Time Nick Message
23:50 chris cool
23:50 pianohacker I'll bug jwagner, she's more up to speed on that enhancement's journey through the corporate pipes
23:48 chris maybe you might wanna update bug with that, so kf doesnt duplicate work
23:48 chris good news
23:38 pianohacker I think it should be coming soon
23:38 pianohacker I did work on displaying serials info for PTFS
23:37 pianohacker hmm
22:06 chris awesome
22:04 cait_laptop added a screenshot to the bug and going to bed now - got late :) good night #koha
22:03 cait_laptop gmcharlt: thx
22:01 cait_laptop ah ok
22:01 cait_laptop its marked as enhancement, but I think its more a bug, because its really a problem with serials and item level holds
22:01 gmcharlt any bug that has a status of NEW, not ASSIGNED, has not actually been specifically taken up by anybody
22:01 gmcharlt yep
22:01 cait_laptop its yours, can I take it? :)
22:00 munin` 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3380 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Serial enumeration / chronology should display in opac holds interface.
22:00 cait_laptop I just sent a patch for @bug 3380
22:00 gmcharlt cait_laptop: what's up?
22:00 cait_laptop gmcharlt: around?
21:43 chris INSTALL.debian-lenny refers to this file
21:43 chris install_misc/debian-lenny.packages also has the list of packages
21:42 chris yeah, INSTALL.debian-lenny is what you are after
21:42 chris :-)
21:42 jhaig Hmmm, no it isn't. It is http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=koha_3_install_guide_ubuntu_hardy Perhaps I should have looked at the koha tarball before launching straight into installing the OS :-)
21:41 chris is that the INSTALL.debian-lenny document?
21:41 jhaig Maybe I'll try it then, but my library isn't really that big.
21:40 chris cool
21:40 jhaig I have found it - the package name was idzebra-2.0, not idzebra as the document said.
21:34 chris its a pita to get going, but the search is lightyears ahead of nonzebra
21:34 chris i would heartily recommend zebra, even for tiny libraries
21:33 chris jhaig: why not?
20:58 jhaig For the record, idzebra doesn't appear to be in the standard lenny repositories, or in IndexData, so I assume it would be in backports. I'm not intending to install zebra anyway, though.
20:44 cait_laptop chris: thx, dont know what the mistake was, just redid what I had tried before.
20:40 jhaig Thanks.
20:40 chris jhaig: you shouldnt need backports with lenny
20:40 chris well done cait_laptop :)
20:39 Ropuch Bah, If any of you ever considered buying D-link dir-615 router, don't.
20:36 jhaig I think I'll disable backports for the moment, and see if I get problems later.
20:36 cait_laptop chris: here? found a bug for my problem and got enumchron displayed in opac :)
20:36 Ropuch I believe not, i'm just saying how it's look like when using testing like i do :)
20:34 jhaig But are you saying that 'testing' is needed?
20:33 jhaig I'm following http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=koha_3_install_guide_ubuntu_hardy which indicates you need backports. However, this is not the latest Ubuntu, so perhaps that is why backports are needed.
20:32 Ropuch Only added entry in testing sources.list i can see
20:32 Ropuch deb http://ftp.indexdata.dk/debian lenny main
20:30 jhaig And likewise, lenny-backports (instead of etch-backports)
20:29 jhaig I assume that in the ubuntu guide, I need all the obvious modifications (such as changing the IndexData repository path to include debian and lenny instead of ubuntu and hardy).
20:29 Ropuch hi richard
20:28 richard hi
20:28 jhaig That is one thing I was hoping for. My preference for a server is actually CentOS, but I would need to use CPAN, which would mess up the package management.
20:25 Ropuch s no need to install them from cpan
20:25 Ropuch So there
20:25 Ropuch afair all perl modules can be installed via apt
20:24 Ropuch Quite painless
20:24 Ropuch I've installed koha on debian testing recently
20:22 jhaig Thanks. I would have thought that, but I don't know how picky koha is regarding some of the package version numbers.
20:22 Ropuch It does
20:21 chris_n jhaig: ubuntu install should do for debian
20:17 chris_n for a minute
20:17 chris_n owen: back
20:15 jhaig I am trying koha for the first time (well, I was playing around with the VMware version yesterday). I'm starting to install it and I remember somewhere seeing that most people use Debian, so I thought that would be the best bet. However, the closest install guide I have found for version 3 is for Ubuntu (on http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php). Is this close enough, or is there a Debian install guide somewhere? Thanks.
19:56 chris ok, bus time, bb in 40 mins or so
19:56 cait_laptop first I have to redo what I did some days ago - accidently killed some of the changes I did
19:55 cait_laptop thx chris, this is a very kind offer :) - I will try a little longer to solve it on my own and will send you one when get stuck
19:54 chris send it to work chrisc@catalyst.net.nz
19:54 chris and ill have a look and tell ya whats up
19:54 chris if you want, you can send me a patch
19:54 chris i have to catch a bus soon
19:53 cait_laptop chris: yes... but I think I dont get the variable names right
19:53 schuster ;) my laptop bottomed out wireless..
