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09:39 Amit hi chris: this is possible we can install three koha on one server
09:03 chris heh
09:02 anasha we are becoming bigger and bigger.... just like big bang
09:01 anasha chris, you are very much true
08:58 kf :)
08:55 chris thank you
08:55 anasha chris, yes
08:55 anasha yes... this AMC stands for Annual Maintenance Contract
08:55 chris seems like a good opportunity for one of the indian koha support companies :)
08:55 chris are you on the devel list?
08:54 chris We are from INMAS, DRDO, Delhi. Presently we are using newgenlib (OSS), we had tried a lot to give AMC to Newgenlib developers (M/s Verus Solutions) at normal rates but they did not responded positive.
08:54 chris ahh that makes sense
08:54 anasha ?
08:54 anasha chris, is it Annual Maintenance Contract
08:52 chris anasha, have you heard of AMC before?
08:51 chris maybe it means A Management Contract
08:50 chris id certainly tell them to not go to koha 2.2.9, if they were going to koha to go to 3.0.1
08:49 chris i think support
08:49 chris yeah, i have no idea
08:48 kf good morning paul and nicomo
08:48 kf just read a mail on koha-devel: Data Conversion form Newgenlib to koha and wondered about the appreviation
08:48 chris ohh i see the email
08:47 chris hmmm in what context?
08:46 kf chris: what does AMC stands for?
08:46 chris the same here
08:45 kf have to be careful not to believe everything I read today
08:44 kf not a big deal, but there are april fools in newspapers, sometimes in mails and joking colleagues of course
08:41 chris is it a big deal there?
08:41 kf its not over here yet
08:36 chris survived april fools day
08:36 chris good thanks as well
08:35 chris ahh i was writing phonetically
08:35 kf vie = wie :)
08:34 kf good, thx. how are you?
08:31 chris vie gehts?
08:30 chris guten morgen
08:30 chris hi kf
08:19 chris no problem
08:07 nahuel thanks
08:07 nahuel in opac
08:07 nahuel ah ok
08:04 chris http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=Koha;a=tree;f=opac/sco;
08:04 chris its in opac/
08:04 chris 2 secs
08:02 nahuel cannot find it...
08:01 chris yep it is
08:00 nahuel but it's not in the koha sources
08:00 chris self check out
07:59 nahuel chris, what's sco ?
07:58 chris or you can use any machine that talks SIP2 and koha
07:54 chris http://opac.koha.workbuffer.org/cgi-bin/koha/sco/sco-main.pl
07:53 chris you can do it with koha
07:48 SelfishMan There are several commercial solutions
07:48 nahuel this exists?
07:47 SelfishMan nahuel: "self" as in patrons being able to checkout materials on their own
07:47 nahuel "self" ?
07:46 SelfishMan anyone know of an open source self checkout system?
07:36 mc ;)
07:36 mc (forget me for the next year!
07:35 mc nahuel, ('hi')x365
07:35 chris well in the whole scheme of things, commits are only 1 part of making a succesful free software product and community
07:34 nahuel mc, I already said "hi" to you!
07:34 mc hi nahuel
07:34 nahuel hi all :)
07:34 mc well chris i have to admit i don't comit at all for the moment :)
07:33 mc hehe
07:30 chris mc: http://git.workbuffer.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=docs/history.txt; i think by friday i will be up to your first commit :)
07:28 chris then i could pull from your development branches :)
07:27 mc chris, maybe ;-)
07:27 chris maybe biblibre could set up git.biblibre.com
07:27 Kivutar mc: hahahah
07:27 mc BTW: symbolic references rulez and i wonder if it would been so easy in python :)
07:26 chris cool :)
07:25 Kivutar chris: i have to reorganize my code a little bit, then i send it to you by mail
07:25 mc (use the tests as doc for the moment)
07:25 Kivutar ok
07:25 mc see the sources in Koha::Tools
07:24 Kivutar mc: not yet, can you remind me in which file it is?
07:22 mc :)
07:22 mc i dream about a complete alternative koha api based on it!
07:21 chris that would be great
07:21 mc ?
07:21 mc Kivutar, did you looked at my newsubscription wrapper
07:21 mc hello
07:20 Kivutar no, but i can send you a tar.gz
07:19 chris do you have a git branch online anywhere?
07:19 chris excellent
07:18 Kivutar i have implemented almost all the ils-di services needed by sopac2
07:17 Kivutar hi chris
07:13 chris hi Kivutar, hows the api goin?
07:09 chris right, bathed, books read, teeth brushed and in bed
06:54 bignose-work using 'aptitude' FTW, but yes.
05:30 mason done an 'apt-get update' after adding the repo lines??
05:29 mason yeah, should be ok...
