Time Nick Message 02:38 pianohacker good night 03:28 Amit hi brendan, chris, chris_n2 03:29 Amit good morning #koha 04:53 hdl Genji: yes. 04:53 hdl i am 05:06 brendan hello Amit 05:07 Amit heya hdl 05:09 hdl hi Amit 05:09 hdl hi brendan 05:40 Genji hiya hdl, still there? 05:41 hdl Genji: yes 05:44 Genji okay, ive put a new marc field into framework, then edited the three zebra files, record.abs, both marc defs, and ccl.properties to map jn to Journal-number and 1=9903 etc, i tried adding the jn query to the url, like &op=not&idx=jn&q=55 .... doesn't come up with anything. 05:46 Genji oh, and i have reindexed 05:46 Genji Search.pm is sending (rk=( kw,wrdl="school")) not (rk=( jn,ext,r1="50" or jn,phr,r3="50" or jn,rt,wrdl,r3="50")) to Zoom. 05:47 Genji what should Search.pm be sending to Zoom? 06:06 hdl mmm... 06:07 hdl Have you tried via yaz-client to see how yaz parses the query ? 06:08 hdl yaz-client unix:.... 06:08 hdl set_cclfile path to ccl.properties 06:09 hdl cclparse jn="30" 06:10 hdl it should send you @attr 1=9903 "30" 06:10 hdl If not, then you have trouble with your ccl.properties, but I cannot see where from what you tell. 06:11 hdl (only from what you tell) 06:11 hdl the day begins 06:11 hdl for me 06:11 hdl see you 06:15 Genji huh.. unknown qualifier. good catch. 06:54 Ropuch Morning, #koha 06:56 Genji okay, how do i change the ccl properties file used? i found my problem. default.bib is being used instead of ccl.properties. 07:15 Genji haha! I did a search for ccl.properties .... found the realtime chat log.... and it showed me text that i completely missed on reading it here. 07:17 Genji Okay, so the ccl.properties link works. 07:46 |Lupin| hi there 07:50 Ropuch Hi |Lupin| 07:58 |Lupin| hey Ropuch 07:58 |Lupin| salut laurence 08:06 |Lupin| hello paul_p 08:06 paul_p hello |Lupin| & al 08:09 |Lupin| paul_p: it's my last day as an employee :) 08:09 paul_p |Lupin|: yes I remember 08:10 |Lupin| paul_p: :) 08:10 |Lupin| paul_p: btw we went live, in case you are interested. http://www.serveur-helene.org 08:11 |Lupin| the only little annoyance si that our logo didn't fit in the space where the Koha logo was so they had to redo one.. I have no idea if it's possible to adjust the space reserved tfor the logo... 08:11 Kivutar hi all 08:12 |Lupin| hello Kivutar ! :) 08:12 paul_p |Lupin|: congrats. I think that on owen'ts apcl blog, there is an entry about that 08:14 |Lupin| paul_p: oh cool ! 08:14 |Lupin| paul_p: perhaps you have the URL of that blog somewhere and could paste it here ? 08:16 paul_p |Lupin|: http://www.myacpl.org/koha 08:17 |Lupin| paul_p: tanks !! 08:32 Amit heya lupin, ropuch 09:20 kf hi #koha 09:22 hdl hi kf 09:23 imp heyho 09:24 kf hi hdl & imp :) 11:02 |Lupin| hi again folks :) 11:02 |Lupin| hdl: around ? 11:03 hdl yes 11:03 |Lupin| hdl: I'm wondering: is it possible to search on itemtypes in CCL ? 11:03 |Lupin| hdl: is there an index for that ? 11:03 hdl itype or ccode depending on your configuration. 11:04 |Lupin| hdl: if the item-type is not at item level but at bib level... ? 11:04 hdl itemtype if you are at itemlevel 11:05 hdl sorry biblio level 11:06 |Lupin| hdl: we have two item types (defined at biblio level): PUB and PRIV 11:06 |Lupin| hdl: I just tried itype=PRIV 11:07 |Lupin| hdl: idtdoesn't work. am I doing something wrong or perhaps is there ia zebra misconfiguraion ? 11:07 hdl itemtype="PRIV" 11:08 |Lupin| hdl: ah you have to quote it ?? why ? 11:14 |Lupin| hdl: does not work... gives no error but no result 11:16 hdl itemtype=PRIV works ? 11:18 |Lupin| hdl: itype=PUB and itype=PR 11:18 |Lupin| IV do work actually... 11:18 |Lupin| hdl: but my zebra index was misconfigured so I had to bind the index to the right marc field and rebuild it. 11:20 |Lupin| oops 11:20 |Lupin| itype=PUB and itype=PRIV work 12:08 anotheruser I'm having some trouble installing Koha on Debian Lenny, anybody here able to help? Getting the following error when running make test (everything else reported no errors as far as I know): http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/331636/ 12:09 anotheruser I've been trying different hacks for 3-4 hours and still at a loss here 12:12 anotheruser looks like nobody is here, was hoping some nz folks would be on at this hour 12:12 anotheruser damn 12:17 anotheruser hey thomas/nengard 12:20 Ropuch Hi nengard, anotheruser 12:21 Ropuch anotheruser: why don't you install 3.0.4? 