19:53 chris that sounds about right cait_laptop :)
19:53 chris schuster: welcome back
19:52 cait_laptop chris: I think I dont understand really how the variables work. I think I have to add it to the array in opac-reserves.pl and add a column in opac-reserves.tmpl
19:52 schuster wb ???
19:51 chris cait_laptop: hmm, is it getting passed through by the script?
19:51 chris wb schuster
19:50 cait_laptop I think it should not be too difficult, but it seems I cant get it right
19:49 chris righto
19:49 cait_laptop chris: I have a new problem - we need items.enumchron shown in opac-reserves.tmpl for item level holds on bound volumes of journals and single issues
19:48 chris *nod*
19:47 cait_laptop I do that, but someone else might accidently translate and break something
19:47 chris either works :)
19:47 chris (or leave untranslated)
19:47 chris for the filenames just copy and submit
19:47 chris yep, we will clean it up
19:46 cait_laptop but its great that we can have a German xslt now - so dont misunderstand me. Im really like it :)
19:45 cait_laptop there are some things in the po that should better not get translated. I think I saw file names of images and paths
19:45 chris thanks to HDL
19:45 chris but it does mean you can run with XSLT on, and have it in german too
19:44 chris at least for 3.0.x .. soon for 3.2.x too, so there will be work there too
19:44 chris hehe yeah, we got the xsl being translated now too
19:44 Ropuch helo everybody
19:41 cait_laptop hi Ropuch
19:37 Ropuch ;>
19:33 cait_laptop you keep me busy with translation! :)
19:33 cait_laptop hi chris
19:32 chris back
19:31 cait_laptop hi jdavidb
19:31 jdavidb Hi cait_laptop. :)
19:29 owen chris_n?
19:29 cait_laptop hi #koha :)
19:21 * jdavidb mumbles, "30% chance of rain? bah! Nothing within 50 miles of here!"
19:21 * jdavidb glares at schuster, just for good measure.
19:21 schuster ;)
19:20 schuster schuster glares at boss and jdavidb and owen_
19:19 * jdavidb glares at owen and owen_
19:19 * owen_ glares at owen
19:12 chris wash the FUD off
19:12 * chris goes to have a shower
19:04 chris want a copy of my opensource SAS and um Oracle?
19:04 chris heya nicomo
19:03 nicomo hi chris
18:51 chris back again
18:07 chris_n bbiab
18:07 chris_n gotta go populate one of these and flush out the bugs
18:06 rhcl Don't know why anybody would want to do it, but those modded old firewalls essentially are/become generic computers that could run Koha.
18:05 rhcl I mess around some with old commercial firewalls, like the Firebox and VelociRaptor series--install HD/flash drives and opensource firewall software like Smoothwall et al.
18:04 chris_n in the end I could not get the resolution set correctly and had to move to a vbox install of xp
18:03 chris_n I did some of the work with pcbartist running under wine on ubuntu
18:03 chris_n rhcl: that is the only down-side; but it will run under wine
18:03 * chris_n found a web-browser written in assembler for a pic and thought of porting koha to assembler to run on it...
18:02 rhcl looks like pcb artist only runs on windows
18:01 chris_n the dimmer packs are getting pic based DMX controllers added next which will be controlled by open-source lighting software
18:00 chris_n the boards were fine, but that company was much more expensive and the layout software was cheesy
18:00 chris_n rhcl: the first project was a bunch of 2.4KW dimmer packs
17:59 chris_n and the price was excellent for qty 25
17:59 chris_n these look very nice
17:59 chris_n rhcl: this is the second board design I've done, but the first with Advanced Circuits
17:56 rhcl Interesting. Is this your first batch? How do they look?
17:55 chris_n I designed these with free software from http://www.4pcb.com (Advanced Circuits) who also manufactured them
17:54 chris_n rhcl: nothing as complex as a MB... yet ;-)
17:54 chris_n rhcl: these are basically an FM receiver which works with our "hearing impaired" system
17:53 rhcl I need a couple of Shuttle XPC motherboards, which Shuttle won't sell aftermarket.
17:52 rhcl chris_n, so uh, how exactly do you go about designing pc boards? motherboards? who does the fabrication?
17:47 * chris_n breaks into a shipment of pc boards he designed
17:41 chris_n and results in a hash ref being undefined
17:40 chris_n looks like GetItemInfosOf does not return any item data for a given bib
17:38 chris_n but maybe some corruption in an item record
17:37 chris_n maybe not
17:36 chris_n specifically 'itemnumber'
17:36 chris_n looking at that line it looks like it may be a data corruption problem
17:35 owen Lots of errors from XSLT.pm
17:35 owen Hmmm... looking at my error logs I see a bunch of stuff coming up from a regular search on the staff side
17:33 owen My About page reports the same: 3.01.00.061
17:33 * chris_n 's is version 3.01.00.061
17:33 chris_n which version are you running?
