Time Nick Message 01:11 brendan cya in a bit #koha 02:28 mahesh sdfgbhjkl;[']= 03:28 Amit heya brendan, richard, chris_n2 03:29 Amit good morning #koha 03:29 chris_n2 hi Amit 03:33 brendan hi amit 04:01 chris_n2 @later tell hdl please check the "jail" for the patches@ list and add my other email address to the list 04:01 munin chris_n2: The operation succeeded. 04:01 Amit @wunder New Dehli 04:01 munin Amit: The current temperature in New Orleans Lakefront, Louisiana is 12.0�C (9:53 PM CST on November 18, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.14 in 1021 hPa (Steady). 04:02 Amit @wunder New Delhi, India 04:02 munin Amit: The current temperature in New Delhi, India is 14.0�C (9:00 AM IST on November 19, 2009). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Rising). 04:02 Amit @wunder Bangalore, India 04:02 munin Amit: The current temperature in Bangalore, India is 21.0�C (8:30 AM IST on November 19, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. 04:02 Amit @wunder Dehradun, India 04:02 munin Amit: The current temperature in Dehradun, India is 10.0�C (5:30 AM IST on November 19, 2009). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1015 hPa. 04:03 brendan @wunder 93117 04:03 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 14.9�C (7:57 PM PST on November 18, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1013.8 hPa (Steady). Wind Advisory in effect until 9 am PST Thursday... 04:13 chris_n2 @wunder 28334 04:13 munin chris_n2: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 16.0�C (11:00 PM EST on November 18, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 30.14 in 1020 hPa (Steady). 04:14 chris_n2 g'night 05:36 brendan goodnight 06:03 * richard makes a note of the topic 06:23 Amit hi mahesh 06:27 mahesh hi 07:13 Ropuch Morning #koha 07:55 kf morning #koha 07:56 Ropuch Guten Tag, kf [; 07:57 kf guten Tag Ropuch :) 08:05 Ropuch I can't add biblios with double quotes in title to basket - i get "Title can't be empty" message 08:06 Ropuch Changing double into single quotes seems to solve the problem 08:06 kf hm sounds like a bug 08:08 Ropuch Jup 08:09 Ropuch I'll report it 08:10 Ropuch Hm, if " is in the midlle of a title, it's ok, the problem is when the title starts with it 08:26 Amit heya kf, ropuch, pual_p 08:27 kf hi Amit 08:27 Ropuch Hi Amit 08:28 imp heyho 08:35 chris evening 08:35 nicomo hi all 08:36 chris hi nicomo 08:36 nicomo hi chris 08:38 chris hows things? 08:39 kf hi nicomo and chris 08:43 zico hi 08:43 zico i m facing problem with barcode generation 08:43 hdl hi all 08:44 hdl @later tell chris_n email set free 08:44 munin hdl: The operation succeeded. 08:44 zico i cannot add files under date 08:45 zico tht means... if i wants to select according to date.. like "added before"... or "added after".. it don`t work 08:54 paul_p hello all 09:07 kf hi paul_p 09:07 paul_p hi kf, good morning to you 09:07 paul_p (hi magnusenger & others too) 09:08 magnusenger hiya paul_p et al! 09:08 kf paul_p: had no time for xslt - koha presentation next week steals my time, but I hope next week 09:08 kf paul_p: after the presentation 09:09 paul_p kf: ok, that's great 09:15 kf paul_p: is there a way to look at the new acq? they have a lot of questions about acq and Im not sure what will change in 3.2 09:30 kf meeting now bbl 09:32 |Lupin| hello there 09:56 |Lupin| till soon 10:56 amadan Good morning 10:57 amadan I get this error when i'm adding records 10:57 amadan Koha error The following fatal error has occurred:Can't call method "append_fields" on an undefined value at /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8/MARC/File/SAX.pm line 92. Apache Server version: Apache/2.2.8 (Ubuntu) Server built: Aug 18 2009 14:18:10 Koha 3.00.02.012 Koha DB 3.0002012 MySQL mysql Ver 14.12 Distrib 5.0.51a, for debian-linux-gnu (i486) using readline 5.2 OS Linux jupiter 2.6.24-25-server #1 SMP Tue Oct 20 08:12:40 UTC 2009 i686 Perl 5.00800 11:06 amadan can anybody please help 11:29 Ropuch It occurs while editing/adding an item? 11:29 Ropuch I remeber this from 3.00.2, but it's fixed in 3.00.4 11:56 amadan do i need to replace 3.0.0.2 with 3.0.0.4? 