12:28 hdl gmcharlt_: ? 12:42 |Lupin| till soon everybody 12:56 anotheruser ropuch: I downloaded the latest stable from koha.org, figured I wouldn't push my luck on a devel version 12:58 Ropuch anotheruser: from your paste: /home/rtorrent/koha-3.00.01-stable 12:59 Ropuch anotheruser: koha-3.00.04_fixed.tar.gz is mardked as latest stable release on koha.org 13:02 anotheruser ropuch: checking to see what's going on with version numbers 13:03 anotheruser ropuch: on koha.org/download I see the latest stable version as 3.0.2? 13:03 anotheruser Latest Stable Release : Koha Version 3.0.2 - June 04, 2009 13:03 Ropuch Man, this is confusing 13:04 Ropuch Latest stable is 3.00.02.fixed 13:04 Ropuch grrr 13:04 anotheruser where did you see that 3.00.04 is latest stable? 13:04 Ropuch I mean koha-3.00.04_fixed 13:05 Ropuch on koha.org main page 13:05 anotheruser whoa, that is confusing 13:05 anotheruser I guess I'll try installing with that version 13:07 anotheruser this might take a while, that last file took forever to download 13:07 Ropuch Oh? 13:07 anotheruser err, the other koha version 13:07 anotheruser 3.02 13:07 Ropuch I can put the tar.gz on my site 13:07 anotheruser it's slow on my end unfortunately 13:12 anotheruser thanks for your help btw 13:12 anotheruser I'm on a <12 hr deadline her 13:12 anotheruser *here 13:17 chris_n anotheruser: it also looks like root does not have the correct permissions for the koha db on your install 13:18 chris_n failed t/Dates.t tests can safely be ignored atm 13:19 chris_n anotheruser: if you are installing on ubuntu, see the INSTALL.ubuntu file 13:22 anotheruser chris_n: I realized the sql errors as well which I believe I've fixed but I'll find out on this next install 13:23 anotheruser I wish I was installing this on Ubuntu but the server is debian, a system I don't have tons of experience in 13:24 chris_n debian and ubuntu are not too far removed from each other... there are also a couple of INSTALL.debian files 13:24 chris_n g'morning brendan 13:24 anotheruser that's what I've been using 13:24 Ropuch Hi chris_n, brendan 13:24 anotheruser debian_lenny 13:24 chris_n hi Ropuch 13:25 chris_n anotheruser: INSTALL.debian-lenny 13:25 chris_n bbl 13:25 anotheruser chris_n: that's the one I've been following 13:26 chris_n you should be ok after fixing the db user issue then... just ignore the failed date tests 13:27 anotheruser that 13:27 anotheruser that's my hope, we'll see how it goes 13:28 anotheruser I'm very excited to try koha out, it's something I've always wanted to work with. I re-organized the entire magazine collection at a school I was at and kept saying how they could index it and connect to other libraries and have an online search and they just sent me back to the magazines but now I've got a chance to prove how cool of an idea it is. 13:29 nengard working on documenting patron permission - and I have a question - this permission: "staffaccess Modify login / permissions for staff users" seems strange to me - if staff members are patrons wouldn't I be able to edit the staff members' patron records if I have 'borrowers' rights? 13:30 brendan morning Ropuch and all 13:30 brendan howdy chris_n 13:31 chris_n brendan: have a good Thanksgiving? 13:31 chris_n hi nengard 13:31 chris_n and Nate 13:31 brendan I had a great thanksgiving 13:31 brendan did some camping and smoked a turkey on a campfire :) 13:31 Nate hi chris_n 13:31 brendan how about you ? 13:33 chris_n brendan: had a great one 13:33 jwagner Good morning, all 13:33 brendan excellent 13:33 brendan heya jwagner 13:33 chris_n hard to tell if it was the turkey or me that was more stuffed 13:33 schuster heya - jwagner - it was enough to get our own decorations up with a 5 and 9 year old running around wanting to help! 13:34 chris_n schuster: I have a 3 year old to contend with ;-) 13:36 hdl hi nengard and jwagner and brendan 13:37 brendan greetings hdl 13:37 hdl hi chris_n schuster and all 13:37 jwagner But schuster, I'm sure you could have a nice sideline decorating for others :-) 13:37 chris_n howdy hdl 13:38 hdl good. 13:38 chris_n hard to believe that tomorrow will be December already 13:39 nengard I KNOW!!! 13:40 chris_n ok, gotta run for a bit... bbl 13:41 anotheruser starting install process... 