17:32 chris_n hmm... search works fine here
17:32 owen Yes: I tried a title search, a keyword search, and a date-limited search
17:31 chris_n ie click the 'Search' button?
17:31 chris_n owen: so the error is thrown when you perform the search?
17:31 chris_n owen: nope that was another issue with profiles
17:30 pianohacker bbl
17:30 * pianohacker goes to find pain meds and an orthopedist
17:29 pianohacker cya
17:29 * chris goes back to sleep
17:28 * chris_n looks
17:28 chris_n but it has not hit the main repo yet
17:28 chris_n owen: I think I forwarded a patch for that bug a couple of days ago
17:28 wizzyrea PH LOL
17:28 * jdavidb rolls his eyes at pianohacker, then realizes he'll need 'em for a meeting in a few.
17:28 owen Can't use an undefined value as a HASH reference at /home/oleonard/kohaclone/labels/label-item-search.pl line 129.
17:27 owen I'm trying to create a batch, clicking the "add items" button, doing a search for items to add...
17:27 * chris_n sneezes
17:27 pianohacker grind grind grind
17:27 chris_n owen: which one.... error that is
17:27 pianohacker I have an open source WoW. I call it a pepper mill
17:27 wizzyrea give me back my AP PoM Pyro!
17:27 owen Hi chris_n, I was just doing some template tweaks on the new labels branch and encountered an error
17:26 wizzyrea because that's really what I want
17:26 wizzyrea ooh, did you fix mages?!
17:26 chris_n lol
17:26 wizzyrea just funny :)
17:26 chris i rewrote WoW as opensource, its all on my hd, im not releasing it though, but it is open source, trust me
17:26 pianohacker hi owen
17:26 wizzyrea oh, it's not bothersome
17:26 * jdavidb chuckles.
17:26 chris_n hi owen
17:26 * owen is back
17:25 chris well that bit doesnt bother me, its the fact that it's being labelled open source, when it isnt.
17:24 chris heh
17:24 wizzyrea ^.^
17:24 wizzyrea carrier class data center.... you mean... amazon?
17:24 * chris_n wonders what is so hard to understand about the two words 'open' and 'source'?
17:22 chris sounds like a great idea
17:22 chris_n that will allow those who don't want the extra "bulk" of G::M to opt not to install it
17:22 chris_n I think I'm going to leave GD in place for the patron image stuff and just require G::M if one will be using the Patron Card Creator
17:20 chris awesome :)
17:20 chris_n chris: G::M is working great now
17:20 pianohacker One-way sharing is still sharing, right?
17:19 chris_n grrrr
17:19 magnusenger "The ability to share customizations and the flexibility that is offered by open-source software was a huge reason for us choosing Koha." Yay!
17:18 chris someone needs to tell pamela it isnt opensource until its released
17:17 chris_n hi chris
17:17 pianohacker hehe
17:17 chris http://www.librarytechnology.org/ltg-displaytext.pl?RC=14252 ... it begins
17:17 * chris_n tries to type without sounding too nasal
17:17 pianohacker ouch, I'm sorry
17:17 pianohacker fear my one-handed touch typing skills
17:17 chris_n pianohacker: been doing fine other than trying to get rid of a nasty cold
17:16 chris_n pianohacker must have scared nengard off ;-)
17:13 pianohacker right handed dvorak :)
17:13 nengard oh no!!
17:13 pianohacker broke two on left hand in bicycle accident
17:13 nengard and how will you type with a cast on??? hehe - I had surgery on my wrist while in college and the brace I had to wear made it nearly impossible to type
17:12 nengard what happened to your fingers pianohacker?
17:05 pianohacker How are you doing?
17:03 pianohacker heh, not yet. I go to see the orthopedist today, maybe get a cast
17:01 chris_n hey pianohacker... fingers healing?
16:59 pianohacker hi, chris_n
16:59 chris_n full of lunch and sleepy ;-)
16:59 chris_n owen: here now
16:44 munin` owen: chris_n was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 24 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: * chris_n is no JS guru though
16:44 owen @seen chris_n
16:42 kf time to leave work now :) bye #koha!
16:42 kf jwagner: just fighting a little with configuration right now, will ask on irc another time.
16:32 kf jwagner: do you have libraries charging fines and sending notices for it?
16:15 jwagner This particular site is a government research library. There are individual authors, but the agency itself is also an author. In the display, it looked like the agency name only applied to the second author (the period in between is almost invisible). So I was trying to set apart all the 110/710 fields from the personal author names.
