Time Nick Message 13:13 SirStan are there docs on how to moev from nozebra to zebra? 13:51 Kivutar slef: have you read my comment on http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3144 ? 13:51 munin 04Bug 3144: normal, P5, ---, jeanandre.santoni@biblibre.com, NEW, anti-spam for opac-suggestions 14:50 wizzyrea @quote 14:50 munin wizzyrea: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready 14:50 wizzyrea @quote random 14:50 munin wizzyrea: Quote #1: "<pianohacker> resolve, rather, I doubt it needs lotion" (added by gmcharlt at 03:05 AM, May 31, 2009) 14:50 wizzyrea @quote 3 14:50 munin wizzyrea: I suck 14:51 pianohacker @quote get 3 14:51 munin pianohacker: Quote #3: "< bignose-work> the only constant in climate over the next several decades will be that the climate doesn't match what you just got used to." (added by chris at 01:55 AM, June 12, 2009) 14:51 wizzyrea AH thanks 14:51 wizzyrea @quote get 5 14:51 munin wizzyrea: Quote #5: "<jwagner> Why is it every Koha rock I turn over produces a zillion (metaphorical) ants, each with a new question????" (added by kf at 01:13 PM, June 12, 2009) 14:51 wizzyrea @quote get 7 14:51 munin wizzyrea: Error: There is no Quote with id #7 in my database for #koha. 14:51 wizzyrea @quote get 6 14:51 munin wizzyrea: Quote #6: "gmcharlt: kf: hold requests are a plot to sell more aspirin ;)" (added by wizzyrea at 04:13 PM, June 16, 2009) 14:52 wizzyrea yes, that's the one I was looking for 14:52 wizzyrea lol 14:52 kf lol 14:54 wizzyrea we just discovered that "return all" from moremember doesn't trigger holds 14:55 wizzyrea it will transfer items home 14:55 wizzyrea (invisibly) 14:55 wizzyrea but not trap holds 14:55 wizzyrea ewps 14:55 wizzyrea hence, aspirin 14:55 wizzyrea :) 14:55 pianohacker Oh god the returns code 14:55 wizzyrea >.< 14:55 wizzyrea don't say that! 14:55 gmcharlt hastur 14:55 gmcharlt hastur 14:55 gmcharlt ... 14:56 SirStan how do I enable a fasceted search on the side of the koha search ersults window? 14:56 pianohacker Even the returns screen that _works_ is a twisted nightmare 14:57 Snow_Fox www.userfriendly.org 14:57 pianohacker gmcharlt: beetlejuice? 14:57 Snow_Fox he is kinda inhabiting that atm 14:57 gmcharlt pianohacker: indeed 14:58 pianohacker SirStan: I believe there's a Facets option under the Searching tab in Global System Preferences (though you'll need Zebra for it to work) 14:58 SirStan pianohacker: is there an easy roadmap to go from nozebra to zebra? 14:59 pianohacker SirStan: Mainly, just install Zebra and index your database 14:59 kf no option, its just there, but perhaps only with zebra 14:59 SirStan i installed zebra-- but i thought when i installed koha i said 'dont use zebra' 14:59 pianohacker SirStan: It's easy to switch 14:59 wizzyrea there is a syspref iirc 15:00 SirStan oh wow. 15:00 pianohacker Just disable the NoZebra syspref on the Cataloguing tab 15:00 SirStan its just working. 15:03 kf I think faceted search cant be turned off - at least there is no syspref in searching 15:04 kf perhaps its somewhere else 15:04 pianohacker kf: You might be right 15:05 pianohacker There might not be a syspref 15:05 pianohacker SirStan: How do you mean? 15:13 SirStan How do I mean what 15:14 pianohacker that its just working 15:14 SirStan i mean -- i typed 5 commands, one syspref, and zebra is running. 15:14 SirStan impresive 15:15 pianohacker Oh, cool 15:16 SirStan i say that -- but now my searches arent working 15:22 kf g 15:22 kf perhaps you have to reindex 15:22 kf using rebuild_zebra.pl 15:27 SirStan when i run koha-zebra-daemon start 15:27 SirStan shouldnt something happen? 15:27 SirStan a process rns in the background .. anyting? 15:27 pianohacker It should; does ps ax | grep zebrasrv show anything ? 