13:41 anotheruser see ya chris_n 13:50 anotheruser wb hdl 13:54 owen Hi all 13:54 anotheruser install didn't work with new version 13:54 brendan morning owen 13:54 anotheruser output at http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/331704/. What next? 13:54 anotheruser hey owen 13:57 hdl_laptop label error can be ignored unless you want to print labels 13:57 anotheruser hmm.. 13:58 anotheruser would that be for like catalouging non-barcoded media? 13:58 hdl_laptop it is to print labels with barcodes. 13:59 hdl_laptop but you would have better buy some. 13:59 anotheruser well I guess that's not totally essential 14:00 anotheruser would there be a way to like have it print to pdf and then I can print it manually or something? 14:00 anotheruser and/or any ideas for making make test work? 14:00 Ropuch I'm working on 3.0.4 and I'm using barcodes 14:01 Ropuch anotheruser: just leave it as it is and make install 14:01 Ropuch bbl 14:01 anotheruser ok, will do 14:09 anotheruser it worked! 14:09 anotheruser thanks so much for your help! You saved me when I had less than two hours left to get it working 14:21 nengard holy cow - just saw that the next meeting is at 5am my time. I probably won't make it since I have a couple of long drives and lots of presenting to do that day 14:22 nengard on another note - i'm looking to fix a permissions bug - I'm wondering if anyone knows what files I need to look into ... I'm searching through things now - but if someone here knows off the top of their head I'd love the pointers :) 14:26 owen Hi nengard. What's the bug? 14:26 nengard http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3817 14:26 munin 04Bug 3817: critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Missing Patron Permission for Tags Tool 14:27 owen nengard I don't know much about permissions but I know Auth.pm plays a central role. 14:28 nengard thanks! that's important 14:28 hdl_laptop nengard: you also have to add sql files. 14:29 nengard hdl_laptop - that one I knew :) 14:29 hdl_laptop nengard: there are a couple of permissions enhancements patches you can look at in git.biblibre.com 14:30 nengard ooo -thanks 14:35 anotheruser ok, noob question, what's my login/password combination? 14:36 anotheruser for the koha admin login 14:37 imp kohaadmin / katikoan 14:37 anotheruser thanks 14:44 anotheruser alrightey I'm out 14:44 anotheruser thank you everybody for all of your help! 14:51 jwagner owen, online? 14:51 owen Hi jwagner 14:51 jwagner Good morning. 14:52 jwagner Got a stylesheet question for you -- I'm trying to make one change (background color on the masthead). I think that's in the opac-main-search part of the opac.css file, right? 14:52 jwagner I've tried creating a opac-local.css file with just that section and the color change. How do I make it take effect? 14:53 owen opac-main-search is the container that holds the search bar. Is that what you're thinking of? 14:53 jwagner I've tried embedding the path/filename in opacstylesheet, which seemed to break everything. 14:53 jwagner Yes, I think opac-main-search is what I'm looking for -- to change the background blue of the masthead. 14:54 owen opac-main-search has both a background color and a background-image. If you want to change the color you can either hide the background image and change the color or change the background image 14:55 owen So, to hide the background image and change the color, all in one line: #opac-main-search { background: #336699 none; } 14:56 owen The "background" term covers both background-color and background-image. the "none" cancels the default background image. 