Time Nick Message 11:58 gmcharlt to you as well 11:56 Amit and happy frndship day 11:56 Amit thanks galen\ 11:56 gmcharlt hi Amit - I should have a reworking of your patch for you to look at later (my) tonight 11:55 Amit hi galen 11:51 chris heh 11:36 sab tumi ekta chater bal 11:35 sab itz there 11:35 sab yep 11:33 gmcharlt do you have ServerName directives in your virtual host sections? 11:30 sab Restarting web server: apache2apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName failed! 11:30 sab the error is something like this 11:30 sab it shows fails 11:30 sab when i go 2 restart the apache server 11:30 sab the thing is... suddenly 11:29 sab those all were done in virtual host 11:29 sab it worked fine whole day long 11:29 sab one is koha1 & koha2 11:29 sab i hv been trying 2 establish 2 koha here in my one system 11:29 sab the thing is 11:29 sab i am facing a weired problem now 11:29 sab hey..wazzup? 11:27 gmcharlt sab: what's up? 11:25 sab hey there anyone can help me for one problem? 10:53 indradg_ :) 10:53 indradg_ yep, commoditizing koha 10:51 chris yep, very good deal :) 10:47 indradg_ chris, did you see the post on the koha m/l - offer of Koha installation @ US $ 75 + travelling expense from Vimal 10:42 indradg_ chris, hi 10:38 chris hi indradg_ 10:02 indradg_ hi all 08:24 Amit hi indradg_ 07:48 SelfishMan hi Amit 07:47 Amit hi selfishman 07:45 SelfishMan You need to have more than different databases and different apache configs. Your koha config files must be diferent as well. 07:45 SelfishMan Do you have different config files too? 07:37 Sab can nyone help me? i really need it badly 07:36 Sab but.. only i can log in there ( in both of them ) as "koha1" 07:36 Sab i cannot log in as "koha2" now 07:36 Sab but.. the problem is 07:36 Sab i hv also created two users for two database & as well as for trwo koha 07:36 Sab for first one... "koha1" database & for second one... means.. 81... "koha2" database 07:35 Sab & i hv also created two databases 4 two of them 07:35 Sab say... one is in 192.168.1.2:80 & another one is in 192.168.1.2:81 07:35 Sab i hv differentiate both of them by port numbers 07:35 Sab i hv created two kohas in my one system 07:34 Sab i am facing a weired problem today 07:34 Sab hi 07:32 paul_p interesting link (in french, but the inside links are in english) : http://www.08000linux.com/blogs/blog/2009/07/29/mysql-retour-sur-les-performances/ it's about mySQL 5.4 performances 07:30 kf good morning #koha 07:26 chris ahhh cool :) 07:25 paul_p the 1st week is finished. But next week, i'll leave again, for 2 weeks (and I leave my home, so => true vacation ;-) ) 07:24 paul_p hi chris. 07:23 chris vacation finished 07:23 chris hello paul_p :) 07:20 paul_p hello world ! 06:45 chris good morning europe 04:23 munin Amit: The current temperature in New Delhi, India is 32.0°C (9:30 AM IST on August 03, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 24.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Falling). 04:23 Amit @wunder New Delhi India 04:14 chris cool 04:13 munin chris: 3000 Indian rupees = 94.1715576 New Zealand dollars 04:13 chris @gcalc 3000 INR in NZD 04:13 munin chris: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything. 04:13 chris @gcalc 3000 INR as NZD 03:39 Amit hi mason good morning & and happy frndship day 03:38 mason hi amit, long time - no chat :) 03:38 mason bonjour peoples 03:26 brendan same to you :) 03:26 Amit chris, brendan happy frndship day 03:25 chris it was good, nice and relaxing 03:24 Amit how is your weekend chris 03:24 Amit yes 03:24 brendan I hope all is well with you 03:24 chris hi Amit 03:24 brendan heya Amit 03:24 Amit good morning #koha 03:24 Amit hi brendan, chris 03:20 chris heh 03:20 brendan 9 minutes and counting 00:26 brendan good evening #koha 22:08 cait going to bed now - good night :) 22:07 chris :) 22:06 cait should be in bed by now 22:06 cait where = were 22:06 cait there was a survey and many horizon/unicorn libraries considered evergreen or koha - free text entries where very interesting 21:58 