15:27 SirStan n 15:27 Snow_Fox a rift opens in space the information is shuffled to dev_hypersapce rift then closes 15:27 Snow_Fox :-P 15:28 wizzyrea @quote add Snow_Fox: a rift opens in space the information is shuffled to dev_hyperspace rift then closes 15:28 munin wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #7 added. 15:29 Snow_Fox heh 15:29 SirStan nothing occurs.. no process.. no logs.. nothing 15:29 pianohacker SirStan: Try running sudo -u koha zebrasrv -f <path to koha-conf.xml> 15:30 pianohacker That'll run it in the foreground, with the correct privileges 15:30 SirStan cmd not found. 15:30 pianohacker Huh 15:31 pianohacker How did you install zebra? 15:31 SirStan ah i didnt. 15:31 SirStan so - how does one -- install it 15:31 pianohacker SirStan: What distro are you on? 15:31 SirStan ubuntu 15:32 pianohacker Okay. I believe there is a package you can install (you can find it with apt-cache search zebra) 15:33 atz i'm cleaning returns code now... for what should have been a simple thing 15:34 SirStan pianohacker; there used to be :( 15:34 pianohacker atz: returns are never simple; I remember trying to duplicate returns functionality in AJAX before eventually just giving up and showing a popup window 15:34 SirStan i wrote the Ubuntu install docs on the wiki. 15:34 pianohacker Ack, it disappeared from the repo? 15:34 SirStan one sec 15:35 SirStan Get:3 http://ftp.indexdata.dk hardy Release [3454B] 15:35 SirStan im using indexdata.. 15:35 SirStan ah.. 15:35 pianohacker SirStan: It might be easier to install from source 15:35 SirStan its idzebra-2.0 now 15:35 SirStan god no 15:38 SirStan the zebra startup script needs to be fixed quite a bit 15:38 pianohacker The one packaged with Koha, or the one that comes with the package? 15:38 SirStan he one that comes with koha 15:38 SirStan doesnt produce any usable errors/notiecs 15:39 SirStan silently failing is horrible 15:39 gmcharlt SirStan: feel free to send a patch 15:43 SirStan :) 15:43 wizzyrea is there only one place to set the outgoing email address for an entire koha system? 15:43 wizzyrea that notices get sent from? 15:43 pianohacker wizzyrea: You should also be able to set it per-library, in the libraries and groups screen 15:43 wizzyrea right, but in some of our libraries it is set, but not working... hm 15:44 pianohacker Is it not working for some kinds of notices, or for all of them 15:44 wizzyrea well overdues, specifically 15:45 wizzyrea (is the only one I have evidence for, currently) 15:45 wizzyrea the only thing that I can see wouold be different 15:46 joetho wizzy and I should compare how that works when you have indep branches turned on (me) and off (wizzy) 15:46 wizzyrea is that the libraries in question have blah@something.lib.ks.us addresses 15:46 wizzyrea instead of @something.com 15:47 wizzyrea (I mean, this is kind of anecdotal, hard evidence I don't have) 15:47 joetho "some work and some don't" sounds like a smtp problem 15:47 wizzyrea but at quick glance it *appears* to be the case 15:47 wizzyrea no, by not work I mean 15:47 wizzyrea some libraries with defined email addresses come from the default address 15:47 wizzyrea the messages come* that is 15:48 wizzyrea the ones that are sending via the default address *seem* to be @lib.ks.us 15:48 wizzyrea addresses 15:48 wizzyrea so I wonder if it's something to do with all the dots 15:48 wizzyrea but that's wild speculation 15:51 gmcharlt @google HTTP 501 15:51 munin gmcharlt: HTTP Error 501 Not implemented Explained: <http://www.checkupdown.com/status/E501.html>; HTTP/1.1: Status Code Definitions: <http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec10.html>; How to solve HTTP 501/ HTTP 505 error ? - Yahoo! Answers India: <http://in.