14:56 ricardo Hi everyone! :) 14:57 jwagner owen, that changes the color OK, but hoses the rest of the masthead -- basic HTML text aligning left, no buttons, etc. 14:57 ricardo_ Hi (again) 14:57 Ropuch jwagner: try web developer firefox addon 14:57 nengard French translation needed -- "Moderate patron tags" 14:58 ricardo_ Can anyone here share some (working) .git/config file that follows the "3.0.x" branch? I'm getting some weird git error messages 14:58 jwagner I am supposed to be putting the stylesheet path in opacstylesheet, right? 14:58 Ropuch Its "Show element information" is very helpfull in determining what visible part of screen actually is ;> 14:58 owen jwagner: I recommend working with OPACUserCSS while you're working out the changes 14:58 owen jwagner: Will the custom stylesheet live on the Koha server alongside the default stylesheet? 14:59 owen If so, use the opaccolorstylesheet preference and put in *just* the filename of the custom stylesheet 14:59 jwagner Yep, just tried that -- took out the path/filename from opacstylesheet & just put the oneliner in OPACUserCSS -- works fine! Thanks much. 14:59 nengard hdl_laptop -- French translation needed -- "Moderate patron tags" 14:59 Ropuch nengard: Mod�rer les tags des lecteurs 14:59 nengard thanks 14:59 nengard :) 14:59 jwagner Right now this may be the only stylesheet change. If more are needed, then I'll keep the local file on the server. 15:00 jwagner But no path, right, just the name? 15:00 owen If you're using opaccolorstylesheet, yes. 15:01 ricardo Never mind, I think I found the "bug" (was using "http://repo.or.cz/w/koha.git" for the "url" and should be using "http://repo.or.cz/r/koha.git" instead - "r" instead of "w") 15:01 owen The opacstylesheet system preference lets you supply a full URL to a *complete* replacement to the default stylesheet. 15:02 owen That means that with opacstylesheet populated the default stylesheet doesn't get loaded at all 15:02 jwagner Gotcha. I thought it was for an "additional" stylesheet. 15:15 nengard woo hoo - I love submitting patches :) hehe - makes me feel powerful :) 15:15 |Lupin| hi nengard 15:15 nengard hiya 15:15 |Lupin| nengard: yeah it's nice to submit patches 15:15 * |Lupin| likes the feeling too 15:15 nengard now - back to manual writing for me ... 15:16 nengard not as much fun - but I do love pushing updates for that too :) 15:18 Ropuch I will make myself familiar with git some day ;> 15:25 nengard Ropuch the best way to learn is to jump in - and to read the tutorials on the wiki :) 15:26 nengard also - everyone here is very helpful if you're not sure how to do something 15:27 Ropuch Yea, I know - i just don't have time 15:27 Ropuch I've just finished translatinng marc framework 15:29 |Lupin| k, goodbye drink at the office, till later 15:42 nengard hey does anyone know why when i view the modificition log for a patron I see question marks in the value fields for everything? http://koha.pastebin.com/m4394dcf6 15:43 nengard is it a bug or a feature :) hehe 15:44 nengard the same happens on the log viewer too ... with patrons 15:44 owen nengard: It sounds like it's outputting the SQL for the update before any variables were passed to it 15:44 owen I've seen that too. 15:44 nengard hence - a bug? 15:45 owen I think it's a shortcoming of the log viewer, yes 15:45 owen nengard: Did you ever get into prepared statements in PHP? 15:45 nengard doesn't sound familiar 15:48 owen It's a more secure way of passing data to an SQL statement. You set up the SQL with placeholders (the ?'s) and then you "bind" the data to the placeholders while specifying their data type 15:48 owen It helps protect against SQL injection 16:18 owen "LibLime Enterprise Koha represents the most advanced and comprehensive open-source ILS solution available to libraries." 16:18 owen ? 16:19 * owen quotes "I don't think that words means what you think it means." 16:19 chris *sigh* 16:20 chris liars-- 16:20 owen But more importantly chris, did you cook your wife a turkey this weekend? 16:21 * imp remembers "world famous in new zealand" :D 16:21 chris nope, i dont think she has ever cooked a turkey in her life :) 16:21 chris imp: hehe did you see my tweets? 