05:28 bignose-work via that repository I don't have an 'idzebra' package available, only an 'idzebra-2.0' package. is that the right one?
05:24 mason http://ftp.indexdata.dk/pub/zebra/ubuntu/README
05:24 bignose-work mason: are those URLs part of an APT-suitable repository?
05:23 mason good luck bignose, and chris too ;)
05:22 bignose-work chris: thanks for the help
05:22 chris im sure they do
05:22 mason so they hopefully avoid the libssl hack
05:22 chris bignose-work: if they work you would be doing the community a big favour if you updated the wiki to say to use those :)
05:21 mason FYI : looks like the ubuntu debs appeared after the ubuntu guide
05:21 bignose-work mason: thanks
05:20 mason that might work better for you
05:20 mason http://ftp.indexdata.dk/pub/zebra/ubuntu/8.04/
05:19 mason http://ftp.indexdata.dk/pub/yaz/ubuntu/8.04/
05:19 mason so you get to experiment with those , if yr curious..
05:19 mason well, there are hardy 8.04 deb up on id.dk...
05:18 chris ive used them with debian, never tried them with ubuntu
05:16 bignose-work I guess not, for Ubuntu 8.04
05:16 bignose-work so is using the Debian-packaged 'yaz' (and 'idzebra'?) advised for smooth operation?
05:13 chris if they havent already
05:13 bignose-work chris: shall move to private chat
05:12 chris s/you file/you could file/
05:12 chris you file a bug in ubuntu and get them to package yaz
05:12 chris well no, it works fine with etch, so i dont think indexdata will change the etch packages
05:11 bignose-work hurm. a known bug being busily addressed with a fix? :-)
05:11 mason as per the guide... ;)
05:10 mason "Install libssl0.9.7 ( Needed For Yaz ). Hardy has libssl0.9.8, but yaz won’t install with that one. We need to download the older version and install it by hand. (2.1mb)."
05:10 bignose-work but the 'yaz' and 'idzebra' packages depend on an obsolete 'libssl0.9.7', when Ubuntu hardy only has 'libssl0.9.8'
05:09 mason *nod*
05:09 bignose-work I've got Ubuntu 8.04 hardy installed, and am looking at the IndexData repositories for 'etch'
05:06 mason i have used the guide a few weeks ago for a hardy install, it worked fine ;)
05:04 mason bignose its a good start
05:01 Amit hi bignose-work u means
05:00 bignose-work it's very detailed and helpful, but it looks like the kind of thing that dates very quickly.
05:00 bignose-work to what extent should I trust <URL: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=koha_3_install_guide_ubuntu_hardy > ?
04:21 SelfishMan Well, thanks for all the info everyone
03:55 SelfishMan chris: looks like it!
03:54 chris break things? :)
03:53 SelfishMan I've rebuilt the index so I'll watch it and see what happens. It looks like someone has been playing with this install so I'll have to find out what they are trying to do
03:53 mason yep, and a zebra* restart after too, just in case...
03:52 chris so id try 2 things, upping the index size in the config and specifying a directory
03:51 chris unless ($directory) { $use_tempdir = 1; $directory = tempdir(CLEANUP => ($keep_export ? 0 : 1));
03:51 chris otherwise
03:51 chris SelfishMan: you can use the -d switch to tell it where you want it to dump the files
03:49 mason $ sudo apt-get munin
03:49 mason hey amit ;)
03:49 mason and its been always one/some of the issues mentioned above
03:48 mason i have had the '"mf_write: ' error a few times myself...
03:48 chris yeah that script has to dump out all the xml files somewhere to have zebra index them
03:47 SelfishMan -w disables the shadow index
03:47 mason fyi rebuild_zeb.pl uses /tmp
03:47 SelfishMan The index s less than 4G
03:47 brendan then run it again with a -w ( I think just checking to make sure the -w does what I think it does)
03:46 brendan mason ++
03:45 brendan try changing the limit --
03:45 mason shadow: /home/mason/koha/pce/var/lib/zebradb/biblios/shadow:4G
03:45 mason register: /home/mason/koha/pce/var/lib/zebradb/biblios/register:4G
03:45 mason or you are hitting the default limit for index size in your zebra-biblios.cfg file
03:45 SelfishMan There isn't a single setting in zebra-biblios.cfg pointing at /tmp
03:43 SelfishMan ok
03:43 mason re: ... "mf_write: sort81 error (4) no more space" when running 'rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z'?
03:43 chris in your zebra-biblios.cfg
03:42 mason as chris mentioned Selfish , your /tmp is prolly filling up
03:42 Amit hi mason
03:42 mason hi folks
03:42 chris but for biblios
03:42 chris not the bibliography records, you want to take a look at the line that looks a lot like that
03:41 chris ie the authority records
03:41 chris what brendan is saying is that line you pasted above, is fof the authorities
03:41 brendan you could running the zebra indexing with a -w (I believe that will not fill up your shadow...
