Time  Nick        Message
06:58 sab         and also can help others
06:58 sab         hoping i will get any future help
06:58 sab         i m now connected on FB
06:57 sab         chris thank u
06:52 sab         hi chris
06:48 chris       cool
06:46 sab         :-)
06:46 sab         chris i just join there
06:46 chris       threre is a linkedin.com group too
06:42 chris       http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=6381238597
06:41 chris       and
06:41 chris       http://www.facebook.com/pages/Koha-Integrated-Library-System/22629166763?ref=s
06:41 sab         I am waiting
06:41 sab         sure
06:41 chris       2 secs
06:41 chris       yes, there is page and a group
06:41 chris       and you, normally during the week there are more people on here
06:41 sab         is there any facebook group/pages for koha lovers and users & Developers
06:40 sab         nice to meet with u chris
06:39 sab         wow......home ground of koha
06:39 chris       new zealand
06:39 sab         u?
06:39 sab         I am from Bangladesh
06:39 sab         i will try that
06:38 sab         ok
06:38 chris       that way lots of people might be able to help
06:38 chris       the best place to ask is on the main koha mailing list
06:38 sab         so that i can ask help from u some times
06:38 sab         if u wouldnt mind can i get any contact no of u
06:37 sab         :-)
06:36 chris       no problem, good luck
06:36 sab         thank u so much chris
06:34 chris       http://www.myacpl.org/koha/?p=160
06:31 sab         if u know any can u please help me
06:31 sab         but cant DL any
06:31 sab         i tried it from koha.org
06:31 sab         ??
06:31 sab         can i get any tutorial for the customization of koha
06:31 sab         ok Thanx to u chris
06:30 chris       http://koha.org/documentation/manual/3.0/administration/global-system-preferences/opac
06:29 chris       you can change those in the system prefereces
06:29 sab         so i ask to many quistion ....as i m very novice on this
06:29 sab         so can u plz let me know the this specific thing that i can do on my installed koha
06:28 sab         name of li
06:28 sab         like the library logo
06:28 sab         i mean i would like to change the interface first
06:28 sab         but from the doc i couldnt get the idea that how i can customize koha as i want
06:27 sab         i went through
06:27 sab         thanx chris
06:27 chris       and http://koha.org/documentation/faq
06:26 chris       probably best to start at http://koha.org/documentation/manual/3.0
06:24 sab         I better mention that i have already installed it on my debian machine
06:23 sab         can any one help me to let me know that how i can customize my KOHA??
06:23 sab         i m very novice on koha
06:22 sab         just trying to use koha
06:22 sab         I am sab from Bangladesh
06:22 sab         Hi every one
22:02 hdl_laptop  chris: going to bed now.
21:43 chris       hi hdl_laptop, working weekend?
21:32 hdl_laptop  hi chris
20:27 chris       morning
17:03 pianohacker bye
17:03 eiro        cya all
17:02 eiro        this time is the good one
16:54 eiro        wow .. some more minutes :-)
16:53 pianohacker bye, thanks
16:52 eiro        cya all
16:51 eiro        http://www.tinybox.net/astuces/vim/edit-koha-code-vim
16:21 Nelson      got to run, thanks again.
16:20 Nelson      I'll be sure to make a copy of any file that I make edits to, though.  I'm probably at the stage where I don't know what I don't know.
16:18 thd         WinSCP seems to have a built in text editor so that you would not need to copy anything over to your MS Windows machiine to edit it.
16:17 Nelson      thanks again for the recommendations.  I'll save this conversation to guide my next steps with Koha.
16:16 thd         http://winscp.net
16:15 thd         owen said that he uses WinSCP
16:13 thd         You could also use what owen recommended which is probably easier.
16:13 thd         You could use MS Windows console command pscp which comes with PuTTY to copy the file from the SuSe system.
16:12 thd         Nelson: You would use Cream and/or GVIM on your MS Windows system.  You need to copy the file to your MS Windows system to edit it first.
16:07 Nelson      Would I use Cream and GVIM along with puTTY?
