Time Nick Message 11:42 kf good night chris 11:40 chris ok time for sleep 11:38 chris good idea 11:38 kf but I told him to write to Koha, we had similar problems, but I dont know how we solved it and colleague is still on vacation 11:37 chris yep thats good to hear :) 11:37 kf always exciting to find out about other people in Germany experimenting with Koha :) 11:36 chris ahh 11:35 kf problems with icu.xml and Koha 11:35 kf got a mail from German koha list .) 11:33 chris yep, mum and 2 kids are asleep, just catching up on tons of emails 11:32 kf hi chris, still awake? 11:32 chris hi 11:27 kf hi 10:45 litarena hi 09:38 CGI452 hi 06:38 kf good morning #koha 06:30 Elwell nice comment about sth->finish. I must admit I hadn't read the man pages recently :-) 05:55 Amit http://kohav3demo.osslabs.biz 05:54 Amit chris: see this and select hindi http://kohav3demo.osslabs.bi 05:30 Amit on the site 05:30 Amit see some indic search button 05:29 Amit chris: check http://delhipubliclibrary.in/ 04:35 Amit no i m going to my home for 1 week first delhi then dehradun 04:32 chris for work? 04:20 Amit chris: Today i m going to Delhi 04:15 Amit hi selfish Man 04:03 Amit hmm... thanks 04:01 honey I saw that ur opac hindi translation has been completed....great 04:00 honey Hi amit 04:00 Amit hi honey 03:43 mason i wonder how much effort it would take to get the title/author fields in the import_biblio records to be indexed, and searchable with zebra... 03:40 mason hiy amit 03:39 Amit hi mason 03:39 mason hello peoples 03:38 chris for Hindi yes 03:37 Amit chris: I think this is first 100% translation 03:35 Amit ok 03:33 chris but people can at least download the .po file until 3.0.3 03:32 chris unfortunately you just missed the 3.0.2 release 03:32 chris cool 03:32 Amit chris: i have completed 100% translation koha (OPAC) in Hindi 03:31 Amit good morning 03:31 Amit hi brendan, chris, mason 03:18 chris kahu and I even got an ice cream each and played at the park 03:17 richard yeah. it does look really nice out there 03:16 richard hey chris 03:16 chris afternoon 01:08 IrmaCalyx Is anyone online? 01:08 IrmaCalyx G'day #koha 23:59 munin gmcharlt: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2502 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, galen.charlton@liblime.com, RESOLVED FIXED, Placing a hold via staff interface gives errant warning of patron account expired. 23:58 gmcharlt @bug 2502 23:57 munin gmcharlt: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2501 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard@myacpl.org, RESOLVED FIXED, Spelling Error - Serials Summary Page 23:57 gmcharlt @bug 2501 23:55 munin gmcharlt: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2505 blocker, P3, ---, galen.charlton@liblime.com, NEW, enable Perl warnings in all modules and scripts 23:55 gmcharlt @bug 2505 23:52 munin gmcharlt: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2499 normal, P3, ---, chris.nighswonger@liblime.com, ASSIGNED, Improvement on text wrapping algorithm needed 23:52 gmcharlt @bug 2499 23:32 gmcharlt another test 23:31 gmcharlt test message 23:23 gmcharlt testing logging 21:24 schuster Well off to pickup the kids! Their last day of school... My oldest is now a 3rd grader at 8 years old 9 in october... they do grow fast. 21:23 schuster Much better than the year we opened 3-4 at a time... Our neighbor city is now doing that but they are doing about 5 a year! 21:14 joetho We are adding two libraries later this summer and that is plenty for me. 21:13 joetho So, you turn 68 next year, then 69 the next year, then 70 the year after that... 21:12 schuster doo... sorry second one on the list not sure what I was looking for. 21:12 schuster joetho - I'm on that page, but don't see anything about a consortium list? 21:10 schuster We'll be 68 next year, then 69, then 70! One a year then we will see what happens. 