Time  Nick          Message
12:14 Amit_         hi gmcharlt
12:14 gmcharlt      hi Amit_
12:30 schuster      morning!  any more comments on the enhancements document before I send it out to the community?
12:31 schuster      I know of a couple people ready to enter sponsored enhancements just waiting for instructions.
13:06 gmcharlt      schuster: go for it, but note the last few edits made to the wiki page
13:06 schuster      Zebra running all the time or does it start stop itself?  I'm looking at Z39.50 for public access - and it says after you change the configuration of koha-conf.xml to stop/start zebra
13:07 schuster      http://new.koha.org/documentation/manual/3.2/administration/additional-parameters/z39.50-servers/?searchterm=zebra
13:07 gmcharlt      the zebrasrv daemon would run all the time, yes
13:07 schuster      I know I have been able to connect to Koha using MarcEdit Z connection, but that was port 9998, this "public" access says 9999 - but I need to cycle zebra.
13:08 gmcharlt      schuster: why not use port 9998?
13:08 gmcharlt      since it's already open
13:10 schuster      Well that was what I was trying to figure out if there was a "better" option for public external access...  And why the documentation was saying what it says from the URL at 08:07 in this line.
13:11 schuster      I'm still working with our administration on opening access to our MARC records...
13:11 schuster      Very tight security here ya know...
13:12 gmcharlt      if port 9998 is already open, then it's OK to tell your network admins to use that
13:12 gmcharlt      although the published port for public Z39.50 service is 210
13:12 gmcharlt      a lot of targets use other ports
13:12 gmcharlt      and 9998 is fine
13:13 schuster      On LibLime configurations - generally port 9998 is what it "listens" on - I understand the "official port" should be 210 - but our networking people have told me in the past you can run whatever you want on whatever port...
13:13 gmcharlt      yep
13:13 schuster      There are lots of "other" things they tell me that also run on that port...
13:14 schuster      210 that is..
13:14 schuster      I just want to make sure I have all my ducks in a row before I go down that path with my request.
13:14 schuster      My other option is to export on a regular basis and send the database to Biblios for inclusion - trying to determine the better way...
13:15 schuster      Thanks for the clarification gmcharlt
13:26 schuster      Question about Sessions and timeouts - by default it is set to 12000000 seconds.  Does the system clear those "sessions" after they expire?
13:26 gmcharlt      not in the sense of removing them from the sessions table, no
13:27 gmcharlt      it just signals that the user has to log in again
13:27 schuster      ok thanks.  Is there a cron job that clears sessions say at 2 am every day?
13:30 schuster      or what would be the pitfalls of clearing them?  with 12000000 is is about 138 days before the cookie expires if I did my math right.
13:31 schuster      If I changed that to 86400 or a little less that would be one day but the session just stays in the session table...hmmm
13:31 gmcharlt      clearing sessions at 2 am everyday is reasonable - presumably you don't get hackers from NZ trying to look things up on your catalog :)
13:32 schuster      Doubtful...  unless they really liked Texas history and culture ;) - I just see huge performance hits when I see sessions being accessed when I look at show processlist and the system is slow.
14:20 slef          just make sure only to clear expired sessions, but I guess you would anyway.
14:20 slef          Has anyone seen a bug where the koha CSS doesn't load on first access?
14:20 gmcharlt      slef: no, haven't run into that
14:22 gmcharlt      slef: looking for expired sessions would require diving into sessions.a_session
14:22 gmcharlt      CGI::Session's sessions table does have an expiration column
14:24 slef          gmcharlt: is there a way to email patches into the BTS?
14:26 slef          (think I asked this before but I forget where)
14:26 gmcharlt      slef: not yet - need to finish enabling BZ's email gateway
14:27 slef          ok will weblink them
14:32 slef          would really help if we only had to send patches once to get to both bugs.koha.org and git.koha.org
14:49 wizzyrea_away slef: I see that problem intermittently with lots of websites
14:49 wizzyrea_away esp in the one back version of firefox
14:50 wizzyrea_away I think it's a FF thing
15:57 slef          wizzyrea: "one back version" = 3.0?
