Time  Nick          Message
01:36 chris_n2-away google andriod & koha++
01:37 chris         :)
02:06 ricardo       Time to go to sleep... Take care everyone!  :)
02:15 ricardo       chris: Still there?
02:18 ricardo       Question to everyone/anyone... I know today (6 Sep) is / was the feature freeze for 3.2... And is there some freeze date already set for 3.0.4 (fixes)?
02:21 ricardo       Well... I guess all the other people ARE asleep, eheh... OK. I'll probably be back in 12 hours or so. Take care!
03:11 chris         @later tell ricardo 3.0.4 is a bugfix release ... permanent feature freeze :)
03:11 munin`        chris: The operation succeeded.
03:42 Amit          hi chris, brendan
03:42 Amit          good morning #koha
03:45 Amit          hi pianohacker
03:45 pianohacker   Good morning, chris
03:45 pianohacker   and amit
05:10 pianohacker   Hrm. A tad late
05:51 chris         evening
05:52 bob           hi chris: got a koha qu for you
05:52 chris         hi bob, whats that?
05:52 bob           in the koha i'm trying to set up i get urls like this
05:52 bob           eg /opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=65 | 65
05:53 bob           what's with the | bit?
05:53 chris         weird what version?
05:53 bob           3.00.02.012
05:54 chris         http://opac.koha.workbuffer.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=559
05:54 chris         i get versions like that
05:54 bob           that's what i'd expect to get too
05:54 chris         what page links you to the weird url?
05:54 bob           all of them
05:54 bob           sorry
05:54 chris         the search results?
05:55 bob           i mean search results have them
05:55 bob           yeah
05:55 chris         sounds like a bug in the template
05:55 chris         i dont think ive ever seen that though
05:56 bob           ah i didn't check the template
05:56 bob           me thought it was some wigginess from importing from v2
05:57 bob           it happens both on opac and intranet
05:57 chris         hmm 2 things to check then, the template
05:57 chris         and then the db
05:58 chris         to make sure the number isnt doubled up in it
05:58 chris         if it happens in both, id suspect the db
05:59 bob           you mean duplicate biblionumber?
05:59 chris         yeah check the marcxml column in biblioitems
05:59 chris         specifically teh 999 tag
06:00 chris         im wondering if the biblionumber is doubled up there
06:01 bob           ah i think my data is using 090 rather than 999
06:01 chris         999 c i think it is
06:01 chris         i wonder if that might be the problem
06:03 bob           when i imported the data from v2 and indexed it - search initially didn't work then i read about changing the zebra to index on 090 instead of 999 (from google)
06:03 bob           and that got the search working
06:04 chris         its not doubled up in the 090 is it?
06:04 bob           i'm just checking that now
06:06 bob           there does look to be 2   <datafield tag="090" ind1=" " ind2=" ">
06:06 bob           one with just a subfield code =d
06:06 bob           the other with both c and d
06:07 chris         ahh that would be doing it i bet
06:07 bob           i note the subfield code d values are different
06:08 bob           can you have more than one subfield code =d within the same <datafield></datafield> ?
06:09 chris         d is biblioitemnumber i thnk, c is biblionumber
06:09 chris         either way, it can only have 1 of each
06:09 bob           ah ok
06:09 chris         i suspect the one with 2 values (c and d) is the right one
06:10 bob           same - as the c and d match
06:10 * bob         just wondering what the other number matches
06:10 chris         and do they match the biblionumber and biblioitemnumber ?
06:11 chris         select biblionumber,biblioitemnumber,marcxml from biblioitems where biblionumber=65;
06:11 bob           ah no the biblio number matches but the biblioitemnumber is the other number
06:12 chris         ahhhh
06:13 chris         you might have to figure some way to clean those up, (maybe shift them to 999 too)
06:13 bob           do you know if anyone has written a script to do that?
06:14 chris         i think mason might have
06:14 chris         for kapiti
06:14 bob           ah cool, i'll email him and ask for advice
06:15 bob           thanks chris
06:15 chris         bribe him with coffee :)
06:15 * bob         has a much better idea of my problem now
06:16 hdl_laptop    bob is that XSLT related or template  ?
