Time Nick Message 12:14 Amit_ hi gmcharlt 12:14 gmcharlt hi Amit_ 12:30 schuster morning! any more comments on the enhancements document before I send it out to the community? 12:31 schuster I know of a couple people ready to enter sponsored enhancements just waiting for instructions. 13:06 gmcharlt schuster: go for it, but note the last few edits made to the wiki page 13:06 schuster Zebra running all the time or does it start stop itself? I'm looking at Z39.50 for public access - and it says after you change the configuration of koha-conf.xml to stop/start zebra 13:07 schuster http://new.koha.org/documentation/manual/3.2/administration/additional-parameters/z39.50-servers/?searchterm=zebra 13:07 gmcharlt the zebrasrv daemon would run all the time, yes 13:07 schuster I know I have been able to connect to Koha using MarcEdit Z connection, but that was port 9998, this "public" access says 9999 - but I need to cycle zebra. 13:08 gmcharlt schuster: why not use port 9998? 13:08 gmcharlt since it's already open 13:10 schuster Well that was what I was trying to figure out if there was a "better" option for public external access... And why the documentation was saying what it says from the URL at 08:07 in this line. 13:11 schuster I'm still working with our administration on opening access to our MARC records... 13:11 schuster Very tight security here ya know... 13:12 gmcharlt if port 9998 is already open, then it's OK to tell your network admins to use that 13:12 gmcharlt although the published port for public Z39.50 service is 210 13:12 gmcharlt a lot of targets use other ports 13:12 gmcharlt and 9998 is fine 13:13 schuster On LibLime configurations - generally port 9998 is what it "listens" on - I understand the "official port" should be 210 - but our networking people have told me in the past you can run whatever you want on whatever port... 13:13 gmcharlt yep 13:13 schuster There are lots of "other" things they tell me that also run on that port... 13:14 schuster 210 that is.. 13:14 schuster I just want to make sure I have all my ducks in a row before I go down that path with my request. 13:14 schuster My other option is to export on a regular basis and send the database to Biblios for inclusion - trying to determine the better way... 13:15 schuster Thanks for the clarification gmcharlt 13:26 schuster Question about Sessions and timeouts - by default it is set to 12000000 seconds. Does the system clear those "sessions" after they expire? 13:26 gmcharlt not in the sense of removing them from the sessions table, no 13:27 gmcharlt it just signals that the user has to log in again 13:27 schuster ok thanks. Is there a cron job that clears sessions say at 2 am every day? 13:30 schuster or what would be the pitfalls of clearing them? with 12000000 is is about 138 days before the cookie expires if I did my math right. 13:31 schuster If I changed that to 86400 or a little less that would be one day but the session just stays in the session table...hmmm 13:31 gmcharlt clearing sessions at 2 am everyday is reasonable - presumably you don't get hackers from NZ trying to look things up on your catalog :) 13:32 schuster Doubtful... unless they really liked Texas history and culture ;) - I just see huge performance hits when I see sessions being accessed when I look at show processlist and the system is slow. 14:20 slef just make sure only to clear expired sessions, but I guess you would anyway. 14:20 slef Has anyone seen a bug where the koha CSS doesn't load on first access? 14:20 gmcharlt slef: no, haven't run into that 14:22 gmcharlt slef: looking for expired sessions would require diving into sessions.a_session 14:22 gmcharlt CGI::Session's sessions table does have an expiration column 14:24 slef gmcharlt: is there a way to email patches into the BTS? 14:26 slef (think I asked this before but I forget where) 14:26 gmcharlt slef: not yet - need to finish enabling BZ's email gateway 14:27 slef ok will weblink them 14:32 slef would really help if we only had to send patches once to get to both bugs.koha.org and git.koha.org 14:49 wizzyrea_away slef: I see that problem intermittently with lots of websites 14:49 wizzyrea_away esp in the one back version of firefox 14:50 wizzyrea_away I think it's a FF thing 15:57 slef wizzyrea: "one back version" = 3.0? 