Time Nick Message 11:18 gmcharlt g'night 11:17 chris night 10:10 cait hi Kivutar 09:58 Kivutar and all 09:58 Kivutar hello chris :) 09:58 chris hi Kivutar 09:49 cait :) 09:47 chris as long as we beat australia, england and south africa :) 09:47 chris i dont mind losing to france 09:47 cait ouch 09:47 chris yep, just watched france beat new zealand, first time in 15 years they have beaten us in new zealand 09:46 cait and you? rugby? 09:44 cait not really, doing some work for my distance study 09:44 chris got plans for the weekend? 09:43 cait hi chris 09:43 chris hiya cait 01:31 munin chris: Quote #5: "<jwagner> Why is it every Koha rock I turn over produces a zillion (metaphorical) ants, each with a new question????" (added by kf at 01:13 PM, June 12, 2009) 01:31 chris @quote random 01:13 chris yep pretty cool 00:39 gmcharlt chris: as you see, in PMs right away if target user is logged in 23:59 munin brendan: The operation succeeded. 23:59 brendan @later tell brendan - testing is fun 23:55 chris ok, off for a bit 23:49 chris d 23:49 chris yep that worke 23:49 chris test 23:47 munin brendan: The operation succeeded. 23:47 brendan @later tell chris - testing is fun 23:47 brendan chris let's give it a try 23:42 chris gmcharlt: does later work the next time munin sees them, or only on login? 23:08 munin gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. 23:08 gmcharlt @later tell wizzyrea your mailer is not being kind to you today - resubmission of the reports-home patch is inserting additional line breaks, corrupting the patch 23:07 gmcharlt heh 23:07 chris shes probably out playing putt putt wearing lime green 23:05 gmcharlt wizzyrea: about? 23:04 gmcharlt atz: testing stopwords patch now 23:02 pianohacker Good night, #koha 22:46 atz yeah, the promoter has good taste all-around 22:45 chris atz: looks like a good gig 22:41 chris http://www.amplifier.co.nz/default,17058.sm 22:41 chris christchurch 22:41 chris i lose 22:40 chris im guessing she must be from auckland 22:40 chris hehe 22:40 pianohacker Hmm. Fourth result for /msg munin google bachelorette is "MIDGET MARIACHI BAND NEEDED!!!" 22:39 chris ohh really? 22:38 atz http://bencopresents.com/2009/06/12/bonnie-prince-billy/ 22:38 atz i'll be seeing them (her) tonight opening for will oldham tonight.... the listing said they were from NZ 22:37 chris hmmm doesnt ring a bell 22:37 atz do you know the band "Bachelorette" ? 22:35 atz greets chris 22:35 chris hey atz :) 22:35 atz gmcharlt: resent stopwords cleanup 21:35 munin brendan: The current temperature in Near Mission - TC, Santa Barbara, California is 21.8°C (2:34 PM PDT on June 12, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa (Steady). 21:35 brendan @wunder Santa Barbara, CA 21:24 pianohacker minor segmentation fault: What was the reasoning behind making circ/pendingreserves.pl default to yesterday, again? 21:00 chris its certainly not 2000 anymore :) 21:00 chris i love it how usually before i even get to read a mail on the koha list anymore, someone has already answered it 20:56 wizzyrea erg, <curses> git! 20:56 wizzyrea then it's not so good 20:55 wizzyrea it's a good thing.. unless they laugh at you 20:55 chris thats his thing :-) 20:55 chris my dad tells stories that are plausible, but when you go to school and repeat them, people laugh 20:54 wizzyrea bad puns are a mark of pride in my family :P 20:53 brendan true 20:53 chris its so bad its good 20:53 chris lol 20:53 brendan that's a bad pun - wizzyrea 20:53 wizzyrea and we'd have a cafe that served cleopatra's caesar salad 20:53 wizzyrea I always wanted to run a mini golf store... it would be egypt themed and we'd call it Tut's Putts 20:52 wizzyrea Ah, native bird and plant themed mini golf! Nice! 20:52 chris between/around his sculptures 20:51 chris yep 20:51 wizzyrea this is the guy with the mini golf? 20:51 chris http://www.carlucciland.co.nz/gallery/gal2.htm 20:51 chris hes a bit loopy, but kinda awesome 20:50 chris he ran for mayor 20:50 chris http://www.carlucciland.co.nz/ 20:49 chris heh 20:49 wizzyrea as long as you're not keeping score :P 20:49 wizzyrea well hey, that makes it happy for sure 20:49 chris some crazy guy in happy valley has built a mini golf course on his land 20:48 chris same with real golf 20:48 chris oh yeah, id be less angry if there was no score 20:48 chris get in the effin hole already!!!!!! 