Time  Nick            Message
23:41 pianohacker     new hard drive, fresh ubuntu install, back in business
21:17 chris_n         bbiab
21:14 imp             :(
21:11 chris_n         rain-on-birthday--
20:49 * chris         wanders off again
20:49 chris           either admit there you arent releasing it and stop calling it open source, or release it already
20:48 chris           blatantly and obviously lying and bullying
20:48 chris           im so over this
20:48 chris           so if its finished, release it already, you liar
20:48 chris           "LibLime Enterprise Koha is built on over two years of completed customer-sponsored development, including several highly-anticipated academic and consortia features."
20:44 chris           they seem like nice people doing nice things, with the right idea but have been misled by liblime to believe that by choosing LEK they are choosing open source
20:43 * chris         just put 2 and 2 together
20:43 chris           actually, yes i have
20:41 chris           nope
20:41 owen            chris is that an organization you'd heard of before?
20:40 chris           someone needs to beat liblime with the stop lying stick
20:39 chris           and to top the day off http://www.librarytechnology.org/ltg-displaytext.pl?RC=14380
20:31 pianohackr|work np
20:31 pianohackr|work bbl, replacing dying hard drive
20:31 veryinky        Oh well, thanks in any event.
20:31 * veryinky      spent 3 hours re-installing apache and perl only to find out I missed a step.
20:30 pianohackr|work cool
20:30 veryinky        Not really, going to play with the tutorial I found now.
20:30 pianohackr|work Anything else we can help with?
20:29 pianohackr|work Koha installs aren't any fun if they work the first time
20:29 veryinky        Sorry for that, I thought it was something more complicated, but instead it was just me missing a step.
20:28 veryinky        Yeah. Silly mistake. It works now.
20:27 pianohackr|work No koha user?
20:26 veryinky        Ah. I think that's what went wrong.
20:24 veryinky        I'm checking if the koha user really exists right now. Checked if XML::LibXSLT was properly installed, but that checked out.
20:23 veryinky        Tried root and su
20:23 pianohackr|work veryinky: Are you running it as root, using sudo or su?
20:22 veryinky        When i make install, I get a [set_koha_ownership] Error 1, does this mean I missed a step? Using stable 3.0 target as standard.
20:15 Colin           and lots more coming
20:15 Colin           some places have been getting unprecedented rainfall here the past couple of days
20:12 jwagner         We had a wicked nor'easter waddle through here last week -- WAY too much rain and coastal flooding.
20:11 Colin           heart felt echo from a very wet uk
20:10 * jdavidb       echoes jwagner's Harrumph!
20:09 jwagner         I'll toss in a Harrumph
20:08 wizzyrea_       humbug!
20:08 * chris         writes emails and postpones til tomorrow
20:08 wizzyrea_       Noooo!
20:08 chris           gah, kahu turned 3 yesterday, big party planned for the park today, we have been up most of the night making stuff for it (nursery rhyme theme) and now its raining :(
20:05 wizzyrea_       here too
20:04 chris           *nod* thats always the most fun thing for me too
20:03 Colin           We did a presentation to some libraries the other week and it was the fact that koha is world wide that excited them
20:03 Colin           There are so few koha libraries in the UK that I fear they will feel more isolated
20:02 chris           i think the language based lists are fine, having lists based on languages makes sense, lists based on geographic reasons not so much
20:00 chris           yeah, i always find it sad that people seek to splinter communities
20:00 * chris         wanders past
19:58 Colin           I'd rather some UK librarians looked at what some libraries elsewhere are doing
19:51 wizzyrea_       bah.
19:51 wizzyrea_       oh, never mindn
19:51 wizzyrea_       why do we need another list?
19:51 jwagner         owen, curmudgeons are always welcome here.  (Speaking as one....)
19:50 * owen          is feeling curmudgeonly after that announcement of another Koha list
19:49 owen            Top-posting a reply to a digest message to create a new topic? You must have been posting from your phone ;)
19:49 Nate            sorry bout that
19:48 Nate            ha!
19:48 owen            Nate, you're tempting the wrath of the email style nazis!
19:11 cait            have a nice weekend chris
19:09 chris           apache is fine with the spacing, it might be zebra that doesnt like it, but now the kids are awake so thats me for the weekend
18:57 schuster        Thanks Chris - I may poke more at this next week.
18:57 schuster        Well have to go pickup my son run him to the doctor - runny green nose and a cough - not good going into a weekend!
18:57 schuster        That's where I was yesterday, but apache doesn't like the spacing.
18:52 schuster        oh you mean in the config?
18:52 schuster        But it is dynamic based on the URL.