06:16 bob           he still the kohaaloha email?
06:16 chris         yep
06:20 bob           in changing the 090's to 999's is it safe to say the 090's can be removed or do both need to exist?
06:21 chris         you need to check you marc mappings in admin, and your zebra config
06:22 chris         but then you can remove the 090's
06:22 bob           cool, ta for you help
06:22 bob           it has been very informative
06:23 chris         np
06:29 chris         hi |Lupin|
06:32 chris         @quote random
06:32 munin`        chris: Quote #26: "<chris> as an aside C4::Search makes my brain hurt" (added by jdavidb at 09:21 PM, August 22, 2009)
06:35 |Lupin|       hi #koh
06:35 |Lupin|       hello chris
06:35 |Lupin|       chris: do you remember the conversation we had about using logs to keep track of who added /modified a record ?
06:38 chris         iyep
06:38 chris         hi nicomo
06:38 nicomo        hi chris hi all
06:41 |Lupin|       hi nicomo
06:41 |Lupin|       chris: I'm wondering how to deal with the initially bulkmarcimported records.
06:42 |Lupin|       chris: In our current system we know who has created a record and we'd like to import this information into KOha, too.
06:46 chris         just gotta feed and bathe kids
06:46 chris         back in a while
06:50 |Lupin|       chris: np
07:19 Amit          chris: in this URL is there any maintenance branch http://repo.or.cz/w/koha.git/
07:37 paul_p        Amit: (hello) look at the bottom of the page ("HEADS" section)
07:38 Amit          hi paul_p thanks
07:48 |Lupin|       grrr, deleting a borrower requires javascript...
07:48 Amit          hi lupin
07:49 |Lupin|       hi amit
07:55 chris         back
07:58 |Lupin|       chris: is it possible to delete borrowers cleanly without using the web interface ? Is it just a matter of moving the lines from the borrowers to the deletedborrowers table ?
08:02 chris         nope
08:02 chris         you need to check a lot of things
08:02 chris         the issues table
08:02 chris         and the reserves one too
08:02 chris         plus also accountlines
08:03 chris         or you might leave dangling issues, reserves and fines
08:11 |Lupin|       chris: ah ok... we don't have such things here. Just migrating atm so nothing happened.
08:11 chris         it would be best to write a script that calls the members/deletemem.pl
08:12 chris         ahh if you dont have any of that, then yes, thats safe
08:12 |Lupin|       chris: ah yes
08:12 |Lupin|       chris: the thing is we have bibliographic records bound to deleted users
08:12 |Lupin|       so we have to migrate these deleted users from the old system to the new one, too
08:13 |Lupin|       chris: did you see the question I asked you just before you left to take care of your children ?
08:14 chris         in order to do that with the log, you would have to edit bulkmarcimport
08:15 chris         so that it inserts the appropriate value in the log
08:25 |Lupin|       chris: do you think it would be a difficult thing to do ?
08:25 chris         lemme check something
08:25 |Lupin|       chris: thanks
08:26 chris         so it will depend on how it stored in the old system
08:29 chris         there are 2 ways you can do it, you can get the info out of the old system .. find the borrowernumber in the new system and use that as the user in action_logs
08:29 chris         or
08:29 chris         you can use a user called migration (or something like that)
08:29 chris         and then store the name of the person who created it in the info column
08:30 |Lupin|       chris: awesome
08:31 |Lupin|       chris: the first one should be doable. I have added tables in the Koha database that mapthe old identifiers (for users, books) to the new ones
08:31 chris         cool
08:31 |Lupin|       chris: yeah it proved to be useful so far
08:40 |Lupin|       chris: just in case you have some time
08:40 |Lupin|       chris: I think there is a small bug in misc/batchRebuildBiblioTables.pl
08:41 |Lupin|       chris: the -t option is not taken into account I believe
08:41 |Lupin|       chris: no time to fix this myself, I'm sorry
08:43 chris         true, it is just ignore
08:43 chris         d
08:44 |Lupin|       chris: yeah. I assume it is not the intended behaviour...