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080921235411AAagdpx>; HTTP 501 – Status Code Definition definition - SEO (1 more message) 15:55 danny @marc 245 15:55 munin danny: The title and statement of responsibility area of the bibliographic description of a work. [a,b,c,f,g,h,k,n,p,s,6,8] 15:55 danny thats very cool 15:57 eb_inLibro @marc 080a 15:57 munin eb_inLibro: unknown tag 080a 15:57 eb_inLibro @marc 080 15:57 munin eb_inLibro: A number taken from the Universal Decimal Classification scheme. (Repeatable) [] 16:05 danny @marc 080 a 16:05 munin danny: unknown field/subfield combination (080/a) 16:06 danny @marc 245 a 16:06 munin danny: Title 16:07 Sharon http://www.oclc.org/bibformats/es/0xx/080.shtm 16:08 kf @marc 001 16:08 munin kf: The control number assigned by the organization creating, using, or distributing the record. The MARC code for the organization is contained in field 003 (Control Number Identifier). [] 16:08 kf very cool 16:10 kf @google lake of constance 16:10 munin kf: Lake Constance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Constance>; Lake constance travel guide: <http://www.world66.com/europe/germany/badenwrttemberg/lakeconstance>; Lake Constance (lake, Europe) -- Britannica Online Encyclopedia: <http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/133720/Lake-Constance>; Lake of Constance Holidays and Hotel Information: (2 more messages) 16:12 kf bye #koha - off from work for 1 week now :) 16:21 SirStan chris: around? 16:23 schuster Hey that MARC thing is way cool! 16:23 schuster @marc 856 16:23 munin schuster: The information needed to locate and access an electronic resource. The field may be used in a bibliographic record for a resource when that resource or a subset of it is available electronically. In addition, it may be used to locate and access an electronic version of a non-electronic resource described in the bibliographic record or a related electronic resource. (Repeatable) (1 more message) 16:26 danny @more 16:26 munin danny: Error: That's all, there is no more. 16:27 danny @marc 856 16:27 munin danny: The information needed to locate and access an electronic resource. The field may be used in a bibliographic record for a resource when that resource or a subset of it is available electronically. In addition, it may be used to locate and access an electronic version of a non-electronic resource described in the bibliographic record or a related electronic resource. (Repeatable) (1 more message) 16:27 danny @more 16:27 munin danny: [a,b,c,d,f,h,i,j,k,l,m,n,o,p,q,r,s,t,u,v,w,x,y,z,2,3,6,8] 16:27 danny munin++ very cool 16:27 munin danny: downloading the Perl source 16:28 SirStan @marc 952 16:28 munin SirStan: unknown tag 952 16:32 Snow_Fox is it me or is munin missing a few characters 16:33 Snow_Fox oh wait 16:33 Snow_Fox nm 16:33 Snow_Fox <- nooberific 16:37 schuster danny - Thanks for the more I was sitting here wondering how to get that! Too bad it doesn't have the indicator information too! 16:39 danny ah, glad I could help, it was something I was trying to figure out as well :) 16:41 saintmike hi im new to koha and i wanted to know if there is a way to automatically populate the additem.pl page if i initially came from detail.pl page... 16:42 pianohacker saintmike: No, there isn't 16:42 pianohacker It's kind of annoying that you have to fill in, say, the homebranch for every single item, even when they're all entered together 16:43 pianohacker You might try looking for a related bug on http://bugs.koha.org/ , voting for it if there is one, or creating one if there isn't 16:46 saintmike pianohacker : cause i wanted to fill the details of additem.pl page so that it would be easier to alter what is necessary...i would not want to rewrite every details, that should not be altered... 16:47 pianohacker saintmike: Are you trying to create new items, or edit existing ones? 16:47 saintmike id like to edit existing items... 16:47 pianohacker Ahh, okay. Then all you have to do is click the edit link at the far left 16:47 pianohacker Sorry for the misunderstanding 16:49 saintmike do you mean the "Edit biblio" button? 