chris rangitikei and opus were dynix classic 21:58 chris true 21:57 gmcharlt multiple sides, if you also count Dynix Classic and DRA classic 21:57 chris didnt know it was eating both sides of sirsi/dynix's sandwich at once 21:56 chris i knew we got lots of ex Horizon 21:56 chris cool 21:56 gmcharlt chris: several 21:55 chris has Koha gotten a unicorn library before now? 21:55 chris http://www.librarytechnology.org/ltg-displayarticle.pl?RC=14133 21:54 chris sounds like a plan 21:53 gmcharlt will probably drive at least some of the subsequent trips 21:53 gmcharlt no, flying up for my first trip 21:53 chris so you will drive up stay for the week, and drive back? 21:52 gmcharlt about 5 hours 21:52 chris how long is the drive to atlanta? 21:51 gmcharlt chris: pretty nice 21:51 chris hows the new car drive gmcharlt ? 21:37 cait hiya chris 21:37 chris hiya cait 21:00 chris *nod* 21:00 richard so i was mainly doing whole phrases and words 20:59 richard way cool., the stuff i did was from a spreadsheet on the waikato uni site - translations for ms office, ms windows, moodle and google 20:58 chris if you get stuck, probably can get my dad interested, he did the opac 20:58 chris the koha opac is now totally translated for koha 20:58 richard trying to get maori language commission and waikato uni interested 20:58 chris awesome 20:58 richard spent a happy afternoon starting on a translation of joomla into maori 20:57 chris good weekend? 20:57 richard hi galen 20:56 chris heya galen 20:45 gmcharlt hi chris, richard 20:45 richard hey chris 20:44 chris hi richard 20:35 richard hi 17:33 |Lupin| bye #koyha, too ! see you in three weeks if can't make t for the general IRC meeting ! 17:32 cait bye #koha, have a nice rest sunday! 17:29 |Lupin| :) 17:26 pianohacker Hello there, newly minted developer 17:26 |Lupin| hello pianohacker 17:15 |Lupin| phone call 17:13 cait but I think there are always exceptions 17:13 cait :) 17:12 |Lupin| like search and replace, she sometimes prefers to do them manually 17:12 |Lupin| and she is really reluctant to automate things 17:12 |Lupin| our librarian is almost 60 17:12 |Lupin| yep, maybe 17:11 cait I think younger people experiment more with programs 17:11 |Lupin| right 17:11 cait but this is not librarian specific I think 17:10 cait perhaps 17:07 |Lupin| cait: in your opion, does it also depend on how old the librarians are ? e.g. the younger may be more used to computers, something like that ? 17:06 |Lupin| like they need some time o get used to and realize what automaion can do for them ? 17:02 cait for this library its their first ILS, perhaps they will want it next year 17:01 cait but I dont think its general 17:01 cait some of them may be 16:58 |Lupin| cait: is it true that librarians are sometimes reluctant regarding automation of tasks ? 16:56 cait we talked about it and they said they wont need an automatic solution 16:55 cait ok, perhaps dont need it and they use different inv# prefixes 16:51 |Lupin| why ? 16:51 cait but our library dont want it g 16:50 cait I thought about adaption barcode plugin for generating inventory numbers 16:49 |Lupin| cait: never played with them, though 16:44 cait plugin was your idea! 16:44 |Lupin| cait: yeah ! if the person you are speaking to is great it helps even more :-) 16:39 cait sometimes it helps just to speak someone 16:38 |Lupin| cait: this quesiton was in me for some days already 16:38 |Lupin| cait: thanks a lot for having helped to find this solution ! 16:36 cait ok 16:34 |Lupin| cait: oh, not very important... those who really want to see i can look at te marc view 16:31 cait perhaps just try it - but dont know whats in the template there yet 16:31 cait but its marked as sponsored in bugzilla 16:31 cait its not there yet :( 16:30 |Lupin| it it's a problem then there is XSLT, thanks for having mentionned it, I was not aware of this possibility at the staff elvel 16:30 |Lupin| and as you said 16:30 |Lupin| perhaps not a problem 16:30 |Lupin| well... 16:29 |Lupin| ah 16:27 cait you cant configure outside of xslt what gets displayed in normal view 16:27 cait probably not in normal view 16:27 cait in MARC display 16:26 |Lupin| cait: (I thought the url ould be displayed both in OPAC and staff...?) 