12:08 amadan If so where can i get the 3.0.0.4 to download? 12:08 Ropuch http://download.koha.org/koha-3.00.04_fixed.tar.gz 12:08 Ropuch http://lists.katipo.co.nz/public/koha/2009-July/019328.html 12:09 Ropuch And here you have description of upgrading process 12:10 amadan thanks Ropuch 12:10 Amit heya ropuch 12:10 amadan will try ma hands on it 12:49 kf hi jwagner 13:00 Nate good morning everyone 13:10 jwagner Morning kf and Nate 13:16 Nate morning jwagner 14:03 chris_n g'morning 14:06 jwagner Good morning chris_n -- hope you've recovered from the git episode.... 14:09 chris_n ...starting over now :-/ 14:10 chris_n hopefully coding will go faster this time since I'm supposed to know what I'm doing now... ;-) 14:14 jwagner Good luck! 14:21 kf hdl: around? 14:22 hdl hi kf 14:27 kf hdl: is it ok to add/order books in this installation and perhaps try different AcqCreateItem settings (biblibre_head.git.biblibre.com)? 14:31 hdl it is a testing base 14:31 kf hdl: so this is a yes? :) 14:31 hdl yes 14:34 schuster is there a quick way to test my apache webserver is running? I just rebooted my "test" server and it hasn't come back to life. 14:35 collum schuster: ps -ef | grep apache 14:36 collum schuster: for most Linux distributions. 14:36 schuster debian - hmmm looks dead. Now to figure out why ... phewy 14:36 Colin schuster: apache/httpd for non-debian distributions 14:37 Colin schuster: apache -S will show your virtual hosts or maybe point to the error 14:52 schuster OK thanks colin found an error in my config 15:19 wizzyrea schuster: I hate it when I typo in the apache config. I'm always like "hey! Dangit! Why isn't this working?!" 15:23 kf hdl: some things seem to be broken in this install - manage suggestions, pdf printing and receiving orders 15:26 kf hdl: not sure if you want/need to know 15:32 jwagner @seen nengard 15:32 munin jwagner: nengard was last seen in #koha 1 week, 5 days, 22 hours, 51 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <nengard> I'm working with melanie on the problem i mentioned above 15:35 hdl kf thanks for report 15:38 schuster question for you debian guru's... I'm playing with environmental variables - with apache - if I want 901 and 001 - it tells me to use a "regular expression or regex" so what would be my phrase? 15:38 schuster (901,001) or something more complex that the dinngy blond librarian that I am wouldn't understand? 15:39 schuster wizzyrea - yep me too.. I'm playing with the multi-pac setup to see if there is a way to get multiple locations and not just one with the branch: variable. 15:51 tomascohen anyone has any ideas on how to benchmark zebra performance? 15:51 tomascohen we want to compare its speed in a virtualized env with a dedicated server 16:03 wizzyrea jwagner: nengard is in rome, guess she's had epic trouble finding wifi in europe 16:10 jwagner wizzyrea, thanks. I'll catch up with her later. 16:11 jwagner wizzyrea, I added all those SQL reports to the wiki page like I promised :-) Hope they're useful to someone & that I didn't make any egregious errors in my SQL.... 16:25 wizzyrea jwagner: spectacular! 16:25 * wizzyrea goes to look 16:28 wizzyrea jwagner!! Those are GREAT! 16:28 jwagner Thanks :-) Some of my sites are very, er, SPECIFIC, about report needs. 16:30 * paul_p suggest to add a lot of reports directly during koha setup (with the parameters setup, it's really easy. Just put the SQL and a small .txt in the installer/data/mysql/en/optional directory) 16:34 wizzyrea paul_p do you have a demo where I can look at the parameters setup stuff? 