21:09 joetho 67 sounds like a lot. 21:09 schuster OK I'll check it out when I have a few minutes... or now since you provided me the link! 21:09 joetho http://koha.org/about/get-involved/mailing-lists/mailing-listsg 21:09 joetho It is now listed on the Koha listserv page 21:08 schuster Yep... different beast all together! 67 branches/locations... 21:08 ShunDi joetho: exactly my thoughts ... 21:08 joetho Hmmm. I didn't think of that. School District= branches. 21:08 schuster Joetho - what do you need me to do for registration? 21:07 schuster I'm technically not a consortium, but like to lurk... 21:07 joetho one and the same 21:07 schuster Joetho - yes I did, is this a different consortium list from the Incolsa one? 21:07 schuster Question for those RSS guru's... Is there a way to do a search limiting by date added in the OPAC? 21:07 joetho schuster: did you get my email the other day abou the consortium listserv? 21:06 schuster FYI South Central is Classic Dynix moving to Koha...;) 21:05 joetho I am reading up on this a bit and I don't see how the icu chain would affect only one search. It seems like it would be an all or none. 21:00 ShunDi don't get it how the chain breaks only this search ... 20:56 ShunDi kw: works, too 20:55 joetho ah 20:55 ShunDi if I remove the icu chain keyword search works normal again 20:55 joetho what happens if you add kw: instead of kw= ?? 20:54 ShunDi zebrasrv gives reports "Search biblios ERROR 120" if you leave out the kw= ... can't figure out why only the keyword search is broken 20:51 joetho ShunDi: I saw this question earlier and I have been thinking about this. 20:50 ShunDi does anybody have an idea why the keyword search doesn't return any results unless you add kw= to the search term? 20:44 chris heh 20:44 wizzyrea someone's gotta muck about with the nerdcore aspect of it :P 20:43 wizzyrea I honestly didn't have a lot to do with automation when we were on unicorn... much more for me to do with koha, and I like it. 20:42 wizzyrea HA 20:42 chris :) 20:42 wizzyrea you know, the more I look at the word unicorn, the weirder it looks 20:42 chris ohh cool, i knew you were cool 20:41 wizzyrea nekls came from unicorn 20:40 richard sure is. actually any day when it's not blowing a screaming southerly at this time of the year is nice :) 20:39 chris hi richard, another nice day today eh? 20:37 richard hi 20:32 atz yeah, true 20:32 chris you are probably right, its always nice to get a sirsi/dynix one that isnt moving because horizon has been killed :) 20:30 atz i'm pretty sure we've migrated ppl, but maybe I'm just thinking staff... since david was a unicorn admin like me before 20:30 atz that doesn't seem likely to be the first 20:29 chris http://www.librarytechnology.org/ltg-displayarticle.pl?RC=13764 20:29 chris library shifting from unicorn to koha .. i think that might be the first unicorn to koha? 20:29 atz chris: the evergreen one? 20:29 atz git++ # git's not allowed to be lowest karma 20:29 chris did you see the ptfs-europe announcement 20:29 chris heh 20:28 atz sirsi-- 20:28 munin chris: Highest karma: "gmcharlt" (3), "koha" (2), and "patches_from_india" (1). Lowest karma: "patches_from_india" (1), "pianohacker" (1), and "git" (1). 20:28 chris @karma 20:27 pianohacker bye, all 20:22 chris http://www.oss.asia/ <--interesting 20:14 chris wizzyrea: its parental too, so you can split it, i could take 7 she take 7, or i could take 14, or 10-4 etc 20:14 chris http://www.visionofhumanity.org/gpi/results/rankings.php 20:13 wizzyrea <3 NZ, so, so very much 20:13 chris still getting used to this new routine, im on 4 weeks paid leave from work, and laurel is on 14 weeks parental leave (paid for by the govt) its been 2 years (since i worked at home) since I have spent this many consecutive days at home hehe 20:02 chris so people are at least aware thats happening 20:02 chris probably need to add that to the help 20:00 chris true 20:00 gmcharlt or rather, all of the ones that you have transliterated 20:00 gmcharlt there is a downside, though - means that all your OPAC searches pass through Google's servers 20:00 chris sweet 19:59 chris patches_from_india++ 19:59 gmcharlt the google API also supports transliterating Arabic as well as the Indic languages 19:58 gmcharlt chris: yep 19:58 chris A system preference - GoogleIndicTransliteration can be used to turn on this feature. 