Time  Nick        Message
22:25 wizzyrea    he must be in school
22:23 munin       chris_n2: gmcharlt was last seen in #koha 3 days, 6 hours, 23 minutes, and 46 seconds ago: <gmcharlt> yes, at that point it could be captured
22:23 chris_n2    @seen gmcharlt
22:21 chris_n2    last I knew you could setup other users in webmin... maybe an account linked to the koha unix user might be in order
22:20 indradg     chris_n2, its looking for *the* "any key"... its tough! :P
22:20 wizzyrea    lordy
22:19 chris       apparently everything
22:18 chris_n2    what is it that's hard to understand about "just don't run the script as root"?
22:17 chris       whatever one it is, its still not an apache problem ;)
22:16 indradg     chris, lol
22:15 chris       i wonder what rfc he was talking about
22:13 schuster    Off to pickup the little one!
22:12 chris       np
22:12 schuster    thanks for your help.
22:12 schuster    something to sleep on ;)
22:12 schuster    ah...
22:12 chris       the point is you have to write the code to deal with it
22:12 chris       its whatever you want
22:12 schuster    so is that a pipe? between the two?
22:12 chris       and then something in the code to understand if it sees a | thats an and, or an or if you want it to be an or
22:11 chris       BRANCHES 001|901
22:11 chris       you would have something like
22:11 chris       no
22:11 schuster    so you would have 2 lines in the variables for BRANCHES - but I wonder what it would do ???  or/and them?
22:10 schuster    phewy.
22:10 chris       its not an apache problem
22:10 chris       but the code needs to know what to with that
22:09 chris       you could set 2 branches in the env variable
22:09 schuster    sioux?
22:09 chris       you cant do that in apache
22:09 wizzyrea    apache is a funny indian
22:09 schuster    It talked about using regular expressions, but I don't understand that well enough ...  drat
22:09 schuster    not the answer I wanted...
22:09 chris       no
22:09 chris       so to do 2 branches?
22:08 schuster    Is there a way to tell it BRANCH:001 OR 901?
22:08 chris       right
22:08 schuster    Did you see my post on IRC earlier today?  I am using the multi-branch setup outlined in the RFC so I have an environmental variable in apache for BRANCH:001
22:07 chris       yep
22:07 schuster    Question about environmental variables in apache you any good with that?
22:07 chris       yep
22:06 schuster    chris around?
20:59 wizzyrea    I probably will the next time I see her.
20:58 wizzyrea    i love her. I could hug her.
20:56 jwagner     G'night all
20:42 wizzyrea    I know... it's one of those things where the more styles of sql queries you see, the better your approaches get
20:39 jwagner     Well, I learned a lot from the ones on the site already, & adapted some of them, so save some thanks for the other people.
20:39 wizzyrea    and choruses of angels are singing etc etc
20:39 wizzyrea    it's like the sky opened up and delightful delicious knowledge is raining down
20:39 jwagner     Goodness, wizzyrea.  jdavidb is going to be REALLY jealous!
20:39 cait        hi jwagner
20:39 jwagner     hi cait
20:39 wizzyrea    jwagner++ I'm still learning from all of your reports. What a huge help.
20:39 cait        hi wizzyrea :)
20:38 wizzyrea    hey cait
20:38 cait        hi #koha
20:29 jwagner     Awwwwwww
20:24 wizzyrea    I think that should work
20:24 wizzyrea    http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=325915&l=7105f61bb6&id=1078323327
20:22 wizzyrea    it was neat, spud slept through it but we had fun
20:22 sekjal      when we were walking to the entrance, a friend of mine touched the side of building, and got cut on a bolt that was jutting out
20:20 sekjal      was in there for a concert once....
20:20 sekjal      it's a neat space, but don't touch it; very sharp!
20:19 jwagner     I saw that museum from the outside when I had a stopover in Seattle this summer, but didn't go in.