16:34 jwagner paul_p, I've been thinking about that -- a lot of these reports are ones that I use on multiple sites. It would be a lot easier to run an installer than to recreate them each time. Figuring out which ones to include might be the hard part.... 16:34 paul_p kf: you're working on biblibre_head ? 16:38 wizzyrea paul_p are these the parameters settings you're talking about: This lets you specify SQL Parameters in any SQL reports you create. These take the form __PARAM_NAME__. If you define a parameter, it will be used by the system as a variable whenever you run the report. This should dramatically cut down on the number of individual reports you need to create, because you'll be able to 'fill in the blank' on the variable for similar reports prior to running the 16:43 schuster Like this idea! I wouldn't have to create 67 reports one for each school every time there was a new one! I could put it out there and then each school could put in their location or collection they wanted or etc... 16:46 wizzyrea schuster: we are talking about creating the reports and linking to them from a site external to koha 16:47 wizzyrea you still have to create them, but you avoid the epic list 16:47 jwagner schuster, you could do that now with a .sql file regardless of having it as an installer file. I've done a couple of direct .sql files (and screwed up a couple of others), but I try to leave that to the experts. But it can be done to insert one line into the saved_sql table. 16:47 jwagner schuster, sorry, I misread what you were wanting to do. 16:55 chris_n now that I'm back to where I was two days ago, I think I'll go find lunch :-P 16:55 jwagner There was a nifty presentation at the API After Hours session (Sirsi conference a couple of years ago) about a web interface to Sirsi data with setups for predefined reports. I think staff could enter some parameters but the overall structure was set up in advance. Something like that might be useful for Koha. 16:56 jwagner chris_n, I trust you SAVED your work :-) 16:56 chris_n hehe... 16:56 * wizzyrea hopes that chris_n double checked 16:57 * chris_n is scared to leave his office now... 16:57 jwagner Isn't that what laptops are for, so you can take your office with you???? 16:58 chris_n I think the only place I don't have a computer is in my car :-) 16:59 chris_n well... maybe the ECU counts for one in the car 16:59 jwagner chris_n, if you drive a car made in the last, say, 15 years, you have a computer there too. 16:59 wizzyrea garmin makes a thing you can plug into the diagnostic port and it will output data to your NUVI 17:00 wizzyrea output your car computer codes/performance/eco info to your nuvi, I should say 17:00 wizzyrea in real time 17:00 wizzyrea that is like, car nerd heaven 17:00 chris_n I have an interface I built so my laptop can speak with the car 17:00 chris_n real time 17:00 wizzyrea that is sweet too 17:01 wizzyrea i knew about the laptop deal, but I hadn't ever heard of it being integrated with a GPS 17:01 chris_n occasionally the car has something worth hearing 17:01 jwagner Harrumph. Sounds like something the Head of Inadvisably Applied Magic, er, Technology came up with.... 17:01 chris_n maybe the car can then give you exact coordinates as to where the problem is?? 17:02 wizzyrea lulz 17:02 wizzyrea I think it's mostly for eco/performance measures related to velocity 17:03 wizzyrea it just seemed very geeky and col 17:03 wizzyrea cool* 17:03 chris_n ie. I hurt at exactly 35 deg N, 78 deg W ;-) 17:03 davi hi 17:04 * chris_n really must go and get food 17:05 jwagner Happy hunting/gathering 17:06 pianohacker Good morning 17:06 jwagner Hi pianohacker 17:07 pianohacker Hi, jane 17:07 pianohacker How's it going? 17:07 jwagner Middlin' well. 17:07 jwagner You? 17:08 pianohacker Alright. Working on school 17:32 kf bye #koha 19:09 chris morning 19:10 sekjal morning, chris 19:10 chris heya sekjal, i voted for your talk :) 19:10 sekjal yay! thanks! 