16:39 wizzyrea      one of the minor revisions... one sec I'll look
16:39 wizzyrea      gah, sorry slef... was off doing jquery
16:40 wizzyrea      3.0.8 or 9 I think I had more problems than I do now with 3.0.10
17:17 wizzyrea      question, is there a way to do template tag replacement with jquery? example: i want to replace location tag with with the homebranch tag. Logic in my mind says you can't do this but wanted to make sure I was thinking about it correctly
17:18 wizzyrea      or maybe there's deeper magic that I'm not yet privy to
17:18 pianohacker   Unfortunately, no; the template tags are processed into HTML before the browser sees them
17:18 wizzyrea      that was what I thought
17:18 wizzyrea      bummer. but is ok, that leaves me with only 2 actually customized templates (for now)
17:19 wizzyrea      gmcharlt will be excited to know that I got almost everything else done with jquery
17:19 gmcharlt      wizzyrea: I am indeed :)
17:23 wizzyrea      I also want to find out how to add a tag to the scripts so I can use it, but will work on that a little later, is time for lunch
17:23 wizzyrea      ttyl
20:07 atz           gmcharlt: can you comment on "allowthemeoverride" as in templates.readme
20:07 atz           ?
20:07 atz           looks totally obsolete to me
20:08 gmcharlt      atz: it is, and can be removed on site
20:08 gmcharlt      *sight
20:08 atz           thx
20:32 richard       hi
20:33 gmcharlt      hi richard
20:47 hdl_laptop    hi all
20:52 gmcharlt      hi hdl_laptop
21:05 joann         morning
21:07 gmcharlt      hi joann
21:13 Sharon        Just want to say thank you to all the programmers for these great fixes I'm reading about in git.  The fix for bug 3093 is awesome.
21:16 chris         morning
21:18 danny         hey Sharon, we actually sponsored that here at Howard County Library and are very happy with the work Alloy Computing did on it =)
21:19 Sharon        Danny that's great, we are going through the GIT patch by patch looking for fun new features
21:19 gmcharlt      no love for the boring necessary features? ;)
21:20 Sharon        gmcharlt I just don't understand those!
21:20 danny         hehe
21:20 Sharon        It's cool to see Liz's contributions.
21:22 Sharon        gmcharlt Liz has just found that in our test catalog, the Amazon enhanced content bug is showing up again. Example: Max by Patterson
21:22 gmcharlt      Sharon: ah, I know why - I'll fix in a bit
21:23 Sharon        gmcharlt sweet - want us to submit a ticket?
21:23 gmcharlt      sure - direct to my attention
21:24 Sharon        will do
21:30 Sharon        Can saved reports be scheduled yet?
21:30 wizzyrea      (it was broken for a while)
21:30 gmcharlt      not reliably, no
21:31 Sharon        ok, thanks.
21:44 wizzyrea      significant reason NOT to load the jquery framework on the moremember-receipt.tmpl?
21:45 wizzyrea      (b/c I want to change it and I don't want to edit the template. So there.)
21:45 wizzyrea      w/ apologies to owen :P
21:46 gmcharlt      wizzyrea: should be OK
21:49 wizzyrea      I would think that the receipts would be a prime target for customization
21:49 wizzyrea      at least a bundle of sysprefs
21:49 wizzyrea      to edit the header/footer thereof
21:50 gmcharlt      or a candidate for Template::Toolkit
21:50 wizzyrea      i'm not familiar with that but if you're for it I"m for it :P
21:51 wizzyrea      something that should be added to bugzilla for disucssion/wishlist?
21:51 gmcharlt      yep
21:51 wizzyrea      sweet, will do
22:35 chris         todays song of the day http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cmw45bNhuQ
22:47 chris         and in that vein
22:47 chris         http://library-matters.blogspot.com/2009/05/mid-winter-at-levin-library.html
23:20 gmcharlt      nice
00:02 joann         oh wow
00:02 joann         thats beautiful Chris
00:02 chris         ohh 90th committer
00:02 chris         and our first russian
00:02 chris         how cool
00:12 chris         joann: i saw trinity roots live 3 times ... they were a great band
00:12 gmcharlt      yay - I think I finally killed that ruddy Zotero support bug
00:12 chris         w00t nice work gmcharlt
00:13 chris         joann: i was at this concert you can see my hand (i think) at one point http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SblTKIZoInI
00:13 chris         gmcharlt: Zotero is pretty darn cool
00:14 gmcharlt      chris: agreed - I use it all the time
00:22 chris         joann: should we use this video in our bid to host kohacon2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi4VPt9o0Rk&feature=related
00:22 chris         :)
00:24 pianohacker   chris: that is quite nice
00:26 joann         hell yes!