20:47 chris ohhh i always end up getting really angry at mini golf 20:47 wizzyrea yea 20:47 chris wizzyrea: putt putt = mini golf? 20:47 chris gmcharlt: hehe thats pretty funny 20:47 wizzyrea hehe it's ok. I'm the only person I know whose greatest ambition on their birthday is to partake in the yearly putt putt extravaganza 20:46 chris wizzyrea: i only got the lime green bit right :) 20:45 gmcharlt heh - Ask Metafilter as a source of III support: http://ask.metafilter.com/124641/Illuminate-the-dark-arts-of-OPAC-searching-of-MARC-fields 20:44 wizzyrea and I"m married to him :P 20:44 wizzyrea I can think of only one person that knows the answer to all of those questions (besides my mom) 20:44 wizzyrea chris: not yet ;) 20:41 chris heh 20:36 munin ryan: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3219 critical, P2, ---, galen.charlton@liblime.com, ASSIGNED, malformed or missing amazon content can cause fatal error in both opac and staff interfaces. 20:35 ryan @bug 3219 20:35 gmcharlt http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrFgRAcr0jg 20:33 chris damnit where is my robot that makes me coffee already, i was promised the future would have them 20:28 chris hmm 1 out of 5 correct ... it seems i dont know you very well wizzyrea :) 20:18 rhcl Hi Chris 20:15 wizzyrea mornin chris 20:15 danny morning chris 20:15 gmcharlt hi 20:14 chris morning 20:05 gmcharlt +! to -nosanitize 20:05 gmcharlt fredericd: interesting idea 19:46 fredericd YAML::XS? storing YAML MARC::Record in DB rather than marcxml representation? 19:45 fredericd Make me feel also like MARC::Record would benefit to be refactored. It is incredibly slow. Serializing /deserializing MARC::Record in XML is obviously not a good option. 19:44 fredericd I've just use it on a 230,000 biblio records DB. rebuild_zebra.pl -a -b takes 45min normally. With --marcxml option, same rebuild takes 15min. 19:43 fredericd gmcharlt: Maybe a -nosanitize parameter should be better? Combined with -x 18:27 wizzyrea k ty 18:27 gmcharlt wizzyrea: just the reports 18:27 wizzyrea (sry for the inconvenience >.<) 18:26 wizzyrea just the reports, or the suggestions patch too? 18:25 gmcharlt thx 18:25 wizzyrea ok I"ll try again 18:25 wizzyrea doh 18:22 gmcharlt and got mangled 18:22 gmcharlt it looks like they were sent via the OS X mail client 18:22 gmcharlt wizzyrea: I can't apply your reports patches 17:55 gmcharlt also, I'm thinking that at least basic XML well-formedness checking may still be needed 17:54 gmcharlt it will need some work - like -x, doesn't work for auths & DOM 17:54 gmcharlt hi fredericd 17:40 pianohacker No problem 17:40 joetho THanks jessie 17:40 joetho that doesn't sound like "orbitz" at all, not even in my cluttered head. 17:40 joetho YES! 17:39 pianohacker joetho: There's pastebin 17:35 joetho I keep thinking orbitz and that is for plane tickets. 17:35 joetho it generates a URL to send to your helper 17:34 joetho anybody remember the name of that website where you can post blocks of code for others to help with? 17:34 joetho hello- 17:33 fredericd slef: to HEAD 17:33 slef bbl 17:32 slef fredericd: wouldn't be applied to what? 17:31 munin slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3301 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jmf@liblime.com, NEW, rebuild_zebra is slow 17:31 slef @bug 3301 17:31 slef setting PATCH-Sent on 3301 17:18 fredericd http://lists.koha.org/pipermail/koha-patches/2009-June/003650.html 17:18 fredericd Any reason why this patch wouldn't be applied? 17:18 fredericd gmcharlt: hello 16:29 pianohacker bye 16:29 kf starting weekend now - bye #koha :) 16:27 pianohacker </lazyweb> 16:26 pianohacker Hmm. Does anyone know what the purpose of circ/billing.pl is ? (came upon it by accident) 16:01 slef found it... it was next to where the phone was :) 16:01 jwagner slef, at least you know where your ear is :-) 16:01 slef next question, where's my earpiece 16:00 slef ouch 15:59 gmcharlt just that kind of day - just had to call my cell phone to find it 15:55 schuster Bless YOU! My boss is going on Vacation next week so trying to get as much done before she leaves as possible. 