 14:00 CGI639 ls: cannot access misc: no such file or directory 13:58 imp and "ls misc" ? 13:58 CGI639 imp: nothing 13:57 imp CGI639: what does "ls | grep koha" print? 13:56 CGI639 and I extract there koha installation files 13:56 CGI639 my home directory is /home/nouman 13:56 munin nicomo: The current temperature in Feyzin, Feyzin, France is 8.6�C (2:00 PM CET on December 11, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Windchill: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1022.9 hPa (Steady). 13:56 nicomo @wunder lyon france 13:56 owen jransom++ # for bug reports! 13:55 owen nengard++ # for bug reports! 13:55 CGI639 'koha' is the username of my koha 13:55 CGI639 imp: i also replaced 'the usernamehere' with koha but same thing appear 13:45 nengard you can always tell what part of the manual I'm working on by reading the bug reports I'm putting in :) today it's serials 13:43 imp and your prompt says, you are inside your home directory - did you extract the koha installationfiles right there, not inside a subfolder? 13:41 imp CGI639: you have to replace "theusernamehere" with the username you gave koha.... 13:39 CGI639 imp: http://pastebin.org/63511 13:38 imp heyho owen 13:37 owen Hi #koha 13:35 CGI639 I tried but not working these commands 13:33 imp or put infront of the command: koha=theusernamehere sudo -u ... 13:32 imp guess you need to replace ${koha} with the actual koha username 13:32 CGI639 how can I set it? 13:32 imp the variable $koha is not set, so your shell uses the path as username (which is bad) 13:30 CGI639 http://pastebin.org/63507 13:30 imp CGI639: maybe. describe your problem 13:27 CGI639 imp: could u with me as I can complete the koha 13:25 imp (that's the reason why you cannot start another one) 13:24 imp CGI639: you've got already a zebraserv running 13:10 CGI639 hdl_laptop: I have tried this happen. Im unable to understand it. http://pastebin.org/63500 13:03 CGI639 imp:ok 12:46 imp CGI639: see the one hdl_laptop posted, and please do not use coloured text for messages here 12:45 hdl_laptop ps ax |grep zebra 12:45 CGI639 04imp>>01how can I check plz tell me commands 12:44 CGI639 I have run and completed web installer also 12:44 CGI639 hdl_laptop: so wht should I do? 12:43 hdl_laptop CGI639: or you have permission problems on this directory 12:43 hdl_laptop CGI639: either zebra is already launched, or you have socket files already polluting your var/run/zebradb/ directory 12:41 imp CGI639: check if it's already running, if not -> try to delete the files (the ones it's complaining about) and try again 12:37 CGI639 ?? 12:37 CGI639 is there any one to help me 12:19 CGI639 It show fatal http://pastebin.org/63465 12:19 CGI639 when I want to run sudo -u koha zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml 12:07 CGI285 above command is not working it show fatal http://pastebin.org/63456 12:06 CGI285 'sudo -u koha zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml' 12:06 CGI285 I have prob 12:06 CGI285 I have problem in zebra configuration 12:02 Amit hi imp 12:02 imp thanks Amit :) 12:02 imp think there are still some hours of work left ;) 12:01 Amit happy weekend to all 11:22 CGI285 any one there to help me?? 10:08 CGI285 how can I fix this error of zebra 10:08 CGI285 Genji: 10:08 CGI285 Genji: ok, 10:05 Genji Ajax based web client 10:04 Genji CGI285: one way to possiblly fix your irc disconnecting problem. http://www.mibbit.com 10:03 CGI285 how can I fix it? I have completed web installer 10:02 CGI285 it show fatal http://pastebin.org/63465 10:02 CGI285 when I want to configure zebra by 'sudo -u koha zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml' 09:52 |Lupin| bbl 09:47 |Lupin| guten tag kf :) 09:44 kf Guten morgen Lupin 09:43 |Lupin| hi 08:57 kf Guten Morgen Ropuch 08:56 Ropuch Guten Morgen kf, hi Genji 08:56 Ropuch > 08:55 Genji Good to see katipo back in koha action... and in #koha. 08:54 kf good morning :) 08:54 Genji rach++ 08:54 Genji omg, hi rach! 07:28 Ropuch Morning #koha 06:57 Genji Wow, the private library im working for, is installing koha