Time  Nick       Message
04:32 Amit       yes
04:31 mason      no problem, i hope it was helpful
04:29 Amit       thanks for mail
04:29 mason      heya amit / brendan
04:28 Amit       namaste mason
04:28 Amit       hi brendan
04:23 brendan    hey amit, chris, mason,  all others around!
03:51 mason      namaste amit
03:25 Amit       good morning koha
03:25 Amit       hi chris, mason
03:01 twb        I'll stick to ratpoison and xmonad, thanks.
03:01 chris      awesome rules
02:40 ron        meh...
02:39 twb        ron: er, no: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Awesome_(window_manager)
02:37 ron        s/window/sales/
02:37 twb        ron: a window manager.
02:37 ron        what's awesome?
02:28 atz        awesome
00:21 ron        yep, understood
00:20 twb        ron: I can do packaging work, and I can do a tarball deployment in OpenVZ at ACT, but I don't think I'm the right person to be working on koha itself -- after all, I have not used koha before.
00:19 twb        The wiki page is http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=debian_packaging_work
00:18 twb        The last posts on http://bugs.debian.org/389876 explain how far Vincent got, and the roadblocks he ran into.
00:18 twb        ron: one moment, I will find the URL
00:17 ron        I haven't read the wiki
00:17 twb        ron: which part, the documentation of existing scripts and other parts mentioned on the wiki page?
00:17 ron        never mind. you've got other projects. ;-)
00:17 ron        twb: do you want to take this on?
00:16 chris      if you can find someone to pay to document those scripts, then them ... otherwise just bring up that wiki page on the koha-devel list and hope someone has time/desire to do it
00:15 twb        ron: for the ACT facility, yes -- though I recommend doing that inside an OpenVZ jail.
00:15 ron        twb: is it viable to install the tarball in the meantime, then replace it later with a 'proper' deb?
00:15 twb        chris: OK, and who do we nag about that?
00:14 chris      the packages can be finished
00:14 chris      on the wiki
00:14 chris      basically if we answer the questions
00:14 ron        I've emailed MJ. He was passing the email onto others, but no other response as yet
00:14 chris      *nod*
00:14 twb        However I think MJ and I can leverage Vincent's incomplete work.
00:14 chris      since he knows debian and koha
00:14 chris      MJ might be just the man you are after
00:14 ron        twb: ahh... ok. thx
00:13 twb        ron: Vincent is essentially no longer the (prospective) maintainer; MJ is.
00:13 chris      free time, so I do not want to promise some work with a deadline.                                         However, I'm still interested in having a Koha packaging for Debian.
00:13 ron        I still want to feed some funds to the community
00:13 chris      I do not really wish to be fund for this work. I do not have a lot of
00:13 ron        oh. heh
00:13 chris      no he doenst want to be paid to be responsible
00:13 ron        chris: so who would be responsible?
00:13 twb        Hi.
00:13 ron        howdy twb
00:13 ron        but he doesn't want to be responsible for the deb
00:13 ron        ok
00:12 chris      so he needs the developers to tell him
00:12 chris      basically he is jsut saying he doesnt know what a pile of scripts do
00:12 chris      its still a goer
00:11 ron        what's your thoughts? is this still a goer, or will we have trouble with the patches?
00:11 chris      yep
00:11 ron        chris: got it?
00:08 chris      what did he say?
00:08 ron        at least, he's not willing to take this on
00:08 chris      http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=debian_packaging_work
00:08 ron        the response wasn't so good though
00:08 ron        ok
00:08 chris      and i see vincent has updated the wiki
00:07 chris      sweet yeah i saw a couple of emails
00:07 ron        chris: I got a response back re the deb packaging of koha
22:26 imp        but with firefox the setup doesn't behave like this
22:26 imp        might be due the fact my server started swapping because of ~10 processes of intranet/cgi-bin/errors/404.pl....
22:25 imp        and konqueror somehow manages to nearly DOS the system... load is about 20 only if the main page is requested
22:15 imp        fyi: filled some gentoo tickets with koha deps -> #262712 #262715 #262717 #262718 #262721 #262723 #262726 #262728 #262729 #262732 #262735
17:38 imp        ryan_: ok, thanks
17:33 ryan_      imp: yes, it should be ok to do this, however, I wouldn't bother with NoZebra unless you have < 5k records.
17:31 imp        is it possible to switch later from a zebra-free installation to zebra?
17:02 imp        http://pastebin.ca/1362386
15:13 jwagner    Multitasking is a need-cessity these days....
15:13 owen       that's okay, one expects as much on IRC
15:12 jwagner    Hi owen -- sorry, was working on another screen.
