Time  Nick        Message
09:08 kf           :)
09:08 chris       cool, just got a photo from croatia, ... thats nz, samoa, cook islands and croatia now
09:04 Amit        gm
09:04 Amit        hi kf
09:04 chris       hi kf
09:04 kf          good morning chris, amit, paul and #koha
09:03 chris       night si
09:02 Amit        hi paul
09:02 Amit        bye
09:02 Amit        good night si
09:01 paul_p      bye si
09:01 si          gnight all
09:01 si          ok, time I walked the dogs
08:59 Amit        yes
08:59 Amit        i like
08:59 si          which is to say, there are other good players on the NZ team, but only vettori turns up ready to play every day
08:59 Amit        brendan mccullum is good bastman
08:58 Amit        y
08:58 chris       hehe
08:58 si          it's a pity we only have the one...
08:58 si          he's a terrific player
08:56 Amit        vittorio is my favourite
08:54 Amit        hmm
08:54 chris       spinning all around amit
08:53 Amit        means washingmachine
08:53 Amit        hi si
08:52 Amit        hmmm my too
08:52 si          plus, he bowls like he's inside a washingmachine
08:52 chris       hehe true
08:52 si          anybody who winds up australians and englishmen as well as he does is all good
08:51 chris       sehwag
08:50 Amit        chris who is your favourite player in indian team
08:50 Amit        hi paul
08:48 chris       night brendan
08:47 paul_p      sunny morning here...
08:47 paul_p      sweet dreams brendan
08:47 brendan     good night all -- hopefully getting some sleep -- talk to you all tomorrow
08:43 brendan     cricinfo 3D - kind of neat
08:42 chris       one day international
08:42 brendan     ODI ?
08:40 brendan     ok -- thinking reading cricinfo is the way to go
08:39 Elwell      geoIP sucks bigtime sometimes
08:38 Elwell      reminds me. Must get a tunneling working so my soundbridge appears in the UK
08:38 chris       if india is playing i bet its on tv somewhere in the US :)
08:38 chris       its more fun reading cricinfo than the radio anyway :)
08:38 si          and I don't think radio sport is allowed to stream oversease
08:38 chris       yeah
08:37 si          I wouldn't have thought the tv coverage is streaming - those rights are pretty aggressively stiched up by the local pay tv channel
08:37 chris       it will be on cricinfo
08:37 brendan     I'd say go -- everything is always better live!
08:37 si          guess I'll wait on the weather
08:36 chris       01:00 GMT
08:36 brendan     is it streaming online?
08:36 brendan     anybody give me a ping tomorrow when the NZ vs. India cricket starts....
08:35 brendan     oh well --
08:34 brendan     but -- I'd also been in india for awhile -- so maybe I was used to the craziness
08:33 brendan     I guess I was at a tame match.
08:31 si          my recollections of watching cricket in India on tv was always NZ losing in some kind of useless fashion and the locals celebrating by setting fire to anything wooden in the stadium
08:30 si          did they set fire to the seats?
08:28 brendan     I'm back for more -- so it wasn't that bad
08:28 brendan     it was my first experience with cricket.
08:28 si          and there's a lot less people
08:27 si          they're pretty raucous here
08:27 si          I'm guessing that would have been great fun
08:27 brendan     when I was in India -- I went to a live cricket match.
08:27 chris       you can even get out if they smash you in the head, knock your helmet off and it falls on the stumps (happened to a nzer once)
08:26 si          yes, except that it wouldn't be a walk, it would be regard as a good effort if it connected
08:26 brendan     in baseball terms --- the high cheese
08:26 si          so theres an element of fear there which makes batsmen do odd things
08:25 si          and also because the bowler is allowed to aim for your head
08:25 brendan     mad --- that's such a great word....
08:25 si          so it does all sorts of mad stuff once it hits the ground
08:24 si          primarily because the ball isn't round
08:24 brendan     and I understand now - why
08:24 chris       :)
08:24 brendan     but then I tried it myself
08:24 brendan     after playing baseball my whole life -- I never understand how a cricket player could not strike the ball with such a big bat...
08:23 chris       :)
08:23 brendan     I understand the basics of cricket -- so I definitely see how the grasses etc. play into effect..