18:49 chris           SetENV OPAC_SEARCH_LIMIT "branch: 101 or branch: 901"
18:48 chris           ok not promising this will work but try
18:40 schuster        uh oh - the wizard has left the chat.
18:40 chris           ill be back in 10 mins
18:40 chris           lemme test something
18:39 chris           branch: each library in the Koha installation can have its own PAC, with scoped searches.
18:39 chris           o
18:39 chris           a ccl query limit to add to all searches in this opac interface. common examples:
18:39 chris           *
18:39 chris           opac_search_limit
18:39 schuster        Cactus Configuration Language (CCL) - funny names...
18:37 schuster        sorry don't know what ccl is..
18:37 chris           do you know ccl syntax?
18:37 chris           hmmm actually you might be able too
18:36 schuster        doesn't hurt to poke!
18:36 schuster        I was seeing if there was a hack I could stick in there to "or 901"...;)
18:36 chris           or at least that is how it has been implemented
18:36 chris           its only designed to work with one limit
18:35 schuster        ah.  well so much for "easy!"
18:34 chris           its in C4/Auth.pm
18:33 chris           its not
18:33 schuster        Yes, but I don't see that pastebot on my opac-search.pl page.
18:31 chris           and that code that pastebot just showed, is using that
18:31 chris           ah yes that makes more sense, so you are setting OPAC_SEARCH_LIMIT in your apache config eh?
18:30 schuster        http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:development:rfcs3.2:rfc32_multiple_opac&s[]=url
18:30 pastebot        Someone at 192.168.15.101 pasted "my $opac_search_limit = $ENV{'" (9 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/62
18:28 chris           but i dont see any $ENV{'BRANCH'}
18:27 chris           C4/Auth.pm:        my $opac_limit_override = $ENV{'OPAC_LIMIT_OVERRIDE'};
18:27 chris           C4/Auth.pm:        my $opac_search_limit = $ENV{'OPAC_SEARCH_LIMIT'};
18:27 chris           cos i can see things like this
18:27 chris           which rfc are you following, and where does it mention a branch env variable?
18:25 schuster        wow...  deep stuff.
18:24 chris           schuster: but the the userenv is not looking at the apache env variables at that point
18:22 cait            hi jdavidb :)
18:22 schuster        hmmm ok thnks
18:22 jdavidb         Hi, cait! :)
18:21 cait            hi #koha
18:20 chris           my $branch = '';
18:20 chris           else
18:20 chris           my $branch = C4::Context->userenv->{branch};
18:20 chris           what it says is, if there is a value set for C4::Context->userenv->{branch} and SearchMyLibraryFirst is switched on
18:19 chris           you need to look at the full line
18:18 chris           nope
18:17 schuster        C4::Context->userenv ) ? C4::Context->userenv->{branch} : '';  - so this calls the environmental variable and sticks it in between the quotes?
18:15 * jdavidb       wonders if that universe-defining module is available on CPAN.
18:15 schuster        Yep
18:14 owen            That shows an example: C4::Context->userenv->{branch}
18:13 owen            Look at line 118 of opac-search.pl
18:12 schuster        hmmm... so where is the call to find out the branch? from apache environmental variables?
18:11 owen            That just refers to input. "multibranchlimit" is a possible piece of input submitted by the form to the script
18:10 schuster        yes.
18:10 owen            schuster: Are you looking at where it says "$cgi->param('multibranchlimit')"
18:10 chris_n         ok, lunchtime
18:09 schuster        from the opac-search.pl I see multibranchlimit noted which I think is a cgi script?
18:09 schuster        I'm back to the multibranchlimit issue I've been kicking around.
18:08 owen            schuster: What are you looking for in particular?
18:08 owen            schuster: They're all there :) Except for what's in koha-tmpl, that's the templates.
18:08 jdavidb         it should, chris_n!
18:08 chris_n         jdavidb: I occasionally have nightmares in perl... does that count?
18:07 schuster        Yes
18:07 owen            schuster: Do you know where koha is installed?
18:07 jdavidb         chris_n:  Why can't everything be Perl?  after all, the universe is defined in perl:  http://xkcd.com/224/
18:06 chris_n         owen: tnx just found it myself
18:05 schuster        I want to look at one.
18:04 schuster        Ok so where are the cgi scripts stored?
18:04 owen            Looks like you can also check $(foo).attr("checked");
18:03 chris_n         ahh... $("input[name=barcode_print]:checked") is 0 if checked and undef if unchecked
18:01 owen            To be honest, I have to look that one up every time.
18:00 * chris_n       wonders why js cannot be perl instead :-\
18:00 chris_n         but I think that is the 'value=foo' attribute rather than the state of checked/unchecked
17:59 chris_n         I have been checking '$("input[name=barcode_print]:checked").val()'
17:59 chris_n         owen: how do I check the state of a checkbox (ie. if it is checked or not) in jquery?