20:19 * wizzyrea  goes to look for the pic....
20:19 wizzyrea    it's got computers playing guitars
20:18 wizzyrea    jwagner: you should see the giant guitar sculpture at the Music Experience Museum in Seattle
20:18 jwagner     wizzyrea, tie it to the branch's calendar days/hours!
20:18 wizzyrea    not sure how you'd tie it to koha though :)
20:18 wizzyrea    sekjal: something could probably be worked up in CRON...
20:16 sekjal      a configurable interface between Koha and any branch's IP-networked coffee maker
20:16 * jwagner   is getting silly, and it's not even Friday yet....
20:16 jwagner     Maybe make Koha play the 12-string guitar?
20:15 chris       i reckon we can come up with some kickarse stuff in 4 days
20:15 chris       is the plan
20:15 chris       3 day conference, 4 day hack fest
20:15 wizzyrea    chris++
20:15 wizzyrea    i'd be pulling out my hair today without it :D
20:15 wizzyrea    chris: I am STILL so thankful for that report editing feature you added at koha devcon
20:13 chris       true
20:12 jwagner     I'd suggest passing the hat first.  It's a less permanent solution :-)
20:12 chris       hehe
20:12 chris       my wife would kill me
20:11 chris       as its a free conference, i dont wanna end up out of pocket
20:11 chris       its all just wrangling for the best price
20:11 chris       in a month or so
20:10 fredericd   chris: When kohacon 2010 dates will be fixed?
20:10 jwagner     Wow.  That would be lovely, especially compared to the fares I saw today :-(
20:10 chris       every so often they got mental and offer cheap flights
20:09 chris       so 600$USD
20:09 chris       3 years ago a i got a $999nz return flight to SFO
20:08 jwagner     Thanks chris, will keep that in mind.  I have friends & family in San Francisco anyway, so that might tip the scales.
20:08 chris       airnz flies direct to both
20:08 jwagner     joetho, I've taken up cruising in the last couple of years -- I love traveling by ship.  But it might take far longer & cost far more than I can afford.
20:08 chris       SFO is a far nicer airport
20:07 chris       have the 2 best
20:07 chris       SFO and LAX
20:07 joetho      <---wonders about taking a slow boat instead
20:06 jwagner     chris, do you have a feel for which US-West-Coast airport might have better connections and flights?
20:06 jwagner     I was wishful-thinking a look at plane fares again today.  Right now it looks to be much cheaper to fly to LA or San Francisco, stay overnight to ease my poor arthritic joints, THEN fly to NZ.  A direct flight from the Washington area is hideously expensive and long, connecting in multiple places.
20:05 joetho      if I asked about that, MY director would recommend I have my head examined
20:04 joetho      in NZ?
20:01 sekjal      my director is recommending I look into travel grants
20:00 wizzyrea    I told him I was saving my pennies to go, and he said NEKLS could probably help out :)
20:00 chris       ill probably be broaching it with them :)
20:00 jwagner     No telling HOW that might play out.
20:00 wizzyrea    I have, actually
20:00 jwagner     We still haven't broached the topic of going with our bosses :-)
19:58 chris       jwagner: ill do a CFP for kohacon probably about march
19:57 munin       jwagner: Karma for "jwagner" has been increased 12 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 12.
19:57 jwagner     @karma jwagner
19:54 jwagner     Double the karma?  I'm overwhelmed :-)
19:54 wizzyrea    jwagner++
19:54 wizzyrea    jwagner++ for those reports
19:32 sekjal      its a good time
19:29 jwagner     Ah.  Dunno if we'll be going to that yet.  Maybe.
19:29 sekjal      Code4Lib
19:28 jwagner     Is this for Kohacon, or something else?  Inquiring minds want to know :-)
19:25 chris       w00t
19:25 sekjal      the Git one can be reduced to a lightning talk, probably, provided I have enough success with the file event APIs
19:25 sekjal      chris:  at least for the moment, my Koha talk seems to be in the top 17... perhaps it'll make it after all
19:12 munin       chris: The operation succeeded.