19:58 chris +temporarily turn on/off the feature by using "ctrl +g". 19:58 chris User has to enter a word in english and press space or return to transliterate the word. The destination language can be selected from a drop down list. User can 19:57 chris ohh that is pretty cool 19:54 wizzyrea but yes, sometimes booze is required 19:54 wizzyrea well I like my liver, so I avoid doing both at the same time... 19:54 jwagner Some of us bypass the Tylenol and head for the booze.... (At least in our dreams) 19:54 wizzyrea chris: ty!! just got it today 19:53 wizzyrea come on, it never gives you a headache? ;) 19:53 wizzyrea :D 19:51 rhcl Liz: is what way is there a relationship, if any, between the xtra strength Tylenol and the Koha cup? 19:50 brendan hi chris 19:50 rhcl Hi Chris 19:49 chris nice mug wizzyrea 19:49 chris morning 19:00 wizzyrea hehe http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=451151&l=887d54371b&id=1078323327 18:44 wizzyrea pianohacker: yessir 18:34 ShunDi ok in verbose mode it says error 120 18:31 ShunDi error logs are clean so far ... 18:25 pianohacker If it's not saving it anywhere, you can test by running it from the console 18:25 pianohacker Have you checked your zebra error log? 18:10 ShunDi all the other searches (author, title etc) seem to work fine 18:10 ShunDi does anybody have an idea why the keyword search doesn't return any results unless you add kw= to the search term (latest koha git on lenny with zebra and icu.xml chain) 18:09 joetho Hi SHunDi 18:09 pianohacker Hello 18:07 ShunDi hi everyone :) 17:51 Sharon she's afk 17:50 pianohacker wizzyrea: Is that your first code-level patch? 17:49 gmcharlt "should be" being the operative term for ISBNs 17:47 Sharon that sounds promising, since patron barcodes are unique, item barcodes are unique and isbns are (or should be) unique 17:45 pianohacker wizzyrea: for the emulation, you could also check, in javascript, if the field was composed entirely of numbers. That way, if * becomes useful for something else, you could use it for that and still keep your hack 17:43 wizzyrea Yep 17:40 joetho Ours is scheduled for June 15 17:40 joetho btw: new list of patches at https://sites.google.com/a/liblime.com/liblime-customer-packet/Home/updates 17:39 joetho Hmmm. I still get the same results with or without the %. 17:37 Sharon or you know all but the last 2 digits of a patron barcode 10030060026% 17:36 Sharon the % works great if you don't know how to spell - ex, "king, ste%" 17:36 joetho what's the difference between a search with and without whatever wildcard symbol works? I just checked and I seem to get the same results with and without a % 17:33 wizzyrea hm. icwutudidthar 17:32 atz yeah, just add an onsubmit for the form, check if the value starts w/ *, expand to barcode:, return 17:32 wizzyrea emulate the *? 17:31 atz pianohacker: good point 17:31 pianohacker Actually, you could probably emulate it with an intranetuserjs hack 17:30 Sharon that's what I was thinking - what symbol isn't used 17:30 atz maybe ^ 17:29 atz Sharon: dunno... it probably should be something else anyway 17:29 wizzyrea hrm, okies 17:29 gmcharlt wizzyrea: check your email settings - patch for 3289 doesn't seem to have hit the patches list 17:29 Sharon I just want my * back...if I whine, will I get my way? 17:28 atz "witch" on OSX 17:28 atz FF-addons, or OS widgets 17:28 atz i think there are a ton of different apps for it... 17:27 wizzyrea with what were you thinking we would create said macro with, atz? 17:26 Sharon I think we should JING creating the macro 17:25 pianohacker Cool 17:25 wizzyrea harder to remember, but better result, so they'll learn it 17:24 wizzyrea ty for the tip on the barcode: search, that's actually really