17:13 owen            No. It's only if you're using the jquery syntax that you use the #: $("#barcode")
17:12 chris_n         owen: should document.getElementById('barcode') really be document.getElementById("#barcode")?
17:09 chris_n         schuster: he's probably eating breakfast
17:09 schuster        wizzyrea - you about?
17:09 chris_n         amadan: disclaimer... it is not considered stable atm... so ymmv
17:09 schuster        chris here?
17:08 chris_n         amadan: you can get it here: http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=Koha;a=snapshot;h=58ee841a73ea02d38d465e8c4663ab7bf509a62e
17:07 chris_n         owen: tnx for trying
17:06 owen            Sorry chris_n, I don't know
17:06 chris_n         owen: still no go
17:06 imp             no risk no fun ;)
17:03 wizzyrea_       it is not a proper stable release.
17:03 wizzyrea_       amandan: to get that version you will have to download Koha from the Git repo.
17:02 chris_n         owen: ok... maybe we found out the problem... firefox just did me a favor and crashed :-P
17:01 chris_n         no success
17:00 owen            chris_n: shift-refresh maybe?
17:00 chris_n         owen: no joy... maybe I need to restart firefox
16:59 amadan          do we have the link to dowload koha 3.01.00.061
16:58 * chris_n       tries
16:58 owen            I think it's a Firebug bug rather than an jQuery problem.
16:57 owen            I see that quite often, and I'm not sure what the cause is. I get around it by navigating away from and back to the page.
16:57 chris_n         it only occurs with one division... others on the same page just like it work fine
16:57 chris_n         yup
16:57 owen            Are you working in the Firebug console by any chance?
16:57 chris_n         *jquery 'foo.style is undefined'
16:56 chris_n         owen: what might cause a 'jquery foo.style is undefined' when I can see that it *is* defined?
16:55 amadan          thanks guys will look into it
16:55 chris_n         lol
16:55 * owen          salutes
16:55 chris_n         owen: ping
16:43 kf              bye #koha :)
16:42 kf              chris_n is right - we chose 3.1 because of sip2 - they have self check machines
16:40 chris_n         amadan: I'd recommend 3.0.4_final as the dev repo may not be entirely stable
16:39 kf              amada: our library runs with  3.01.00.061 (in production since october), very stable and not problems so far
16:36 owen            amadan: The 3.x version has been in use for quite a while now
16:29 amadan          Chris, can this be run in production fairly without any hitches?
16:28 * chris_n       runs off of the current development repo
16:27 chris_n         3.0.4_fixed to be exact
16:27 chris_n         amadan: 3.0.4 is the current stable version
16:26 amadan          because i'm tending to go back to an earlier version for production purposes
16:26 amadan          Let me re-phrase my question. Does any body have any idea how many production koha 3 installs are there approximately?
16:24 amadan          any body running koha 3 in production
16:13 ccurry          wizzyrea: Amlib Library Management System.  Actually, it probably does have this functionality; I haven't determined this for sure.  I'm very quick to slander Amlib these days; it has been hanging on to our data as if its life depended on it (actually, it does).  We've just about wrenched the last of our data from its dying hands, though, so keep your fingers crossed.
16:09 paul_p          s/type/type de document/ is better
16:09 nahuel          ahah
16:08 jwagner         Merci!
16:08 paul_p          "Définit quel jeu de champs est utilisé pour la limitation par type dans la recherche avancée de l'OPAC"
16:08 paul_p          "Définit quel jeu de champs est utilisé pour la limitation par type dans la recherche avancée"
16:06 zico            ok... "make clean" sloved the problem :P
16:05 jwagner         (By translation file I mean installer/data/mysql/fr-FR/1-Obligatoire/unimarc_standard_systemprefs.sql)
16:04 jwagner         Select which set of fields comprise the Type limit in the OPAC advanced search
16:04 jwagner         Select which set of fields comprise the Type limit in the advanced search
16:04 jwagner         I'm setting up a separate syspref for AdvancedSearchTypes, so OPAC can use a different setting than staff.  In the translation file, I notice the original syspref isn't translated either, so maybe two strings:
16:03 nahuel          jwagner, yep
16:03 jwagner         nahuel or paul_p or any other French speakers available for a syspref translation?
15:59 wizzyrea        ccurry what is your current cheap skate ILS?
15:56 nahuel          hehe
15:55 ccurry          nahuel: ok.  thanks. It'd be a nice feature, but it's not a deal breaker, our current cheap skate ILS can't do this either (and we had to pay for that!).
