Time  Nick         Message
01:05 * chris_n2   thinks it is a bit too quiet around here
02:03 chris_n2     @quote random
02:03 munin        chris_n2: Quote #3: "< bignose-work> the only constant in climate over the next several decades will be that the climate doesn't match what you just got used to." (added by chris at 01:55 AM, June 12, 2009)
03:08 brendan      @wunder 93117
03:08 munin        brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 18.9�C (8:03 PM PDT on October 25, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012.1 hPa (Rising).
04:16 Mehwish      Hi all
04:17 Mehwish      I am new to koha and linux
04:17 Mehwish      can any one tell me exact meaning of this command
04:17 Mehwish      perl Makefile.PL --prev-install-log /path/to/koha-install-log
04:17 Mehwish      I want to upgrade my Koha..
04:31 Mehwish      hello all
04:31 Mehwish      is there any one to help me writting a few commands..
04:47 Mehwish      Hi is there any onyone to help me..
06:51 Ropuch       Morning #koha
07:00 hdl_laptop   hi magnusenger Ropuch
07:01 magnusenger  hi hdl_laptop and the rest of #koha!
07:02 Ropuch       Hello [;
07:04 Ropuch       I've added button for uploading covers to addbiblio, although uploading is insecure for now
07:04 Ropuch       http://bagno.be/localcovers.html#button
07:16 chris        hi all
07:17 Ropuch       Hi chris
07:22 chris        hdl_laptop: do you have access to download.koha.org now?
07:24 hdl_laptop   chris : no.
07:24 hdl_laptop   But it is quite easy for them to download and make it available on download.koha.org
07:26 chris        yeah that is still unacceptable
07:26 chris        but i guess we have no choice
07:26 chris        i wonder if you want to ask them to remove the old 3.0.4 as people will be getting confused
07:27 hdl_laptop   Will do
07:27 chris        cool thanks
07:28 mib_xic744   I need some help regarding z39.50. can any body help me
07:28 chris        we won't know until you ask your question :)
07:30 mib_xic744   Im working on koha on window version but z39.50 cant function properly
07:30 chris        ahh on windows, i can't help im afraid
07:30 mib_xic744   why?
07:31 mib_xic744   is it because some of my ports r closed or another purpose?
07:31 chris        because i havent used windows for 12 years
07:31 Ropuch       [;
07:31 chris        so i have no idea, it could be anything
07:32 mib_xic744   could u tell me that new version of koha 3 can be best cmpaitable  on which version of linux
07:33 chris        i use debian, others use all sorts of different ones
07:33 chris        have you used linux much before?
07:33 mib_xic744   no before
07:34 mib_xic744   could u help me for downloading debian for x86
07:34 chris        maybe you should ask on the koha-win32 list about your problem
07:34 chris        if you havent used linux before, it will be hard for you to get koha going
07:35 mib_xic744   I have asked lot of times but most people suggest me to use latest version of koha on debian
07:35 chris        in that case, i suggest finding some guides about installing debian, then get used to linux, then try installing koha
07:36 mib_xic744   ok Im going official site of debain
07:38 chris        the other option is to try one of the vmware images
07:38 chris        (for learning about koha/linux)
07:38 mib_xic744   sorry Im not getting?
07:42 chris        http://contribs.koha.org/extensions.php?category=9
08:08 Ropuch       mib_xic744: try ubuntu/linux mint: easy start and lots of tutorials on ubuntu+koha
08:10 * chris      deletes his blog post about ben ide insulting maori people, ill just chalk it up to him being ignorant instead of malice
08:14 Ropuch       I had strange dream night: chris. you've been messaging me continuously saying the a working koha-live-cd is a must and all the translations must be finished by the end of the november
08:14 chris        hehe
08:14 chris        we have had quite a few working live-cd's
08:14 chris        the problem is keeping them up to date
08:15 Ropuch       My girlfriend must be right saying I shuold quit perl-digging and just play some Quake ;>
08:15 chris        hehe
08:16 Ropuch       I will speak about koha by the end of november on OS conference, maybe i can get some people to help me
08:16 chris        oh excellent :)
08:16 Ropuch       I'm sure there lot's of bored nerds out there
08:17 Ropuch       All i have to do i tel them: "I don't thin you can make a working koha live-cd" ;>
08:18 chris        the trick is, "I dont thnk you can keep a live cd up to date"
08:18 thd          paul_p: are you there?