08:23 chris       yes, in cricket you bounce the ball when bowling, so the conditions of the ground can make a big difference
08:22 si          in fact, it's a miracle anybody wins away from home :-)
08:22 si          and they use different balls in different countries as well
08:22 si          so local players who are familiar with local conditions have some advantages
08:22 chris       :)
08:22 chris       si: havent planned that far ahead
08:21 si          brendan: also the techniques/soils/grasses used for the pitch vary widely from country to country
08:21 mc          i'll continue to explore when i will have time
08:21 mc          chris, i spent some time to explore ORMs during the code4lib. I wasn't happy. I discovered http://www.iinteractive.com/kiokudb/ that is very attractive
08:21 brendan     I used to be an umpire for baseball so I know the rules pretty well
08:20 brendan     baseball has weird rules -- but I love it - so I will do my best.
08:20 Amit        yes
08:20 Amit        yes
08:20 brendan     home field advantage.
08:19 si          it tends to favour the local team
08:19 Amit        but india has good batting lineup
08:19 si          brendan: wellington can be a miserable cold windy place to play cricket
08:19 si          chris, are you going tomorrow night?
08:18 Amit        i think wellington ground is small
08:18 brendan     really would that make a difference
08:18 Amit        yes
08:18 chris       mc: yes
08:18 chris       but nz usually win in wellington
08:18 chris       it depends on who bats first
08:17 Amit        my favourite sachin
08:17 Amit        yes
08:17 brendan     at a bar in bangalore
08:17 Amit        good
08:17 brendan     My best friend had his picture taken with sachin tendulkar
08:16 Amit        means
08:16 brendan     USA - doesn't really ever follow
08:16 Amit        chris ?
08:15 Amit        hmm
08:15 brendan     tough call
08:15 Amit        brendan
08:15 Amit        who is ur favourite team
08:14 brendan     hehe
08:14 Amit        hi brendan
08:14 mc          it never rains in my cave :)
08:14 brendan     hi paul_p, mc Amit
08:14 mc          chris, a perl module ?
08:14 brendan     hopefully no rain...
08:14 Amit        hi mc
08:13 Amit        what would u say who win
08:13 mc          hello koha people
08:13 Amit        tomorrow India vs NZ
08:13 Amit        hi chris
08:13 paul_p      hello world.
08:12 chris       no rain
08:12 chris       hopefully its a full game
08:11 brendan     I see what i can learn this time
08:11 brendan     cool - tomorrow game 2...
08:06 chris       its being played in wellington
08:06 chris       tomorrow is game 2 vs india
08:06 chris       not tonight
08:02 brendan     it's always interesting to have something to monitor in the background
08:02 brendan     chris anymore interesting cricket to pay attention to this evening?
07:49 hdl_laptop1 I had a problem with internet access yesterday
07:49 brendan     *agrees*
07:49 hdl_laptop1 well ... not that much.
07:48 brendan     your screen name is always changing...
07:48 brendan     hi hdl_laptop1
07:47 hdl_laptop1 hi brendan
07:47 brendan     heya chris
07:47 chris       hi brendan
07:47 brendan     just seeing who's around.
07:47 brendan     hi #koha
21:18 ryan        everybody wins!
21:16 chris       heh
21:16 gmcharlt    his prize is implementing it
21:16 ryan        does that disqualify darrell for his 'very special prize' ?
21:15 owen        It's a good one too. Too bad it's an enhancement :|
21:14 chris       heh cool
21:13 ryan        koha milestone reached:  three thousand bug reports (!)
20:39 chris       heh
20:38 owen        Dang, once again I failed to get in on the ground floor of an exciting internet meme.
20:32 chris       heh
20:32 gmcharlt    sideways
20:32 slef        front
20:02 chris       back
18:54 chris       morning
18:37 danny       further down I see... $data->{itypenotforloan} = $data->{notforloan} if (C4::Context->preference('item-level_itypes'));
18:37 danny       I was trying to read through the function too...
18:29 owen        ...wait, but GetItemsInfo() doesn't select itemtypes.notforloan does it?
18:28 gmcharlt    admittedly clear as mud
18:28 owen        Gotcha!
18:27 gmcharlt    owen: it's to distinguish items.notforloan from itemtypes.notforloan
18:27 hdl_laptop1 But this might be correct.
18:26 hdl_laptop1 MMMM... I donot have time enough to dive into things.
18:14 owen        See line 138 of opac-reserve.pl
18:14 owen        I guess in some instances to be able to reference items.notforloan as itemnotforloan...but in opac-reserve.pl they're referenced as if they're different things
18:13 owen        Does that explain why GetItemsInfo() would select both "items.*" and "items.notforloan as itemnotforloan" ?
18:12 hdl_laptop1 so a status.
18:12 hdl_laptop1 itemnotforloan seems to be a simple integer.