16:13 magnusenger jwagner: sounds good to me
16:13 owen jwagner: I'm not entirely clear what you're doing, because I'm not paying close attention ;) ...but anything that improves clarity I would assume is general-interest
16:11 jwagner I'm working on a patch for a few other minor XSLT things -- would people like this included, or should I keep it local for this site?
16:10 jwagner So that a sample By line in the results list might look like by Scurlock, James D ; First 700 Name ; Second 700 Name . Corporate author: First 110 Name ; First 710 Name ; Second 710 Name .
16:08 jwagner Let's see if other people want the fix I just used it for. If you have multiple 110 and 710 fields (corporate author), and also 100/700 personal author, the OPAC results list can be confusing. I had a record with a 100, 700, and 710, and the display looked like the 710 only belonged to the second author (the 700) rather than being a separate author. I'm tucking in a text label of Corporate Author: before the first 110/710.
16:00 kf grats :)
15:58 jwagner magnusenger and others, the <xsl:when test="position()=1"> works to identify the first field. Yippee!
15:08 jwagner magnusenger, I'll give that a shot, thanks.
15:02 magnusenger jwagner: how about just <xsl:when test="position()=0"> or <xsl:when test="position()=1"> (not sure if they start counting at 0 or 1...)
15:00 jwagner I tried that & got a fatal error. I'll look at the other variations on that site, though. Thanks.
14:59 jwagner Hmm. That seems to be using <xsl:if test="position() = last()">
14:58 owen jwagner: Maybe this? http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2002/08/07/ducharme.html
14:57 kf perhaps wolfgang would know - but cant ask him right now
14:51 jwagner (in the case of multiple occurences of the field, that is)
14:51 jwagner XSLT question for people -- there's a check for when a field is last in line (to control ending punctuation): <xsl:when test="position()=last()"> -- is there any equivalent function to see if it's first in line? Changing last() to first() didn't work. Any ideas? The goal is to put some text/punctuation BEFORE a particular field.
14:20 * chris_n is no JS guru though
14:20 chris_n ie. what is inside the parenthesis
14:20 chris_n mason: I think you need to quote the parameters
14:18 mason thanx for help tho :)
14:18 mason anyhoo, it is late here - and wayyy too late for JS
14:17 mason var check = $("div[class='geo']").filter([textContent=geoVal]);
14:17 mason oops, this even..
14:17 mason s/but/by/
14:16 mason var check = $("div[class='geo']").filter([textContent=+geoVal+]);
14:16 mason but when i correct it, but removing the redundant quotes, like this - it barfs...
14:15 mason var check = $("div[class='geo']").filter("[textContent="+geoVal+"]");
14:15 mason oops, bad paste....
14:14 mason var foo = $("div[class='geo']").filter([textContent="+geoVal+"]);
14:14 mason so this clumsy looking thing works OK ...
14:13 mason hmm, my example seems to barf if i *dont* quote it :/
14:11 * chris_n thinks that if everyone just had somebody else's problems all problems would be solved
14:10 chris_n mason: you have an excuse.... its late where you are I think ;-)
14:09 chris_n in this respect it is unlike perl as perl would do fine with "div[class=$ddd]"
14:09 mason heh, i didnt even click to that, from the examples i was looking at
14:09 chris_n so by adding additional "" and concatenation operators, it now concatenates the literal value of $ddd into the string
14:08 chris_n mason: the "" around "div[class=ddd]" cause the JS parser to interpret all that is in between literally
13:59 mason which is what *seemed* to happen for me...
13:59 mason i have to ask.... how does wrapping concat operators around a string - make JS parse it as a $var
13:58 Ropuch I think it;s just a concatenate operator
13:57 mason sure, thats how i understood it too?!?
13:57 Ropuch It works like . in perl
13:57 Ropuch Nope
13:56 mason so - in JS ... a '+' either side of a +string+ , declares it as a variable?
13:55 Ropuch I don't know jquerry at all ;)
13:54 Ropuch hehehe
13:54 mason (the programing language that is, not the state-of-mind)
13:53 mason i reckon jquery is the modern equiv of brainf*ck
13:53 Ropuch Hi Nate
13:52 Ropuch ;>
13:52 mason stupid syntax for a stupid problem ;)
13:51 Nate hello all!
13:51 mason cheers, that works perfectly!
13:49 Ropuch mason: var myDivs = $("div[class="+ddd+"]");
13:44 mason seems like a stupid thing to be stuck on...
13:43 mason how to tell jquery 'ddd' is a $variable , not a "string"
13:42 mason this doesnt work as i want :/
13:41 mason .
13:41 mason var myDivs = $("div[class=ddd]");
13:41 mason var ddd = 'moo';
13:41 mason now, i want to replace the literal string 'moo' - with a variable-name, like this....
13:40 mason .
13:40 mason var myDivs = $("div[class='moo']");
13:40 mason this works just fine...