08:44 chris         localNEWmodbiblio($dbh,$record,$biblionumber,$frameworkcode) unless $test_parameter;
08:44 chris         it looks like it should work
08:46 |Lupin|       chris: yeah but I think this line is not even reached, because the test variable is not checked after getopt has ben called. Or am I wrong on that ?
08:47 chris         that is the line checks it
08:48 chris         so if its set, that unless will be true, so it wont change the db
08:48 chris         it should run, printing lots of things out, but not actually changing anything
08:50 |Lupin|       batchRebuildBiblioTables.pl:30: if ($version || (!$confirm)) {
08:50 chris         yes
08:51 chris         you need -c -t
08:51 |Lupin|       chris: so it means that if the script is ran with -t as its only argument, it will print the syntax and exit. Is that the intended behaviour ?
08:51 chris         yes
08:51 chris         you need -c -t
08:51 |Lupin|       chris: ah so -c is mandatory ?
08:52 chris         if you want it to do anything at all, then yep
08:52 chris         thats how it was written anyway
08:52 chris         its so someone doesnt accidentally run it
08:52 |Lupin|       I find it a bit odd actually. Is it to prevent people from runnig the script by accident ?
08:53 |Lupin|       yeah...
09:03 slef          hi all... does this sound fair:
09:03 slef          need to describe the Koha project's current structure (which is the subject of some disagreement between the pro-Kaitiaki and post-Kaitiaki developers).
09:04 chris         oh?
09:04 chris         i thought there was only 1 post-kaitiaki developer
09:07 chris         or should i say, former developer
09:09 slef          ok, so I'm being more than fair ;-)
09:10 chris         :)
09:18 slef          anyone know the URL to the Ohio KSF?
09:18 chris         hmm i was looking for it the other day
09:18 chris         i remember you and i found it
09:18 chris         but i cant remember where
09:19 chris         i found the Koha Foundation one instead :)
09:21 chris         http://activecause.com/nonprofit-profile/koha-foundation/id/383b3e39383d262525
09:24 chris         got it
09:24 chris         http://www2.sos.state.oh.us/pls/portal/PORTAL_BS.BS_QRY_BUS_INFORMATION1.SHOW_PARMS
09:24 chris         search for koha there
09:25 chris         http://www2.sos.state.oh.us/pls/portal/PORTAL_BS.BS_QRY_BUS_FILING_DET.SHOW?p_arg_names=charter_num&p_arg_values=1839255
09:25 chris         might work
09:27 slef          tyvm
09:29 slef          ok, think I'm overtime... http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=kohafoundation updated
09:30 chris         slef: imm a member of spi too
09:30 slef          chris: cool. You can edit the wiki too ;-)
09:30 chris         :)
09:30 chris         ill add that
09:31 slef          chris: which project did you join from (if any)?
09:31 |Lupin|       hmm
09:31 |Lupin|       is it possible in mysql to undo the last operation ?
09:32 paul_p        |Lupin|: if you have started a transaction and not commited it yes. Otherwise, no
09:33 chris         slef: none at moment, just a private member
09:34 chris         edited
09:37 |Lupin|       paul_p: ok, thanks :)
09:56 chris         hi cait_laptop
09:56 cait_laptop   hi chris
09:56 chris         added you to the history today :)
09:56 cait_laptop   just started reading my mails - no internet connection here
09:56 cait_laptop   thx :)
09:56 cait_laptop   but I think you have 2 96th commiters now
09:58 slef          I wondered about the wisdom of numbering them in the text.  Sorry for not mentioning it to chris
09:59 cait_laptop   but I m happy, I dreamed about the code tonight (I always do when I try to program)
09:59 cait_laptop   but it got accepted so perhaps I did not make all the mistakes I dreamt about :)
10:00 chris         thats only the 2nd mistake ive made
10:00 chris         and unless someome manages to go back in time and commit in the past, shouldnt be an issue :)
10:00 chris         ill fix it now
10:01 |Lupin|       paul_p, hdl_laptop, fredericd: unimarc question please
10:02 |Lupin|       In a few imported records there is a 410$a field (collection). This field does not appear in marc view, neither at OPAC nor in the staff client.