16:21 imp nope 16:23 chris i was in paeroa yesterday, the home of L&P, who's slogan that is 16:23 imp hehe 16:25 kf hi chris :) 16:28 chris hi kf :) 16:28 chris owen: did you see http://jenemoore.wordpress.com/2009/11/28/rr-kohablog/ ? 16:30 owen Yeah, I did! It might even shame me into doing an (overdue) update ;) 16:31 owen If anyone has any requests, pass them on! 16:38 chris :) 16:43 Ropuch ;> 16:43 brendan morning chris 16:43 chris hiya brendan 16:51 nengard can anyone email me a screenshot of a patron's messaging tab from the staff client - I'm looking for a screenshot with sent messages and queued messages if possible 16:55 chris i wonder if the twitter bot can tag LEK stuff as #notrealkoha :) 16:55 chris nengard: i can when i get to work 16:56 nengard cook 16:56 nengard or cool :) 16:56 nengard and thanks 16:57 nengard and what tweets mention lek? 16:57 owen http://twitter.com/kohails/status/6205397173 16:57 owen From a news item posted to koha.org 16:58 wizzyrea nengard let me know if that SS won't work for you 16:58 kf nengard: my notice templates have German descriptions - if this does not hurt I can sent you a screenshot 16:58 nengard wizzyrea it's perfect 16:58 nengard kf thanks - wizzyrea's works 16:59 wizzyrea actually, hm , it doesn't show any queued messages 17:00 nengard it doesn't 17:00 nengard but it's better than what I had - which was nothing :) 17:07 kf first snow here today *sigh* 17:07 kf @wunder Konstanz 17:07 munin kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 0.0�C (6:00 PM CET on November 30, 2009). Conditions: Snow. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Pressure: 29.57 in 1001 hPa (Rising). 17:08 * imp wants some snow too, rain sucks 17:08 imp ;) 17:10 kf started with rain... have to walk home :( 17:10 kf bye #koha 17:10 imp cya 17:13 nengard chris, i fixed the yahoo pipe - LEK news will not go out on the official kohails twitter feed anymore 17:14 chris cool, we can put them back in, when they release some code 17:15 owen nengard++ 17:17 magnusenger nengard++ 17:18 nengard :) 17:18 nengard glad to be of service 17:23 chris on the good news front, more libraries joining nexpress :-) 17:23 chris who afaik still use real koha 17:24 wizzyrea for now :) 17:24 wizzyrea (and hopefully forever) 17:26 chris nekls++ 17:27 tomascohen @wunder cordoba, argentina 17:27 munin tomascohen: The current temperature in Cordoba Aerodrome, Argentina is 24.0�C (12:00 PM ART on November 30, 2009). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 15%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Falling). 17:48 * nengard lunching 18:07 jdavidb @wunder 20852 18:07 munin jdavidb: The current temperature in Flower Valley, Rockville, Maryland is 10.6�C (1:03 PM EST on November 30, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.39 in 995.1 hPa (Steady). 18:07 ricardo Hi again... Just installed koha30x from git... I'm having a strange problem. If accessing OPAC, and go to http://myhost (OPAC) for the 1st time, I get redirected to http://myhost/cgi-bin/koha/maintenance.pl (that's normal). The problem is that I get a blank page ! (really blank... View Source comes empty) 18:08 ricardo The error log reveals the problem: 18:08 ricardo [Mon Nov 30 18:02:41 2009] [error] [client 10.1.2.3] built-in find_file: can't find file /koha/koha30xclone/koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl//en/modules/maintenance.tmpl 18:09 ricardo (there's a missing "prog" between "opac-tmpl" and "en") 18:09 chris yep, never seen that happen before 18:09 chris did you run the webinstaller yet? 18:09 ricardo chris: Not yet... But I usually do things in this order (and I expect some other users might do this, as well) 18:10 chris yeah, i did an install recently and didnt have that happen 18:10 ricardo (FWIW, the "prog" directory is in the right place: 18:10 chris so im trying to figure out what is different 18:10 ricardo /koha/koha30xclone/koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/en 18:11 chris it will use whatever theme you have set 18:11 chris using opacthemes 18:12 ricardo chris: OK. I'll try to access the Web Installer, just to see if that appears 18:12 chris i wonder if somehow its getting a blank value for that 18:12 ricardo (Well, the "Web Installer" page appears) 18:14 chris time to get up, bbiab 18:14 ricardo OK. I'm probably almost leaving work now. Thanks for the feedback chris! 