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10:53 nahuel gmcharlt, zotero should work with marc21 and my new patch :)
09:27 paul_p hi chris
09:26 chris hi paul
08:28 chris i think having language packs available for download, seperate to the main koha download will be quite useful
08:28 chris yeah
08:28 hdl_laptop al the more that even if translation appear complete now, there are still some sentences missing.
08:26 chris i figure that way, if someone comes along and wants to add a new language they wont have to wait for the next release either
08:26 chris cool
08:25 hdl_laptop I am OK with that idea.
08:24 chris does that sound like a good idea?
08:23 chris that way we dont have to wait for every translation to finish before we release
08:23 chris with instructions how to download them and copy them to the right place so people can use them
08:22 chris and we can release with that, then ppl can keep translating and ill put up translated templates as they finish them
08:22 hdl_laptop I would like to release next week.
08:22 chris i have a plan, that when you want to release I can tell you all the finished translations
08:21 hdl_laptop morning here.... ;p Good evening NZanders.
08:20 mason evening all
08:20 hdl_laptop cool.
08:20 chris galen sorted out gitosis for me, so i have been pushing updates to there
08:19 chris hi hdl
07:44 SelfishMan morning
07:44 chris evening
00:03 SelfishMan Ah. Ok
00:03 chris koha in maori sounds almost identical to how you pronounce coja in spanish
00:03 SelfishMan As long as I don't have to roll an R, yes
00:02 chris selfishman: can you speak spanish?
00:00 chris some mp3's of the vowel and consonant sounds there
00:00 chris http://www.korero.maori.nz/forlearners/basics/pronunciation.html
00:00 SelfishMan My linguistic skills apply to hearing spoken languages. I can pick up most languages rather quick but can't speak them to save my life
23:59 chris that it was hard to type phonetically? youve never done any linguistics papers then eh? :)
23:57 SelfishMan I never thought I would hear that over four letters!
23:57 chris cos you guys pronounce english diff to us
23:57 chris its hard to type it phonetically
23:56 chris i bet i can find someone saying it 2 secs
23:56 SelfishMan and that would be?
23:55 chris and spanish, and japanese
23:54 chris as maori
23:54 chris samoan and hawaian would pronounce it the same as maori, same vowel sounds
23:43 SelfishMan I recently found a shrinkwrapped copy of it that I acquired years ago
23:42 SelfishMan Yep!
23:42 gmcharlt the distaff relative of MS Bob? ;)
23:40 SelfishMan ha ha ha
23:40 si but amongst his many other talents, chris has a degree in Maori, so he's more definitive than me
23:39 si hawaiian and samoan have pretty similar vowel sounds
23:38 si yup
23:37 SelfishMan I think most peple see it and think more polynesian and pronounce it koh-ha
23:37 SelfishMan I don't doubt it
23:37 si that would be close to the standard Maori pronounciation
23:36 si I kid you not
23:36 SelfishMan Ha
23:35 si ha as in hard
23:35 si cor as in apple core
23:35 si SelfishMan: he'd say it something like cor-Ha
23:28 SelfishMan chris: I'm curious how *you* pronounce it
23:27 chris but first, lunch
23:25 chris http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPzWTM32FAw
21:44 danny yay! after wrestling with IE7 and Firefox all day I think I finally got the javascript piece working correctly
20:46 gmcharlt atz: yes
20:45 atz gmcharlt: do you want the patch via patches list?
20:20 atz yeah, it goes on to enumerate all the *other* biblioitems fields... ok it's making sense to me now
20:19 gmcharlt and that query doesn't retrieve them
20:19 gmcharlt marc and marcxml are columns in biblioitems
20:19 gmcharlt right
20:19 atz i guess that is safe b/c it isn't biblioitems?
20:18 atz my $query = "SELECT items.*,biblio.*, .....
20:18 atz http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=Koha;a=blob;f=C4/Items.pm;h=98e65869338dd8c109dca881fff4d72d5cb442d6;hb=2dcca73ae0bdfb18728cc867180df892873bf601
20:17 atz greets chris
20:17 gmcharlt hi chris
20:16 chris morning
20:16 atz just because there are better C4 API for getting a MARC::Record object from the DB
20:16 atz i don't think anybody makes use of it (superficial review)
20:15 atz odd... i just rebased
20:15 gmcharlt are there any consumers for GetItemsInfo that are still expecting it?
20:15 gmcharlt I pushed a patch from Michael a while back to remove that
20:15 gmcharlt it should *not*, rather
20:14 gmcharlt no, it should
20:14 atz it seems to be unnecessary (for at least the staff details page)
20:13 atz gmcharlt: should C4::Items::GetItemsInfo still return the marc and marcxml fields?
18:41 jdavidb rch: Sorry--was off at lunch. No, I've not updated nekls-test
17:51 hdl_laptop so that you can tell what you think
17:50 gmcharlt cool
17:50 gmcharlt C4;:AuthoritiesMarc::UNIMARC, perhaps
17:49 gmcharlt C4::AuthoritiesMarc::MARC21
17:49 hdl_laptop (for authorities only.)
17:49 hdl_laptop )
17:49 hdl_laptop (If exists.
17:49 hdl_laptop And I manage Add And Modification.
17:49 gmcharlt I agree that that function belongs in C4
17:48 hdl_laptop except that I added functions to AuthoritiesMarc.pm in order to guess authtypecode and get authid from record rather than putting it directly in bulkimport, thinking that we might need that somewhere els..
17:46 hdl_laptop But anyway, seems quite the same as what I did in bulkmarcimport.
17:43 hdl_laptop bulkauthimport looks ok.
17:43 hdl_laptop I was wrong.