15:53 nahuel          ccurry, yes I mean the z3950 client build in :) As I know, it doesn't exist other way... perhaps exporting records from oclc in MARC21, and importing it in koha ?
15:51 zico            Error 2?
15:51 zico            debian:/opt/koha-3.00.04_fixed# make /usr/bin/perl "-Iblib/arch" "-Iblib/lib" fix-perl-path.PL blib /usr/bin/perl "-Iblib/arch" "-Iblib/lib" rewrite-config.PL blib/ZEBRA_CONF_DIR/etc/passwd Can't open blib/ZEBRA_CONF_DIR/etc/passwd for read at rewrite-config.PL line 172. make: *** [blib/ZEBRA_CONF_DIR/etc/passwd] Error 2 "
15:51 ccurry          ...this work with iii: Connexion is configured with a url to access the ILS server and the records are directly imported.
15:51 ccurry          nahuel: Are you referring to the built in z3950 client in koha, @ /cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/z3950_search.pl?  I was hoping there was a way to use the Connexion client to find the records (since that's the software our cataloging staff are used to) and import them directly from the client.  Connexion has more sophisticated search capabilities than the z3950 client built into koha.  I've seen...
15:51 zico            i am facing this problem now
15:51 zico            ok guys
15:46 nahuel          ccurry, you can, using z3950 oclc's server
15:44 ccurry          Hello, all.  Does anyone know if it's possible to use  OCLC's connexion client to import (a) MARC record(s) into Koha?
15:43 chris_n         zico: take a look under the section "Who contributes to Koha Library Automation Package?"
15:43 zico            i think.. if i would thank All Mighty... he would definitely gave me something!!! :D
15:43 zico            nah! actually... i want to see their bio s .. who can create such giant and beautiful software for FREE!!!!
15:43 chris_n         hehe
15:42 paul_p          nahuel: true you're paid, but 1- you do a good job, and 2- you're efficient, so, chris_n is right ;-) (PS: don't deduce you should ask for more money ;-) )
15:42 chris_n         zico: you can see some info about some of the developers here: http://www.ohloh.net/p/koha
15:41 nahuel          :)
15:41 * chris_n       agrees with nahuel and imp
15:40 imp             nahuel: full ack :)
15:40 nahuel          private life is private :)
15:40 chris_n         lol
15:40 imp             zico: naah, but i prefer to keep a minimal footprint in the web
15:40 nahuel          zico, you'll never see that kind of stuffs about me :)
15:40 nahuel          chris, i'm paid to do this :)
15:40 zico            :(
15:40 zico            r u guys laughing @ me???
15:39 zico            :(
15:39 chris_n         nahuel: I think it is great to see you submitting so many fixes :-)
15:39 imp             zico: stalker ;P
15:39 wizzyrea        facebook >.>
15:39 wizzyrea        OH lol
15:39 zico            :)
15:39 zico            i mean... pictures... their hobbies... nd other
15:39 wizzyrea        also good
15:39 nahuel          or the koha about.pl page
15:38 wizzyrea        wiki.koha.org
15:38 wizzyrea        well, the wiki is pretty good
15:38 zico            :)
15:38 zico            i mean, i want to see those persons.. who are not human being.. but in a form of human being!
15:38 zico            hey, are there any sites from where i can get all the information of koha developers?
15:37 nahuel          why do you say that ?
15:37 nahuel          ^^
15:37 * chris_n       thinks nahuel is the patch king
15:36 imp             cya chris_n ;)
15:36 * chris_n       runs out of the room screaming
15:35 chris_n         uh oh.... a label question on the list....
15:35 zico            sure thing brother
15:34 * chris_n       heads back into the pit of labels and patroncards code
15:33 chris_n         zico: give a shout here if you get too stuck
15:33 * chris_n       notes "properly" is the operation word here
15:32 chris_n         zico: once up and running properly, the Z will pretty much take care of itself
15:32 zico            :(
15:32 zico            my current big server...which is IBM SYSTEM X3500 needs a lot of care all the time
15:32 chris_n         disclaimer: zebra is not for the faint of heart, so preserver and do plenty of list archive searching
15:32 zico            but.. i think.. zebra is not that much smart.. it needs a lot of take care!
15:31 zico            :)
15:31 zico            ok.. .let`s see.. what it can help
15:31 chris_n         your searches will be faster as well I think
15:31 chris_n         zico: sorry I can't be of more help, but I do think your best solution is to back up and setup zebra
15:30 zico            lolz
15:30 zico            "koha without a zebra is like a car without an engine".. haha :D i think... i should use this with chris`s comment in my facebook status
15:30 zico            :D
15:30 chris_n         most likely so and probably many you have not encountered... yet
15:29 wizzyrea        ;)
15:29 zico            haha :D
15:29 wizzyrea        can't hurt, might help
15:29 zico            r u sure that, zebra will solve the problem?