15:54 gmcharlt schuster: working on it, will have numbers for you today 15:54 schuster gmcharlt - I've sent you and daniel 3 emails about enhancement projects. It's end of year and trying to spend money ASAP... would appreciate Estimates to work from. 15:53 mahesh_c yes,Failed.. the userPassword is stored using SSHA hashing , is it make any problem ? 15:51 gmcharlt have you tried with other accounts on your LDAP directory? 15:51 gmcharlt mahesh_c: both logs are simply saying that the comparison is false 15:41 mahesh_c logs at http://pastebin.com/m5cb038c2 15:37 gmcharlt ? 15:37 gmcharlt mahesh_c: any interesting messages in the Apache error log 15:36 mahesh_c auth_by_bind also saying same ! 15:35 gmcharlt mahesh_c: one quick tip - if you're running Koha from Git HEAD, try switching on the auth_by_bind option 15:35 mahesh_c my ldap db is the same for samba and unix authentication 15:34 mahesh_c its always says "ldap_compare" failed 15:34 mahesh_c i have problem with koha to ldap authentication 15:34 mahesh_c hello 15:10 jwagner Your best seems pretty good :-) 15:10 wizzyrea jwagner: I do my best 15:06 atz my more curious cat got himself locked in the garage overnight... found him slightly skinnier this morning 14:59 jwagner wizzyrea, thanks. Saves me some work on my to-do list :-) 14:56 kf or something I did 14:55 wizzyrea working on a couple of niggly things today :) 14:55 wizzyrea haven't sent it but will 14:55 wizzyrea jwagner: yes ma'am 14:54 kf thx for listening, just wanted to make sure, its not a problem with our installation 14:51 hdl_laptop and testing more than once if possible 14:51 hdl_laptop thanks 14:50 gmcharlt kf: thanks for catching this 14:49 gmcharlt testing++ 14:49 gmcharlt well, I think we can all agree on something: 14:48 slef Elwell: careful. We'll upset someone. 14:48 Elwell gmcharlt: whoa! hang on, you'll be doing things like regression tests soon :-) 14:47 slef kf: the sort that you'd wear a brown bag over your head to hide 14:47 slef gmcharlt: you'll be expecting RMs to run make test next 14:47 slef kf: so called because it fixes an embarrassing wart 14:46 kf slef: brown bag release? 14:45 slef so it gets to be a brown bag release, who cares? 14:45 gmcharlt yep, 3.0.3 14:45 slef call it 3.00.03 14:45 jwagner wizzyrea, for ages I've been meaning to put a direct link to Saved Reports from the main menu. Can't quite tell -- does your fix do that? 14:45 gmcharlt but it does require a new package IMO 14:45 gmcharlt 3.0.2.1 or something 14:45 gmcharlt hdl_laptop: you'll have to bump up the version number 14:45 slef so does the affect all 3.00.02 copies or just some? 14:45 gmcharlt looks like shouldn't have been cherry-picked to 3.0.x 14:45 hdl_laptop gmcharlt: do you have any objection to that ? 14:44 kf thx! 14:44 gmcharlt slef: c16d624f8f2fcf4433fc8ac90ee53ebe9a736594 in head 14:44 wizzyrea kf: me too :D 14:44 hdl_laptop and relase a new package 14:44 kf wizzyrea: I like the idea of less clicks 14:43 slef Joe's cleanup patch? 14:42 hdl_laptop will update that then. 14:42 munin gmcharlt: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2991 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, sedwards@alloycomputing.com, REOPENED, Request hold on multiple items at one time 14:42 gmcharlt @bug 2991 14:42 wizzyrea thanks 14:42 wizzyrea I'll add the dictionary and call it good 14:42 slef gmcharlt: bug/patch id? 14:42 wizzyrea main guided reports page, that is 14:41 gmcharlt thus making Joe's cleanup patch dependent on that enhancement 14:41 slef Fw http://identi.ca/lisnews Amazon may launch the Kindle in the UK this year .. http://bit.ly/IbTaS 14:41 wizzyrea it's ok, I think you'd still need that main page, technically we're duplicating content but I'm ok with that 14:41 gmcharlt the variables in question are from sedwards' multi-hold enhacnement 14:41 hdl_laptop git checkout --track -b stable origin/3.0.x is ok. 14:41 gmcharlt hdl_laptop: I'm getting the same compilation errors in opac-reserve.pl direct from the tar package 14:40 hdl_laptop if not : 14:40 kf no 14:40 hdl_laptop kf: have you done any customization on opac-reserve.pl ? 