13:39 mason this one is impressively basic :/
13:39 mason another late night jquery Q for anyone?
13:09 schuster This is checkout - and by Patron.
13:08 schuster I type in schuster and it says "No patron matched 'schuster'" - on my system it has a NEW button.
13:07 schuster OK - but how does one "Add a borrower" - if we don't find one. I'm on hdl_laptop's test environment.
13:07 gmcharlt ok
13:07 nengard for the the non-ambitious option :) I just send you two patches - one that is the original and then one with the fixes
13:06 gmcharlt if you're ambitious, try using git rebase --interactive to squash the patches
13:06 gmcharlt nengard: easiest would be to resend the entire patch series: original patch + patches correcting it
13:05 schuster OOO - Love the filter when patron is selected to search...
13:04 hdl_laptop thx
13:02 nengard gmcharlt i have an issue - i only changed 2 of the files that were in my previous patch - so how do I recreate the entire patch for you? or should I just submit these 2 files and say they replace the other 2 I submitted before?
13:00 schuster OK thanks - but when an item is returned at lib1 if there is a hold for someone at lib2 it would force a transfer correct?
12:59 munin` 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3656 enhancement, P5, ---, henridamien@koha-fr.org, NEW, Specify fields to be omitted from the patron record
12:59 jwagner hdl_laptop, bug created -- Bug 3656
12:59 hdl_laptop Users from lib1 cannot put holds on lib2 and only 3 on lib4 but 10 on lib1
12:58 hdl_laptop limiting holds for a borrower on a location
12:57 schuster hdl_laptop - for circulation parameters or limiting holds to a location?
12:56 hdl_laptop henridamien@koha-fr.org
12:56 Colin Of course in the UK postcodes are a commercial secret and you have to pay big bucks to get a list (or download it from wikileaks)
12:56 jwagner hdl_laptop, what's the email address to assign the bug to you?
12:55 jwagner I thought I remembered something like that. But I like hdl_laptop's fix better than my proposed syspref only for Street Number.
12:55 hdl_laptop schuster: iirc this is the same thing as CircControlBranch applied to Reserves in order to check that it enforce reserve rules.
12:54 Colin jwagner: The separate steet number maybe because in many European countries the postcode can generate the whole address except the street number
12:54 nengard i'll fix it
12:54 nengard okey dokey gmcharlt - will do - i misunderstood what the bor_notes were supposed to be so my default makes no sense
12:54 jwagner hdl_laptop, I didn't file one on my Street Number question yet -- is that what you were asking?
12:54 gmcharlt send an email to the patches list accompanying the new patch
12:54 hdl_laptop jwagner: or is there one there already ?
12:53 jwagner Tell Galen :-)
12:53 nengard question to any experienced developers - if you want to withdraw a patch that hasn't been pushed and submit a new one - how do you do that??
12:53 jwagner nengard, yes that was quite a nice feature. The developer did a really good job on it. Best part is that it doesn't overwrite the existing circ & opac notes, so you can keep any long-term notes you need there. I've seen notes like "child has parent's permission to borrow video games" -- things that shouldn't get overwritten.
12:52 hdl_laptop if you want
12:52 jwagner hdl_laptop, you mean file a bug asking for the syspref on unused patron fields?
12:52 nengard :)
12:52 schuster Question - about - Biblibre - test site as noted in IRC. I am able to login - and went to Administration and see "ReservesControlBranch" but can't find any documentation on it - can anyone tell me what it is supposed to do?
12:52 nengard okay - i'm off to poke and prod and document
12:52 nengard awesome
12:51 jwagner Both notes will show on the patron checkout tab for staff. The notes directed to the patron will also show in the OPAC when the patron logs in.
12:51 nengard more than a note - in the sense of the patron notes
12:51 nengard a reminder
12:51 nengard so these are notes to be read to the patron or the staff when the patron is there in person
12:51 hdl_laptop jwagner: pls file a bug and assign that to me, I will send the patch asap
12:51 jwagner For staff, a canned note might be "Patron needs to bring in driver's license to verify ID"
12:51 nengard okay - well my default in the patch i just sent is no good :)
12:50 nengard Ahhhh
12:50 jwagner The classic one we've been using for testing for patrons is "You left your umbrella in the library"
12:50 nengard for some reason i was thinking these were notes on the patron record - not the patron checkout record
12:50 nengard so what's an example checkout note you might wnt to add?
12:50 nengard thank you
12:50 nengard jwagner OH!!!!
12:50 jwagner We spotted a problem on a few records -- if the patron didn't have any existing alerts (holds, fines, whatever), the Add a New Message link wasn't always showing. That's fixed in our test systems; we'll have to do a new patch for it when we get it final.