15:29 wizzyrea        (at me, not at anyone else, of course)
15:29 * chris_n       thinks a koha without a zebra is like a car without an engine
15:29 * wizzyrea      waits for the finger pointing and giggling
15:28 chris_n         heh
15:28 wizzyrea        go with zebra. (says the queen of the nozebra)
15:28 wizzyrea        yea
15:28 wizzyrea        oh, heh
15:28 zico            chris_n: yes, i am running nozebra
15:28 chris_n         zico: I'd recommend setting up zebra
15:28 zico            ok.. the latest error in log:  "[Fri Nov 20 21:22:39 2009] [error] [client 127.0.1.1] File does not exist: /usr/share/koha/intranet/htdocs/opac-tmpl, referer: http://127.0.1.1:8080/cgi-bin/koha/catalogue/search.pl?q=computer ~                                                                                                                            "
15:28 hdl             you had better go with zebra
15:27 * chris_n       thinks nozebra has some issues... maybe hdl or paul_p can comment
15:27 chris_n         ahhh... zico, are you running nozebra?
15:26 zico            chris_n: if i enter an annonymous keyword "computer".. it can search.. but, if i put a "specific" barcode.. it cannot search
15:25 zico            yep
15:25 chris_n         zico: is the line you posted above the only entry in the error log that pertains to this problem?
15:23 chris_n         or the like
15:23 chris_n         zico: say, keyword = book
15:23 zico            yep, i can search based on other criteria
15:23 wizzyrea        chris_n: I think I shall!
15:23 chris_n         zico: can you search based on other criteria?
15:23 imp             script it?
15:23 chris_n         zico: how did you import your records?
15:22 zico            how can i do that in a easy way? what do you guys suggest me?
15:22 chris_n         wizzyrea: feel free to open a bug for it though
15:22 zico            i need to print 18,000 barcodes now
15:22 wizzyrea        :)
15:22 * chris_n       did not write the search code ;-)
15:21 zico            so... chris_n & wizzyrea... the thing is
15:21 chris_n         yeah, it should be smarter than that
15:21 wizzyrea        chris_n: that behavior of checking the bib date actually quite annoys our librarians
15:20 chris_n         zico: maybe hdl or someone else who has access to a 3.0.4 install could verify if this is a bug
15:20 zico            so, what should i suppose to do now?
15:19 chris_n         so you may end up with some items which fall outside of the requested range
15:19 chris_n         actually, the date range returns all items attached to a bib if one of the items was added in the date range specified
15:18 chris_n         ie. the "cutting edge" so to speak
15:18 chris_n         zico: the main git repo: http://git.koha.org
15:18 chris_n         I do notice that the date range is apparently run against the date of the bib rather than the items attached to the bib
15:18 zico            chris_n: "current HEAD"? what does it means?
15:17 chris_n         zico: this works in the current HEAD... I cannot vouch for 3.0.4 as we are running off of the development HEAD here and I don't have a 3.0.4 install handy
15:16 imp             (but I'm not responsible for the weather ;D)
15:15 imp             thx
15:15 wizzyrea        wow imp, that's impressive
15:15 imp             current sky over hannover -> http://hannover.ccc.de/~imp/100_5522.jpg ;)
15:13 * chris_n       looks
15:13 wizzyrea        chris_n any thoughts on that one?
15:08 zico            ok.. the latest error msg. "[Fri Nov 20 21:00:51 2009] [error] [client 127.0.1.1] [Fri Nov 20 21:00:51 2009] label-item-search.pl: NZAND at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Search.pm line 1808., referer: http://127.0.1.1:8080/cgi-bin/koha/labels/label-item-search.pl"
15:07 zico            ummm... lemme check
15:07 wizzyrea        can anybody out there with 3.0.4 confirm that as a problem? (and zico, is there anything in your koha error logs?)
15:06 wizzyrea        hmm
15:05 zico            but.. i can search with Title,Author or Barcode there
15:05 zico            I cannot search with date range in "Add item(s) to batch"...
15:04 wizzyrea        what kind of problem?
15:03 zico            hi, i have been using koha 3.0.4 ..but.. i am facing problem with "Label printing"
15:02 wizzyrea        derrr
15:02 wizzyrea        nevermind, branch = branchcode
15:01 wizzyrea        ORDER BY branch
15:01 wizzyrea        GROUP BY branchcode,categorycode
15:01 wizzyrea        FROM borrowers WHERE MONTH(dateenrolled) = 04 AND YEAR(dateenrolled)= 2009
15:01 wizzyrea        ugh, what is wrong, this won't work: SELECT branchcode,categorycode,COUNT(*)
15:00 wizzyrea        we have a proud history of being progressives... it's only recently that we've become backwards.