14:40 slef wizzyrea: sorry, my bad. I thought we'd still need to click through to the list of guided reports. 14:40 slef kf: I'm not sure, sorry. hdl_laptop seems to know what the problem is. 14:40 wizzyrea I think that's what I did? but I did't link to dictionary... I could add that 14:39 kf slef / hdl: what can we do to make it work in our test nistallation now? without starting from scratch? 14:39 wizzyrea 1s, looking 14:39 slef with a link through to view-dictionary? 14:38 slef ok, cool. Why don't we add the list of guided reports from /cgi-bin/koha/reports/guided_reports.pl to reports-home? 14:38 wizzyrea you can still get to the dictionary the old way 14:37 wizzyrea screenshot 14:37 slef wizzyrea: is that a screenshot or is that something I'm not seeing? 14:37 wizzyrea yea 14:37 gmcharlt fine with me 14:37 gmcharlt adding that to reports-home? 14:37 wizzyrea but I wondered if anyone had strong opinions about it 14:37 wizzyrea so I wanted to make this http://www.screencast.com/users/lizrea/folders/Jing/media/6582f726-2ab1-4d76-ad90-52c0c65c9c20 change 14:36 wizzyrea I (and others in my office) didn't like that you had to click through to the guided reports 14:36 slef why doesn't koha complain if zebra doesn't answer? 14:36 wizzyrea ok, i'm looking at the reports-home template 14:36 slef once I debugged a zebrasrv that had stopped 14:36 kf ok, I will tell my colleague (he is responsible for installation) 14:36 slef hold worked fine on my local copy 14:35 hdl_laptop I had updated that before releasing the package. 14:35 hdl_laptop kf: I think it is a git rebase that you failed to do. 14:35 wizzyrea yay ok 14:35 kf so its a general problem or one with our installation? 14:34 gmcharlt wizzyrea: individual opinions are more likely, but go ahead ;) 14:34 wizzyrea may I ask your collective opinions about something? 14:34 gmcharlt hdl_laptop: looks like problem is a bad merge 14:34 kf had to ask, its a git install 14:34 gmcharlt slef: that be the one 14:33 slef what was 3.00.02's release patchlevel? 14:33 slef Koha 3.00.02.012, Koha DB 3.0002012 14:33 gmcharlt kf: if so, there are a couple commits to revert that should get you working 14:32 gmcharlt kf: are you running from a git install, by any chance? 14:32 kf Tried when logged in and when logged out, error is the same 14:31 kf yes 14:31 slef just search for a book and try to hold it? 14:31 kf thx slef 14:30 slef ok, let me try a hold on my local koha 14:29 kf oh g 14:29 kf http://pastebin.ca/1457785 14:28 kf slef: added myself to irc regulars - error message follows :) 14:26 slef kf: can you put it in http://pastebin.ca ? 14:25 kf somebody using 3.0.2? tried to make an hold in OPAC and got loooong error message :( 14:25 slef Anyone, please feel free to add your name and a short description to http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=irc_regulars 14:24 slef whois rhcl 13:13 kf hah, THX galen :) 13:13 munin kf: The operation succeeded. Quote #5 added. 13:13 kf @quote add <jwagner> Why is it every Koha rock I turn over produces a zillion (metaphorical) ants, each with a new question???? 13:13 gmcharlt anybody can register themselves with munin that way 13:12 gmcharlt kf: then the @quote add will work for you 13:12 gmcharlt kf: then do /msg munin identify kf your_password 13:11 gmcharlt kf: do a /msg munin register kf some_password_you_make_up 13:11 kf ;) 13:11 kf chris added one of mine... not sure if this is a good sign 13:11 gmcharlt kf: hang on, I'll post instrutions 13:10 kf ok, dont understand him, but I get it that I cant do it 13:10 jwagner Hey! That would be my second quote in the list!!! I must be doing something right.... 13:10 munin kf: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). 13:10 kf @quote add < jwagner> Why is it every Koha rock I turn over produces a zillion (metaphorical) ants, each with a new question???? 13:09 kf @quote add <jwagner> Why is it every Koha rock I turn over produces a zillion (metaphorical) ants, each with a new question???? 13:09 kf perhaps bug nicole about it 13:08 kf http://koha.org/documentation/manual/3.0/serials/managing-serial-claims - note at bottom: unfinished 13:08 Elwell still, at least I can hang up my koha file for a while -- 'We are not currently planning to put our catalogue online, but you are welcome to come in and browse here in the Library. 