16:49 pianohacker One sec 16:50 pianohacker Okay, so from the "Normal" (detail.pl) page, click on Edit, then Edit items 16:50 pianohacker Then, click on the blue edit link for the item in question (I'm assuming you're on Koha 3.0; are you on 2.2?) 16:52 saintmike well im using koha229 for windows? 16:52 pianohacker Okay then. Let me figure out how you would do that on 2.2.9 16:55 saintmike there is a folder icon on the right side and i clicked it...i think i got it... 16:55 saintmike would this feature still available in version 2.2.8 in debian OSes? 16:57 pianohacker It should be, though there's no reason to use 2.2.9 on a non-windows system 16:57 pianohacker 3.0.2 is much more pleasant 16:59 saintmike okay...may i ask what is the difference between 2.2.8 and 3.0.2? 16:59 pianohacker Many, many new features, not to mention bugfixes 16:59 pianohacker Nicer looking interface 17:01 saintmike can i import the existing database which is from 2.2.8 to 3.0.2? 17:01 pianohacker Yes 17:01 pianohacker http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=22_to_30 17:02 pianohacker Also http://koha.org/news/koha-version-3-released 17:02 joetho what exactly are "virtual shelf entries"? 17:02 pianohacker joetho: Presumably, items on a virtual shelf, but what are you quoting? 17:03 joetho as relates to local item information in a koha marc record 17:04 saintmike pianohacker : is there a link where i can see the interface for 3.0.2? 17:05 joetho liblime demo? 17:05 pianohacker saintmike: http://liblime.com/demos 17:06 joetho you are so obedient, pno 17:06 joetho heh heh heh 17:06 pianohacker joetho: Don't get any ideas, mr. rubber cheesecake 17:06 joetho I was hoping you had forgotten that. 17:07 joetho hmmm, how to change screennames in irc...? 17:07 pianohacker /nick my_new_screen_name 17:07 saintmike pianohacker : thanx... 17:07 pianohacker saintmike: Not a problem. Good luck 17:08 pianohacker http://koha.org has links to documentation, and live OPACs for many libraries running Koha; good resource 17:09 saintmike what's the default username and password for this demo? 17:10 pianohacker liblime/liblime 17:17 saintmike pianohacker : thanx again....... 17:19 schuster Oh shucks I was going to remind saintmike - there isn't a windows version is there? 17:27 atz gmcharlt: would appreciate any thoughts on patchset for returns 17:28 atz i think i dealt w/ all the messy conditionals (outside SIP) 17:35 gmcharlt atz: I'll take a look, but don't expect to get to until the evening 17:36 atz it's ok, i just know how central returns is to real operation 17:36 atz so i feel a bit out of place revising it when my focus is really on SIP, even if the code was begging for it 17:41 pianohacker schuster: He mentioned debian, so I think he's going that route 19:00 chris morning 19:01 joetho afternoon 19:01 pianohacker good mornafternooning 19:02 joetho slaving away in these windowless dungeons has predictable results. 19:03 pianohacker working_at_home++ 19:37 chris how are you liking quassel liz? 19:38 liz I think I like it 19:39 SirStan hey chris -- you around? 19:40 pianohacker SirStan: He might be busy - could I help you with something? 19:40 liz chris: it has some advantages over colloquy, that's for sure 19:41 SirStan pianohacker: i wanted to follow up with something from yesterday. 19:41 pianohacker ah 19:41 maja I am installing Koha on opensuse 11.0 . I have some issues . can anyone help? 19:41 SirStan no queston; added info. 19:41 SirStan maja: ask away. 19:41 chris yep im semi here, sup SirStan ? 19:41 SirStan chris: remember I was bitching about the language modules loading slowly yesterday? 19:42 chris yep 19:42 SirStan chris: I turned on mysql logging -- an this is the query log for a single hit to the opac -- http://vtwireless.com/mysql.log 19:42 chris did you see the pastebin thing i did? 19:42 SirStan no! 19:42 chris 2 secs 19:43 maja SirStan: I am modifying koha-httpd.conf according to instructions but I cannot restart apache since it always says that modeule rewriet is not there although there is word reqrite in apache modules section 19:43 chris http://koha.pastebin.com/m54d62fb6 19:43 SirStan maja: do you have mod_rewrite enabled? 