18:21 jwagner Can anyone help with how XSLT defines available? I'm looking at XSLT.pm and not having much luck. I have a test data load with lots of items, but very few with barcodes. It's a multilibrary system, and there are some titles with copies (and barcodes) from both libraries. However, the OPAC results list consistently says No copies available. The details page is fine. 18:21 jwagner I had thought the lack of barcodes might be the problem, but it's happening for items created in Koha with barcodes. 18:21 ricardo jwagner: Sorry, can't help you there :( 18:21 ricardo Gotta go. Take care everyone! 18:21 jwagner If I turn off XSLT results, the hitlist shows at least one library's holdings, but not both. 18:24 fredericd jwagner: result page takes items info from marcxml biblio record; detail page from items table records. You may have some inconsistency somewhere between both 18:25 jwagner fredericd, any idea where to look? I've never seen this happen for records created in Koha (z39.50 import) and items created in Koha. 18:27 fredericd jwagner: for a given record (biblionumber) take a look at its biblioitems.marcxml field and compare with corresponding items records... 18:27 fredericd If it's coherent, you know XSL is responsible... 18:28 jwagner OK, I'll try that. Thanks. 18:32 Genji morning all. 18:34 Genji ... Chris is up at this time of the morning? Crazy. He lives his life in another timezone? 18:36 chris its called having a 3 year old and a 6 month old 18:36 chris :) 18:36 Genji Ahh! So, youve got the Da Vinci sleeping pattern down pat then eh? 18:36 chris i live on planet "kids wake up at weird times" 18:38 jdavidb Duct tape and a rubber mallet will resolve that issue, chris. 18:38 chris heh 18:39 jdavidb <dumbledore voice> The door marked "daddy's room" is out of bounds before 9 AM, for those who do not wish to die a horrible death. </dumbledore> 18:40 jwagner fredericd, so far as I can tell the biblioitems.marcxml and the items table entries are the same. 18:41 chris and now to make some toast with peanut butter 18:41 chris which is kahu's favourite breakfast 18:41 * chris_n notes a change in rhetoric from LL 18:41 chris_n "LibLime and the LibLime logo, Koha and LibLime Enterprise Koha are either registered trademarks or trademarks of LibLime." 18:42 chris_n no longer "LibLime and others" 18:42 chris_n the "Koha" part that is 18:45 Genji So, what is the status of LibLime and Koha, the wider community of open source, aka Katipo Koha? 18:46 owen Genji: We eagerly await the public release of LibLime's version. 18:47 chris here's my take on it, Liblime have forked and are not committing code back to the community, according to the press they have 2 years of development 18:47 chris which they have not yet released 18:47 jdavidb for some value of "year." 18:48 chris the community cannot coerce them to, but really wish they would start behaving as members of the wider project 18:49 chris but the releasing code or not is not the real issue for me, the real issue is the misinformation and lies that have come out as reasons why the code is not being released 18:49 chris and the character assasinations of members of the community 18:49 Genji Prehaps being owners of Koha brand, went to their heads. 18:49 chris plus the fact liblime are not letting others have any input into the koha.org website 18:50 chris Genji: i think that's entirely it, they think they are the owners of the brand 18:50 Genji ... uhh.. I thought they were. 18:51 chris no, no one can own koha 18:52 chris they own the koha.org domain, but that has always been held in trust for the community, and liblime have said they were doing that also 18:52 chris they may have renegged on that 18:52 chris and they have also registered a trademark in the US 18:53 chris but no one and everyone owns koha 18:53 Genji Against the spirit of koha, eh? 18:53 chris yep 18:54 chris they have been asked by HLT who were voted to represent the community, to release the domain name, and if they meant what they said in the past about being custodians, they would 18:55 Genji Find it funny .... "Has contributed over 55% of the entire Koha codebase, including the integration of Koha and Zebra" on their paid support page... This really true? Do they think lines of code is shares in a company or something? 