19:12 chris       @later tell |Lupin| some is asking about braille on the koha mailing list, maybe you can help them
19:11 chris       hmmm i hope lupin sees the messages i just let through to the mailing list
19:10 sekjal      yay!  thanks!
19:10 chris       heya sekjal, i voted for your talk :)
19:10 sekjal      morning, chris
19:09 chris       morning
17:32 kf          bye #koha
17:08 pianohacker Alright. Working on school
17:07 jwagner     You?
17:07 jwagner     Middlin' well.
17:07 pianohacker How's it going?
17:07 pianohacker Hi, jane
17:06 jwagner     Hi pianohacker
17:06 pianohacker Good morning
17:05 jwagner     Happy hunting/gathering
17:04 * chris_n   really must go and get food
17:03 davi        hi
17:03 chris_n     ie. I hurt at exactly 35 deg N, 78 deg W ;-)
17:03 wizzyrea    cool*
17:03 wizzyrea    it just seemed very geeky and col
17:02 wizzyrea    I think it's mostly for eco/performance measures related to velocity
17:02 wizzyrea    lulz
17:01 chris_n     maybe the car can then give you exact coordinates as to where the problem is??
17:01 jwagner     Harrumph.  Sounds like something the Head of Inadvisably Applied Magic, er, Technology came up with....
17:01 chris_n     occasionally the car has something worth hearing
17:01 wizzyrea    i knew about the laptop deal, but I hadn't ever heard of it being integrated with a GPS
17:00 wizzyrea    that is sweet too
17:00 chris_n     real time
17:00 chris_n     I have an interface I built so my laptop can speak with the car
17:00 wizzyrea    that is like, car nerd heaven
17:00 wizzyrea    in real time
17:00 wizzyrea    output your car computer codes/performance/eco info to your nuvi, I should say
16:59 wizzyrea    garmin makes a thing you can plug into the diagnostic port and it will output data to your NUVI
16:59 jwagner     chris_n, if you drive a car made in the last, say, 15 years, you have a computer there too.
16:59 chris_n     well... maybe the ECU counts for one in the car
16:58 chris_n     I think the only place I don't have a computer is in my car :-)
16:57 jwagner     Isn't that what laptops are for, so you can take your office with you????
16:57 * chris_n   is scared to leave his office now...
16:56 * wizzyrea  hopes that chris_n double checked
16:56 chris_n     hehe...
16:56 jwagner     chris_n, I trust you SAVED your work :-)
16:55 jwagner     There was a nifty presentation at the API After Hours session (Sirsi conference a couple of years ago) about a web interface to Sirsi data with setups for predefined reports.  I think staff could enter some parameters but the overall structure was set up in advance.  Something like that might be useful for Koha.
16:55 chris_n     now that I'm back to where I was two days ago, I think I'll go find lunch :-P
16:47 jwagner     schuster, sorry, I misread what you were wanting to do.
16:47 jwagner     schuster, you could do that now with a .sql file regardless of having it as an installer file.  I've done a couple of direct .sql files (and screwed up a couple of others), but I try to leave that to the experts.  But it can be done to insert one line into the saved_sql table.
16:47 wizzyrea    you still have to create them, but you avoid the epic list
16:46 wizzyrea    schuster: we are talking about creating the reports and linking to them from a site external to koha
16:43 schuster    Like this idea!  I wouldn't have to create 67 reports one for each school every time there was a new one!  I could put it out there and then each school could put in their location or collection they wanted or etc...
16:38 wizzyrea    paul_p are these the parameters settings you're talking about: This lets you specify SQL Parameters in any SQL reports you create. These take the form __PARAM_NAME__. If you define a parameter, it will be used by the system as a  variable whenever you run the report. This should dramatically cut down on the number of individual reports you need to create, because you'll be able to 'fill in the blank' on the variable for similar reports prior to running the
16:34 paul_p      kf: you're working on biblibre_head ?