16:39 wizzyrea one of the minor revisions... one sec I'll look 16:39 wizzyrea gah, sorry slef... was off doing jquery 16:40 wizzyrea 3.0.8 or 9 I think I had more problems than I do now with 3.0.10 17:17 wizzyrea question, is there a way to do template tag replacement with jquery? example: i want to replace location tag with with the homebranch tag. Logic in my mind says you can't do this but wanted to make sure I was thinking about it correctly 17:18 wizzyrea or maybe there's deeper magic that I'm not yet privy to 17:18 pianohacker Unfortunately, no; the template tags are processed into HTML before the browser sees them 17:18 wizzyrea that was what I thought 17:18 wizzyrea bummer. but is ok, that leaves me with only 2 actually customized templates (for now) 17:19 wizzyrea gmcharlt will be excited to know that I got almost everything else done with jquery 17:19 gmcharlt wizzyrea: I am indeed :) 17:23 wizzyrea I also want to find out how to add a tag to the scripts so I can use it, but will work on that a little later, is time for lunch 17:23 wizzyrea ttyl 20:07 atz gmcharlt: can you comment on "allowthemeoverride" as in templates.readme 20:07 atz ? 20:07 atz looks totally obsolete to me 20:08 gmcharlt atz: it is, and can be removed on site 20:08 gmcharlt *sight 20:08 atz thx 20:32 richard hi 20:33 gmcharlt hi richard 20:47 hdl_laptop hi all 20:52 gmcharlt hi hdl_laptop 21:05 joann morning 21:07 gmcharlt hi joann 21:13 Sharon Just want to say thank you to all the programmers for these great fixes I'm reading about in git. The fix for bug 3093 is awesome. 21:16 chris morning 21:18 danny hey Sharon, we actually sponsored that here at Howard County Library and are very happy with the work Alloy Computing did on it =) 21:19 Sharon Danny that's great, we are going through the GIT patch by patch looking for fun new features 21:19 gmcharlt no love for the boring necessary features? ;) 21:20 Sharon gmcharlt I just don't understand those! 21:20 danny hehe 21:20 Sharon It's cool to see Liz's contributions. 21:22 Sharon gmcharlt Liz has just found that in our test catalog, the Amazon enhanced content bug is showing up again. Example: Max by Patterson 21:22 gmcharlt Sharon: ah, I know why - I'll fix in a bit 21:23 Sharon gmcharlt sweet - want us to submit a ticket? 21:23 gmcharlt sure - direct to my attention 21:24 Sharon will do 21:30 Sharon Can saved reports be scheduled yet? 21:30 wizzyrea (it was broken for a while) 21:30 gmcharlt not reliably, no 21:31 Sharon ok, thanks. 21:44 wizzyrea significant reason NOT to load the jquery framework on the moremember-receipt.tmpl? 21:45 wizzyrea (b/c I want to change it and I don't want to edit the template. So there.) 21:45 wizzyrea w/ apologies to owen :P 21:46 gmcharlt wizzyrea: should be OK 21:49 wizzyrea I would think that the receipts would be a prime target for customization 21:49 wizzyrea at least a bundle of sysprefs 21:49 wizzyrea to edit the header/footer thereof 21:50 gmcharlt or a candidate for Template::Toolkit 21:50 wizzyrea i'm not familiar with that but if you're for it I"m for it :P 21:51 wizzyrea something that should be added to bugzilla for disucssion/wishlist? 