on a dedicated quad core. its going to rock. 06:49 pianohacker night 04:35 brendan it looks like you'll need an update to get that to work again 04:29 Amit no 04:29 brendan Amit - in your system preferences do you see a spot for AWSPrivateKey 04:28 Amit brendan: so i should apply this patch on 3.02 04:24 brendan back 04:21 pianohacker be back in a second 04:19 Amit brendan 04:19 Amit bbias means 04:19 brendan bbias 04:18 brendan :) 04:18 brendan or if you have a more graceful way of saying it 04:18 brendan pianohacker fill in if I'm wrong 04:18 brendan is the important part 04:18 brendan yup -- After 2009-08-15 04:17 Amit i m also seeing http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=Koha;a=commit;h=54f7ca4d3b528324b127df4bebf3e05a08830235 04:17 Amit ok 04:17 brendan you need to get a - AWSPrivateKey 04:17 brendan you need to get a See: http://aws.amazon.com. Note that this is required after 2009/08/15 in order to retrieve any enhanced content other than book covers from Amazon. 04:16 Amit k 04:16 brendan sorry Amit - just read your post right now 04:16 Amit so amazon cover is not appear on normal view 04:15 Amit no i m using 3.0.2 one of our customer 04:15 brendan Amit are you on HEAD 04:15 brendan yeah that's a bug in the current HEAD 04:15 Amit brendan: i m getting this error http://old.nabble.com/Amazon-jackets-not-working-in-3.00.02-td24169316.html 04:14 Amit heya brendan 04:14 brendan got it right that time :) 04:14 pianohacker Hi brendan 04:14 brendan hi pianohacker 04:14 brendan hi Amit 04:01 Amit hi pianohacker 03:59 pianohacker hi, Amit 03:35 Amit good morning @koha 03:35 Amit heya chris, chris_n2 02:33 pennmanor test 02:11 chris as soon as a 3.2.x branch is made, then it can go into master 02:11 chris and i 02:11 chris galen 02:01 brendan obviously (I'll make a note of it so it gets put somewhere) 02:00 brendan silly question - who keeps track of that? 02:00 brendan so mdhafen's patch is consider a new enhancement - so it doesn't get into 3.2? 01:27 Genji Ah 01:27 chris since joshua was last on here 01:27 Genji Hmm? 01:26 chris 276 days 01:24 Genji Wish we could edit liblimes wiki.. but we don't have any independant, non-original research. 01:23 Genji liblime-- # No communication. 01:01 imp k 01:00 chris probably not, but even they did, they havent been on here for months anyway 00:59 imp do they use the host for their own irc stuff too? 00:57 chris LL don't care 00:57 chris i doubt it 00:57 imp yeah, but maybe it can speedup the removal of the script 00:57 chris having one that you cant use, seems pointless 00:56 chris id rather just remove the script 00:56 chris we could but they'd still be on the server then 00:55 imp (but it might be mistaken if somebody can not join) 00:55 chris_n2 any thoughts? 00:55 chris_n2 and it may be a file permission problem 00:55 imp chris: can't we just ban the cgi script? (at least the default names, CGI*, guess the ones who setup a name there, behave much better :) 00:55 chris_n2 it appears that foo.pl is not being reached 00:54 chris_n2 there are no helpful lines in any of the logs 00:54 chris_n2 the 500 error is *not* the koha 500 error page 00:54 chris_n2 once at the home page, clicking on any link results in a 500 error 00:53 chris_n2 I can log into the staff interface fine 00:53 chris_n2 I've some weirdness with koha on win32 as a dev install which did not occur when installed in a single directory 00:17 chris very cool 00:12 chris_n2 it allows sync of patrons with another db 00:12 chris oh yeah, that is sweet 00:11 chris hmmm lemme look 00:11 chris_n2 patron sync tool 00:11 chris oh, i mighta missed that one, what was it? 00:10 chris_n2 wow... nice feature by michael hafen 00:09 chris_n2 yeah, I think she sort of missed the point of my response 00:08 chris i couldnt really think of any other way to say it 00:08 chris_n2 chris: nice response to andrea's post 00:06 chris theres been tons of it lately 00:06 * chris_n2 catches up on the mail 00:05 chris_n2 tired, but fine otherwise 00:05 chris heya chris_n2 00:03 chris_n2 g'evening 00:02 chris back