08:18 paul_p       thd. Yep.
08:18 paul_p       Hello world
08:18 paul_p       (very early in NYC ;-) )
08:18 thd          hello paul_p
08:18 thd          very late :)
08:18 chris        thats what someone needs to do, to keep it up to date, (new releases)
08:19 thd          paul_p: what are the authorised values for statut?
08:19 chris        Ropuch: maybe if a few people in poland are workng on koha, i can get to visit sometime :)
08:19 paul_p       thd: in Unimarc, it's status iirc (but it doesn't matter, it's defined in the framework
08:20 thd          paul_p: which framework? where is the file?
08:21 Ropuch       chris: when "a few" hits 10 ;-)
08:21 paul_p       thd: I mean in the bibliographic framework (or I don't understand your question)
08:21 chris        :)
08:21 Ropuch       hi paul_p
08:24 thd          paul_p: Is there not an authorised_value list named statut as defined in the French UNIMARC framework for 995 $o which is what the framework sets for items.notforloan
08:24 thd          ?
08:34 thd          paul_p: In English we have in installer/data/mysql/en/optional/auth_val.sql the following authorised values in the value list NOT_LOAN for use with items.notforloan:
08:34 thd          INSERT INTO `authorised_values` (category, authorised_value, lib) ('NOT_LOAN','-1','Ordered');
08:34 thd          INSERT INTO `authorised_values` (category, authorised_value, lib) VALUES ('NOT_LOAN','0','');
08:34 thd          INSERT INTO `authorised_values` (category, authorised_value, lib) VALUES ('NOT_LOAN','1','Not For Loan');
08:34 thd          INSERT INTO `authorised_values` (category, authorised_value, lib) VALUES ('NOT_LOAN','2','Staff Collection');
08:34 thd          paul_p: What is similarly specified for items.notforloan for French?
08:36 thd          paul_p: I do not find authorised value lists committed for French but perhaps you could inform me of what values you use.
08:37 thd          hdl_laptop: Perhaps I have confused paul_p.  Do you understand my question above?
08:40 hdl_laptop   thd: those values would sound quite sensible, but users like to add others.
08:41 thd          hdl_laptop: do you not have a default set which you supply to your customers?
08:59 kf           good morning
09:00 Ropuch       Hello kf
09:01 kf           hello Ropuch
09:03 chris        hi kf
09:03 kf           hi chris
09:10 kf           restart
10:10 chris        hi nicomo
10:10 nicomo       hi chris
10:12 chris        made it back with no flight dramas?
10:20 chris_n2     g'morning
10:21 * chris      goes to sleep
10:23 chris_n2     g'night chris
12:16 Nate         Good Morning #koha
12:34 paul_p       Hello Nate
12:36 Nate         Hi
12:36 Nate         Paul
12:40 chris_n      howdy #koha
12:41 owen         Hello all
12:41 owen         nicomo back home again?
12:41 nicomo       hi owen
12:41 nicomo       yes I am
12:41 nicomo       just this morning
12:42 owen         I'm really glad you were able to visit us. It was great to meet you in person
12:44 nicomo       Glad I was there too, it's always nice to meet people in person
12:48 owen         Koha.org still says "Koha 3.0.3 Released" in the main body of the page :(
13:08 * chris_n    hates it when FF crashes....
13:09 chris_n      but loves the "Restore Previous Session" feature
13:23 owen         chris_n++ # for volunteering to be 3.2 Release Maintainer!
13:23 owen         I'm excited by the diversity of the volunteers
13:54 * chris_n    passes out virtual donuts to try to generate activity
13:55 * hdl_laptop takes one. And passes ggl donut by ;)
13:59 gmcharlt     ggl?
14:01 hdl_laptop   http://www.fastcompany.com/blog/chris-dannen/techwatch/google-donut-looking-tasty-google-io
14:16 hdl_laptop   hi gmcharlt
14:17 gmcharlt     hi hdl_laptop
14:19 Ropuch       Whatoyu suggest for resizing images in perl?
14:31 rhcl         perlmagick???
14:31 owen         Koha is already doing image processing for other things... patron images for instance.
