Time Nick Message 12:00 chris not what was changed, no 12:00 chris it (if you enable it) logs that a record was changed 12:00 chris but it doesnt keep a list of what was changed 12:06 |Lupin| chris: okay, thanks for the information 12:06 |Lupin| chris: actually it starts to be late for you now, no ? 12:07 Amit hi davi 12:08 |Lupin| hi Amit 12:08 chris yep time for me to go to sleep 12:09 Amit hi Lupin 12:20 davi hi Amit 12:41 |Lupin| There are HTML tags in http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:development:git_usage 12:42 |Lupin| <code>$ git push ssh:yourserver.com/~you/proj.git master</code> 13:20 |Lupin| (page fixed) 13:21 |Lupin| Is it mandatory to create a branch in a git repository ? 13:22 |Lupin| Or is it possible to work with the files obtain right after the clone operation ? 13:24 hdl_laptop |Lupin|: It is really much safer to create a local branch 13:27 |Lupin| hdl_laptop: ok, thanks 14:48 wizzyrea Ah the famous Owen returns! 14:48 owen Still famous after such a long absence? 14:48 wizzyrea always famous to me :) 14:49 wizzyrea your fame is legendary, come on 14:49 owen :) 14:53 owen I've got to find time to update my blog...haven't done so since just after KohaCon 14:53 owen I'm back at work after a long break, though, so everything's piled high 14:56 wizzyrea that qtip jquery plugin is neato 14:59 owen Yeah, I'm definitely looking into that one for future Koha use 15:00 wizzyrea I can so see the cover art in a clicky tooltip 15:00 wizzyrea or brief records/availability info in a tooltip 15:01 wizzyrea lots of hotness there 15:21 |Lupin| hi Melissa 16:52 wizzyrea oh, I have a bit of a funny koha story 16:53 wizzyrea so one of our staff members was posting items on the intranet, but was totally flummoxed by the fact that they weren't expiring at the right time 16:53 wizzyrea is it a bug? am I doing it wrong? The humanity! 16:53 wizzyrea so I thought about this 16:53 wizzyrea and realized that most of the accounts that our users use to circulate 16:54 wizzyrea had "edit news" capability 16:54 wizzyrea someone was clicking the delete link on the news 16:54 wizzyrea and satisfactorily saying to themselves "yay! that pesky news is gone!" 16:54 wizzyrea i lol'd 17:07 jdavidb lol 17:07 wizzyrea i knorite :) 17:08 jdavidb That'd be a fancy-pants enhancement, to make it where it work like they *think* it works... 17:08 wizzyrea god like... a per login news display 17:09 wizzyrea I only want YOU and YOU and YOU and YOU to see this 17:09 wizzyrea runs and hides 17:09 jdavidb You'd almost need to do a more general-purpose messaging system for that...post the news, and it shotguns out in copies to those users. 17:09 gmcharlt or for now, just remove the delete button from the home page 17:09 wizzyrea yea, or take away the perm 17:09 wizzyrea they don't need to edit news :{P 17:10 wizzyrea :P 17:10 jdavidb gmcharlt, you're taking all the fun out of it... :P 17:10 wizzyrea (which is what we did) 17:11 wizzyrea no fighting over news 17:11 wizzyrea ^.^ 17:11 wizzyrea (but I did save gmcharlt another support ticket) 18:21 chris @wunder wellington, new zealand 18:21 munin chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 3.0°C (6:00 AM NZST on June 24, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady). 18:21 chris brr 18:25 nicomo 3°C brrrr indeed 18:25 nicomo @wunder lyon, france 18:25 munin nicomo: The current temperature in Feyzin, Feyzin, France is 20.1°C (7:59 PM CEST on June 23, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa (Steady). 18:28 jdavidb @wunder bethesda, md 18:28 munin jdavidb: The current temperature in Burning Tree Estates, Bethesda, Maryland is 28.2°C (2:24 PM EDT on June 23, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.49 in 998.5 hPa (Falling). 18:53 wizzyrea @wunder lawrence, ks 18:53 munin wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 37.2°C (1:53 PM CDT on June 23, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 22.