14:53 owen            Who'd have thought that Kansas would turn out to be the Koha powerhouse of the nation?
14:52 wizzyrea        :)
14:52 wizzyrea        and bringing in 7 more libraries next week.
14:51 wizzyrea        625777 items in our collection this morning
14:33 hdl             hello all
14:29 owen            http://video.adultswim.com/the-mighty-boosh/elite-elbow-patch-selection.html
14:28 wizzyrea        or artistic, depending on how you look at it
14:28 wizzyrea        those are very geeky
14:28 owen            Watch out for the stylishness when Owen gets him some elbow patches.
14:27 owen            Now there are holes worn in the elbows. I need me some of those elbow patches.
14:27 kf              not freezing here - but foggy all day
14:27 * owen          keeps a jacket in his office for freezing-time
14:27 wizzyrea        jebus, my office is freezing!
14:26 wizzyrea        all good things come to those who contribute!
14:25 wizzyrea        dude, I don't see YOUR reports on the wiki...
14:23 jdavidb         first thing this morning, jwagner was crowing about all the good karma she got from you yesterday..  :P
14:23 jdavidb         good morning, wizzyrea!
14:22 wizzyrea        and good morning :)
14:22 wizzyrea        oh yep, that'll do it
14:19 amadan          the permissions in mysql were not updated
14:18 amadan          I think i found out
14:18 owen            does anyone have a suggestion for amadan about what might have gone wrong during installation to cause tables to be missing from the koha database?
14:07 amadan          something to do with system preference tables and a whole lot of others
14:07 amadan          i guess
14:07 owen            amadan: It sounds like your installation did not go without a hitch after all
14:06 jdavidb         Hi, paul_p2!
14:06 paul_p2         hello american koha-ers !
14:06 Melanie         the insanity has died down at least for a bit
14:06 Melanie         it's going!
14:06 amadan          [Tue Nov 17 09:43:12 2009] [error] [client 127.0.1.1] [Tue Nov 17 09:43:12 2009] Reserves.pm: DBD::mysql::db selectrow_array failed: Table 'koha.systempreferences' doesn't exist at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 485.
14:06 amadan          I get a bunch of these, looks like the tables are not being installed
14:04 owen            Hi Melanie, how's it going?
13:52 owen            Look for koha-error_log and koha-opac-error_log
13:51 amadan          where would that be located or what would it be called? in ubuntu
13:50 owen            Have you looked at your error logs?
13:50 amadan          the installation went fine without a hitch
13:49 amadan          when i run the localhost:8080 and localhost:80 in the browser
13:47 owen            amadan: You'll have to give us more details about where and when you see the error
13:46 amadan          p-l-e-a-s-e
13:46 amadan          any body solved the "production mode - trapped fatal error" please i need help
13:45 owen            We'll be here :)
13:45 ftherese        thanks a bunch
13:45 ftherese        I got to run but I'll be back
13:45 * owen          isn't sure about 3.0.4...
13:45 ftherese        3.0.4
13:45 ftherese        I have to run... but I am curious why the other online services don't seem to do anything either
13:45 owen            ftherese: What version are you running?
13:44 owen            And I don't have AmazonAssocTag filled in. It's not required.
13:44 ftherese        yeah... me too, the AmazonDevKey preference appears on my Local use tab
13:44 owen            I don't have an AmazonDevKey preference, all I have is AWSAccessKeyID
13:43 owen            In my installation the description of "AmazonEnabled" says "Turn On Amazon Content - You MUST set AmazonDevKey and AmazonAssocTag if enabled"
13:43 ftherese        now,  why don't any of the other services work either?
13:43 ftherese        ok
13:43 owen            I think that's an error in the description
13:43 ftherese        but according to the enriched content tab it is needed
13:43 ftherese        I certainly didnt' do it on purpose
13:42 ftherese        uh... well
13:42 owen            Hmm.... if it's on the Local Use tab that usually means you added it yourself
13:42 ftherese        and the description on Rich Content tab says it needs to be filled in
13:41 ftherese        says AmazonDevKey
13:41 ftherese        I am looking at local use settings tab on system preferences
13:41 owen            ftherese: Where do you see reference to amazonDevKey? Are you looking at the AmazonEnabled description?
13:37 ftherese        All I can find is the AWSAccessKey - there is nothing on the amazon site that looks like an amazonDevKey... what do I put in that blank?
13:31 ftherese        anyone know the difference between the AWSAccessKeyID and the AmazonDevKey?