12:49 jwagner First create the BOR_NOTES authorized value category & some canned notes. Then, in patron record, go to Checkout tab and click Add a New Message. You can direct the message to the patron or other staff. You can select one of the canned notes or enter free-text.
12:48 nengard even with the authorized values set
12:48 nengard I want to document it, but I'm not seeing how to add them
12:48 nengard can you tell me how to use the custom borrower notes?
12:48 jwagner I'm here!
12:48 hdl_laptop Problem is that we should then have some screen to edit that.
12:48 nengard was hoping to find jwagner here :)
12:47 nengard hiya
12:47 chris_n hi nengard
12:47 jwagner Having a syspref to just list all the fields to NOT display would be really useful.
12:47 jwagner I have one site that does not collect ANY address info (govt site, privacy reasons). I ended up doing alternate templates for patron display/edit to strip out just about all the fields.
12:47 hdl_laptop But I could commit that.
12:47 hdl_laptop jwagner: No. This was a special request.
12:47 chris_n jwagner: or like cloths hangers
12:47 kf I think its a great idea, a list of fields you dont use similar to mandatory fields
12:46 hdl_laptop Or this would boil down to creating framewors for input data.
12:46 jwagner hdl_laptop, that would be a really useful syspref -- have you submitted it yet? Haven't seen it.
12:46 kf cant do without them, but perhaps organize them better?
12:46 kf I think the new editor will help
12:46 hdl_laptop I created a sys pref that would be used as BorrowerUnused fields in template generation.
12:46 jwagner Yes, those sysprefs breed like mice, don't they???
12:45 jwagner kf, I'm not talking about removing it from the table, just from the patron edit screen.
12:45 chris_n hehe
12:45 hdl_laptop YASP Yet another Syspref....
12:45 jwagner Would a syspref to turn street number on/off be useful for other sites?
12:45 kf but should street number not be available for all addresses in this case?
12:45 hdl_laptop could be.
12:44 jwagner I thought I remembered something about it being European.
12:43 hdl_laptop kf: jwagner this is i think owed to the french normalization of adress.
12:36 jwagner That's a thought.
12:35 kf I will use jquery from owen to hide fields in patron data that we will not use
12:35 kf cant speak for european librares in general, but we import street number together with the street
12:34 jwagner Can someone refresh my memory on the patron Street Number field? I seem to remember that the separate street number (as opposed to the address field) is used primarily in European libraries. Is that correct? One of my sites wants to hide street number so as to force staff to use address. I'm wondering if a syspref & patch to turn it on/off would be of general use.
12:32 * chris_n greets jwagner
12:32 jwagner Good morning, all.
11:57 jdavidb Mornin', chris_n
11:57 chris_n g'morning
11:50 |Lupin| bye everybody
10:56 hdl_laptop hi everybody in fact
10:56 hdl_laptop hi gm
10:25 |Lupin| gmcharlt: yeah, I think I can grep and check everything...
10:24 |Lupin| gmcharlt: I'll submit a patch that does so, then
10:24 gmcharlt misc/cronjobs/stats/monthly_circulation_statistics.pl is the only script activiely using it, although it's mentioned but commented out from opac/opac-search.pl
10:24 |Lupin| gmcharlt: ok !
10:24 gmcharlt remove it completely
10:23 |Lupin| gmcharlt: yes, for example... so what to do ? just fix the function or remove it completely ?
10:23 gmcharlt correct - don't use it, don't return it
10:23 |Lupin| gmcharlt: actually at the beginning I thought you meant not _return_ the counter, and then I realised you meant not using it at all, that was the misunderstanding I think.
10:23 gmcharlt for example
10:23 gmcharlt GetAuthorisedValues
10:22 |Lupin| gmcharlt: actually it was even suggested to completely remove this function because there are more general functions to fetch authorised values... that's why I wanted to know how you'd like this to be fixed...
10:21 gmcharlt yep
10:21 gmcharlt will also remove the unecessary test
10:21 |Lupin| gmcharlt: it should have a where category='CCODE' clause
10:21 gmcharlt SELECT * FROM authorised_values WHERE catagory = 'CCODE' ORDER BY authorized_value
10:21 |Lupin| gmcharlt: yeah the query is poorly written
10:20 |Lupin| gmcharlt: ah I got it. yeah if the function doesn't use a counter at all and just pushes onto the array it will work just fine.
10:20 gmcharlt but rewriting the query so that it's
10:20 gmcharlt ah, right
10:19 |Lupin| gmcharlt: yeah I certainly agree. What I'm saying is that there are two things: (1) the function returns an array and its size which is useless and (2) the return array contains an undefined cell because lines 295 and 296 of C4/Koha.pm appear in the wrong order.
10:18 gmcharlt remove the counter outright, and the problem goes away :)
10:16 |Lupin| gmcharlt: look at the code: the counter is incremented _before_ the value is stored, that's why the first position of the list is empty, even once you have removed the useless size...