03:40 brendan I'm not sure last time I looked at was early 3.0 - maybe that has changed let me look at my current one
03:40 SelfishMan so what is shadow indexing then?
03:39 brendan or add -w flag when running the zebra
03:39 SelfishMan brendan: Well that means someone has been tweaking settings. Am I reading that line correctly though?
03:39 Amit in zebradb folder
03:38 brendan Hey SelfishMan look for the line that says biblios instead of authorities -- I think the default was 4G
03:36 brendan heya Amit
03:36 Amit good morning koha
03:36 Amit hi chris, mason, brendan
03:33 chris zebra does some cool stuff .. .the docs on it suck though
03:33 chris yes, yes i think so
03:33 chris sorry work called
02:52 SelfishMan Am I correct when I interpret that line as the shadow file being allocated 16GB of disk space?
02:52 SelfishMan enabling shadow spec=/usr/local/koha/var/lib/zebradb/authorities/shadow:16G
02:46 chris right
02:46 SelfishMan The queue daemon has been running but I'm not sure if it has been hitting errors
02:45 SelfishMan Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I'm rebuilding the entire zebra index to see if that fixes it and then I can try to diagnose why it is going out of sync
02:45 chris but if you are seeing results like that, it sounds like the search results are using what zebra says
02:43 chris so i would hope it uses the database as the definitive
02:42 chris yeah zebra is always going to lag
02:42 chris ahh i guess it is just using zebra then
02:42 SelfishMan which is why I started looking at zebra thinking that maybe it was out of sync. Apparently items in the catalog are showing as available even when checked out.
02:42 chris id hope it would check the database
02:42 SelfishMan 'available' is defined as (items.onloan is NULL) and (items.itemlost = 0) In English: all records not indexed in the onloan register (zebra) and all records with a value of lost equal to 0
02:41 chris it used to just check the issues table
02:40 SelfishMan ha ha ha
02:40 chris pass
02:40 SelfishMan is items.onloan being checked if zebra is in use?
02:40 SelfishMan so, looking at the code it says that an item is available if zebra reports it as not on loan and it isn't lost but there is also mention of items.onloan being checked
02:38 SelfishMan It claims to be putting it on the 30GB partition
02:38 chris like /tmp ?
02:37 chris its not trying to use a partition that is filling up?
02:34 SelfishMan The disk has 30GB free so it isn't running out of disk space
02:34 SelfishMan Anyone know why zebra would spit out "mf_write: sort81 error (4) no more space" when running 'rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z'?
20:00 brendan instead of always catching up!
20:00 brendan finally getting a little time to be active on the IRC
20:00 chris hiya brendan
20:00 pianohacker Hello, brendan
20:00 brendan heya owen, fredericd pianohacker, chris
19:59 brendan staff could = more power than librarians
19:59 chris yeah
19:59 pianohacker Yeah, especially since librarian in the US tends to have to connotation of "with college degree"
19:59 brendan I guess you could mix up
19:59 chris staff is probably a better one to use
19:58 chris i think we mix it up
19:58 pianohacker In the interface, do we generally call staff users "staff" or "librarians"?
19:57 chris http://www.vimeo.com/2113477?pg=embed&sec=2113477
19:57 chris t
19:57 chris this is my favourite french video at the momen
19:55 chris maybe if i spoke french it would :)
19:55 fredericd http://www.lachansondudimanche.com/
19:54 fredericd I don't send you French Flight of the conchors, the won't make you laugh.
19:53 fredericd Kiwis successful in US: a story like yours
19:52 chris they always make me laugh
19:52 chris they are from wellington too :)
19:52 chris heh :)
19:51 fredericd sure Chris... like that http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5hrUGFhsXo
19:49 chris Ca va?
19:47 fredericd bonsoir !
19:46 chris bon soir fredericd
19:46 chris that one sounds pretty interesting
19:46 chris http://twitter.com/servantek/statuses/1425236433
19:45 chris i know a couple of people there, i wonder if they went to it
19:45 chris cool
19:45 chris orly?
19:29 owen Oh, I see...some folks from Arcadia University
19:27 owen I see tweets about a Koha presentation at CIL 2009. Anyone know who's doing it?
12:57 hdl_laptop mail sent this morning.
12:57 hdl_laptop hi owen hi gmcharlt
12:55 gmcharlt hi hdl_laptop
12:35 owen Hi hdl_laptop
12:33 hdl_laptop gmcharlt: ?
12:33 hdl_laptop hi