21:51 gmcharlt yep 21:51 wizzyrea sweet, will do 22:35 chris todays song of the day http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cmw45bNhuQ 22:47 chris and in that vein 22:47 chris http://library-matters.blogspot.com/2009/05/mid-winter-at-levin-library.html 23:20 gmcharlt nice 00:02 joann oh wow 00:02 joann thats beautiful Chris 00:02 chris ohh 90th committer 00:02 chris and our first russian 00:02 chris how cool 00:12 chris joann: i saw trinity roots live 3 times ... they were a great band 00:12 gmcharlt yay - I think I finally killed that ruddy Zotero support bug 00:12 chris w00t nice work gmcharlt 00:13 chris joann: i was at this concert you can see my hand (i think) at one point http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SblTKIZoInI 00:13 chris gmcharlt: Zotero is pretty darn cool 00:14 gmcharlt chris: agreed - I use it all the time 00:22 chris joann: should we use this video in our bid to host kohacon2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi4VPt9o0Rk&feature=related 00:22 chris :) 00:24 pianohacker chris: that is quite nice 00:26 joann hell yes! 00:30 joann and we should offer a hosted tour round the place too 00:30 chris sounds like a plan 00:30 chris http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wriiLB4RO8I&feature=related 00:31 chris i have been sucked into the blackhole of youtube for my lunch break 00:31 gmcharlt http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou3TukauccM 00:32 chris heh 00:47 pianohacker 'gnight #koha 00:54 brendan heya chris - gmcharlt - #koha 00:54 gmcharlt hi brendan 01:08 joann hi Brendan 01:08 brendan hi joann 01:09 brendan As everyone else seems to be wasting their time on youtube -- I am wasting mine on facebook! 01:10 joann oh its not a waste of time Brendan ... 01:10 joann we're trying to soften you all up to come down our way for Koha Con 2010 01:10 brendan Yes - that is excellent ! 01:10 brendan Let me know if you ever need some help or ideas ! 01:11 brendan I definitely want to go to NZ 01:11 joann yay! 01:12 joann i think it would be great tohave it down our way .. and USA dollars buy 2 of ours so everything seems 1/2 priced. 01:22 brendan heh -- that makes sound better again 01:43 chris man, that was crazy 02:48 joann I'm on twitter: what syour name? jransom is me 02:48 joann you want to come work for me brendan: my sdtaff have tons of work to do (no time for twitter here!) 02:49 brendan ha -- joann -- I'm putting off going to bed - that's the time wasting going on 02:50 brendan I'm at a conference so the time change (-3 hours) is messing with me 02:51 brendan if you have a a math professor position open for my fiance -- we are on the next airplane 02:51 brendan actually my brother lived in wellington for a year -- he worked on King Kong 02:55 brendan I'm bywatersolution on twitter 03:15 Amit hi brendan, chris, mason 03:15 Amit good morning 03:15 brendan heya Amit 03:15 brendan was waiting for your hello ! 03:15 brendan now I'm off to bed 03:16 Amit hmm 03:16 brendan good night #koha, amit chirs joann and anyone else awake 03:16 Amit good night 03:16 Amit what time 03:16 brendan whoops chris 03:16 brendan 11 pm 03:17 brendan I'm on the east coast of US now -- usually I'm on the west coast (3 hours different) -- 03:17 Amit ok 03:32 joann cya Brendan, hiya Amit 03:33 Amit hi joann 04:23 Amit chris around 04:23 Amit ? 04:59 joann Hey Amit, no I suspect he's gone by now 04:59 Amit joann: i want to question about translation 04:59 joann he'll probably come back on tonight from home 04:59 Amit ok 04:59 joann you could email him 05:00 joann chris@bigballofwax.com 05:00 Amit i have already email id of chris 05:00 Amit could know about how to translate MARC21 style sheet 05:00 Amit joann 05:01 joann no sweatheart - I am a lowly librarian 05:01 Amit hmm 05:01 Amit np thanks 05:01 Amit how is life in NZ 05:02 joann its all good :) 05:02 Amit r u interested in cricket 05:02 Amit matches 05:02 joann no .. sorry. 05:02 joann I know you are though! 05:02 joann India? 05:03 Amit yes i m from India 05:03 joann that is 1 country really do want to see before I die 05:04 Amit hmm what is ur age joann? 05:04 joann 44. how old are you? 05:04 Amit i m 26 yrs 05:04 joann (funny question to ask ...) 05:05 Amit hmm 05:05 joann Weare all ageless online! 05:05 joann OK. well I'm off home now: yay for weekends! 05:06 joann cya next week. 05:06 Amit bye 05:06 Amit have a great weekend 05:06 Amit take care joann 05:06 joann cya