13:28 jwagner         good morning chris_n
13:28 chris_n         g'morning
13:21 ftherese        few do... that is probably the problem
13:20 jwagner         ftherese, I can't help you with amazon/google, except to note that I think they both depend on matching ISBNs.  Does your data have correct ISBNs?
13:19 amadan          is there anything i'm doing wrong
13:19 amadan          I installed koha 3.04 and i get "production mode trapped"
13:19 amadan          Hi
13:18 ftherese        but that is it... I got all kinds of codes and plugged them into the system settings
13:18 ftherese        I do occasionally get amazon book covers
13:18 ftherese        I am also wondering why the amazon/google book / extra information doesn't show up
13:17 ftherese        that should be good enough for the demonstration I need to make to our head librarian today
13:16 ftherese        which makes sense
13:16 ftherese        ahh... ok it only shows up in Holds Awaiting pickup...
13:15 ftherese        ok... I made a reservation with a regular opac user using opac site, and it doesn't show up in the reservation queue
13:13 ftherese        from the system settings
13:13 ftherese        I enabled everything I possibly could
13:13 ftherese        I don't really know why though
13:13 ftherese        most of the options appear to be incorrectly installed
13:12 ftherese        ok... that is what I am doing right now...
13:12 jwagner         If you're running staff on the :8080 port, you will automatically be logged into the OPAC with your staff ID.  Log out of staff mode to try logging into the OPAC with a different (patron) account.
13:10 ftherese        cool
13:10 ftherese        ok... I've never seen this before
13:10 ftherese        ahhhh
13:09 jdavidb         correct, based on a default installation.
13:09 jwagner         jdavidb, help my memory here.  The normal staff address is something like my.servername.com:8080, right?  And the opac would then be my.servername.com (with no port number)?
13:08 ftherese        let me create a test
13:08 jwagner         They should be able to go to the opac and log in with that ID and password
13:08 ftherese        is there a separate address they have to use?
13:07 ftherese        and set no permissions, they can't access the catalog
13:07 ftherese        if I give a patron a username and password
13:07 ftherese        now, how does one access the opac?
13:07 ftherese        ok... yes so that is enabled
13:06 jwagner         That depends on the syspref for whether you allow on-shelf holds (AllowOnShelfHolds).
13:06 ftherese        let me try putting another book on hold... if the book is currently available, can it still be put on hold?
13:05 ftherese        ok... I have checked the circulation settings, they look fine
13:05 jwagner         Check the manual site http://koha.org/documentation/manual/3.0 for circ system preferences, item type and circ rule setup.  An item has to be able to be circulated (i.e., not a "not for loan" status) or it can't be placed on hold.
13:03 ftherese        I am assuming I can see that in system preferences
13:02 ftherese        but as for the other things I will need to check
13:02 ftherese        ok, items and patrons ARE from the same library code RIM,
13:01 jwagner         You can't log into staff mode without permissions, but patrons can log into their OPAC accounts.  There are a lot of things to be checked for holds -- can the item type circulate, are there circulation rules in place, do you allow on-shelf holds, are your patrons and items from the same library (if not, do you allow holds between libraries), etc.
12:59 ftherese        because I tried just making a generic user account, but it wouldn't let that person log in until I set some permissions
12:59 ftherese        does it imply a particular permissions set?
12:59 jwagner         OPAC is the interface your patrons use.
12:58 ftherese        what is opac?  I can't figure out what the difference is between opac and the web interface in general
12:58 ftherese        in staff I believe
12:57 jwagner         where are you trying to place a hold?  In staff or OPAC?  And is the item available for circulation?
12:56 ftherese        hello... I'm having a problem with viewing holds... I imported my library, created a patron set, and now when I tried to reserve an item it doesn't show up in the holds section...  what do I do?
12:55 jwagner         I _told_ wizzyrea you were going to be jealous!
12:55 jdavidb         :-O
12:55 munin           jdavidb: Karma for "jwagner" has been increased 13 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 13.
12:55 jdavidb         @karma jwagner
11:36 amadan          3.0.04
11:35 chris_n2        what version are you running?
11:34 chris_n2        nothing
11:31 amadan          ie in functionality?
11:30 amadan          what will it cost me?
11:30 chris_n2        amadan: you can safely ignore failed tests atm
11:29 amadan          t/Circulation_barcodedecode.t; t/Labels_split_ddcn.t; t/Labels_split_lccn.t have status 255 and from the list of failed each one had 1 out of the total number failing. Could anyone help?
11:26 amadan          Hi, i get error 255 when i run make test, should i proceed or is there a remedy to it?