16:25 |Lupin| cait: wouldn-t that work without xslt ? 16:25 |Lupin| yeah the designers had a great idea when they designed it, I agree 16:25 cait and one xslt for staff is available you can also display it there 16:24 cait and when its in a marc21 field you can display it in opac 16:24 cait the plugin is a great idea 16:24 cait yes it should 16:24 |Lupin| shouldn't it ? 16:23 |Lupin| and say the field is a URL in the DB, and that shoudl work 16:23 |Lupin| so the only thig to do is to assign to a field a plugin that will fill it with the URL of the page or the user that is just creating the record 16:22 |Lupin| and each subfield can have a plugin associated to it, it's the value_builder field in the db 16:22 |Lupin| each subfield can be a URL 16:22 |Lupin| cait: see the marc_subfield_structure table 16:21 |Lupin| yep ! 16:19 |Lupin| just checking in the db whether it could work or not... 16:18 |Lupin| but actually I may fave found a solution 16:18 |Lupin| cait: because in the system used currently these links are present 16:18 |Lupin| cait: that was the one :) 16:18 cait didnt you plan to ask questions about data import? :) 16:17 cait sorry - no idea 16:16 cait ah 16:16 |Lupin| it works for the other tables because the biblionumber can be used to figure out which row to use 16:16 |Lupin| hmm last idea does not work cause koha won't know which row to pick up in borrowers table 16:14 |Lupin| cait: k 16:14 |Lupin| perhaps koha should be modified so that, in the KOha => Marc mappings, possibility is offered to pickup a field from the users table and not onl from the biblio, biblioitem and item tables 16:14 cait very marc21-ish 16:14 cait authorities dont looks really user friendly atm 16:13 |Lupin| which may also be an interesting functionalty 16:12 cait ok, link would lead to other record created by that author 16:12 |Lupin| cait: perhaps creating an authorised value for that and keeping it synchronised with borowers table would work ? 16:12 cait yes 16:11 |Lupin| cait: this sounds much clenaer than the modification of the template !! 16:11 |Lupin| ahah ! 16:11 cait but this would lead to an uathority record, not to the borrower record 16:11 |Lupin| cait: in the current system the links appears at OPAC, too, if this deserves the name of OPAC 16:11 cait you could have an authority for the creator 16:10 |Lupin| cait: thatwould be the minimumu, I'd say 16:10 cait the link is only for staff side? 16:10 |Lupin| cait: here we use Unimarc but the problem is roughly the same, probably. 16:09 |Lupin| cait: on possibilit is to alter the template slightly so that for one field it knows it has to look for that in the borrowers table, print borrower's name and make it a link to the details page for that borrower 16:09 cait dont know if MARC21 has fields for cataloger, but perhaps it has 16:08 cait not sure if I have an answer 16:08 |Lupin| cait: k, nice from you to think about these things on a sunday 16:07 cait thinking about your question 16:07 |Lupin| cait: np !! 16:07 cait was afk, watching tv 16:07 |Lupin| oh, was about to leave :) 16:07 cait hi 16:06 |Lupin| bbl 15:55 |Lupin| cait: any idea ? :) 15:53 |Lupin| to represent who has created a record, say, is it possible to store something in a MARC field that would cause Koha to dispaly a link to the user ? 15:52 |Lupin| has someone an idea how to link books to users ? 15:46 |Lupin| hi again, folks 13:43 cait ok, I will have to ask our format expert about that 13:40 gmcharlt yes, in context of my example 13:38 cait $a Castles $x $tone $z Germany is from title record? 