19:11 chris hmmm i hope lupin sees the messages i just let through to the mailing list 19:12 chris @later tell |Lupin| some is asking about braille on the koha mailing list, maybe you can help them 19:12 munin chris: The operation succeeded. 19:25 sekjal chris: at least for the moment, my Koha talk seems to be in the top 17... perhaps it'll make it after all 19:25 sekjal the Git one can be reduced to a lightning talk, probably, provided I have enough success with the file event APIs 19:25 chris w00t 19:28 jwagner Is this for Kohacon, or something else? Inquiring minds want to know :-) 19:29 sekjal Code4Lib 19:29 jwagner Ah. Dunno if we'll be going to that yet. Maybe. 19:32 sekjal its a good time 19:54 wizzyrea jwagner++ for those reports 19:54 wizzyrea jwagner++ 19:54 jwagner Double the karma? I'm overwhelmed :-) 19:57 jwagner @karma jwagner 19:57 munin jwagner: Karma for "jwagner" has been increased 12 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 12. 19:58 chris jwagner: ill do a CFP for kohacon probably about march 20:00 jwagner We still haven't broached the topic of going with our bosses :-) 20:00 wizzyrea I have, actually 20:00 jwagner No telling HOW that might play out. 20:00 chris ill probably be broaching it with them :) 20:00 wizzyrea I told him I was saving my pennies to go, and he said NEKLS could probably help out :) 20:01 sekjal my director is recommending I look into travel grants 20:04 joetho in NZ? 20:05 joetho if I asked about that, MY director would recommend I have my head examined 20:06 jwagner I was wishful-thinking a look at plane fares again today. Right now it looks to be much cheaper to fly to LA or San Francisco, stay overnight to ease my poor arthritic joints, THEN fly to NZ. A direct flight from the Washington area is hideously expensive and long, connecting in multiple places. 20:06 jwagner chris, do you have a feel for which US-West-Coast airport might have better connections and flights? 20:07 joetho <---wonders about taking a slow boat instead 20:07 chris SFO and LAX 20:07 chris have the 2 best 20:08 chris SFO is a far nicer airport 20:08 jwagner joetho, I've taken up cruising in the last couple of years -- I love traveling by ship. But it might take far longer & cost far more than I can afford. 20:08 chris airnz flies direct to both 20:08 jwagner Thanks chris, will keep that in mind. I have friends & family in San Francisco anyway, so that might tip the scales. 20:09 chris 3 years ago a i got a $999nz return flight to SFO 20:09 chris so 600$USD 20:10 chris every so often they got mental and offer cheap flights 20:10 jwagner Wow. That would be lovely, especially compared to the fares I saw today :-( 20:10 fredericd chris: When kohacon 2010 dates will be fixed? 20:11 chris in a month or so 20:11 chris its all just wrangling for the best price 20:11 chris as its a free conference, i dont wanna end up out of pocket 20:12 chris my wife would kill me 20:12 chris hehe 20:12 jwagner I'd suggest passing the hat first. It's a less permanent solution :-) 20:13 chris true 20:15 wizzyrea chris: I am STILL so thankful for that report editing feature you added at koha devcon 20:15 wizzyrea i'd be pulling out my hair today without it :D 20:15 wizzyrea chris++ 20:15 chris 3 day conference, 4 day hack fest 20:15 chris is the plan 20:15 chris i reckon we can come up with some kickarse stuff in 4 days 20:16 jwagner Maybe make Koha play the 12-string guitar? 20:16 * jwagner is getting silly, and it's not even Friday yet.... 20:16 sekjal a configurable interface between Koha and any branch's IP-networked coffee maker 20:18 wizzyrea sekjal: something could probably be worked up in CRON... 20:18 wizzyrea not sure how you'd tie it to koha though :) 20:18 jwagner wizzyrea, tie it to the branch's calendar days/hours! 