helpful b/c it gives a better result than the old way anyway 17:24 Sharon As long as I could tab and hard return through the data, the macro was golden 17:23 atz Sharon: yeah, terminals were blazing fast once you got up the learning curve 17:22 Sharon but Liz is right - our librarians are mouse-addicts 17:22 wizzyrea most of our librarians grew up on follett with a mouse 17:22 Sharon I had macros that sailed through 3-4 screens when I cataloged in Horizon 17:22 atz ahh.... multiLIS on VMS... those were the days... 17:22 wizzyrea ooh, yes, this I am familiar with 17:21 pianohacker Or, if they're like the librarians at my library, they'll take your accurate handwritten post-it and turn it into an incorrect typed-out label 17:21 wizzyrea rofl 17:21 atz i'm still like shift-control-gold-9 17:21 wizzyrea kidding, kidding. I tease b/c I love 17:21 wizzyrea until you swap out their monitor, lol 17:21 wizzyrea nah, most of em didn't 17:21 wizzyrea well they'll remember anything that's on a post-it, that's true 17:20 atz especially if they ever used the old terminal driven ILS's 17:20 Sharon lol 17:20 atz yeah, but if you just say "ctrl-b" inserts "barcode:" and put it on a post-it, they should get it 17:20 Sharon ;-) 17:20 Sharon Joe, dude....we're talking about librarians. I am one, was one, work with them...they don't know what a macro is 17:19 atz wizzyrea: need a keyboard macro 17:19 wizzyrea yea, it's an early one if I remember 17:19 pianohacker I know there's a bug for it 17:18 pianohacker Hmm, that didn't work 17:18 munin pianohacker: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3197 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell@ptfs-europe.com, NEW, Problem editing Authority MARC Subfield Structure: no "subfield code" box 17:18 munin pianohacker: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2635 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, cnighswonger@foundations.edu, NEW, Adding non-digit chars to cost fields in items causes data corruption 17:18 munin pianohacker: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2726 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris@bigballofwax.co.nz, NEW, in Auth_with_ldap.pm instead of doing a comparison try binding. 17:18 munin pianohacker: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=988 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris@bigballofwax.co.nz, NEW, issuing rules message when issuingrules=0 17:18 munin pianohacker: 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2785 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, Andrew.moore@liblime.com, NEW, dbdependant tests fail 17:18 Sharon is used to separate titles from subtitles 17:18 wizzyrea (imagine you have a lady with 6 kids, and has her receipt with barcode number and wants to know if she's turned it in, and you have another lady behind her with a screaming 6mo old... I might have trouble, in that moment of fluster, to type barcode: but that's just me) 17:18 pianohacker @query : 17:18 Sharon considering ": 17:18 atz pianohacker: with the unfortunate side effect of blocking searching containing ":" 17:17 pianohacker There's a file buried inside zebra's configuration directory (called record.abs, I think) that details all of the indexes, all of which can be used by searching for index:SEARCH_STRING 17:17 atz wizzyrea: not really, if * is still a wildcard elsewhere, it's harder to remember when it is and when it isn't 17:17 wizzyrea harder to remember though 17:16 Sharon it works, it's not as fast as typing * but I'll share this with my librarians. 17:16 atz pianohacker++ 17:16 atz that syntax makes a lot more sense to me, too 17:16 wizzyrea pianohacker++ that works 17:15 wizzyrea it's much faster than fiddling through the adv search, even if you get more results. The one with the exact barcode is usually the top of the list 17:15 pianohacker Does searching for barcode:BARCODE work? It should in theory 17:14 Sharon right - it's just searching an exact string of 'something' 17:13 atz it's still not exact, right? it doesn't know you want a barcode and not say... an ISBN 17:13 wizzyrea that's fair ;) 17:13 atz it may have, but i've no understanding of that implemenation or syntax 17:12 Sharon we are forever finding shortcuts to make the keyword search function like an exact search. 