10:02 |Lupin|       any idea ?
10:02 chris         fixed
10:03 cait_laptop   thx chris :)
10:05 paul_p        |Lupin|: maybe you did not activate it (it may be unactive by default)
10:06 |Lupin|       paul_p: ah maybe... what do you mean by activate ?
10:06 |Lupin|       paul_p: do you mean in the cataloguing framework, or where ?
10:06 paul_p        |Lupin|: yep, in the cataloguing framework
10:07 |Lupin|       paul_p: ok, will check that, thanks
10:12 slef          what's the label enhancement bug number?  I'm failing to find it
10:14 cait_laptop   slef: never saw a bug number for label enhancement - perhaps there is none
10:15 slef          I'll stick it in bug 3583 then ;-)
10:15 munin`        04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3583 blocker, P5, ---, cnighswonger@foundations.edu, NEW, Patron Card Labels should print
10:18 chris_n2      who is Jonathan Sowash?
10:19 chris         liblime's lawyer
10:19 chris         reading up on the foundation?
10:19 * chris_n2    grimaces
10:19 chris_n2      yup
10:20 chris         yeah its not pretty
10:22 slef          list traffic or following links?
10:22 chris_n2      slef: a little of both
10:29 chris_n2      pianohacker++ #for the new syspref editor
10:36 davi          Where are the files which modify the Koha database schema
10:36 davi          ?
10:36 davi          I need to add some fields
10:48 slef          kohastructure.sql and updatedatabase.pl I think
10:48 slef          There is a page on http://wiki.koha.org about database revisions
10:56 davi          thanks
11:25 gmcharlt      good morning
11:29 nahuel        hi gmcharlt
11:32 cait_laptop   good morning gmcharlt
11:33 cait_laptop   gmcharlt: and thx for the welcome mail. Im really happy that my patch got accepted.
11:34 gmcharlt      cait_laptop: you're welecome
11:55 gmcharlt      slef: where on software.coop are the RFID:: modules?
12:01 |Lupin|       pls
12:01 |Lupin|       what should I do to activate a subfield in a cataloguing framework ?
12:01 |Lupin|       for the moment it is said the field is ignored,...
12:06 gmcharlt      |Lupin|: check the visibility setting
12:06 |Lupin|       gmcharlt: where is it ?
12:06 gmcharlt      in the framework subfield definition editor
12:07 |Lupin|       gmcharlt: does it correspond to the tab column of the marc_subfield_structure table ?
12:07 gmcharlt      |Lupin|: no
12:08 gmcharlt      tab = 0 - 9 corresponding to which MARC Yxx tag it is
12:08 gmcharlt      tab = -1 does suppress the subfield
12:10 |Lupin|       gmcharlt: I'm not sureI understand. Are you saying that if tab is between 0 and 9 then it contains the first digit of the tagsubfield column ?
12:10 |Lupin|       gmcharlt: I thought it was to tell koha on which page the field had to be displayed...
12:11 gmcharlt      |Lupin|: it says what tab in the editor to display the subfield
12:11 gmcharlt      and usually is set to the first digit of the tag
12:11 chris_n       g'morning all
12:12 |Lupin|       gmcharlt: ok
12:13 |Lupin|       gmcharlt: so which field shoudl I check in the db for the visibility ?
12:14 gmcharlt      marc_subfield_structure.hidden
12:16 |Lupin|       gmcharlt: it's 0 for the field in quesiton, so it means the field is hidden, or is not hidden ?
12:17 gmcharlt      for that, please read the help associated with the MARC framework editor - it's complicated
12:17 cait_laptop   bye #koha
12:21 |Lupin|       gmcharlt: I'm sorry, I can't see it with lynx... Is the help stored in some file in Koha, or in the database ?