14:34 Ropuch       owen: I've added an otion to have both local stored covers with Amazon/Goolge ones, also added 'Upload cover' button in addbiblio.pl
14:35 owen         Yes, Ropuch, I saw that in the IRC log
14:35 wizzyrea     ropuch: that's super swank :)
14:35 Ropuch       Now need something to handle the oversized images, guess I'll try perlmagiock then
14:39 magnusenger  doesn't Koha use GD?
14:42 hdl_laptop   magnusenger: yes for patrons
14:43 magnusenger  hdl_laptop, Ropuch: wouldn't it be good to use the same thing for patrons and covers?
14:44 Ropuch       magnusenger: sure it will, but i have much trouble understing and reusing koha code, it was easier for me to write something from scracth
14:44 Ropuch       *understanding
14:45 magnusenger  Ropuch: sure, i ws just wondering... ;-)
14:46 Ropuch       With my hello-world perl level it took me forever to pass isbn from addbilio.pl to .tmpl ;>
14:47 Ropuch       It would be more conveniant to store upload path & url in sysprefs too, but I was was in hurry
15:47 chris_n      Ropuch: the patron card creator will use PerlMagick so it will be a dep for 3.2
15:48 chris_n      patron image code will probably not be moved over in an effort to keep the PerlMagick mod as an optional dep
15:49 chris_n      there were quite a few protests to using ImageMagick for the patron images originally due to the bulkiness of the module
15:50 chris_n      I'd recommend using GD for the covers personally
15:59 brendan      @wunder 93117
15:59 munin        brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 14.7�C (8:54 AM PDT on October 26, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016.1 hPa (Rising).
16:23 brendan      bug 1993
16:23 munin        04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1993 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Task Scheduler Needs Re-write
16:25 wizzyrea     brendan : are you looking at that?
16:26 wizzyrea     as in, meaning to fix it?
16:27 brendan      looking first
16:27 brendan      :)
16:28 wizzyrea     hee
16:28 wizzyrea     it would be ever so helpful >.>
16:28 wizzyrea     <.<
16:29 chris_n      @wunder 28334
16:29 munin        chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 17.0�C (12:19 PM EDT on October 26, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.19 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
16:30 chris_n      brendan: It would be good to rewrite it in a platform agnostic fashion
16:30 kf           time to go home, already dark outside :( bye #koha :)
16:30 * chris_n    munches animal cookies and read the scroll back buffer
16:30 chris_n      bye kf
16:32 wizzyrea     mmm cookies
17:37 brendan      wb owen
17:49 chris        hmmm
17:50 owen         Hmmm?
17:51 paul_p       mmmm...
17:51 paul_p       mm..mm..mm..
17:51 brendan      hmmm...
17:51 brendan      I think there is an echo
17:51 paul_p       traveling the world :D
17:51 owen         Oh, I thought we were tuning up for a barbershop quartet
17:51 * paul_p     open the window to check...
17:55 chris        just reading the voting thread
17:55 chris        how can people take something so simple and complicate the hell out of it
17:55 chris        they must train that in library school :-)
17:55 chris_n      owen: lol
17:56 chris_n      seems pretty simple to me
17:56 hdl_laptop   hi chris.
17:57 * chris_n    checks to see if 1+1 still = 2
17:57 chris_n      or maybe 1+1 == 3... ?
17:58 owen         Did the poll register non-votes if I only ranked two choices for a particular question?
17:58 wizzyrea     the simplest thought, like the concept of the number one, is an elaborate logical underpinning. The brain has it's own language for testing the structure and consistency of the world.
17:58 wizzyrea     (not me, Carl Sagan said that.)
17:59 paul_p       imho, someone that ranked XXX as choice #5 means: XXX is my choice only if the 4th others one are impossible
17:59 chris        owen that will count as a non-vote for those part of the questions
18:00 chris        paul_p: thats how i look at it too
18:00 zico         hi
18:00 chris        owen: but i think the non-completed ones are ones that no one entered their name etc in at the end
18:00 paul_p       and someone answering : XXX for #1 and nothing for #2, #3 means = I want XXX and nothing else. Definetly
18:00 * chris_n    marvels a how hard it is to make a simple choice
18:00 chris        and thus should not be counted
18:00 wizzyrea     sigh. this shouldn't be that hard
18:00 * chris_n    agrees w/paul_p
18:00 chris        exactly
18:01 zico         i m facing n annoything problem... with BIBLIO record editing
18:01 zico         If we change/edit change any of our BIBLIO record then in Staff and OPAC, it displays two same item. If we delete one item then both the item  I tried to solve it by stopping zebraqueue and rebuild_zebra -b -a -r. But, the same things doesn`t changes.