17:12 Sharon the * made the keyword search function as an exact search 17:12 Sharon not practical answer for a busy public library 17:12 atz keyword searching is still just keyword searching 17:12 wizzyrea the star usually pulled the exact item 17:11 atz the real answer is to use adv. search and search just the field that you want 17:11 atz Sharon: right, so that's no good if the barcode is something common like "12" 17:11 Sharon the * 'seemed' to make koha search for that specific series of numbers, if that makes sense 17:10 Sharon scenario: librarian wants to find the status of a book with a specific barcode. Used to be they could type in *BARCODE and find the specific item with that barcode. Without the *, Koha would find ANY item that contained the same digits/integers as that barcode. 17:09 Sharon patron and/or catalog 17:09 atz keyword search on catalog? patron? aqcuistions? sysprefs? etc... 17:08 Sharon keyword search via the staff client 17:08 atz % is truncation/wildcard operator in mysql 17:08 atz Sharon: not sure, there are many different "searches" 17:08 Sharon are they both? 17:07 Sharon I train that % is the wildcard 17:07 atz that seems odd, usually * is a wildcard 17:07 Sharon after the updates, that behavior disappeared. 17:07 Sharon Unrelated question from the same librarian - before the updates, using a * before a number (say a barcode) would pull that exact search string 17:06 atz wizzyrea: not likely 17:05 wizzyrea (i'm with occam, it was probably something else, and a coincidence) 17:04 wizzyrea I just got the strangest report from one of my librarians... they claim that they got "kicked out" of koha when we updated the news... is this even a possible scenario?! 15:18 jwagner Yes, that would work. Just wanted to point out that people need to keep an eye out for table structure changes. 15:16 slef sorry, headerrow, not new headerrrow 15:16 slef jwagner: we've recently sent changes that lets old CSVs keep working as long as you have a new headerrow and the new field can be blank. 15:15 jwagner schuster -- that works fine for us too, until something changes the structure of the patron table :-) Then it's just a matter of pulling the new table format (download new sample .csv from the patron import page) and revising our import scripting. 15:14 slef ok, looking closer 15:13 schuster slef - I have a comma delimited file that I use with all the headers and it loads very nicely. I have loaded over 53,000 borrowers this way. 15:12 slef from the Tools screen? 3.0? If so, I'll just look closer to see how it works 15:10 schuster slef - username for us put the username into the opac login along with password, but I am using it through the web when loading borrowers. 15:09 slef wb Sharon 15:07 slef hi all - can someone twitfilter this for me: tools/import_borrowers.pl accepts username but doesn't use it anywhere and neither does AddMember? 14:57 hdl_laptop What is more a problem is optgroup 14:57 hdl_laptop atz: I think input button are well managed. 14:54 atz seems like the translator would have a better chance at that 14:54 atz would it be better for us to use something like <button type="submit">Submit</button> ? 14:53 atz like: <input type="submit" value="Submit" /> 14:53 atz how does our translator handle input buttons 12:59 gmcharlt thanks 12:58 nahuel yes I will :) 12:58 gmcharlt would you? :) 12:58 nahuel yes I can :) 12:58 gmcharlt could you go through them and close them? 12:57 gmcharlt just a small request - there are a lot of bugs you opened where the patch has been accepted 12:57 nahuel what's up ? 12:57 nahuel gmcharlt, yap 12:57 gmcharlt nahuel: about? 12:56 gmcharlt hdl_laptop++ # 3.0.2