Time Nick Message 11:56 gmcharlt hi kf 11:56 kf hi gmcharlt 11:34 gmcharlt greeintgs #koha 09:13 Amit hi slef 08:47 chris hi slef 08:47 slef hi all 05:05 bignose-work scary stuff. best wishes to those in that area. 05:05 bignose-work those photos look just like Mordor seen from Minas Tirith. 05:05 bignose-work and they said that Mordor in New Zealand was just a special effect. 04:36 chris hopefully the fire is out by the time we next talk 04:35 chris well my wife is coming in for after work drinks, so i should go downstairs and be there when she arrives 04:35 chris freaky 04:35 chris i bet 04:35 brendan chris even here it looks big 04:32 chris thats a scarily big fire 04:31 Amit ok 04:31 brendan amit take a look if they load for you 04:31 brendan http://twitpic.com/4rj3i 04:30 brendan http://twitpic.com/4rj1h 04:30 brendan hey chris -- just posted some more pics on twitpic 04:28 reed hi 04:28 Amit hi reed 04:27 Amit chris; screen is so wide 04:27 reed (meant in neither a good nor a bad way) 04:26 reed smells like plone 04:16 chris the css is kind broken in my browser too 04:12 Amit what about download section 04:09 Amit hmm 04:08 chris yeah, i dont like the new format 04:08 Amit http://new.koha.org/support/pay-for-support 04:08 Amit pay for support section is not data-wise 04:07 chris dont like the pay for support section 04:07 chris with the manual etc 04:07 chris i like the documentation section 04:06 Amit chris which one? 04:05 chris i like some of it, dont like other bits 04:04 Amit yours? 04:03 Amit it is good as compare to old one 04:03 brendan yes I saw it what do you think? 04:03 Amit brendan: http://new.koha.org/ 04:02 brendan heya amit 04:02 Amit hi brendan 03:40 Amit hi chris, mason good morning 02:53 reed hard to really make the case 02:53 reed given that the Internet exists 02:52 reed have heard the opposite 02:52 chris yeah that's a new one for me too 02:52 reed never in my life have I heard the 'can't be standard compliant' one 02:50 chris *nod* 02:50 SelfishMan I'll deploy and support whatever platform best solves a clients problem but there is a lot of fear out there 02:49 chris public sector is a different story 02:49 SelfishMan Once I deploy it and show them the numbers the only question they have is why they waited so long to switch 02:49 chris its interesting, there is very little resistance to FOSS in the private sector in nz 02:48 SelfishMan I deal with a lot of businesses, both large and small, and I get this kind of resistance to FOSS everywhere 02:47 chris which i usually combat that, its running in consortia bigger than all the libraries in this country 02:47 chris i often get "koha is only for very small libraries" 02:46 chris the same illformed opinions often come out of our national library too 02:46 chris ahhh 02:45 SelfishMan Nah, it was someone at our state library 02:45 chris this was a selfcheck vendor? 02:45 SelfishMan My head almost imploded when they told me this stuff 02:45 chris :) 02:44 chris it just took a library to actually ask for 02:44 chris way way back in 2002 3M were wanting to get their stuff working with Koha .. theyve been taking it seriously since then, and SIP is their baby 02:43 chris yeah 02:43 SelfishMan It's a defacto standard 02:42 chris SIP is only a standard in the same way .doc is a standard 02:42 SelfishMan My response: "Umm...there are several people interfacing your product with koha via SIP right now" 02:42 chris ? 02:42 chris awesome, did you tell them SIP isnt a standard 02:42 SelfishMan Yes, they were nice enough to inform me that koha will never be SIP compliant 02:39 chris if we talk about actual standards, not jsut standards vendors made up 02:39 chris i think evergreen and koha are probably more standards compliant that the rest of the proprietary systems put together :) 02:39 chris lol 02:38 SelfishMan I think they were really stretching with that "reason" 02:37 SelfishMan hmm...I've just been informed that FOSS solutions like koha are a bad thing for libraries because they aren't backed by deep pockets so they will never be standards compliant. 01:22 richard will do 01:22 richard sort of easing back into the work force 01:22 chris sweet, say hi from me 01:22 richard she's doing a bit of contract work 01:19 chris richard: is bex working for katipo again? 