12:22 gmcharlt      koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/help/admin/marc_subfields_structure.tmpl
12:22 |Lupin|       gmcharlt: thanks a lot !!
12:26 |Lupin|       I don't know what Collapsed means... could somebody explain, pls ?
12:33 Amit          hi galen
12:33 gmcharlt      hi Amit
12:34 gmcharlt      |Lupin|: not expanded by default - label shows, but form for entering subfield is not shown by default - user has to click to view it.  not relevant to lynx
12:37 |Lupin|       gmcharlt: here it's for other users I'm trying to have the field showed in a nice way.
12:41 |Lupin|       hmm hidden was 0, set it to -1 but nothing changes...
12:48 |Lupin|       could anybody help ?
13:13 |Lupin|       paul_p or fredericd: one of you knows in which unimarc field to put the collection titles, pls ?
13:19 slef          Question about http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:documentation:tutorials:installperldebian - don't you need "install" after "cpan" in the last one?
13:21 slef          answering myself: nope
13:21 slef          sole -i is optional
13:22 |Lupin|       slef: do you need a double check or is everything okay ?
13:23 slef          everything ok now
13:23 slef          I'm pretty sure dh-make-perl should be used instead of cpan when we can
13:26 slef          Does curl -I http://koha/cgi-bin/koha/errors/404.pl show "HTTP/1.1 200 OK" instead of 404 Not Found for other people?
13:27 |Lupin|       slef: the URL isnot valid...
13:28 |Lupin|       slef: ah you mean on an installed koha, oops, sorry
13:28 slef          |Lupin|: did you replace koha with your koha's server name?
13:28 slef          heh
13:28 |Lupin|       slef: HTTP/1.1 200 OK
13:29 slef          ok, it's not just me.  That's a bug, isn't it?  Looks to me like C4::Output::output_html_with_http_headers doesn't pass status codes.  Anyone reported this bug before?  I don't find it in a search.
13:31 |Lupin|       slef: don't know
13:32 slef          I'll wait to see other opinions for a few minutes while I deal with my immediate problem (I need to 503 Service Unavailable some pages)
13:33 |Lupin|       slef:
13:35 |Lupin|       slef: ok :)
13:37 slef          gmcharlt: chris: any opinion on this?
13:37 slef          or paul_p
13:38 paul_p        slef: don't know, sorry (and for technical questions, you'll probably have more luck with nahuel or hdl_childdoctor)
13:40 slef          I suspect hdl_childdoctor might not be there just now ;-)
13:44 nahuel        hi
14:01 slef          hi nahuel - should files in /errors/NNN.pl return the corresponding NNN status codes, do you think?
14:02 nahuel        yes they should
14:02 nahuel        and if it isn't, i think it's a bug
14:05 slef          ok I will file one RSN
14:17 |Lupin|       RSN ?
14:20 slef          http://foldoc.org/RSN
14:21 nahuel        héhé
14:22 slef          @dict RSN
14:22 munin`        slef: jargon, foldoc, and vera responded: foldoc: RSN {Real Soon Now}; jargon: RSN /R-S-N/ adj. See {Real Soon Now}; vera: RSN Real Soon Now (telecommunication-slang)
14:27 chris_n       gmcharlt: patch submitted to correct css issues in the labels code
14:31 |Lupin|       please folks
14:31 |Lupin|       when a patron does a simple search in the OPAC
14:31 |Lupin|       which fields are searched ? I assume this is customizable ? Is there a syspref for that ?
14:35 nahuel        |Lupin|, As I know, there is no syspref, it's zebra configuration
14:38 slef          Bug 3586 Submitted
14:38 munin`        04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3586 normal, P5, ---, joe.atzberger@liblime.com, NEW, errors pages are sent with HTTP 200 OK header
14:43 |Lupin|       nahuel: and in the case of nozebra systems ?