19:44 chris SirStan: it almost halved the execute time, so you might want to try it out 19:44 SirStan chris: doing so now! 19:44 SirStan pre-benchmarking 19:45 maja SirStan: yes, of course 19:45 chris (i have all the languages enabled tho, so your mileage may vary (i was testing it on the koha i use for testing translations)) 19:45 SirStan maja: what is the error message (exactly)? 19:46 SirStan chris: how does Memoize know when the cache is dirty? 19:46 maja SirStan: for example it says that there is syntax error on line 7 in koha-httpd.conf where I put Listen 8080 as it was requested 19:46 SirStan maja: can you please pastebin the exact errors. 19:47 chris SirStan: you can tell it to expire 19:47 SirStan chris: so somehow memoize maps itself infront of the called function? 19:47 chris yep 19:47 chris and when you call the function with the same arguments 19:48 chris it gives you the result, rahter than re executing the function 19:48 chris this is just a test 19:48 pianohacker maja: Is that Listen 8080 inside the <VirtualHost> block? It needs to be before it 19:48 maja SirStan: Ok, thanks, just a second 19:48 chris the real patch would probably use Memoize::Expire and Memoize::Memcached 19:49 chris (to provide persistence and expiration) 19:49 chris by default, memoize caches to memory, so it expires when the script ends 19:49 chris which actually is very useful in a lot of places in koha 19:50 chris fredericd has been doing some good work with that 19:50 maja pianohacker: thanks, I corrected it works 19:51 pianohacker maja: Cool 19:51 SirStan chris: 500% gain 19:51 chris http://lists.koha.org/pipermail/koha-patches/2009-June/003771.html 19:51 chris SirStan: awesome :-) 19:51 SirStan chris: just kidding. 19:51 SirStan I didnt have MLDBM 19:52 SirStan the error comes up 500% faster than the results diod though 19:52 pianohacker Hahahaha 19:52 chris ahh, yeah i used MLDBM because it can serialise objects 19:52 chris but in reallife i will probably use memcached, then i can use different caching namespaces, so multiple koha's dont fight over a file 19:54 SirStan Time per request: 5600.573 [ms] (mean) -> 4128.802 [ms] (mean) 19:54 SirStan 27% performance gain 19:54 maja pianohacker: When I want to start installation it does not redirect me to installer.pl file. any advise 19:54 chris cool, thats worth doing properly then 19:55 pianohacker maja: What does it do? 19:55 chris try running it again SirStan 19:55 chris just for kicks please 19:55 SirStan I ran 100 queries, 5 concurrent users. 19:55 chris sweet 19:55 SirStan one sec 19:55 SirStan ill post before|after timings 19:55 chris so i think its worth continuing on the memoize path (did you see fredericd's results) 19:57 SirStan http://vtwireless.com/koha/memoize.html 19:57 maja pianohacker: I see only :"It works!" but it does not redirect me anywhere 19:57 SirStan maja: remove your default vhost file 19:59 chris SirStan: yeah so i reckon we just memoize the bottlenecks, at least the ones it is safe to do so 19:59 chris does it drop the number of mysql queries? 19:59 maja SirStan: I have the same IP in teh both VirtualHost ections and I guess that is an issue. I get maintenance.pl, buT I dont have installer started. any advise? 19:59 SirStan chris : one sec 19:59 pianohacker maja: Do you have the same port in both sections? 20:00 pianohacker Often, the opac will be at, say, http://localhost/ and the staff client will be at http://localhost:8080/ 20:00 SirStan chris: oddly.. no 20:00 SirStan well -- it probably cuts them in half. 20:01 SirStan so there must be another place to memoize. 