16:34 jwagner     paul_p, I've been thinking about that -- a lot of these reports are ones that I use on multiple sites.  It would be a lot easier to run an installer than to recreate them each time.  Figuring out which ones to include might be the hard part....
16:34 wizzyrea    paul_p do you have a demo where I can look at the parameters setup stuff?
16:30 * paul_p    suggest to add a lot of reports directly during koha setup (with the parameters setup, it's really easy. Just put the SQL and a small .txt in the installer/data/mysql/en/optional directory)
16:28 jwagner     Thanks :-)  Some of my sites are very, er, SPECIFIC, about report needs.
16:28 wizzyrea    jwagner!! Those are GREAT!
16:25 * wizzyrea  goes to look
16:25 wizzyrea    jwagner: spectacular!
16:11 jwagner     wizzyrea, I added all those SQL reports to the wiki page like I promised :-)  Hope they're useful to someone & that I didn't make any egregious errors in my SQL....
16:10 jwagner     wizzyrea, thanks.  I'll catch up with her later.
16:03 wizzyrea    jwagner: nengard is in rome, guess she's had epic trouble finding wifi in europe
15:51 tomascohen  we want to compare its speed in a virtualized env with a dedicated server
15:51 tomascohen  anyone has any ideas on how to benchmark zebra performance?
15:39 schuster    wizzyrea - yep me too..  I'm playing with the multi-pac setup to see if there is a way to get multiple locations and not just one with the branch: variable.
15:38 schuster    (901,001) or something more complex that the dinngy blond librarian that I am wouldn't understand?
15:38 schuster    question for you debian guru's...  I'm playing with environmental variables - with apache - if I want 901 and 001 - it tells me to use a "regular expression or regex" so what would be my phrase?
15:35 hdl         kf thanks for report
15:32 munin       jwagner: nengard was last seen in #koha 1 week, 5 days, 22 hours, 51 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <nengard> I'm working with melanie on the problem i mentioned above
15:32 jwagner     @seen nengard
15:26 kf          hdl: not sure if you want/need to know
15:23 kf          hdl: some things seem to be broken in this install - manage suggestions, pdf printing and receiving orders
15:19 wizzyrea    schuster: I hate it when I typo in the apache config. I'm always like "hey! Dangit! Why isn't this working?!"
14:52 schuster    OK thanks colin found an error in my config
14:37 Colin       schuster: apache -S will show your virtual hosts or maybe point to the error
14:36 Colin       schuster: apache/httpd for non-debian distributions
14:36 schuster    debian - hmmm looks dead.  Now to figure out why ... phewy
14:36 collum      schuster: for most Linux distributions.
14:35 collum      schuster: ps -ef | grep apache
14:34 schuster    is there a quick way to test my apache webserver is running?  I just rebooted my "test" server and it hasn't come back to life.
14:31 hdl         yes
14:31 kf          hdl: so this is a yes? :)
14:31 hdl         it is a testing base
14:27 kf          hdl: is it ok to add/order books in this installation and perhaps try different AcqCreateItem settings (biblibre_head.git.biblibre.com)?
14:22 hdl         hi kf
14:21 kf          hdl: around?
14:14 jwagner     Good luck!
14:10 chris_n     hopefully coding will go faster this time since I'm supposed to know what I'm doing now... ;-)
14:09 chris_n     ...starting over now :-/
14:06 jwagner     Good morning chris_n -- hope you've recovered from the git episode....