16:02 thd         Nelson: there are versions of Sobell's book tailored to specific GNU/Linux distributions but I do not see one for SuSe or Novell GNU/Linux.
15:57 thd         VIM is vi improved.
15:56 thd         There is a package for MS Windows which includes both Cream and GVIM.
15:56 thd         http://cream.sourceforge.net/download.html
15:55 thd         Nelson:  There is a good packaging of GVIM for MS Windows along with a more familiar editor style in Cream
15:55 Nelson      thanks very much, I'll try to find a copy of this
15:47 thd         I recommend thorough books by the following author for learning Unix commands.  A practical guide to Linux commands, Editors, and Shell programming / Mark G. Sobell.
15:45 thd         Nelson: SFTP provides security
15:44 thd         Nelson: FTP uses plain text passwords which could be intercepted
15:44 owen        (or whatever secure protocol you prefer, just not FTP)
15:44 thd         hello eiro
15:44 owen        SFTP being recommended, of course. I use WinSCP when I'm on Windows
15:43 thd         some FTP client programs also support SSH which may be better
15:42 thd         Nelson: yes you could copy back and forth with FTP or SFTP if the server has that access.
15:40 eiro        hello guys
15:40 eiro        http://www.tinybox.net/content/put-regexes-module
15:38 Nelson      I've forgotten most of the commands, but am willing to re-learn at this point.  Are ABS files a kind of text file?  eg. could I ftp/copy record.abs to my laptop, open and edit it, then ftp/copy it back to the server?
15:37 thd         Nelson: do you know MSDOS commands?
15:36 thd         you could also copy files back and forth with the PuTTY command pscp executed from the command prompt on your MS Windows machine.
15:36 Nelson      I've set up putty, and have been able to access our server in NJ using ssh.  My challenge is knowing what to do once I've logged in!
15:35 thd         PuTTY provides ssh to allow you to work directly on the remote machine using commands
15:34 thd         In either case PuTTY is helpful
15:33 thd         To manipulate the files on the remote server you need to access them directly or copy them back and forth between your computer and the remote computer.
15:31 thd         Nelson: you can also add invent something for use in Bib-1 "The following (5000-10,000) reserves a block of values for private usage; they will never be assigned by the Z39.50 Maintenance Agency. Implementors may use these however they choose, they are not intended for interoperability -- different implementors may define them differently, and assignments of these values need not be reported to the Z39.50 Maintenance Agency."
15:29 Nelson      Microsoft Windows utilities to install on my laptop, to enable me to manipulate the koha backend, which is installed on a Suse server in New Jersey.
15:27 thd         Are you looking for Microsoft Windows based programs or Unix X Windons based programs?
15:27 Nelson      re the bib-1 standard.  I think we want to add 500, 505, 773 for addititional subject/author/title entries.
15:26 Nelson      I've had a little experience with vi, and DOS.  RE the text editor, I use a WinXP laptop to access a linux server for our Koha installation.  So, I'm looking for windows-based utilities.  Would mc work in this case?
15:26 thd         s/based on/modeled after/
15:25 thd         Nelson: mc , Midnight Commander may be helpful.  It is based on nc , Norton Commander, for MSDOS.
15:23 thd         Nelson you should learn Unix commands.  If you are familiar with MSDOS commands, you may recognise that MSDOS commands are much like Unix commands except backwards.
15:20 thd         Nelson: the Bib-1 standard:  http://www.loc.gov/z3950/agency/defns/bib1.html
15:20 thd         Any text editor which is not a word processing editor with autocorrect features turned on should work.
15:18 thd         there are certainly GUI text editors.  I use GVIM but it is a line based programming editor in which mode based control may be confusing at first.
15:14 Nelson      Is there a gui text editor for the Suse server that maybe I could use?
15:13 Nelson      Do I need to learn putty and linux commands first?
15:13 Nelson      I'm afraid I don't know how to access this file.  Never worked w/ ABS files before, know very little about linux...