13:36 |Lupin| bye everybody 13:35 cait I dont think I really understand that - not a cataloger ;) but I have some authority records here, let me look at them for a minute 13:34 cait huh 13:34 gmcharlt is authorized by which authority record 13:34 gmcharlt it's not clear to me how you make sure unambiguously which part of the bib heading 13:33 gmcharlt although $0 can be repeated 13:33 gmcharlt are each authorized free floating subdivions (e.g., in MARC21 would be represented as aut record with 18x) 13:33 gmcharlt and Stone and Gemany 13:33 gmcharlt suppose $a an authorized main heading 13:32 gmcharlt $a Castles $x $tone $z Germany 13:31 gmcharlt if a bib heading is like this 13:31 cait $0 is repeatable for different sources of authorities 13:31 gmcharlt cait: it goes something like this 13:31 cait (15:27:13) gmcharlt: as it doesn't handle case where multiple authorities (main heading + subdivision) are linked to one bib heading - do you have an example for that? 13:29 cait I dont see that we can adapt that easily 13:28 gmcharlt semantic web, RDF, and assigning URIs to everything 13:28 |Lupin| nope, sorry :) 13:28 cait linked data folks? 13:28 cait also for displaying 880 fields 13:27 gmcharlt hopefully the Linked Data folks will help save us there 13:27 cait and we will need to change xslt display 13:27 gmcharlt yeah 13:27 cait dont even started with that yet :( 13:27 cait what gives me headaches is linking between titles $w 13:27 cait I link the linking feature a lot 13:27 cait we copy them to $9 for import to koha 13:27 gmcharlt as it doesn't handle case where multiple authorities (main heading + subdivision) are linked to one bib heading 13:27 cait fighting with it atm 13:26 gmcharlt it is indeed, although I wish they had done a better job with the subfield $0 proposal 13:26 cait I think linking authority records by identity numbers is one of them 13:26 gmcharlt yeah, UKMARC did less well in that respect 13:26 gmcharlt what ends up happening as German cataloging starts using MARC21 is of particular interest 13:26 cait we got some changes into MARC21 by MARBI 13:25 gmcharlt also having observed how USMARC/MARC21 tends to *not* take up good ideas from the other MARC formats it absorbs 13:25 cait I think there are some special things about German cataloging 13:25 gmcharlt interested in ways of doing it better 13:25 gmcharlt after having spent years work to migrate good (and crappy!) records 13:24 gmcharlt general professional interest of mine, actually 13:24 cait why are you interested in cataloging formats? 13:23 gmcharlt no worries 13:23 cait to copy you a record 13:22 cait sorry, I cant log into union catalog cataloging interface from here 13:22 cait yes 13:22 gmcharlt ah, OK - still has catalogers thinking in terms of tag numbers and subfields 13:22 cait but im not an expert 13:21 cait its similar to marc21, four numbes, no indicators but subfields 13:21 gmcharlt right, but I'm curious how it compares as a data entry format 13:20 cait I think you wont need that outside of cataloging in union catalog - its not for data exchange 13:20 gmcharlt could you point me to an example of what a Pica format record looks like? 13:19 cait its goes back to card catalogs 13:19 cait yes, I think thats true 13:18 gmcharlt looks RAK (as cataloging code) fills same niche as AACR2 13:17 cait Im not a cataloger :( 13:15 cait I learned to catalog with RAK when in library school 13:14 cait alphabetic rules for cataloging 13:14 cait hm there is also RAK 13:13 cait for public libraries it might depend on their ils, I know most of them can import mab and they can buy mab records from their vendors 13:13 cait most academic libraries catalog to union catalogs, but I think some of them are mab inside 13:12 cait they enter records in pica format, they get records for their local systems in mab or in marc21, wich is new and I m still testing it 13:12 cait wich is pica 13:12 cait perhaps explain it for our union catalog 13:12 cait I m not sure if I can give you a qualified answer to that 13:11 cait let me think about it 13:09 gmcharlt is that correct? 13:09 gmcharlt cait: I'm curious, I understand that German catalogers don't typically enter cataloging records in a form that looks much like a MARC21 or MAB record 13:08 gmcharlt hi cait 13:08 cait hi galen 13:07 gmcharlt hi |Lupin| 12:33 |Lupin| hello