20:18 wizzyrea jwagner: you should see the giant guitar sculpture at the Music Experience Museum in Seattle 20:19 wizzyrea it's got computers playing guitars 20:19 * wizzyrea goes to look for the pic.... 20:19 jwagner I saw that museum from the outside when I had a stopover in Seattle this summer, but didn't go in. 20:20 sekjal it's a neat space, but don't touch it; very sharp! 20:20 sekjal was in there for a concert once.... 20:22 sekjal when we were walking to the entrance, a friend of mine touched the side of building, and got cut on a bolt that was jutting out 20:22 wizzyrea it was neat, spud slept through it but we had fun 20:24 wizzyrea http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=325915&l=7105f61bb6&id=1078323327 20:24 wizzyrea I think that should work 20:29 jwagner Awwwwwww 20:38 cait hi #koha 20:38 wizzyrea hey cait 20:39 cait hi wizzyrea :) 20:39 wizzyrea jwagner++ I'm still learning from all of your reports. What a huge help. 20:39 jwagner hi cait 20:39 cait hi jwagner 20:39 jwagner Goodness, wizzyrea. jdavidb is going to be REALLY jealous! 20:39 wizzyrea it's like the sky opened up and delightful delicious knowledge is raining down 20:39 wizzyrea and choruses of angels are singing etc etc 20:39 jwagner Well, I learned a lot from the ones on the site already, & adapted some of them, so save some thanks for the other people. 20:42 wizzyrea I know... it's one of those things where the more styles of sql queries you see, the better your approaches get 20:56 jwagner G'night all 20:58 wizzyrea i love her. I could hug her. 20:59 wizzyrea I probably will the next time I see her. 22:06 schuster chris around? 22:07 chris yep 22:07 schuster Question about environmental variables in apache you any good with that? 22:07 chris yep 22:08 schuster Did you see my post on IRC earlier today? I am using the multi-branch setup outlined in the RFC so I have an environmental variable in apache for BRANCH:001 22:08 chris right 22:08 schuster Is there a way to tell it BRANCH:001 OR 901? 22:09 chris so to do 2 branches? 22:09 chris no 22:09 schuster not the answer I wanted... 22:09 schuster It talked about using regular expressions, but I don't understand that well enough ... drat 22:09 wizzyrea apache is a funny indian 22:09 chris you cant do that in apache 22:09 schuster sioux? 22:09 chris you could set 2 branches in the env variable 22:10 chris but the code needs to know what to with that 22:10 chris its not an apache problem 22:10 schuster phewy. 22:11 schuster so you would have 2 lines in the variables for BRANCHES - but I wonder what it would do ??? or/and them? 22:11 chris no 22:11 chris you would have something like 22:11 chris BRANCHES 001|901 22:12 chris and then something in the code to understand if it sees a | thats an and, or an or if you want it to be an or 22:12 schuster so is that a pipe? between the two? 22:12 chris its whatever you want 22:12 chris the point is you have to write the code to deal with it 22:12 schuster ah... 22:12 schuster something to sleep on ;) 22:12 schuster thanks for your help. 22:12 chris np 22:13 schuster Off to pickup the little one! 22:15 chris i wonder what rfc he was talking about 22:16 indradg chris, lol 22:17 chris whatever one it is, its still not an apache problem ;) 22:18 chris_n2 what is it that's hard to understand about "just don't run the script as root"? 22:19 chris apparently everything 22:20 wizzyrea lordy 22:20 indradg chris_n2, its looking for *the* "any key"... its tough! :P 22:21 chris_n2 last I knew you could setup other users in webmin... maybe an account linked to the koha unix user might be in order 22:23 chris_n2 @seen gmcharlt 22:23 munin chris_n2: gmcharlt was last seen in #koha 3 days, 6 hours, 23 minutes, and 46 seconds ago: <gmcharlt> yes, at that point it could be captured 22:25 wizzyrea he must be in school