20:01 SirStan in the same file 20:02 chris could well be 20:03 maja pianohacker: http://pastebin.ca/1465268 20:03 chris could you run the profiler and see what subroutine is the slow one in the languages module now? 20:03 chris and ill go make my son breakfast 20:04 pianohacker maja: try changing <VirtualHost 192.168.1.2:0> to <VirtualHost 192.168.1.2:80> 20:04 SirStan chris: i tossed three more memoize staements in 20:06 maja pianohacker: thanks, it works, congratulkations, I am looking for password now 20:06 pianohacker maja: Cool. The password will be at the bottom of your koha-conf.xml 20:06 chris SirStan: caching to files also? 20:06 chris (different files of course) 20:06 SirStan chris yea.. langues_get_description and GetAllLanguages 20:07 SirStan cut & paste of your code with a diffrent temp file 20:07 SirStan down to ~15 queries (from 200+) 20:07 SirStan timing now. 20:08 maja pianohacker: yes, it owrks so well so far. Koha will be library system for the Anglo American School. http://www.angloamericanschool.net 20:08 SirStan chris: 28% faster. you got the big one. (26% faster with your one chaneg) 20:09 pianohacker maja: Very nice! Did you use the default password during the install ? 20:10 chris SirStan: i went for that one, since it is used on everypage 20:10 maja pianohacker: I used mine that I defined fro teh user and databse, in some cases it was default 20:10 chris there will be specific hogs, for specific pages, that we can tackle next 20:10 pianohacker maja: Okay, cool. Just wanted to check, minor security problem. 20:10 chris but i think C4::Context might be a target for some memoizing 20:11 chris ok, now i really have to make some breakfast before kahu gets mad :) 20:12 pianohacker I made a syspref mutator (C4::Context->set_preference) as part of my new sysprefs editor (in progress) that would be useful in that memoizing work 20:12 maja pianohacker: I logged in teh system. I guess I need to study documentation. But I will fiorstly install it on my laptop so I can study it a bit more 20:13 pianohacker Cool. Have you seen http://koha.org/ ? Lots of documentation and links to demos and libraries already using Koha 20:13 maja pianohacker: yes, indeed 20:14 pianohacker cool. Gotta promote the website 20:21 maja pianohacker: I will install KOha on my laptop for the sake of exercise ande being able to study it more while I am not in teh school 20:23 Elwell_ maja: virtual machines are wonderful for that 20:25 pianohacker Bah 20:25 SirStan srsly. 20:25 pianohacker windows xp -> vmware -> linux -> _wine_ -> java -> jython 20:25 SirStan ooooh. 20:25 SirStan of course.. by windows xp.. you mean... inside parallels on your macbook 20:26 pianohacker Well, if I had a macbook, of course that's what I would mean 20:26 pianohacker >:) 20:28 SirStan chris: http://vtwireless.com/nytprof/ << opac-main.pl, 3.00.02 stock w/ our mods. 20:32 pianohacker You've definitely knocked out the major ones 20:32 pianohacker utf8/xml parsing seem to be the only two remaining large items 20:33 hdl_laptop utf8::SWASHNEW : marc has a way to come around this. 20:43 maja pianohaker: I am now from other computer with nick vedran. I will part as "maja" but I wil stay here 21:04 pianohacker bbl, weekly library trip 21:08 vedran pianohacker: have a nice time :) 21:14 gmcharlt bbl 22:19 vedran I have difficulties reaching cpan.cpantesters.org during installation. does anyone have teh same issue right now. any advise? 