14:44 nahuel        |Lupin|, ah, no zebra is a black box for me :p
14:44 nahuel        never used it
14:48 |Lupin|       nahuel: ok, thanks
14:49 nahuel        |Lupin|, you should look at C4/Search.pm
14:49 |Lupin|       nahuel: ah yeah, good idea. Thanks a lot for the hint !
14:50 |Lupin|       enf of working day so this will have to wait till tomorrow...
14:50 |Lupin|       bye everybody !
14:58 nahuel        ++
14:59 slef          damn, these French people always seem to quit an hour early ;-)
15:27 pianohacker   Good morning, #koha
15:35 Kivutar       :)
15:35 nahuel        slef, !
15:36 nahuel        i'm not gone
15:36 nahuel        hey pianohacker !
15:36 pianohacker   Hi, nahuel
15:36 nahuel        what's up ?
15:36 pianohacker   Not much, school and work as always
15:41 slef          hehe
15:42 slef          don't you hate it when you finally get the network router login from the network manager and then discover that the router has changed IP address and no-one told you? (AFAICR)
15:42 slef          happily, /usr/sbin/arp to the rescue! :)))
15:43 nahuel        ^^
15:43 nahuel        Hopping this never arrive !
15:43 nahuel        happend
18:16 bigbrovar     .
18:16 pianohacker   cd ..
18:36 * chris_n     thinks some folks have been at the command prompt tooo long ;-)
18:36 pianohacker   Just trying to keep bigbrovar company
18:36 pianohacker   How are you, chris_n?
18:36 chris_n       trying to fix a programmer's nightmare
18:37 pianohacker   Koha has many examples of those. Can you be more specific? :)
18:37 chris_n       my catalogers begin manually entering barcodes and *figured out* the wrong pattern... 8-O
18:37 bigbrovar     hi guys been working on configuring koha for my schools library ( am not a librarian or in fact knowledgeable on library matters) am just a normal generic system admin.. am doing this because there just no one to do it . i have it up and running but its the cataloging part that am lost.
18:37 chris_n       thankfully it was only 12 items and not 1200
18:38 pianohacker   chris_n: Always good to catch data corruption issues
18:38 pianohacker   bigbrovar: Yes; unfortunately, all Koha cataloguing is done using MARC
18:38 bigbrovar     what i need now is to understand how this MARC thingie works .. a good guide would be appriciated
18:38 pianohacker   Gah, I'm too used to typing out the directory name that way
18:39 chris_n       bigbrovar: you might try http://www.loc.gov/marc/ for starters
18:39 bigbrovar     because it just keeps coming up and it something i would have to know ( oh there :pianohacker: u see what am saying :0)  )
18:39 pianohacker   bigbrovar: Did you set up Koha to use MARC21 or UNIMARC?
18:39 bigbrovar     MARC21 i
18:40 bigbrovar     yep MARC21
18:40 pianohacker   Then the LOC site is a good place to start
18:42 bigbrovar     chris_n: pianohacker:  thanks (its going to be a long night for me and a cup of coffee wont hurt)
19:38 chris         morning
19:39 pianohacker   Good morning, chris
19:39 nicomo        morning chris
19:39 hdl           hi chris
19:39 * chris       fights the temptation to reply to nick on the mailing list, and say "i wouldnt ever expect a response"
19:39 chris         its a hard fight
19:39 chris         hiya hdl :)
19:40 chris         i will try to get a few more cherry-picks done today, if you want to send me an updated list
19:41 nicomo        chris: imo Nick doesn't really expect a response
19:43 chris         yep, i didnt even bother
19:43 chris         requesting a listing
19:44 nicomo        maybe you should have, you know, just placing a stone here on the path saying: hey, I followed procedures, see?
19:44 hdl           I had no minutes to devote to cherry-picking today.
19:45 chris         nicomo: im exercising my passive resistance ala ghandi :)
19:45 hdl           My son Emmanuel had 3 medical interviews.
19:45 chris         s/ghandi/gandhi/
19:45 chris         oh no hdl .. i hope he is doing better?