15:12 hdl_laptop  with the appropriate bib1 index
15:12 hdl_laptop  you just have to add it to record.abs
15:11 Nelson      thanks, I'll phrase a queston
15:11 hdl_laptop  mmm... No problem for me.
15:11 hdl_laptop  if you want to ask.
15:11 Nelson      hdl_laptop: re zebra, I want to add some additional tags to the indexing for basic Keyword Search, eg. 505 and 773
15:11 hdl_laptop  Nelson: I am here for a little while.
15:11 thd         Nelson: In what context are 505 and 773 not appearing?
15:09 Nelson      thd: by the GUI, I mean what I see when I log in as a super librarian with full administrative priviledges.
15:08 owen        hdl_laptop: To ask about Zebra questions (since I don't know the answers)
15:08 hdl_laptop  to try what ?
15:07 thd         Nelson: what do you mean by 'the GUI'
15:07 owen        gmcharlt, hdl_laptop, and chris would all be people to try
15:06 Nelson      Do you know of specific folks  who work with Zebra on this irc, so that I can keep an eye out for them?
15:02 Nelson      I need to explore this some more, thanks.
15:01 owen        Between those two you should be able to get much (if not all) of what you need
15:00 owen        Koha has its "pre-built" reports, and the Guided Reports tool for doing your own custom reports
14:59 Nelson      As opposed to the gui ad hoc reporting features?
14:59 owen        Re: MarcEdit to Excel, MARC just isn't the right kind of data to put right into Excel.
14:58 owen        If you want to be able to run quick queries from the command line, I'd recommend using a mysql user which has been configured to be read-only
14:58 owen        I do because I do development
14:58 owen        I don't recommend using the command line to interact with mysql
14:56 Nelson      I'm learning how to export, use MarcEdit, then re-import, so maybe this is the safe way to go.  I wish I could export, and somehow move to Excel, but have only been able to backstep to MarcEdit.
14:53 Nelson      Are you aware of any documentation for this sort of thing?
14:53 owen        Absolutely. You have to be very careful.
14:52 Nelson      Or corrupt other aspects, like circulation, etc.
14:52 Nelson      Do you edit data in the mysql tables, or what sort of activities?  Does editing data have the potential to corrupt the zebra indexing?
14:50 owen        I use putty quite often, usually to interact with mysql or to use the git version control system
14:48 Nelson      Thanks.  Do you navigate on the linux backend?  I've only used the GUI so far, but often find I want to poke around.  Have recently been advised to use putty for this purpose.
14:47 owen        This is a great place to find answers if you can catch the developers here. Just have to find the right time.
14:46 Nelson      Thanks, this is my first time to visit (and to use IRC!)
14:46 owen        Not many people around on Saturday & Sunday.
14:45 owen        No, sorry. You'll probably have better luck finding someone to answer that question during US or Europe business hours
14:44 Nelson      eg. Subject 6xx shows up on search returns when 6xx exists.  I'd like for the same presentation to occur when we use 773 host item entry (analytical cataloguing).  I'd like to see "Found in:" and a display of the host item.  Any thoughts on this?
14:42 Nelson      We're considering 505 and 773 and want to integrate into the GUI
14:42 Nelson      Okay, another question...
14:41 owen        I've heard that one or more people are workingo n bulk item update tools, but I haven't seen anything concrete
14:41 Nelson      eg. I want to move a batch of books from one shelf to another, by changing 952c.
14:40 Nelson      Haven't found *enough* documentation...
14:39 Nelson      Is there a way in the GUI to re-import new item information?  I see options for settings, but, eg. normalization, but haven't found any documentation.
14:38 owen        Yes
14:38 Nelson      You develop the GUI?
14:38 owen        Ask away, but I probably can't answer. That's not my area of expertise. Maybe someone else is listening who will know
14:37 Nelson      May I ask you a question about Zebra indexing?
14:36 Nelson      Howdy, I'm developing a union catalogue in South Africa...
14:36 owen        Hi
14:35 Nelson      Owen?
14:09 thd         hello owen
14:01 owen        Hi #koha