15:01 SelfishMan I'm actually in the process of extracting the jackets from  the warc files
15:00 atz        interesting point
14:59 SelfishMan atz: One of the perks of openlibrary is the fact that all the data is available for download so it can be cached locally
14:58 atz        SelfishMan: openlibrary performance may not be as good though
14:58 SelfishMan I've been looking at trying to make the outside content modular so people can use their own custom modules.  In the end that is probably a better solution.
14:57 SelfishMan Plus no query limits or license ambiguities
14:57 atz        before we try to bolt-on more of the same (large) template conditionals
14:57 SelfishMan For the most part it handles 10 and 13 digit ISBNs very well and seems to have a better jacket selection than Amazon and google combined
14:57 atz        i think we need to totally rework the system for jacket images at least...
14:57 atz        yeah, there are a dozen or more sources considered
14:56 SelfishMan Has anyone considered using openlibrary.org instead of amazon?
14:56 danny      liblime recently submitted a bunch of patches dealing with amazon content, so I was going to wait a bit till those got pushed before making more changes
14:54 owen       Hi jwagner
14:50 danny      I agree
14:49 owen       And we're starting to see records with only the 13-digit ISBN, so getting to see those covers will be good too
14:49 owen       I'll be happy to see better results for cover images. I know our patrons would like to see DVD covers.
14:47 danny      I wanted to test it though because I am curious to see how much it increases the load time
14:46 danny      currently with the images you are hitting amazon once to load the image from them, but if we pull it from the XML it will be hitting amazon twice, once to get the image url and a second time to load the image
14:44 danny      since you are hitting amazon for each result
14:44 danny      I had some concerns about that
14:42 owen       Wouldn't that be too slow if you wanted to pull covers for search results?
14:40 danny      right
14:40 danny      well it can match based on different identifiers, such as EAN or UPC
14:39 owen       ...because it will use EAN, etc. ?
14:39 danny      if we can have it grab the image from the amazon xml then it will also pull much more cover art from amazon
14:39 danny      right, that is correct, I had planned to submit a follow-up patch to deal with cover images
14:38 owen       That didn't touch the issue of book cover images, correct?
14:37 owen       I see you submitted a change a few months ago that dealt with that
14:37 owen       I'm thinking about 13-digit isbns and Amazon content
14:37 danny      hey owen, yes I am
14:36 owen       Hey danny, you there?
13:32 kf         configure libraries in koha, add two columns, one for holding branch, one for homebranch 952$a and $b with library code
13:31 kf         you need to configure it in database
13:21 lostalien  SelfishMan: i think, i need to add branch column in excel sheet..
13:20 lostalien  SelfishMan: i have inserted the accession number in 952p as you said but i am getting error regarding branch .
13:16 lostalien  thanks bro.
13:15 SelfishMan lostalien: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:documentation:marc21holdings_holdings_data_information_for_vendors&s=952
13:13 lostalien  can anyone tell me marc tag for library branch?
13:11 lostalien  SelfishMan: what is marc tag for library branch?
13:07 hdl_laptop hi owen
12:59 hdl_laptop gmcharlt: around ?
12:07 greenmang0 anasha: PM?
12:07 anasha     greemang0, yup
12:07 greenmang0 anasha:
11:57 lostalien  SelfishMan: thank you ... i will let u know if i find some error...
11:55 Amit       hi nahuel
11:53 lostalien  okk
11:52 SelfishMan lostalien: Then insert the accession number in 952p
11:52 anasha     greenmang0:
11:52 anasha     lostalien:
11:51 lostalien  but our client have not provided it to us...accession number will do
11:50 SelfishMan yep.  You need to add barcodes.
11:49 lostalien  SelfishMan: i can search that impoted record in koha but cant issue book to patron because of barcode is not available for that book
11:47 lostalien  so i need to add that column in order to issue book to patron
11:47 lostalien  SelfishMan: slef: i want to migrate excel data into koha d/b.but excelsheet dont have barcode column
11:39 SelfishMan You will want to assign the barcode to 952p though
11:39 SelfishMan That sounds painful and nasty
11:38 lostalien  SelfishMan:i want to migrate data from excel sheet to koha d/b. and i am using marcedit for that.
11:33 lostalien  thanks
11:32 SelfishMan 952p in koha but 852p is common from what I've seen
11:30 slef       If you mean item barcode, I think it'll be in a 9xx (952?) field rather than part of the mainstream marc because it's per-item not per-biblio
11:29 lostalien  can someone tell me marc tag for barcode?
11:23 greenmang0 slef: yes
11:10 slef       greenmang0: do you have SMS::Send installed?
11:10 Amit       hi wxcv
11:09 wxcv       :-)
11:09 wxcv       hello koha-fans
11:08 greenmang0 slef: i even skipped CPAN
11:06 slef       interesting
11:06 greenmang0 slef: it does
11:02 slef       as in - does it work with koha? ;-)