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009.0 hPa (Steady). Excessive heat warning in effect until 7 PM CDT Thursday... 18:53 chris ok ok i get it 18:53 wizzyrea nice! 18:54 chris you all have better weather :P 18:54 wizzyrea better... crap, if you like "excessive heat warnings" 18:54 wizzyrea yesterday I saw a 40C 18:54 wizzyrea on a bank 19:27 rhcl I just love the metric system. 40C is equal to 178F, but it sounds soooo nice and cool. 50 pounds (British) sounds cheap for a motherboard, but it's $394 in USD. 19:29 nicomo rhcl: I always found measures to be the most difficult things to grasp in a different culture 19:30 nicomo C° in F°, my size in feet instead of cm, weight in stones instead of kg, etc 19:30 nicomo 40C feels hot to me, whereas 178F doesn't feel anything, neither hot nor cold 19:32 jdavidb 40C = 104F, not 178. 178 would be really deadly. 19:32 wizzyrea yes, it was 104F 19:32 rhcl Actually, I lived a number of years (12+) in Korea, and I just developed a schizo mind--I never tried to covert, I just lived in one world (west vs east) and made that my frame of reference. 19:33 wizzyrea that makes sense, calibrate your mind to equate the number you see with what you feel 19:34 wizzyrea instead of trying to convert from the thing you know to the thing you don't 19:34 rhcl 104F is certainly potentially deadly to some people-the elderly and those without health problems with A/C. 19:34 wizzyrea rhcl: is it so nasty hot in StJo too? 19:34 wizzyrea it's icky here 19:35 rhcl Yea. Pretty bad. 19:36 rhcl Nicomo: So how is the WX in France? 19:36 wizzyrea @wunder lyon, france 19:36 munin wizzyrea: The current temperature in Feyzin, Feyzin, France is 19.0°C (8:59 PM CEST on June 23, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015.5 hPa (Steady). 19:36 nicomo yep 19:37 nicomo that's spot in the middle of the country 19:37 wizzyrea lucky :) 19:37 nicomo paul is at 19:37 nicomo @wunder marseille, France 19:37 chris its 7 in my lounge 19:37 munin nicomo: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 22.0°C (9:30 PM CEST on June 23, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). 19:37 nicomo a bit warmer 19:37 nicomo a at the beginning of this week I was at the northern border 19:38 nicomo @wunder lille france 19:38 munin nicomo: The current temperature in Lille, France is 18.0°C (9:30 PM CEST on June 23, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). 19:38 nicomo so : 18C to 23C from north to south at 9pm 19:39 rhcl @wunder Leucate Plage France 19:39 munin rhcl: The current temperature in Narbonne, France is 25.4°C (8:59 PM CEST on June 23, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Steady). 19:39 rhcl Life's a beach! 19:39 nicomo eh eh 19:39 nicomo especially at Leucate 19:39 nicomo @wunder biarritz france 19:39 munin nicomo: The current temperature in Boucau, Boucau, France is 23.1°C (9:38 PM CEST on June 23, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1013.8 hPa (Steady). 19:39 nicomo this one's better for surfing 19:40 rhcl Ah 19:41 rhcl I have to go check on a computer that's updating....brb 19:57 chris remind me why I thought a book about a monkey that does everything he is told not to do was a good idea to read to my son 19:58 pianohacker You helped start an open source project; clearly your sense of what to avoid to make your life easier has been impaired for a while :) 19:58 wizzyrea O.O 19:58 chris hehe 19:58 chris good point 19:59 rhcl You should just read him some Koha source code. :) 19:59 pianohacker I recommend reports/issues_avg_stats.pl 19:59 chris @quote add < pianohacker> You helped start an open source project; clearly your sense of what to avoid to make your life easier has been impaired for a while :) 19:59 munin chris: The operation succeeded. Quote #10 added. 