19:45 nicomo        chris: as "Gandhi of the Beige Brigade"
19:46 chris         hehe
19:46 hdl           It was mere checkups, and simple stomachal problems.
19:46 chris         nicomo: ill send a request today, as you say, follow the procedures
19:46 hdl           But took all my time.
19:46 chris         hdl: ahhh that is good news :)
19:46 nicomo        chris: it's always sad to fell like you're just going through the motions, but well, that's how things are
19:47 nicomo        right now
19:47 nicomo        chris about my tweet: I sent an email point out the "error". We'll see
19:50 chris         :)
19:52 chris         ok time to catch my bus, good night to those who will be gone by the i get back online
19:52 pianohacker   See you soon
19:54 chris_n       pianohacker: nice work on the syspref editor
19:54 pianohacker   chris_n: Thanks
19:54 chris_n       order from chaos
19:56 pianohacker   Speaking of which, still needs translation suppor
19:56 pianohacker   *support
20:03 chris_n       time to head out
20:03 chris_n       ttyl
20:03 pianohacker   See ya
20:38 chris         back
20:44 gmcharlt      hdl: glad to hear it was just routine checkups (re your son)
20:46 hdl           Well he was early so he "deserves" peculiar attention from doctors ;)
20:48 chris         :)
20:48 chris         nicomo: sent my request to be listed
20:49 nicomo        hum... can you point me to an install you made?
20:49 chris         hehe
20:51 gmcharlt      chris: any windmills left standing in Wellington? ;)
20:51 chris         knocked em all down now :)
20:58 ricardo       Hi all!
20:58 chris         hiya ricardo
20:58 gmcharlt      hi ricardo
20:59 ricardo       Hi Galen / Hi Chris!  :)
20:59 ricardo       I'm updating now to the current HEAD of the 3.0.x branch... In the Web Installer step, after logging in, I'm getting this message (seems relatively benign, but I wanted to check it with you, anyway):
20:59 ricardo       [Mon Sep 7 20:57:30 2009] updatedatabase.pl: inside 3.00 at /root/ricardokohaclone/installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl line 1963.
21:00 gmcharlt      pretty sure that's entirely benign
21:00 chris         yep
21:00 chris         125 cherry-picks to go into
21:01 chris         http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha-maintenance.git;a=summary
21:01 ricardo       gmcharlt: Right... It seems the result of an "almost-unconditional"  warn instruction in the Perl code:
21:01 chris         and then that will get merged into 3.0.x and lots of testing then 3.0.4 ..
21:01 ricardo       Line 1962:
21:01 ricardo       if (C4::Context->preference("Version") =~/3\.00/) {
21:01 ricardo       Line 1963 (the "guilty" one):
21:01 ricardo       warn "inside 3.00";
21:03 gmcharlt      just a debug warn - nothiing serious
21:03 ricardo       But, because we're NOT using a "Centralized" Source Control Management System, I don't know if anybody else is already changing this file to comment that line, eheh
21:04 gmcharlt      well, I'd wait until chris & hdl finish cherry-picking, but you can always send a patch
21:04 chris         yeah id give us a day or 2
21:04 chris         and then if its still doing that, a patch would be appreciated
21:05 ricardo       Well... A side effect seems that it introduces a "loop" in the web installer (when clicking on the "Click to continue to log in to Koha" takes again to the "Step 3" of the Web Installer (the one that you must "update your database")...
21:05 ricardo       ... But, yeah, if you're "cherry picking" I can wait a few days, of course  :)
21:06 gmcharlt      ricardo: ah, you've just jumped the gun, it seems - better wait a couple days, as chris says
21:06 chris         its night time for hdl, so im taking over for the day
21:06 chris         http://git.workbuffer.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha.git;a=summary
21:06 chris         thats where im up to
21:07 hdl           ricardo: this was a useful hint for me.
21:07 chris         you can track progress there if you want
21:07 chris         (just picked a new one)
21:07 ricardo       hdl: Good night Henri!  :)
21:08 hdl           But i agree  it should be not displayed.