14:03 chris_n     g'morning
13:16 Nate        morning jwagner
13:10 jwagner     Morning kf and Nate
13:00 Nate        good morning everyone
12:49 kf          hi jwagner
12:10 amadan      will try ma hands on it
12:10 Amit        heya ropuch
12:10 amadan      thanks Ropuch
12:09 Ropuch      And here you have description of upgrading process
12:08 Ropuch      http://lists.katipo.co.nz/public/koha/2009-July/019328.html
12:08 Ropuch      http://download.koha.org/koha-3.00.04_fixed.tar.gz
12:08 amadan      If so where can i get the 3.0.0.4 to download?
11:56 amadan      do i need to replace 3.0.0.2 with 3.0.0.4?
11:29 Ropuch      I remeber this from 3.00.2, but it's fixed in 3.00.4
11:29 Ropuch      It occurs while editing/adding an item?
11:06 amadan      can anybody please help
10:57 amadan      Koha error The following fatal error has occurred:Can't call method "append_fields" on an undefined value at /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8/MARC/File/SAX.pm line 92.     Apache Server version: Apache/2.2.8 (Ubuntu) Server built: Aug 18 2009 14:18:10    Koha 3.00.02.012  Koha DB 3.0002012  MySQL mysql Ver 14.12 Distrib 5.0.51a, for debian-linux-gnu (i486) using readline  5.2   OS Linux jupiter 2.6.24-25-server #1 SMP Tue Oct 20 08:12:40 UTC 2009  i686  Perl 5.00800
10:57 amadan      I get this error when i'm adding records
10:56 amadan      Good morning
09:56 |Lupin|     till soon
09:32 |Lupin|     hello there
09:30 kf          meeting now bbl
09:15 kf          paul_p: is there a way to look at the new acq? they have a lot of questions about acq and Im not sure what will change in 3.2
09:09 paul_p      kf: ok, that's great
09:08 kf          paul_p: after the presentation
09:08 kf          paul_p: had no time for xslt - koha presentation next week steals my time, but I hope next week
09:08 magnusenger hiya paul_p et al!
09:07 paul_p      (hi magnusenger & others too)
09:07 paul_p      hi kf, good morning to you
09:07 kf          hi paul_p
08:54 paul_p      hello all
08:45 zico        tht means... if i wants to select according to date.. like "added before"... or "added after".. it don`t work
08:44 zico        i cannot add files under date
08:44 munin       hdl: The operation succeeded.
08:44 hdl         @later tell chris_n email set free
08:43 hdl         hi all
08:43 zico        i m facing problem with barcode generation
08:43 zico        hi
08:39 kf          hi nicomo and chris
08:38 chris       hows things?
08:36 nicomo      hi chris
08:36 chris       hi nicomo
08:35 nicomo      hi all
08:35 chris       evening
08:28 imp         heyho
08:27 Ropuch      Hi Amit
08:27 kf          hi Amit
08:26 Amit        heya kf, ropuch, pual_p
08:10 Ropuch      Hm, if " is in the midlle of a title, it's ok, the problem is when the title starts with it
08:09 Ropuch      I'll report it
08:08 Ropuch      Jup
08:06 kf          hm sounds like a bug
08:06 Ropuch      Changing double into single quotes seems to solve the problem
08:05 Ropuch      I can't add biblios with double quotes in title to basket - i get "Title can't be empty" message
07:57 kf          guten Tag Ropuch :)
07:56 Ropuch      Guten Tag, kf [;
07:55 kf          morning #koha
07:13 Ropuch      Morning #koha
06:27 mahesh      hi
06:23 Amit        hi mahesh
06:03 * richard   makes a note of the topic
05:36 brendan     goodnight
04:14 chris_n2    g'night
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04:01 munin       chris_n2: The operation succeeded.
04:01 chris_n2    @later tell hdl please check the "jail" for the patches@ list and add my other email address to the list
03:33 brendan     hi amit
03:29 chris_n2    hi Amit
03:29 Amit        good morning #koha
03:28 Amit        heya brendan, richard, chris_n2
02:28 mahesh      sdfgbhjkl;[']=
01:11 brendan     cya in a bit #koha