19:59 wizzyrea @quote add Pianohacker (re: chris): You helped start an open source project; clearly your sense of what to avoid to make your life easier has been impaired for a while :) 19:59 munin wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #11 added. 19:59 wizzyrea lol 19:59 chris beatya 19:59 wizzyrea DOH 20:00 gmcharlt @quote remove 11 20:00 munin gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. 20:00 gmcharlt @quote show 10 20:00 munin gmcharlt: downloading the Perl source 20:01 gmcharlt @quote get 10 20:01 munin gmcharlt: Quote #10: "< pianohacker> You helped start an open source project; clearly your sense of what to avoid to make your life easier has been impaired for a while :)" (added by chris at 07:59 PM, June 23, 2009) 20:17 wizzyrea @quote random 20:17 munin wizzyrea: Quote #6: "gmcharlt: kf: hold requests are a plot to sell more aspirin ;)" (added by wizzyrea at 04:13 PM, June 16, 2009) 20:17 wizzyrea i love it that it always randomly assigns that one when I quote random 20:17 wizzyrea it's like it knows what I'm thinking!! 20:17 chris heh 20:17 ebegin chris, is there a wiki for all those commands? :) 20:18 chris for munin? not that im aware of 20:18 wizzyrea we could call it "playtime in #koha" 20:18 chris but you can do @help 20:18 wizzyrea er, sorry... quoting is serious business 20:18 ebegin wizzyrea, that what I tought... or having fun in #koha 20:18 chris gmcharlt might know 20:19 gmcharlt wizzyrea: not yet - basic commands are documented in supybot doc 20:19 wizzyrea kk 20:20 ebegin @roulette 20:20 munin ebegin: *click* 20:20 ebegin hahaha 20:22 wizzyrea @roulette 20:22 munin *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?! 20:22 wizzyrea aww 20:23 ebegin Doh! 20:23 ebegin @roulette 20:23 munin ebegin: *click* 20:23 ebegin ouf 20:23 wizzyrea Uh uh, you are not getting me to do that again... 20:24 ebegin :) 20:24 ebegin @roulette 20:24 munin *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?! 20:24 ebegin doh! 20:24 ebegin is that a real random... 20:24 ebegin @roulette 20:24 munin ebegin: *click* 20:24 ebegin @roulette 20:24 munin ebegin: *click* 20:25 ebegin yes :) who's next :) 20:25 wizzyrea @roulette 20:25 munin *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?! 20:25 wizzyrea SEE 20:28 wizzyrea gmcharlt: did that come through ok? 20:28 gmcharlt wizzyrea: your game of russian roulete? 20:29 wizzyrea no, my reports template patch, the one with the former linebreak issues? 20:29 wizzyrea i just sent it 20:29 wizzyrea again 20:29 gmcharlt wizzyrea: looks OK by eyeball 20:29 wizzyrea sweet 20:29 nicomo ok guys, have a nice roulette day 20:30 nicomo time to go to bed here in Europe 20:30 nicomo bye 20:37 richard hi 20:39 ebegin What is the copyrights on the "bridge" icon in Koha? 20:40 ebegin I like them, but since there is some english mention (book, sound, tape), I can not use them in french. 20:44 chris check out the about page ebegin it should tell you 20:45 ebegin oh! Thanks chris! 20:49 chris right taking kahu out 20:49 chris back later 21:30 rhcl @seen wizzyrea 21:30 munin rhcl: wizzyrea was last seen in #koha 1 hour and 34 seconds ago: <wizzyrea> sweet 21:30 rhcl liz: you on? 21:32 rhcl Did you see the SMUG post from Hutchinson Community College about moving from Sirsi to Civica/CMI's Spydus? 21:34 chris back 21:34 chris moving to spydus? are they on crack? 21:35 chris i mean, not going OSS is one thing ... but spydus ... yeeeuuuckkk 21:35 rhcl Well, huh, I donno. Maybe too much Jimson weed? 21:36 rhcl I don't know anything about Spydus. 21:36 rhcl So what do you know about it? 21:37 chris and iirc nelsonville was spydus too 21:37 chris they do um weird things with with their data 21:38 chris also the librarians (at least for the 2 i did) hated it ... mind you, librarians hate every ILS so take that with a grain of salt 21:38 chris they had a nasty policy of making you pay to get your own data out too 21:38 chris which I find distasteful 21:39 rhcl Ah, well, 3-5 years from now there will be an opportunity for some lucky company to help them migrate to Koha or something else. :) 21:40 chris bags not!! 21:40 rhcl My tech services supervisor really really loved Inlex. 