18:01 zico         chris: hi
18:01 chris        anyway you slice it though, HLT wins short term, new foundation wins long term
18:01 paul_p       anyway, we just need to have ONE winner. Being 2nd or 3rd is useless (we won't have a vice-president-foundation :D )
18:02 chris_n      so... time to move forward
18:02 wizzyrea     "wins" I don't envy anybody who has to wrest the assets from Josh's hands
18:02 * chris      reads the raw data
18:03 chris        wizzyrea: its unlikely to be possible, but we have to try
18:03 wizzyrea     of course we do :)
18:03 chris        ah yes, the non completed votes have not entered in name or email address
18:03 zico         If we change/edit change any of our BIBLIO record then in Staff and OPAC, it displays two same item. If we delete one item then both the item  I tried to solve it by stopping zebraqueue and rebuild_zebra -b -a -r. But, the same things doesn`t changes.
18:04 chris        so shouldnt be counted
18:04 wizzyrea     hmm
18:06 chris        zico: does it have two rows in the items table in the db?
18:07 chris_n      zico: also running rebuild_zebra -b -a -r -v will give you more output to catch problems with
18:08 zico         ok
18:09 zico         chris_n: i will run that command there 2morrow
18:14 wizzyrea     bug 3417
18:14 munin        04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3417 minor, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Items with no checkouts report won't output to a file
18:15 wizzyrea     but 3455
18:15 wizzyrea     bug 3455
18:15 munin        04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3455 normal, P5, ---, jmf@liblime.com, NEW, Full 245 needs to display in Cart and Lists
18:15 wizzyrea     bug 3270
18:15 munin        04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3270 major, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Cancelling a hold request after transfer initiated orphans item
18:16 wizzyrea     bug 3288
18:16 munin        04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3288 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Transit prompt not immediately triggered after hold is canceled
18:17 wizzyrea     bug 3299
18:17 munin        04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3299 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, ASSIGNED, Sticky calendar renew date doesn't work
18:18 brendan      nice to have munin back
18:18 brendan      @wunder 93117
18:18 munin        brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 22.9�C (11:15 AM PDT on October 26, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016.1 hPa (Steady).
18:18 wizzyrea     bug 3203
18:18 munin        04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3203 normal, P5, ---, henridamien@koha-fr.org, NEW, Some Letters template variables are not available to certain notice types
18:19 wizzyrea     I missed him, he's a good friend
18:19 * chris_n    hands out bug spray
18:20 brendan      %100 deet is the way to handle this
18:21 wizzyrea     sorry I know I"m spammy
18:29 schuster     If we were to do some 20 - 30 minute web sessions on new features in 3.2 what would developers/users like to see?
18:30 pianohacker  hello
18:31 chris_n      howdy pianohacker
18:31 pianohacker  hi, chris_n
18:31 pianohacker  what are you up to?
18:31 schuster     Hey!  Played anything challenging lately besides PERL?  My 8 year old is playing piano, and my wife is about to give up on him.
18:39 chris        schuster: what do you mean, explaining the new features in the 3.2 release?
18:39 chris        schuster: and did you see i created a role i think you would be great at for the 3.4 release
18:40 brendan      chris almost call it -- "clearinghouse wrangler"
18:40 brendan      Manager of who's developing what
18:41 chris        brendan: bug wrangler is what its called and yes that is the role
18:42 brendan      :)
18:46 chris_n      pianohacker: warming up cold patron card code
18:47 pianohacker  oh my, have fun with that
18:47 pianohacker  schuster: I'm managing to play a few basic things one-handed :)
18:48 chris_n      schuster: my 3 year old is going to do violin shortly... 8-P
18:56 owen         chris_n: Voluntarily? ;)
18:57 Ropuch       ';>
18:57 chris_n      owen: we'll see how long it lasts ;-)
18:58 owen         If only my parents had started me on Perl when I was young enough...
18:58 Ropuch       hehehe
18:58 Ropuch       "Our 3 years Owen is going to start perl class soon"? ;>>
19:16 chris_n      lol
19:17 chris_n      owen: she actually loves to sing, mess with the piano, and listen to her brother play the violin... so it's sort of an experiment to see if the talent is there
19:22 richard      hi
19:26 Ropuch       Hi
19:42 rhcl         I think we outta shoot the zebra and get a giraffe.