22:48 SirStan use a different source/ 22:52 vedran SirStan: ok, it works somehow 23:57 vedran SirStan: I installed Koha on my laptop too so I can present it on various workshops :)) 00:01 pianohacker Ah very nice 00:02 vedran pianohacker: teh second installation went smooth. I use opensuse 11.0 and it went very well :) 00:02 pianohacker good 00:06 vedran pianohacker: I will these days start to learn how to use KOha and probably from time to time ask questions here. I hope this is OK. 00:07 pianohacker Hey, that's what we're here fore 00:07 pianohacker *for , rather 00:08 vedran pianohacker: great :)) it is 2.00 AM here so I will go to sleep , but I will be back here these days. :)) 00:08 pianohacker Cool 00:08 vedran cya 00:08 vedran :) 02:52 pianohacker good night 03:22 Amit hi chris, Jo, mason 03:22 Amit chris: Cong! south africa out of T-20 world cup 03:25 chris :-) 03:25 Amit chris: what about today match Srilanka vs WI 03:26 Jo Hi Amit 03:26 Jo Hi Chris 03:27 chris could go either way 03:27 chris hi Jo 03:27 Jo hey can i ask yuou a question about koha? 03:27 chris yep 03:27 Jo our issues/circ linux box died. 03:28 chris stink, hardware fail? 03:28 Jo after discussing it with si, i got a new aaa box with xp on it, and a new epson receipt printer. 03:28 Jo yep. 03:28 chris cool 03:28 Jo day before baby was born 03:28 Jo i have the epson printer attached to the new circ box, it prints fine, and is shared on the network. 03:28 chris right 03:29 Jo the bit i can't do is get koha circ module to print to the new printer. 03:29 chris do you know the name of its print queue? 03:29 Jo its a local printer on the new circ box. 03:29 Jo so its share name? 03:29 Jo (was supposed to be a newtork printer with an ethernet jack but turns out not to have one) 03:29 chris if so you go to http://koha.library.org.nz/cgi-bin/koha/admin/printers.pl 03:30 chris ahh no it needs to be set up in the printqueue 03:30 Jo (not sure i understand what you are telling me sorry :) 03:31 chris can you print to it from the workroom 03:31 chris the same way you can to say the returns one? 03:31 Jo ah cool. 03:31 chris or to the laser printer? 03:31 chris if you can it will be the name .. see that url? 03:31 Jo i see that url 03:31 Jo and the list of printers. 03:31 chris the old one used to be called leviss 03:31 Jo yep. 03:31 chris you need to change that to whatever the new one is called 03:32 Jo so i need to add a new one 03:32 chris or add a new one 03:32 Jo so edit levin issues 03:32 chris yeah try that 03:32 Jo may have to add new i think .. 03:32 chris righto 03:33 Jo Thanks for helping) 03:35 chris did it work/ 03:36 Jo no yet 03:37 Jo the pc is called CIRCASUS 03:37 Jo the printer sharename is EpsonT70 03:37 chris hmmm 03:37 Jo so is the path:CIRCASUS/EpsonT70 03:37 chris you might need si to set up a printqueue for it 03:37 chris and tell you what the queue is called 03:37 Jo i thought so .. 03:37 chris and then that is what goes there 03:38 Jo but he's just a new baby girl ;) 03:38 chris yep 03:38 Jo i can access the print queue from my desktop 03:38 chris so you can add printers to it? 03:38 Jo http://192.168.10.20:631/ 03:38 Jo is that the kind of thing it should look like 03:38 Jo (we should off channel :) 03:38 chris cant see that 03:38 chris thats an internal ip 03:39 Jo yes i can 03:39 chris i cant :) 03:39 Jo lol 03:39 chris only ppl on your lan can see that 03:39 Jo ok 03:39 Jo phew ... 03:39 Jo realised after i hit enter that that was dum thing to do 03:39 chris but yes, you might be able to make a new queue there 03:39 chris for that printer 03:39 chris and then add that queue to koha 03:40 Jo i'm looking at the pattern for the other printers to see the pattern 03:41 chris i think the path you had above looks right 03:41 chris well rightish :) 03:42 chris can you see how the old leviss one is set up? 03:42 brendan heya amit, jo, chris 03:42 Amit heya brendan 03:43 Jo yep - copying that one now. 03:43 Jo its asking what kind of device 03:43 Jo i'm picking its an lpd/lpr host or printer 03:43 chris worth a crack 03:43 Jo or it could be a windows printer or SAMBA 03:44 Jo probably the latter 03:44 chris yeah 03:44 chris if you can see it from your windows machine 03:44 Jo now it wants a device uri 03:44 chris then its likely to be SAMBA 03:45 chris im thinking \\CIRCASUS\EpsonT70 03:45 Jo yep me too 03:46 Jo whats a PPD file? 03:46 chris its the printer description file 03:46 Jo like a driver file? 03:47 chris yep like that 03:47 Jo ok - i have that 03:47 chris you might not need it, you can often just pick the generic 03:50 Jo its droppinmg me into an admin screen 03:52 chris sounds plausible 03:52 chris is there an option to print a test? 03:53 chris actaully dont do that 03:53 chris if it works it will try and print a page to the receipt printer .. which will waste a bunch of pape 03:53 chris r 03:53 Jo sure. 03:53 Jo just trying it again 03:53 chris did it give you a queuename? 