10:16 gmcharlt but that's fine - getting the size of arrays in Perl is a cheap operation, and there's no need for API calls to return both an array (or arrayref) and a count
10:15 |Lupin| gmcharlt: it's not only that the problem
10:15 gmcharlt it means that users of GetCcodes would have to get the count (if they need) by looking at scalar(@results)
10:15 gmcharlt |Lupin|: remove the first return ($count) and just return the array
10:14 |Lupin| gmcharlt: I'm willing to fix this but I'm wondering how you'd like that to be done
10:13 |Lupin| gmcharlt: it returns an array containing undef at position 0
10:13 |Lupin| gmcharlt: there is a bug inthe GetCcodes function in C4/Koha.pl
10:13 |Lupin| gmcharlt: hi
10:07 gmcharlt hi |Lupin|
10:07 |Lupin| gmcharlt: around ?
10:01 |Lupin| guten morgen kf
10:01 |Lupin| guten morgen k
09:45 kf hi |Lupin|
09:44 |Lupin| hi there
07:50 kf hi Amit
07:48 Amit hi kf ;)
07:40 kf good morning #koha
07:33 Amit hi hdl
07:32 hdl_laptop hi all
07:19 Amit hi nahuel ;)
06:55 magnusenger hi chris
06:55 chris hi magnusenger
06:55 nicomo hi magnusenger
06:54 magnusenger hi everyone - nicomo: i'll send an e-mail your way shortly
06:45 chris hi Ropuch
06:44 Ropuch hi nicomo, chris
06:43 nicomo hello everyone
06:43 nicomo hi chris
06:43 chris hi nicomo
06:35 pianohacker good night
06:22 richard back again
05:58 Ropuch ;>
05:58 Ropuch Morning, everybody
05:56 brendan Night #koha -- have an excellent day, evening, whatever :)
04:19 chris :)
04:17 Amit chris: India No.1 in ICC Ranking
03:41 chris the latest news is i have to work on it more :) but it is looking like november
03:41 ebegin Hey chris, what are the latest news about the KohaCon 2010?
03:36 chris night
03:35 ebegin Good night!
03:35 ebegin hugo, slef is the one to look for here :)
03:35 hugo Goodnight
03:34 chris_n^2 g'night koha
03:34 hugo I'll keep working on this little mac and see what I can do - I've got 6 weeks to get it working
03:34 hugo well, thank you Chris and ebegin for your input
03:33 hugo funny - been using a computer for work since 1989. Some things take a while to get to... :D
03:33 chris ah :)
03:32 hugo hi - I was CGI079 - just installed a real IRC client
03:32 chris hi hugo
03:29 chris ditto
03:29 * ebegin likes Debian
03:25 chris heh, typing fail
03:24 chris 3/ws 38
03:24 CGI079 cool. Thanks. Now here's a though - I'd like to tough this out on OS X - but if I were to take an old box and install linux, is there a feeling that's its better to go with Debian, Ubuntu, or something else?
03:22 ebegin yep... at least on linux...
03:18 CGI079 OK to go with the 2.0.22 version?
03:18 ebegin That may be part of your problem... Maybe the doc was done before 2.0.0.0.1
03:18 CGI079 the file in the instructions I am following installs version 2.0.22 of idzebra - current version is 2.0.41
03:17 CGI079 might be a mis configured fink.info file.
03:17 CGI079 well, on a closer look, I see that the file ebegin was asking about libidzebra-2.0.0.0.1.dylib does not exist. libidzebra-2.0.0.dylib does. But missing the .0.1
03:12 Amit heya ebegin
03:12 ebegin Hey amit!
03:10 CGI079 and I read elsewhere that it was recommended not to use CPAN to update itself - sound familiar? A big deal?
03:09 CGI079 but the CPAN self update failed - due to some recursive dependencies (if that's the right phrase)
03:09 brendan hi amit
03:08 CGI079 and ran into this situation where CPAN kept telling me that it wasn't up to date, an update could be done easily, etc. etc.
03:08 CGI079 on an earlier attempt, I got to the CPAN section...
03:08 CGI079 I have one more question if I may...
03:08 chris np good luck
03:07 CGI079 thank you for listening - it helps to sort it out in my head!
03:06 chris yeah, not sure about that
03:05 CGI079 path
03:05 CGI079 or rather, if all the bits will be added to the parth
03:04 CGI079 It's not clear to me, if I install some components using Fink, and others using Darwin Ports, if the path will "know" where all the bits are...
03:04 CGI079 But perhaps, having failed with Fink 3 times now, that makes sense.
03:03 CGI079 yes, I saw that myself - but I was reluctant to go down the darwinports path, having instructions using Fink - they seem to be two different camps - put things in different places, etc.
03:02 Amit good morning #koha
03:02 Amit hi chris, brendan
03:01 chris i wonder if this is a better path?