09:21 imp             moinsen
09:03 kf              morning nicomo
09:02 nicomo          morning kf morning all
08:59 kf              morning #koha
07:39 imp             hmmm, never had the same problem
07:37 Mehwish         yes. 100% sure.
07:37 imp             are you sure you get the same error on the opac page and the other one?
07:32 Mehwish         what should I do?
07:32 Mehwish         but here nothing I can see.. only this message "production mode - trapped fatal error"
07:31 imp             when i got the "bla trapped bla" message on the userinterface, the administrationpart was at least partitial working
07:29 Mehwish         thn missing perl modules?
07:29 imp             don't think so ;)
07:23 Mehwish         I think that is the reason.
07:23 Mehwish         now only version is new..
07:23 Mehwish         I installed Koha 3.00.02 thru same guide and got success.
07:22 Mehwish         I have ubuntu 8.
07:22 Mehwish         I get same message on both pages.
07:22 Mehwish         yes both.
07:22 imp             you are visiting the :80 page and not the :8080 page, right?
07:20 Mehwish         only this as written..
07:20 Mehwish         I got this "production mode - trapped fatal error"
07:20 Mehwish         when I reached at the step where we have to install koha from browser..
07:19 imp             what kind of error?
07:19 Mehwish         ?
07:19 Mehwish
07:19 Mehwish         can anyone help me?
07:18 Mehwish         but I am getting error.
07:18 Mehwish         I have installed koha 3.00.04
07:18 Mehwish         I am new to Koha
07:18 Mehwish         Hi all.
06:23 pianohacker     Okay, good night
06:15 pianohacker     Yes, just found url. Come to think of it, that would be a good convention handout
06:13 greenmang0      pianohacker: sounds familiar??
06:12 greenmang0      or if you want you can install working koha using that cd... installation takes 30 minutes on 256MB PIII system
06:11 pianohacker     Ahh, that sounds familiar, yes
06:11 greenmang0      which helps you try koha without installing it on your system
06:10 greenmang0      pianohacker: i have also created a koha live cd
06:10 pianohacker     Still helpful involvement
06:10 greenmang0      pianohacker: i just install koha for our clients... that's it
06:09 pianohacker     So how are you involved in Koha?
06:09 pianohacker     Yes, it is. :/ Can't come soon enough, nothing better than fresh mango
06:09 greenmang0      pianohacker: hehe...no mango season is yet to start
06:08 pianohacker     greenmang0: And how are you doing? (do you need some mango?)
06:08 greenmang0      pianohacker: :)
06:08 pianohacker     *see
06:08 pianohacker     My mom's from cuba, I can speak limited and broken spanish, and I might be able to help if they show up again, but we'll se
06:07 pianohacker     I just left a note in (possibly broken) spanish for this LadyNight32 character
06:06 pianohacker     hey, now, wait a minute
06:06 greenmang0      pianohacker: go hack piano, don't hack koha... :D
05:54 pianohacker     ah well
05:54 pianohacker     dang!
05:35 LadyNight32     bye
05:34 LadyNight32     i am from Cuba
05:33 LadyNight32     who speak spanish here?
05:33 LadyNight32     ok, thank you
05:32 greenmang0      LadyNight32: you can ask your questions here
05:21 LadyNight32     06hola a todos desde cuba
04:39 chris_n2        g'night #koha
04:16 pianohacker     hi, Amit
04:16 Amit            heya pianohacker
03:51 chris_n2        tnx pianohacker
03:50 pianohacker     better ui tho
03:50 pianohacker     chris_n2: it fails silently, requires an extra step and is a bit slower
03:50 pianohacker     yes
03:41 chris_n2        do I recall correctly that the staff-client marc import tool is a bit finicky and bulkmarcimport.pl the preferred method of importing records?
03:17 chris_n2        g'morning Amit
03:17 Amit            good morning #koha
03:17 Amit            hi chris_n2, chris,
00:25 * chris_n2      scratches his head
00:25 chris_n2        so someone into it enough to do that level of modification can modify the includes path , but not the template paths...
00:24 pianohacker     much less important today than in the 2.2 days, when the default opac was unattractive
00:24 pianohacker     than the opacss or opacjs preferences can (reasonably) provide
00:24 pianohacker     I think this is meant for more heavy-duty modifications
00:23 chris_n2        especially in light of the "skinning option"
00:23 pianohacker     If you were truly that opposed to modifying the base includes
00:23 chris_n2        which makes absolutely no sense
00:23 pianohacker     prog/en/includes_npl, for example
00:22 pianohacker     theoretically, you could use an includes directory besides prog/en/includes
00:22 pianohacker     chris_n2: it is implemented
00:11 chris_n2        it looks vestigial
00:11 chris_n2        what is the syspref 'intranet_includes' supposed to allow one to do?