01:07 richard oops, wrong # 01:07 richard bex? 00:28 pianohacker good night, #koha 23:40 chris :) 23:38 brendan we just donated some doggie food to the humane society... so at least got something constructive accomplished today 23:33 chris dang 23:31 brendan back home - not too good, the wind is picking up 23:12 chris cya later 23:12 brendan heading home -- chat with you all later 22:49 chris hi eiro :) 22:49 eiro hello guys 22:41 richard yeah, felt it too 22:40 chris earthquake 21:41 brendan heading outside to check the wind 21:40 chris freaky eh 21:39 wizzyrea1 wow 21:39 brendan yup. from the front 21:39 wizzyrea1 omg, is that from your house? 21:37 brendan news is just so much faster now... 21:36 brendan geez - within a minute I already had 21 views! 21:36 gmcharlt hang in there 21:36 chris yeah fair enough 21:35 brendan here's a pic... http://twitpic.com/4qphs 21:35 brendan tough doing work today -- with some much fire news going on around me... I can't seem to think about anything else 21:13 chris i love qemu 20:47 chris heya richard 20:43 rhcl afternoon 20:39 richard morning 20:38 chris back 20:30 pianohacker heh 20:30 gmcharlt could one tell if a robins sneezes? :) 20:30 pianohacker Ah, a man of schiensh 20:29 rhcl Well, robins eat worms all the time, and I'v never seen a robin with allergies, so it must work. 20:26 wizzyrea1 it's just theory though >.> 20:25 wizzyrea1 supposedly this works better than most traditional medicine 20:25 wizzyrea1 rhcl: yea, the theory is that in people with severe allergies, tapeworms keep their overactive immune systems busy so it doesn't attack the person (causing alllergies) 20:24 rhcl Ah, just feed 'em a few extra strips of bacon every morning. 20:21 pianohacker "Tapeworms - for a slimmer, more attractive you!" 20:21 rhcl Yea, well, I read an article a while back about a few worms in your intestines being good for you-boosts your immune system or something. 20:20 pianohacker yeah 20:20 wizzyrea1 (big 'ol can of worms in some circles) 20:19 wizzyrea1 if you're down with the whole vaccine thing 20:19 wizzyrea1 yea, they vaccinate for that now 20:19 pianohacker I have a couple of dents in my face from a horrible chickenpox infection when I was younger 20:19 pianohacker Gah, chickenpox 20:18 rhcl I'd never heard of chickenpox parties either. 20:18 wizzyrea1 but cripes. 20:18 wizzyrea1 and I kind of see their logic 20:18 wizzyrea1 it did actually occur to me, a la chickenpox parties 20:18 rhcl sed s/think/thing 20:18 rhcl Stupidest idea I can think of, and I never had thought of such a think until I read that article today. 20:17 wizzyrea1 one might argue that sending your child to daycare is as good as the same thing 20:17 pianohacker That's horrifying 20:17 wizzyrea1 Ha, no 20:17 rhcl http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5i-VB_9IP5TEVmozh2Ua58D_6miqQ 20:16 rhcl Are you having a flu party? 20:16 wizzyrea1 flu* 20:16 wizzyrea1 lol, hopefully the normal flue 20:16 pianohacker Do you know what's wrong? 20:16 pianohacker ouch, sorry 20:15 wizzyrea1 i blame it on proximity to whining children (home with a sick kid today) 20:15 wizzyrea1 idk why I did that 20:14 rhcl I think rhcl and ryan are different. :) RHCL = Rolling Hills Consolidated Library, i.e. "Me" - Greg 20:08 wizzyrea1 runs and hides 20:08 wizzyrea1 yes... actually 20:07 gmcharlt wizzyrea1: ryan, you mean? 20:07 wizzyrea1 was a good day :) 20:07 wizzyrea1 several things, tracked down our holds bugs, fixed our amazon problem (with gmcharlt) 19:58 pianohacker wizzyrea1: what'd he do? 19:55 wizzyrea1 rhcl: you made us so happy today 19:42 chris especially when they mouth off during the haka 19:42 chris http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWgLLEBUPLQ <--- there is always a lot of feeling when we play australia 19:38 brendan geez keep us updated chris -- about the nutjob.. not the nutjob's playing rugby 19:37 chris should be a good game, first time we have played them since we beat them in the world cup last year (huge upset ..we beat australia in rugby union a lot, they almost always beat us in league) 19:37 chris but im gonna have to look at this story all day .. so on to less depressing things nz vs