00:30 joann         and we should offer a hosted tour round the place too
00:30 chris         sounds like a plan
00:30 chris         http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wriiLB4RO8I&feature=related
00:31 chris         i have been sucked into the blackhole of youtube for my lunch break
00:31 gmcharlt      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou3TukauccM
00:32 chris         heh
00:47 pianohacker   'gnight #koha
00:54 brendan       heya chris - gmcharlt - #koha
00:54 gmcharlt      hi brendan
01:08 joann         hi Brendan
01:08 brendan       hi joann
01:09 brendan       As everyone else seems to be wasting their time on youtube -- I am wasting mine on facebook!
01:10 joann         oh its not a waste of time Brendan ...
01:10 joann         we're trying to soften you all up to come down our way for Koha Con 2010
01:10 brendan       Yes - that is excellent !
01:10 brendan       Let me know if you ever need some help or ideas !
01:11 brendan       I definitely want to go to NZ
01:11 joann         yay!
01:12 joann         i think it would be great tohave it down our way .. and USA dollars buy 2 of ours so everything seems 1/2 priced.
01:22 brendan       heh -- that makes sound better again
01:43 chris         man, that was crazy
02:48 joann         I'm on twitter: what syour name? jransom is me
02:48 joann         you want to come work for me brendan: my sdtaff have tons of work to do (no time for twitter here!)
02:49 brendan       ha -- joann -- I'm putting off going to bed - that's the time wasting going on
02:50 brendan       I'm at a conference so the time change (-3 hours) is messing with me
02:51 brendan       if you have a a math professor position open for my fiance -- we are on the next airplane
02:51 brendan       actually my brother lived in wellington for a year -- he worked on King Kong
02:55 brendan       I'm bywatersolution on twitter
03:15 Amit          hi brendan, chris, mason
03:15 Amit          good morning
03:15 brendan       heya Amit
03:15 brendan       was waiting for your hello !
03:15 brendan       now I'm off to bed
03:16 Amit          hmm
03:16 brendan       good night #koha, amit chirs joann and anyone else awake
03:16 Amit          good night
03:16 Amit          what time
03:16 brendan       whoops chris
03:16 brendan       11 pm
03:17 brendan       I'm on the east coast of US now -- usually I'm on the west coast (3 hours different) --
03:17 Amit          ok
03:32 joann         cya Brendan, hiya Amit
03:33 Amit          hi joann
04:23 Amit          chris around
04:23 Amit          ?
04:59 joann         Hey Amit, no I suspect he's gone by now
04:59 Amit          joann: i want to question about translation
04:59 joann         he'll probably come back on tonight from home
04:59 Amit          ok
04:59 joann         you could email him
05:00 joann         chris@bigballofwax.com
05:00 Amit          i have already email id of chris
05:00 Amit          could know about how to translate MARC21 style sheet
05:00 Amit          joann
05:01 joann         no sweatheart - I am a lowly librarian
05:01 Amit          hmm
05:01 Amit          np thanks
05:01 Amit          how is life in NZ
05:02 joann         its all good :)
05:02 Amit          r u interested in cricket
05:02 Amit          matches
05:02 joann         no .. sorry.
05:02 joann         I know you are though!
05:02 joann         India?
05:03 Amit          yes i m from India
05:03 joann         that is 1 country really do want to see before I die
05:04 Amit          hmm what is ur age joann?
05:04 joann         44. how old are you?
05:04 Amit          i m 26 yrs
05:04 joann         (funny question to ask ...)
05:05 Amit          hmm
05:05 joann         Weare all ageless online!
05:05 joann         OK. well I'm off home now: yay for weekends!
05:06 joann         cya next week.
05:06 Amit          bye
05:06 Amit          have a great weekend
05:06 Amit          take care joann
05:06 joann         cya