19:43 chris        at work now
19:44 schuster     Sorry - meetings since I made the last post.
19:45 schuster     For example we had quite a discussion last thursday or Friday about the rfc in 3.2 for http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:development:rfcs3.2:rfc32_multiple_opac
19:46 schuster     We have it running so I could talk about how that is setup and it works in Plano.
19:46 schuster     wizzyrea might talk about how the holds works that they sponsored
19:46 chris        the first thing to find out is what you are running in Plano
19:46 chris        and is it all in git.koha.org
19:46 chris        and if so, then yep that would be awesome
19:46 schuster     I might talk about the overdues.pl development work we did and why.
19:47 chris        sounds good
19:47 schuster     Yes it is all in git.koha.org - gmcharlt made sure before he left.
19:47 chris        excellent, well done that man
19:47 schuster     yep
19:47 schuster     karma gmcharlt ++
19:47 chris        @karma gmcharlt
19:47 munin        chris: Karma for "gmcharlt" has been increased 57 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 57.
19:47 chris        gmchart++
19:47 schuster     ok thanks..
19:48 schuster     We have a webex type tool that our executive director gave me approval to use so people can share their desktop etc... - session can be recorded chat box etc.
19:49 chris        cool, iirc webex doesnt work with linux too well, so recording would be good
19:49 schuster     I also know the developers talked about doing some show me how type stuff and we could open it for.
19:49 schuster     Guess it might be a good idea to try the elluminate session with someone using a non windows platform to see how linux works with it.
19:50 schuster     It's a java type appl.
19:50 chris        when i was at liblime it was a windows only thing, maybe they have fixed it now
19:50 schuster     It can carry sound through it too so you don't have to call in.
19:57 chris        rhcl: that error has nothing to do with zebra
19:57 chris        Access denied for user 'koda'@'localhost' (using password: YES) at
19:57 chris        /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 666.
19:57 chris        whatever user you have set for koha to connect as, cant actually connect to the database
20:00 schuster     chris I just sent you an email.
20:00 chris        cool
20:00 chris        lets see if it works
20:01 schuster     it says it is totally platform independant. - http://www.elluminate.com/accessibility/index.jsp
20:01 chris        hmm chrome doesnt like it
20:02 chris        trying firefox
20:02 schuster     http://www.elluminate.com/accessibility  when I went to this website it checked to see if I had the ability to run it
20:02 chris        firefox is downloading a bunch of .jar files noe
20:04 chris        loading loading :)
20:04 schuster     You are half way around the world...
20:04 chris        its doing something now
20:05 schuster     I see you.
20:07 chris        yep that seems to work ok
20:10 schuster     neat...
20:11 schuster     So chris are you officially the 3.4 release manager?
20:11 chris        nope
20:12 chris        we will have to have a meeting and a vote and stuff, im just working on collecting nominations/proposals etc
20:12 schuster     Just found the roles page.
20:12 chris        so that ppl can do educated votes
20:12 chris        cool
20:13 chris        so we have at least one person volunteering for each, except bug wrangler ... and 2 for translation manager, i hope we get more volunteers
20:13 chris        ill probably email the list after the next meeting early next month
20:16 schuster     Ah...
20:17 schuster     Yes I see the bug rangler - I'm learning to use bugzilla more, but still need to figure out why it does some things ...
20:17 chris        its more a communications/project management than a technical role
20:17 chris        more pestering people to close bugs that patches have been sent for etc :)
20:18 schuster     Yep - you know me...  I try to communicate sometimes not the best inglesh (:))
20:18 chris        :-)
20:20 schuster     I see some RFC's already up there - do we comment right on the RFC or how does that work?
20:21 chris        thats exactly how you do it
20:30 schuster     so is the next development meeting Oct 29th or Nov 4th? - http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:events:meetings:irc_meetings:meetingnotes09oct07#summary
20:31 chris        both :)
20:31 chris        there is a foundation one on the 28th
20:31 chris        then a general one on the 4th
20:31 chris        (the general one is where we talk about 3.2, 3.0 and 3.4)
20:32 chris        the foundation one will be, ok so hlt won, what do we do now
20:32 schuster     OK thanks - on the wiki it talks about meeting notes - Nov 4th but the meeting is "scheduled" for Oct 29
20:34 chris        ill ask gmcharlt when i see him, and we should probably do a mail to the list reminding people
20:34 schuster     There isn't a time noted and that is always my problem! :)
20:34 gmcharlt     yeah, I"m not sure were October 29th came from, unless it was a foundation forming meeting
20:34 gmcharlt     November 4th (first Wednesday of the month) is the general meeting
20:35 schuster     Maybe it was just a copy paste typo.