australia in rugby league tonight 19:34 chris (not on routine patrol anyway) 19:34 chris our police don't carry guns 19:33 gmcharlt :( 19:33 chris (ex territorial soldier ... like your guys national guard) 19:32 chris they have the nutjub who did it surrounded, but he still has a gun 19:32 wizzyrea1 wow, and lol 19:32 atz NZ is not known for violent crime... outside of rugby and soccer 19:32 chris yep, so 150 years or somehting 19:32 wizzyrea1 as in, since policing started in nz? 19:31 chris yeah 19:31 wizzyrea1 ever? 19:31 chris the 29th policeman ever killed in the line of duty was killed yesterday 19:30 chris yeah, especially as we are having our biggest news day in a long time here 19:29 brendan chris - not to good if that is popping up in NZ 19:28 brendan from the local santa barbara paper... at the bottom there is a link to look at the fire live. 19:27 brendan http://www.independent.com/news/2009/may/07/jesusita-fire-turns-tragic-without-warning/ 19:27 brendan the winds are supposed to pick up at 2pm -- an hour and half from now.... 19:26 chris brendan: youve made the news in NZ now http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/2393153/California-wildfire-destroys-homes 19:03 wizzyrea1 but if you want mountains you *are* out of luck 19:02 wizzyrea1 my part of kansas isnt flat :P 18:57 brendan wizzyrea1 kansas is a little too flat for me. 18:56 brendan thanks gmcharlt 18:49 wizzyrea1 brendan: you should come to kansas, only tornadoes here 17:59 gmcharlt though good sign that your sense of humor is intact :) 17:59 gmcharlt brendan: best wishes to you - sorry that you're caught in the middle of this 17:51 pianohacker how ghoulish :) 17:50 brendan I know wrong time for a joke... but I couldn't resist 17:50 brendan hey atz pianohacker -- you're welcome to stop by and roast some hotdogs 17:14 brendan the 101 is closed through the center of town... atleast all the exits are 17:13 atz total insanity 17:13 brendan last night I saw flames that were about 100 feet high 17:13 atz "Fire is now over this section of road. Do not attempt passage!" 17:13 brendan I'm out towards the airport, ucsb 17:12 atz when there were actual hotpoint and emergency notices like 17:12 atz it's not as good as the ones from last year 17:12 brendan yup atz that's the map 17:12 pianohacker atz++ 17:07 atz http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=100866907082629170478.0004693715dcc08efaa8c&ll=34.449387,-119.776039&spn=0.127401,0.205994&z=12&source=embed 17:06 pianohacker erosion control is a biggie 17:05 pianohacker Yeah, I've seen the amount of work they have to do here in CO after a major forest fire 17:01 brendan definitely going to join the reforestation groups once this done 17:00 brendan almost getting ready to join the volunteer groups or fire department - i used to be trained as a fire fighter 16:59 brendan she's still got school going on... 16:59 pianohacker Good, nice to know she's safe 16:59 brendan yes. 16:55 pianohacker Is your fianceé at your house? 16:54 brendan I'm still upwind, but I have more friends staying at my house 16:54 brendan gust up to 60mph 16:54 brendan there are predictions of really high sun-downer winds tonight 16:54 pianohacker Wow 16:53 brendan 1300 acres now, homes burning 16:53 brendan more bad news from my area... The local fires have gotten worse 16:53 pianohacker How are the fires? 16:53 pianohacker Morning brendan 16:53 brendan Good morning #koha 15:52 hdl_laptop thx gmcharlt 15:07 gmcharlt hdl_laptop: http://blogs.liblime.com/developers/2009/05/07/initial-302-candidate-reading-for-testing/ 14:58 gmcharlt hdl_laptop: no problem 14:57 hdl_laptop gmcharlt: thx for your suggestion 13:49 hdl_laptop I agree. 13:49 hdl_laptop giving my email could be ok then. 13:49 hdl_laptop testing only and bug report. 13:49 gmcharlt if it just for temporary testing of changes before merging into the main repo's 3.0.x branch 13:49 hdl_laptop or should I send a message with my email ? and say spam me if you find any bug ? 13:48 gmcharlt what is the purpose of this tree? 13:48 hdl_laptop Or should we add it in koha 3.0.X_stable ? 13:48 hdl_laptop gmcharlt: can we add a product koha-maintenance to bugzilla ? so that ppl can report all the bugs on that product directly.