21:40 chris (do you guys say that?) 21:41 rhcl No, that's not familiar to me. 21:41 chris In New Zealand and Australia the word "bags" is used to the same effect. "Bagsy" and "dibs" are used occasionally with the same meaning. When calling bags, one will not usually include the word "on" - "Bags ____ing" is used in the case of verbs, and "Bags the ____" in the case of nouns. Bags is of particular use in opting out of an undesirable task, when saying "Bags not me" before anyone else in the group will exclude one from having to do that task. 21:41 chris (from wikipedia) 21:42 rhcl ICIC 21:42 chris so im safe :) 21:46 rhcl For anybody that cares, we've been evaluating DSpace as a digital repository, and I'm pretty impressed with it so far. We will probably end up using it for our Project Bloodroot - a digitization of all the yearbooks from a early 1900's-1950s local cancer hospital. 21:46 chris sweet 21:46 chris im oblidged to ask if you have looked at kete :-) 21:47 chris even though im sure you have :)( 21:47 chris i have heard good things about dspace too 21:47 chris and i think sounds like it would fit that project better 21:47 chris (set and forget) 21:47 rhcl I actually took a pretty close look at the website. I'm certainly not trying to throw rocks at anything, but you know, for all the looking I did there was nothing on the site that said "Here's what Kete does". 21:48 chris yeah, i mentioned that to walter and Jo 21:48 chris the problem is, its pretty hard to define 21:48 chris i like to say its like dspace + wikipedia + youtube in one thing 21:50 rhcl Well, my inability to grasp it is the problem I'm sure, but I just never could see what it would do, or that it was the solution I was looking for. 21:50 rhcl I think the "giant" we are up against is contentDM. 21:50 chris basically the difference is 21:50 chris kete is for community driven content 21:51 chris dspace is for more of the traditional repository 21:51 rhcl It will be interesting to see how it (kete) develops. 21:51 chris its in use in quite a lot of places 21:55 chris but yeah it is for different purpose than dspace 21:59 chris http://horowhenua.kete.net.nz/site/topics/show/1556-koha-integrated-library-system 22:00 chris so people can edit, discusss, see the changes, add images etc 22:01 chris my fave bit of the horowhenua kete, is its adopt and anzac project 22:02 chris http://horowhenua.kete.net.nz/adopt_an_anzac/topics/show/533-gerald-sievers 22:02 wizzyrea ew, no I didn't see that 22:02 wizzyrea but got to go... ttyl 22:03 chris http://horowhenua.kete.net.nz/adopt_an_anzac/ 22:07 rhcl This is a pretty good overview: http://horowhenua.kete.net.nz/about 22:10 chris yep 22:11 rhcl You know, I've been looking at the site. It appears to present a very good way for people to informally document "localized' (for lack of a better word) information like family histories, or a history of some local interest. 22:12 rhcl I see the potential now that I hadn't noticed previously. I may have to play around with it after Project Bloodroot. 22:13 chris *nod* 22:13 chris my work here is done 22:14 chris hehehe 22:21 rhcl well, time to go home here. later~~ 22:32 brendan do authority searches work with noZebra ? 22:33 gmcharlt brendan: in principle yes, but subject to same sorts of limitations as biblio NoZebra searching 22:33 chris im personally of the opinion 22:33 brendan thanks gmcharlt 22:33 chris that there is no real reason to run nozebra 22:34 brendan *nods* :) 22:34 chris at least for any Koha's we set up 22:34 brendan correct! 22:35 brendan was just a question that popped up and I wasn't sure. Actually I don't think I've used Koha without Zebra. 