13:07 jwagner Pity Chris went off to bed -- I can see a new T-shirt design to compete with his purple blob.... 13:07 kf oh, I really know that feeling... 13:06 jwagner Why is it every Koha rock I turn over produces a zillion (metaphorical) ants, each with a new question???? 13:05 kf wondering myself now 13:05 kf sorry 13:05 jwagner OK, thanks. We'll take a look at that manual as well. 13:03 kf I think its not in overdues.pl, but it should do something when clicking on send letter... atm i can only export data for reclamation to excel 13:01 jwagner I couldn't see how to set a trigger for them. Maybe more like holds? That uses a notice file but doesn't go through the script? 13:00 kf I dont think that claims and routing list can be sent automatically yet 12:59 kf There is an old manual for serials http://www.kohadocs.org/ , but its not up to date 12:59 |Lupin| till soon, everybody 12:58 jwagner I didn't find any serials "how-to" entries on notices or claims on the manual site. Any other resources? 12:58 kf when receiving the item 12:57 andrew nick Elwell 12:57 kf hm. I routing list letter is in notices, but I thought you would print it 12:57 andrew better - I'd joined the freenode version. Thought it was a bit empty :-) 12:53 |Lupin| bye chris 12:53 jwagner I haven't done much with it. Am I correct in thinking that both serial claims and routing lists get handled via notices? If so, do those get processed/sent by the overdues.pl cron? Or is there another script to run? 12:52 kf I'm no expert in serials, but played aroud with module for a presentation - perhaps I can give some hints 12:51 jwagner G'night 12:51 kf night chris 12:51 kf hey g 12:51 chris night all 12:51 chris ok, its bedtime for me, hopefully someone is around to answer your serials question jwagner 12:50 munin chris: Quote #2: "<jwagner> Hope springs eternal in little kitty hearts. Better watch the doors :-)" (added by gmcharlt at 04:04 PM, June 03, 2009) 12:50 chris @quote random 12:50 munin chris: The operation succeeded. Quote #4 added. 12:50 chris @quote add < kf> I often get asked: You have to study to be a librarian? perhaps MARC was invented to answer it ;) 12:49 kf I often get asked: You have to study to be a librarian? perhaps MARC was invented to answer it ;) 12:45 jwagner Someone around for a couple of serials questions? 12:41 |Lupin| so exciting... 12:41 chris full of paradoxes and blackholes :-) 12:40 chris an alternate reality :) 12:40 hdl_laptop e 12:40 hdl_laptop even a world, maybe a univers 12:38 |Lupin| library science seems to be a word in itself... 12:38 |Lupin| I think I understand things a bit better 12:38 |Lupin| the discussion continued on the french channel 12:38 |Lupin| and thanks 12:38 |Lupin| np 12:29 nicomo sorry, wrong channel 12:29 nicomo opac-user.pl 12:29 magnusenger That's the way of the MARC: http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd00x.html 12:21 |Lupin| slef: actually it's _in_ Paris. Jussieu is the name of one of the campuses 12:19 slef |Lupin|: I thought jussieu.fr was near Paris 12:18 |Lupin| marc question: is it correct that the field tags are sparse ? like in block 0, there is 001, 005, 010, so that not allnumbers correspond to some field. Is this true ? 12:16 chris if you wanted to fix them, and send patches, we would be very very happy :) 12:16 chris yeah 12:13 jatillaso we try to run under PerlRegistry, but we get a lot of error 500 12:06 chris :) 12:05 |Lupin| actually there is a variant of football (could be any team game actually) where each time a player from team 1 makes a pint he goes in team 2, and a player from team 2 goes in team 1. I like this idea 12:04 |Lupin| I'll keep that one in mind 12:04 |Lupin| :-))) 12:01 chris :) 12:01 chris in football, the fans do 12:01 chris in rugby the players fight 12:01 magnusenger gmcharlt: and the prize could be a Pearl 12:01 paul_p that's a good starter :D 12:01 |Lupin| paul_p: thanks foryour kind invitation. I'm not a rugby fan, but I think I like the rugby supporters much more than the football ones.