03:01 chris http://zebra.darwinports.com/
03:01 CGI079 yes, it does exist
02:58 CGI079 I did drill down and see how much of tha path existed - let me check again
02:58 chris cool
02:58 CGI079 when I finally get this working I will be happy to add to that
02:58 CGI079 yes, it is :)
02:58 chris but fixing it would be great
02:58 chris thats way old and out of date
02:57 chris http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=osx&s[]=osx
02:57 ebegin /sw/src/fink.build/root-idzebra-2.0.41-1/sw/lib/libidzebra-2.0.0.0.1.dylib
02:57 ebegin does this file exists?
02:57 chris that would be great
02:57 CGI079 I'd love to get it to work and then rewrite those instructions I have, rewritten so that someone like me could follow them...
02:55 CGI079 but Mac OS X does't have a /usr/local/bin directory, and while I could of course create it, I felt that by then I'd be so far off the instructions I was following that it would be better to figure out why the Fink install was failing instead - since I only sorta kinda know what I'm doing.
02:53 CGI079 so I thought I'd build idzebra myself
02:53 CGI079 The /sw directory is because I'm using Fink
02:52 CGI079 I do - but I am guessing that it's specific to my install. The idzebra install fails with "mv: rename /sw/src/fink.build/root-idzebra-2.0.41-1/sw/lib/libidzebra-2.0.0.0.1.dylib to /sw/src/fink.build/root-idzebra-shlibs-2.0.41-1/sw/lib/libidzebra-2.0.0.0.1.dylib: No such file or directory"
02:51 ebegin Do you have any error message?
02:50 CGI079 :D
02:50 CGI079 And I didn't even know what floss stood for until I looked it up just now
02:49 chris yep
02:49 chris slef is who wrote that blog post, but it is about 3am for him
02:49 ebegin this doc was written by mj, right?
02:49 munin` chris: slef was last seen in #koha 1 day, 9 hours, 34 minutes, and 35 seconds ago: <slef> oic - should have guessed that
02:49 chris @seen slef
02:49 chris *nod* most of us use floss
02:48 CGI079 yes - they seem sort of rare in the Koha world so far.
02:48 * chris isnt a mac user sorry :(
02:48 CGI079 I am having a tough time with the idzebra install - using Fink... I wonder if anyone might be able to help?
02:47 CGI079 This is the third time I've tried this - trying to go slowly and get it right. A challenge.
02:46 CGI079 (it's been a long night!)
02:46 CGI079 :)
02:46 CGI079 sorry - that should be following instructions here: http://www.news.software.coop/how-to-install-koha-300-on-macos-x-105/13/
02:46 ebegin Those are nice instructions ;)
02:45 CGI079 Hello - I'm installing 3.00.03 on Mac OS X 10.5.8. I'm following the instructions here: http://koha.org/cgi-bin/irc.cgi
02:14 chris i havent seen that happen before
02:13 chris hmmm
02:13 ebegin sometime, I even have 3 instances
02:12 chris cool :)
02:12 * ebegin just spent 2 weeks in California and looooooved it!
02:12 chris weird
02:12 ebegin nop
02:12 chris you already have one running?
02:12 ebegin Chris: Canada is ok I guess :)
02:11 ebegin Does anyone know why I could have 2 instances of zebrasrv start when I'm calling /usr/share/koha/bin/koha-zebra-ctl.sh start?
02:11 chris good thanks, hows canada?
02:09 ebegin Hey! how are you all?
02:08 chris hiya ebegin
02:02 chris_n^2 lol :-)
02:01 brendan ah - you get the idea :)
02:01 brendan night chris_n62
02:01 chris_n^2 goodnight brendan
02:00 chris heh, night
02:00 brendan good evening chrises
01:59 brendan chris -- chris_n^2
01:40 * chris_n^2 hides under his desk
01:39 chris_n^2 http://www.graphicsmagick.org/perl.html#id13
01:39 chris_n^2 boy did I miss the call on G::M
01:32 chris wb brendan
01:17 chris heh
01:15 * chris_n^2 finds it interesting that "Cuisine" is at the top of the magazine list :-)
01:13 chris cool
01:12 chris_n^2 I did post to their list in case there is something I've missed
01:12 chris_n^2 hard to believe that such a nice package would lack that ability
01:12 chris_n^2 when reading from the fh that is
01:11 chris dang
01:11 chris_n^2 but opening a string as a file handle causes G::M to segfault
01:11 chris_n^2 it does read from file handles
01:11 chris ahhh
01:11 chris_n^2 chris: it appears that G::M cannot be coerced to read from strings rather than from files
01:09 chris for http://www.mags4gifts.co.nz/
01:08 chris yup
01:06 chris_n^2 chris: did you say someone there was using G::M?
00:02 pianohacker something must be wrong with the data collection, though
00:00 pianohacker holy cow