22:36 gmcharlt then feel free to forget about NoZebra entirely ;) 22:36 brendan hey gmcharlt good to hear from you :) 22:36 chris i can see that for ppl setting it up for their little church library, or their home library, that getting zebra up and going can be a bit hard 22:37 chris but i think we should work to make that as easy as possible, and deprecate nozebra 22:37 brendan that's what coffee is for 22:37 gmcharlt chris: agreed, although if one isn't running a VM or from a future .deb, the crontabs will probably always be a bit stick 22:37 gmcharlt *sticky 22:37 chris true 22:38 gmcharlt for the true Linux novice 22:38 chris *nod* 22:43 chris you scared him off brendan 22:43 brendan hehe 22:43 chris :-) 22:43 brendan a talent I wish not to have ! 22:43 chris hehe 22:54 gmcharlt_away heh, I'm just finding dinner an attractive prospect at the moment 22:54 chris good to see the press releases for the other libraries you are working on brendan 22:55 brendan cool - yeah I haven't heard back from danny yet -- if he was able to access it 22:55 chris was fine from here 22:55 brendan he's was getting network timed out issues 22:56 gmcharlt_away another new library F/OSS project: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/web4lib/2009-June/049625.html 22:56 chris oh kick arse 22:56 gmcharlt_away although I'm waiting for the day when somebody gives up and names their ERMs ERMess 22:56 chris ive been wanting a decent ERMS 22:57 chris galadriel chilton 22:57 chris someones parents were LOTR fans :)\ 22:58 gmcharlt_away hmm - ERMes is an Access database 23:00 chris darn, it looks like im still waiting for a decent ERMS 23:00 gmcharlt_away heh 23:01 gmcharlt_away oh well, at least it's something for any library stuck with M$ 23:01 chris *nod* 23:10 brendan cya #koha 23:11 chris brendan: mets on espn 23:11 chris (you probably know that) 23:13 Snow_Fox out of curisoity on the liblime demo is there a example of overdue notices? 23:16 chris pass 00:01 pianohacker 'night, #koha 03:10 brendan @wunder 93117 03:10 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 17.4°C (8:07 PM PDT on June 23, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.79 in 1008.7 hPa (Rising). 03:27 Amit hi brendan, chris 03:28 Amit good morning #koha 03:28 chris hi amit 03:28 brendan hey amit - good evening 03:28 Amit hi mason, richard 03:28 Amit heya brendan good morning 03:28 richard hey amit 03:28 brendan @wunder new delhi india 03:28 munin brendan: The current temperature in New Delhi, India is 36.0°C (8:30 AM IST on June 24, 2009). Conditions: Unknown. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady). 03:29 brendan wow going to be hot there today 03:31 Amit hi munin 03:32 Amit munin: New Delhi is hot 03:32 munin Amit: I suck 03:32 chris http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/2531738/Explosion-in-Wellington-office-building 03:32 chris did you see that richard? 03:33 richard crikey 03:33 richard i'm guessing si will be hotfooting it to there from the library about now 03:34 chris reckon so 03:34 mason howdy folks 03:34 richard might even have young ben in tow 03:34 richard hi mason 03:34 mason hot in the city 03:35 Amit heya mason 03:36 Amit namaste mason 03:38 chris http://cola.tuxfamily.org/screenshots.php 03:40 chris @later tell gmcharlt check this out http://cola.tuxfamily.org/screenshots.php 03:40 munin chris: The operation succeeded. 03:45 hdl_laptop hi chris 03:45 chris yikes, you are awake early hdl_laptop 03:46 hdl_laptop remember i have a baby too ;) 03:46 chris ah of course :) 03:53 Amit hi hdl 03:53 Amit chris: how is ur baby 03:54 chris good, doing what babies do, sleeping and eating :) 03:58 richard chris: loud explosion, smoke but no damage. blame is on a lightbulb 03:58 hdl_laptop hi all 03:58 chris ahh thats all good then richard 04:01 hdl_laptop chris: thx btw about translations 04:09 chris no problem, thanks for spotting it 04:16 thd hdl_laptop: are you fully awake? 