17:42 hdl_laptop gmcharlt: No.
17:42 gmcharlt in any event, I have no objection to having bulkmarcimport handle both bibs and authorities, as long as code is structured well
17:41 gmcharlt not sure it was actually deprecated, given that there was no alternative until now
17:41 paul_p see you tomorrow guys (unless I broke a leg ;-) )
17:40 gmcharlt have fun, paul_p
17:40 paul_p ok, time to try to go back home by foot for me (with 10cm snow) ;-)
17:40 hdl_laptop It was deprecated anyway.
17:40 hdl_laptop I think so.
17:40 gmcharlt then bulkauthimport is going away?
17:39 paul_p (at least hdl and matthias for the data import)
17:39 paul_p (we are working for the 3 Marseille universities atm)
17:39 paul_p gmcharlt: bulkmarcimport
17:38 gmcharlt (but I'm confused: bulkmarcimport, or the staging import?)
17:38 gmcharlt hdl_laptop: no, you have free reign
17:37 hdl_laptop gmcharlt: has anyone worked on that at LL ?
17:36 hdl_laptop So I added this stuff.
17:36 hdl_laptop But it requires to be able from the record data to be able to determine the authtypecode.
17:36 hdl_laptop I have added authorities Import and update to bulkmarcimport.
17:35 gmcharlt sure
17:34 hdl_laptop Are those codes OK for you ?
17:34 hdl_laptop '185'=>{auth_type=>'FORM_SUBD'},
17:34 hdl_laptop '182'=>{auth_type=>'CHRON_SUBD'},
17:34 hdl_laptop '181'=>{auth_type=>'GEO_SUBDIV'},
17:34 hdl_laptop '180'=>{auth_type=>'GEN_SUBDIV'},
17:34 hdl_laptop Question : about subdivisions for authorities.
17:33 hdl_laptop hi
17:33 gmcharlt hdl_laptop: yes
17:33 hdl_laptop gmcharlt: around ?
17:14 paul_p thx ;-)
17:14 atz paul_p: good point re: ldap in 2.2
16:01 liz i can't wait for my munchkin to be old enough to go out and play in the snow
16:01 paul_p my sons probably did one ;-)
16:01 liz or snow angels (hehe)
16:01 liz paul_p: that's a beautiful photo... are you going to make a snow man?
15:16 nahuel i'm patching this
15:16 nahuel I try on opac-details ;)
15:15 nahuel ok
15:13 gmcharlt yes
15:13 nahuel gmcharlt, oh you talked about search result ?
14:50 nahuel just the 3rd notice have an incompatible record
14:43 nahuel the same
14:42 gmcharlt I'm using 1.0.9
14:41 gmcharlt what version of Zotero?
14:41 nahuel gmcharlt, I imported the datas, but it seem working fine...
14:17 hdl_laptop But understandable.
14:17 hdl_laptop rather counter intuitive.
14:17 hdl_laptop thx.
14:13 gmcharlt hdl_laptop: it's done in AddItemBatchFromMarc(), which calls ModBiblioMarc()
14:10 hdl_laptop gmcharlt: But marcxml data is then never updated.... Unless I miss something.
14:10 hdl_laptop This prevents update of marcxml data.
14:10 hdl_laptop gmcharlt: I have seen that bulkmarcimport uses defer_marc_save =>1
14:04 nahuel gmcharlt, received
14:03 nahuel webdev plugin
14:03 gmcharlt also, please validate the XHTML - I use the HTML Validator plugin for FF3
14:02 nahuel ok
14:01 gmcharlt for DB itself, just set up English and MARC21 and load all sample SQL scripts
14:01 nahuel i'll improve the marc21 record
14:01 nahuel gmcharlt, cool thank you
14:01 gmcharlt nahuel: I will send you a file of MARC21 bib records that I use for testing
13:58 nahuel does it exists a "demo" MARC21 database I can get to test it ?
13:57 nahuel i tested with a marc21installation and it works well...
13:57 gmcharlt that it breaks save results to Zotero
13:56 nahuel what is the stuff you don't like in the zotero patch ?
13:56 gmcharlt hi nahuel
13:56 nahuel gmcharlt, hi
13:46 paul_p + I heard some ppl complaining about the mayor, that didn't put salt on the streets... of course, Marseille don't have any equipment for that, and having them for once every 10 years would be tax consuming, but that wasn't taken into account by those crying ppl !
13:46 danny wow!
13:45 paul_p owen: yes, it's really fun to see the street totally empty. I came by foot to office (50mn), and saw 11 cars running (or trying to run for some of them)
13:37 gmcharlt shudders, even
13:36 owen paul_p: If snow is so rare, does no one know how to drive safely in it?
13:35 gmcharlt patches to remove scrolling_list whereever used welcome
13:35 gmcharlt so I don't expect this to last very long
13:35 gmcharlt owen: in any event, that script uses CGI::scrolling_list, which atz and others have been steadily removing
13:33 paul_p snow in marseille today : occurs once every 10 years or so. The view from our office :http://pepys.biblibre.com/neige.jpg
13:33 gmcharlt not the only place
13:33 owen Who, sorry--didn't realize that url was so monstrous
13:33 owen http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=Koha;a=blobdiff;f=circ/circulation.pl;h=bf2dca311b2b3c9016ec242a727975a6cdc96b9e;hp=14f94f1d6e812067d20fbab807d39a19c52a947d;hb=0506218f8bf386236bbf9a6b18c7b2ae886dbb4b;hpb=1c6fb506485b6e6529aaa359c7f9be1d66ec347e
13:33 paul_p in which case is there such embedding ?
13:33 danny morning #koha
13:32 paul_p 'morning owen