21:08 ricardo       hdl: of course, understood... The bigger problem seems that it's getting the web installer "stuck", at least in my setup
21:09 gmcharlt      the warning itself probably isn't doing it - I suspect just a missing SetVersion call somewhere
21:09 hdl           Well, still have some other stuff I work on to make.
21:09 hdl           ricardo: yes.
21:10 hdl           gmcharlt: is right. I realized that reconciliation Version missed a last SetVersion on the last updatedatabase
21:10 hdl           => loop
21:11 hdl           I updated that on my version. But maybe I forgot to push update on koha-maintenance/reconciliation
21:11 chris         its fixed now :)
21:11 chris         yeah, its not fixed in 3.0.x yet hdl
21:11 hdl           should be at least
21:11 ricardo       chris: Right... I'm pulling from the "regular" 3.0.x branch
21:11 chris         but it is in hte maintenance
21:11 chris         so it will be fixed in 3.0.x in a day or so when we merge over
21:12 ricardo       chris: OK
21:13 ricardo       gmcharlt: Regarding this question from "Savitra Sirohi" :
21:13 ricardo       [Koha-devel] problem git cloning maintenance branch over http
21:13 ricardo       http://lists.koha.org/pipermail/koha-devel/2009-September/010039.html
21:13 chris         well its actually a repo, not a branch
21:14 chris         otherwise could just get it from repo.or.cz
21:14 chris         unfortunately we cant change the git.koha.org set up
21:14 ricardo       gmcharlt: ... I clearly remember that you set up "Cloning over HTTP" following a request from me (thanks again!) a few months ago. So I'm finding strange that it's now giving problems to Savitra. Any ideas?
21:15 gmcharlt      there's a step that has to be done per repository, and at moment I don't have access to do anything about it
21:15 chris         yeah its the fact its a different repository
21:15 ricardo       gmcharlt: Ah! OK, understood. Thanks for the explanation
21:15 ricardo       chris: Right. Now, I get it
21:15 chris         ricardo: do you want to clone it over http?
21:16 ricardo       chris: I will, when I get to my workplace tomorrow (I have the same problem that "Savitra" has - there I am behind a "Big Bad Firewall")
21:16 chris         i can set repo.or.cz to mirror it
21:16 ricardo       chris: That would be much appreciated :)
21:17 chris         doing it now
21:17 ricardo       ... at least, while Galen doesn't get his "super powers" back
21:18 ricardo       On a related note:
21:18 ricardo       Three Doors Down - Kriptonite
21:18 ricardo       http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCJXcKEQ10I
21:18 ricardo       Here's to you Galen!  ;-)
21:19 chris         ok, mirror is starting
21:21 gmcharlt      lol
21:21 ricardo       gmcharlt: :)
21:30 ricardo       Back in a hour or so
21:50 chris         @later tell ricardo http://repo.or.cz/w/koha-maintenance.git
21:50 munin`        chris: The operation succeeded.
21:51 brendan       hey chirs
21:51 brendan       hey chris
21:51 hdl           gmcharlt: at the moment, it is not possible to udpate only the item part which is not linked to any subfields as far as i can tell.
21:51 chris         heya brendan
21:51 hdl           gmcharlt: ModItem(undef, $itemnumber, $biblionumber, $dbh, $fwkcode,
21:51 brendan       hello hdl and gmcharlt (I know you're lurking out there somewhere)
21:52 hdl           (v=>update, z=>otherupdate)
21:52 hdl           hi brendan howdy ?
21:52 hdl           )
21:52 pianohacker   Hi, hdl, brendan
21:52 brendan       heya pianohacker
21:52 hdl           I can cope with that.
21:53 brendan       getting ready to start some testing on your branch
22:03 pianohacker   reconciliation, or sysprefs_editor?
22:04 chris         hdl: i will send an updated email with the picks left to do before i finish work today
22:04 hdl           thanks.
22:05 hdl           Will continue thereafter
22:59 hdl           good night