04:16 hdl_laptop I donot think so. 04:17 thd hdl_laptop: have you not slept yet? or are babies waking you? 04:17 hdl_laptop baby waking me up too early ;) 04:18 thd hdl_laptop: sing your baby back to sleep :) 04:19 hdl_laptop he already is back to sleep. 04:19 thd hdl_laptop: sing yourself back to sleep :) 04:34 Amit hi thd 04:34 thd hello Amit 04:35 Amit thd: thd means 04:36 Amit k 04:38 thd Amit: do you have any public Z39.50 servers in India now? 04:38 Amit right no but very soon delhi public library launches own z39.50 server 04:38 Amit may be aug end 04:39 thd Amit: are any others forthcoming? 04:40 Amit in my knowledge i think no 04:41 Amit thd; R u form 04:42 thd Amit: Did you mean to ask where I am from? 04:42 Amit yes 04:43 thd I live in New York City 04:43 Amit k 04:55 thd Amit: What classification systems are in use at the Dehli Public Library? 04:58 Amit thd: they are using DDC 04:59 thd Amit: What subject heading thesauri are in use? 05:13 thd Amit: Does the Dehli Public Library have authority records? 05:14 Amit they have authority for testing only 05:15 thd Are they testing subject authority records? 05:44 brendan @seen nahuel 05:44 munin brendan: nahuel was last seen in #koha 6 days, 16 hours, 50 minutes, and 51 seconds ago: <nahuel> complicated 06:00 Amit thd: http://59.176.17.111/cgi-bin/koha/opac-authorities-home.pl 06:00 Amit search by amit 07:08 chris good morning europe 07:08 nicomo evening chris 07:12 Amit hi nicomo 07:14 nicomo Hi Amit 07:24 thd good morning nicomo and nahuel 07:24 nahuel hi thd 07:39 Amit *Amit is known as osslabs 07:53 |Lupin| hello ! 07:53 chris hi |Lupin| 07:54 |Lupin| Just tried to run Koha with a dev-style install (i.e. from sources) 07:54 |Lupin| and get the follwing error: 07:54 |Lupin| Can't use an undefined value as a HASH reference at /home/seb/src/koha/C4/Auth.pm line 327. 07:54 |Lupin| Can anyone help with that, please ? 07:55 |Lupin| hi chris 07:55 chris never seen that before 07:56 |Lupin| uhuh... 07:56 |Lupin| any idea how I can investigate ? 07:57 |Lupin| I had a look to the mentionned line but it was not inspiring for me... 08:00 chris running from master? 08:00 chris or the 3.0.x branch? 08:00 |Lupin| master 08:02 |Lupin| and git pull says already uptodate 08:03 chris there are no other errors before that? 08:03 chris about being able to connect to the db or anything? 08:04 |Lupin| not on the page itself 08:04 |Lupin| I can have a look to apache's log perhaps 08:05 chris good idea 08:08 |Lupin| opac-main.pl: OPAC: Database update needed, redirecting to maintenance. Database is 3.0001005 and Koha is 3.01000B37 at /home/seb/src/koha/C4/Auth.pm line ... 08:08 |Lupin| ahah ! 08:09 |Lupin| actually I had a standard install on my system before 08:09 |Lupin| and since I wanted to start hacking in Koha I installed it in dev mode 08:09 |Lupin| I thought I could use the same database. 08:10 chris yep you will need to go to the librarian interface 08:10 chris and hopefully it will let you upgrade 08:11 |Lupin| let's try, thanks !! 08:12 |Lupin| it runs the web installer... 08:12 |Lupin| is this what has to be done, or will it erase the database completely ? 08:12 chris nope thats what has to be done 08:13 chris you can of course do a mysqldump before just in case 08:13 |Lupin| oh well 08:13 chris but it will jump to the last step, and apply upgrades to get it to the required level 08:13 |Lupin| there are not somany datas in the db... 08:16 |Lupin| ah I thought koha would let me log in with the super librarian account I have created for myself, but it does not. Is that intended ? 08:16 chris no 08:16 chris sorry yes 08:17 chris on the user specified in the koha-conf.xml 08:17 chris can run the upgrades 08:18 chris so not any user you made in koha 08:18 |Lupin| okay, I undestand, thanks 08:18 |Lupin| yep 08:19 |Lupin| [Wed Jun 24 10:17:40 2009] updatedatabase.pl: DBD::mysql::db do failed: Duplicate entry 'AllowRenewalLimitOverride' for key 1 at /home/seb/src/koha/installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl line 2035. 