18:12 owen        ?
18:11 hdl_laptop1 (binding... etc.)
18:11 hdl_laptop1 notforloan seems to be the reason
18:11 hdl_laptop1 owen : yeah it looks Weird.
17:54 owen        ...so opac-reserve.pl will say your item is for loan if items.notforloan isn't set AND if items.notforloan is < 1 ?
17:51 owen        *Is* there a difference between $itm->{'notforloan'} and $itm->{'itemnotforloan'}? GetItemsInfo() selects both "items.*" and "items.notforloan as itemnotforloan"
17:40 owen        What's the difference between $itm->{'notforloan'} and $itm->{'itemnotforloan'}?
17:38 owen        if (!$itm->{'notforloan'} && !($itm->{'itemnotforloan'} > 0)){ $forloan=1; }
17:36 owen        Oh, it's not the barcode, it's the notforloan value. I keep thinking it's one and not the other
17:35 owen        I can't place a hold on an item which has no barcode. Where is Koha enforcing that check?
16:24 gmcharlt    hdl_laptop: anyway, let me know if/when you're ready to continue the skype
16:22 paul_p      (I have headphones, so I often miss skype pings, as there is no noise & I have 2 screens 21" + 13")
16:22 paul_p      ah, ok
16:22 gmcharlt    we were in a middle of a Skype, but his computer dropped off
16:22 paul_p      strange, he was waiting for your call
16:22 paul_p      couldn't you catch him ?
16:21 paul_p      oups, i missed it.
16:21 gmcharlt    paul_p: sorry about the Skype ping, was trying to get hdl_laptop
16:15 schuster    You could have your own schedule NOT published to the rest of us.
16:14 schuster    Since I have your attention!  Is there a need for the "developers" to get together during the conference for your own "track" of meetings/sessions?  I could possibly get a room at the center just for that when you are not presenting to the mass population...
16:12 schuster    http, https - should work without problems.  SSH will have to see if I can determine that.  Thanks again.  the other mail pieces as long as you are on your laptop/computer should work too, but I'll check.
16:08 paul_p      schuster: + http, https, pop, imap and smtp
16:08 paul_p      + http, https, pop, imap and smtp
16:08 paul_p      kados: ++, would be very very interesting.
16:03 kados       schuster: if you could check whether SSH works that would be great as well
16:02 schuster    OK that is easy enough.  Thanks
16:02 schuster    Im going over there in about 45 minutes so wanted to check to make sure people could get to things they needed during the conference through the wireless bluesocket connection.
16:01 gmcharlt    from a Unix or Windows commandline, try telnet irc.citylink.co.nz 6667 and see if it connects
16:01 schuster    Is there an easy way to check that?  I believe it will be open through the wireless from what I have been told...  Wired workstation will not have that open.
16:00 gmcharlt    but really, making sure that port 6667 outbound is open, at least to irc.citylink.co.nz, should be enough regardless of what client people use
16:00 gmcharlt    X-Chat Aqua
15:59 paul_p      I use konversation
15:59 paul_p      hi schuster.
15:58 schuster    Paul and others...  What IRC client do you use?  I want to make sure it works at the conference center for April
14:15 jwagner     Thanks much.  I'll look into the Apache settings.
14:14 gmcharlt    jwagner: yes, it probably would be possible to do it through Apache proxy hackery
14:12 nahuel      gmcharlt, arg, i'll redo it for HEAD and keep you tuned
14:11 gmcharlt    nahuel: your patch for bug 2996 doesn't apply - it looks like I'm missing a patch that translated those templates from French to English
14:10 jwagner     So it's not possible to use the AutoLocation syspref and limit by multiple IPs/ranges?  But we can do that through Apache?
14:10 nahuel      gmcharlt, yes :)
14:09 gmcharlt    jwagner: the branch IP currently only takes a single IP address or a subset represented by xxx.xxx.xxx.* or xxx.xxx.*.*
14:06 jwagner     Is someone handy who knows the syntax for entering IPs in the Library setup's IP field?  I need to enter several individual IPs and ranges.  I tried doing xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx,xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx,xxx.xxx.xxx.* etc, but it truncated at xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx,xxx. -- how can I enter multiple IPs and ranges?
14:05 gmcharlt    ok
14:05 paul_p      gmcharlt: hello. Nahuel is outdoor just for a cigarette.
14:05 gmcharlt    nahuel: about?
13:46 owen        SelfishMan: did you ever find the IRC logs? http://koha.org/cgi-bin/logs.pl