20:38 chris_n      PDF::Reuse stinks >:-/
20:39 chris_n      of course it could be my perl that stinks ;-)
20:39 wizzyrea     chris_n I doubt it
20:40 chris        thats 2 emails this morning that chris_n have answered the same :)
20:41 chris_n      heh
20:41 chris_n      they say great minds get stuck in the same rut...
20:43 chris_n      chris: try perl -e 'print $PDF::Reuse::Util::font_widths{Courier};'
20:43 chris_n      and let me know what it says if you have a moment
20:44 chris        nothing
20:45 * chris_n    wonders what he is missing
20:45 chris_n      it "should" say '600'
20:53 chris_n      opps... namespace problems.... I guess
21:42 brendan      @wunder 93117
21:42 munin`       brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 25.6�C (2:40 PM PDT on October 26, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1013.8 hPa (Falling).  High wind watch in effect from Tuesday morning through Wednesday morning...
21:42 pianohacker  hmm, not bad
21:42 pianohacker  munin: weather 81212
21:42 pianohacker  @wunder 81212
21:43 munin`       pianohacker: The current temperature in Franklin Ave - Downtown, Canon City, Colorado is 11.5�C (3:40 PM MDT on October 26, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: -0.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1017.8 hPa (Falling).
21:46 brendan      heya pianohacker
21:50 pianohacker  hi brendan, how's it going?
21:50 brendan      hanging in there
21:56 owen         Hey, swank new site brendan!
21:56 brendan      thanks owen
21:57 brendan      @wunder Athens, Ohio
21:57 munin`       brendan: The current temperature in Ohio University, Athens, Ohio is 19.4�C (5:46 PM EDT on October 26, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1013.8 hPa (Steady).
21:57 brendan      not bad
21:58 owen         Nice fall weather. The kids are doing a downtown trick-or-treat this evening
21:58 * owen       is working instead :(
21:58 brendan      :(
21:58 owen         ...for a few more minutes at least :)
21:59 brendan      We have the same issues with halloween around here that you have
21:59 brendan      UCSB is the second largest undergrad party
21:59 brendan      all the roads around here get blocked off starting thursday
22:01 chris        ahhh
22:02 * chris      still has his halloween in athens tshirt
22:03 brendan      I attended one Halloween in Athens -- was a crazy time
22:05 owen         Okay, now it's quittin' time! See y'all later
22:58 brendan      bug 2532
22:58 munin`       04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2532 enhancement, P2, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Patron-requested holds limited to one item per bib.
23:16 brendan      @wunder 93117
23:16 munin`       brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 24.5�C (4:11 PM PDT on October 26, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa (Falling).  High wind watch in effect from Tuesday morning through Wednesday morning...
23:27 chris_n2     @wunder 28335
23:27 munin`       chris_n2: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 15.0�C (7:19 PM EDT on October 26, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 30.14 in 1020 hPa (Falling).
23:28 chris_n2     hi brendan
23:28 brendan      hi chris_n2
23:29 brendan      have you heard of anyone working on a batch/bulk delete
23:31 chris_n2     no
23:31 chris_n2     sounds useful
23:32 brendan      yeah me too
23:32 brendan      agreed
23:32 brendan      it could be and doesn't sound that crazy of a process to me either
23:32 * chris_n2   is plodding through the catalyst tutorial
23:32 brendan      have a link?
23:32 chris_n2     probably would not be hard to impliment
23:33 chris_n2     http://search.cpan.org/~hkclark/Catalyst-Manual-5.8001/lib/Catalyst/Manual/Tutorial.pod
23:33 chris_n2     I'm just about through ch 5 on authentication
23:34 * chris_n2   is liking catalyst very much atm
23:35 chris_n2     koha could greatly benefit from such a framework
23:53 chris        yep its in the long term plan
23:53 chris        first step, get in db abstraction and template toolkit
23:53 chris        then moving a module at a time to a framework