08:19 chris that may be safe to ignore 08:20 |Lupin| [Wed Jun 24 10:17:40 2009] updatedatabase.pl: DBD::mysql::db do failed: Cannot add or update a child row: a foreign key constraint fails (`braillenet_koha/message_transports`, CONSTRAINT `message_transports_ibfk_2` FOREIGN KEY (`message_transport_type`) REFERENCES `message_transport_types` (`message_transport_type`) ON DELETE CA) at /home/seb/src/koha/installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl line 2054. 08:20 |Lupin| hmm actually... 08:21 |Lupin| http://pastebin.com/f47c0c1e8 08:22 |Lupin| chris: could you please have a look to it and se whether all the messages are benine ? 08:22 si hmm 08:22 si oops 08:23 chris |Lupin|: maybe 08:23 chris :) 08:23 |Lupin| okay 08:23 |Lupin| I continued and things seem to work 08:23 chris cant say for sure, if it lets you login now, thats a good start 08:23 |Lupin| the only thing is tha Koha now is in english 08:23 |Lupin| so maybe other parameters have been lost... 08:27 |Lupin| it's weird, on the global system preferences, for instance, some things are in french, others in english 08:27 |Lupin| e.g. the description of the preferences are in french, but the buttons in english 08:31 |Lupin| and if I try to set the language pref in the area, english is my only option, just as if the other languages were not available... 08:36 chris yes because the templates wont exist 08:36 chris since you did a new install 08:36 chris dev install doesnt create the templates 08:36 chris you need to go misc/translation 08:36 chris and run install-code.pl fr-FR 08:36 chris if you want french for example 08:38 |Lupin| ahah ! tnaks ! 08:38 |Lupin| Perhaps There is already a documentation where this is explained ? (which would avoid me to bug everybody...) 08:39 chris might be on the wiki 08:39 chris generally the dev install is for dev tho, so it kinda makes assumptions you know what you are doing (often the assumptions are wrong) so it might not be documented 08:40 chris if you cant find it on the wiki 08:40 chris it would be great if you add it :) 08:41 |Lupin| sure 08:41 |Lupin| actually I'm supposed to be a developer, or more precisely to become a koha developer somehow 08:42 |Lupin| it's just that the beginnings are hard 08:42 chris *nod* 08:42 |Lupin| chris: any idea where this could fit ? 08:43 chris http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:development 08:44 chris maybe "Things to know when doing a dev install" 08:44 chris 1/ Only the english templates are created .... 08:45 |Lupin| yes 08:45 |Lupin| also 08:46 |Lupin| now french appears in the possible values for language 08:46 |Lupin| but it is not used as the default language 08:46 |Lupin| I think I am looking at the wrong preference actually... 08:48 |Lupin| hmm still the opaclanguages variable has value Français(fr-FR) [X] 08:58 osslabs hi Lupin 08:59 |Lupin| hi osslabs 08:59 osslabs Lupin i m Amit 08:59 |Lupin| ah 09:00 |Lupin| I was just about to ask 09:00 osslabs hmm 09:16 |Lupin| chris: okay, page pudated. 09:21 chris awesome 09:22 |Lupin| thx 09:23 |Lupin| yet the language problem is not fixed on my install :) 09:43 |Lupin| Is there a way to see which templates koha tries to load, just to figure out why the french ones aren't loaded ? 09:43 |Lupin| (btw I don't even know where these templates are supposed to reside...) 09:45 hdl_laptop |Lupin|: koha-tmpl directory 09:45 hdl_laptop or htdocs if it is not a dev install 09:45 hdl_laptop |Lupin|: you can look at get_user_and_template 09:46 |Lupin| hdl_laptop: okay, thanks 09:47 |Lupin| hdl_laptop: opac-tmpl/prog/fr-FR is there 09:47 |Lupin| and the language and opaclanguage system preferences are correct in the database 11:30 osslabs hi jawgner