03:54 Jo no . 03:54 Jo its giving examples of a format for the uri (using the samba option) 03:54 Jo examples: http://hostname:631/ipp/ 03:54 Jo http://hostname:631/ipp/port1 03:54 Jo or ipp://hostname/ipp/ 03:54 Jo ipp://hostname/ipp/port1 03:54 Jo or lpd://hostname/queue 03:54 Jo or socket://hostname 03:54 Jo socket://hostname:9100 03:55 Jo i think it might be lpd://CIRCASUS/EpsonT70 03:55 Jo (we need a windows expert ... 03:55 Jo Brendan and Amit are clever boys - come on lads - step up!) 03:56 Amit hmm Jo 03:56 Jo Hi 03:56 Jo the spac to enter the devioce uri has smb preentered 03:56 Amit sure i will come 03:56 chris ahh 03:56 chris smb://CIRCASUS/EpsonT70 03:56 Jo (thats a clue yes?) 03:56 chris try that 03:58 Jo ok -0 this is driving me batty 03:58 Jo i have to choose a make manufacture: i select epson. 03:58 Jo and then continue 03:59 chris yep 03:59 Jo and now we wait ... 03:59 Jo and still waiting 03:59 Jo f i sent you privately the url and login and password etc to carnaby can you acces this? 03:59 chris see my message 03:59 chris :) 04:13 brendan sorry Jo -- off on another computer 04:14 brendan looks like chris is on top of it 04:20 Jo well we are trying .. 04:32 Amit hi greenmang0 04:33 greenmang0 Amit: 06:08 Amit chris: DPL catalog is available is on hindi please select hindi languages 06:32 brendan Good night #koha 06:38 Amit hi nicomo 06:39 nicomo hello Amit 06:39 nicomo 'morning all 08:00 slef morning 08:01 slef Kivutar: yes, I read it. My comment was 20 minutes before you mentioned it, unless bugzilla's timezones have got me again :) 08:15 Amit hi slef 09:08 chris evening 09:10 hdl_laptop hi chris 09:40 davi__ hi 10:11 Amit hi davi 10:13 mahesh_c Hello 10:13 Amit hello mahesh 10:14 mahesh_c Can i use koha with SSHA encrypted password (in ldap)? 10:14 davi hi Amit 10:15 mahesh_c Hello Amit .. 10:32 Amit hi galen 10:32 gmcharlt hi Amit 10:46 Elwell_ right - has anyone done any developer analysis of the svn / git logs? 10:46 gmcharlt Elwell_: concerning what? 10:46 gmcharlt hdl_laptop: about? 10:46 Elwell_ feeling up for a challenge since I managed to produce http://andrewelwell.blogspot.com/2009/06/svn-stats-munging.html this morning 10:47 Elwell_ showing which developers stay with a project and which (ahem, like me) chuck in a single patch and give up 10:47 gmcharlt there's still time, Elwell_ :) 10:48 gmcharlt I haven't done that sort of timeline analysis 10:48 gmcharlt but would be interesting 10:51 Elwell_ OK I'll stick it on the TODO_list_from_hell then 10:51 Elwell_ (guess who spent this morning hacking on a script rather than Real Work :-) 10:51 gmcharlt heh 10:51 gmcharlt you know, you got a bad deal if you sold your soul for a TODO list ;) 10:52 Elwell_ rememberthemilk. Nuff Said. 11:06 hdl_laptop gmcharlt: ? 11:06 gmcharlt hdl_laptop: did you see my comment for bug 3334? 11:06 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3334 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, henridamien@koha-fr.org, NEW, circ/hold-transfer-slip.pl missing in 3.0.x release tarballs 11:07 hdl_laptop No I had not 11:08 hdl_laptop But my patch fixes the problem. 11:09 gmcharlt true, but I think the patch can be improved slightly before it's submitted for HEAD and 3.0.x 11:12 hdl_laptop here you are 11:20 Amit hi hdl 11:56 Amit by galen have a nice weekend