18:56 chris hehe not only isnt it true, like you say, even if it was it means nothing 18:56 chris ok i have to catch my bus, back in about 50 mins 19:10 nengard non-koha related question - are any of your libraries using Scribus? 19:13 owen No, but I'm glad to have Googled it 19:13 owen Looks interesting 19:16 nengard it's included in my book, but it's the only app i don't have a library interview for 19:18 imp can i run koha with sqlite instead of mysql? 19:20 owen imp: No one has done any development to that end as far as I know 19:22 Genji Okay, i need some CCL syntax help. 19:23 Genji Anyone available? 19:26 imp owen: do you know if it needs some mysql specific features? 19:26 owen I do know that work has been done to *remove* mysql-specific syntax, so the answer must be no 19:27 imp :D 19:27 owen If you look at chris's proposal for the 3.4 RM position, you'll see that one of his goals is Database Abstraction: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:development:rm3.4proposal 19:30 imp k 19:51 chris back 19:52 chris imp: nope doesnt need them, but i suspect some still exist 19:52 Genji hey chris. You know ccl language syntax? 19:58 chris not really sorry, there is probably some stuff about it on the LOC website though 19:59 * chris just has to do some work, then will look 20:01 cato anyone know of a command line script to export data from koha into MARC records? 20:02 chris there is a cgi script, you could easily run that from the commandline 20:02 chris and now i really have to do some work :-) 20:02 schuster cato - I do not, but the web version of extraction in tools works - the only problem that I have had with it is leaving the authority numbers at the end of authority fields. 20:03 schuster I have a couple of things to try to remove them, but havn't gotten back to it. 20:38 jwagner See Bug 3821 -- any ideas? 20:38 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3821 enhancement, P5, ---, paul.poulain@biblibre.com, NEW, Adding item with receive issue in serials subscription causes error 20:45 hdl_laptop jwagner: patch is on rel 3.0.x for default_ind_to_space 20:45 hdl_laptop should be cherry-picked back into master 20:46 hdl_laptop jwagner: tjis is owed to the substr and the fact that string in substr can be shorter than expected. 20:46 hdl_laptop (here indicators in item modification page is not meaningfull 20:46 hdl_laptop ) 20:47 hdl_laptop see c71c4bf9c5fddcb332e5c79e95ed67ff9bd95a24 on branch 3.0.x 20:47 hdl_laptop hope that helps 20:48 hdl_laptop and bfffa5 20:48 hdl_laptop let me know 20:49 jwagner hdl_laptop, thanks 21:51 schuster question for those perlers... when it says error on line 70 of the code or do the comments count as part of the lines? 21:51 schuster schuster again shows his lack of programming in over 15 years. 21:53 chris yes 21:53 chris but that error may be caused by something further up, ie where its reported is not always the cause 21:53 chris if you get stuck, use http://paste.workbuffer.org/ 21:53 chris :) 22:02 schuster I was fiddling with check-url.pl 22:07 schuster guess that's it for today! more fun tomorrow! 22:58 Nate gnight everyone! 23:00 chris_n2_ @later tell ricardo the template problem may be due to the double slash between 'opac-tmpl' and 'en' 23:00 munin chris_n2_: The operation succeeded. 23:22 Genji hello, anyone who knows CCL here, that has time to help out for a few minutes? 23:22 imp what is ccl? 23:22 Genji the language that Search.pm talks to Zebra with. 23:23 imp k, dunno then :/ 23:30 chris_n2_ Genji: don't you mean CQL? http://www.indexdata.com/zebra/doc/querymodel.html#querymodel-query-languages-cql 23:40 Genji hmm.. 23:50 chris_n2_ Genji: ok, CCL and Koha: http://koha.org/documentation/manual/3.0/searching/guide-to-searching/common-command-language-searching