Time  Nick       Message
11:49 gmcharlt   chris: read scrollback, will await your public key
12:39 paul_p     hi gmcharlt
12:39 paul_p     good morning to you
13:09 gmcharlt   good morning paul_p
13:36 owen       Hi #koha
13:37 paul_p     hello owen.
13:37 paul_p     happy new year to you and your family !!!
13:37 owen       Thanks, you too!
13:44 hdl_laptop hi owen
13:44 hdl_laptop happy new year
13:44 hdl_laptop happy new year all liblimers
13:51 gmcharlt   hdl_laptop: thanks, and a very happy new year to all BibLibreans and to all Koha users
14:35 trepador   hello i have some problems during the instalation of koha
14:36 trepador   someone can help me
14:37 gmcharlt   trepador: what problems?
14:37 trepador   with perl modules
14:38 gmcharlt   details?
14:40 trepador   for example when i try to install this module, sudo perl -MCPAN -e 'install Biblio::EndnoteStyle'
14:41 trepador   the terminal shows me this :
14:41 trepador   CPAN.pm needs either both external programs tar and gzip installed or
14:41 trepador   both the modules Archive::Tar and Compress::Zlib. Neither prerequisite
14:41 trepador   is available. Can't continue.
14:41 trepador   what must i do?
14:41 gmcharlt   are the tar and gzip commands available on your server?
14:42 paul_p     trepador: which linux is your server running ?
14:42 danny      what operating system are you on?
14:42 paul_p     hehe danny : I won ;-)
14:42 trepador   kubuntu 8.04
14:42 danny      lol
14:43 trepador   desktop edition
14:44 trepador   i don't know if the tar and gzip commands are available on my server
14:44 trepador   how i konw this?
14:44 paul_p     enter gzip on a console
14:44 paul_p     and paste the result
14:45 paul_p     "command not found" => not installed
14:45 paul_p     gzip: compressed data not written to a terminal. Use -f to force compression.
14:45 paul_p     For help, type: gzip -h
14:45 paul_p     => it's installed
14:45 trepador   gzip: compressed data not written to a terminal. Use -f to force compression.
14:45 trepador   For help, type: gzip -h
14:45 paul_p     so, it's installed.
14:45 paul_p     Compress::Zlib is not installed
14:46 paul_p     try to install Compress::Zlib
14:46 trepador   ok thanks i'm gonna try
14:48 trepador   the system says that Compress::Zlib doesnt exist
14:49 trepador   E: No se pudo encontrar el paquete Zlib / Cant find Zlib package
14:53 trepador   how do i install Compress::Zlib, i tried whit sudo apt-get install Compress::Zlib, but it say to me the package doesnt exists
14:53 gmcharlt   trepador: it's a Perl module, so try
14:54 gmcharlt   sudo perl -MCPAN -e 'install Compress::Zlib'
14:54 trepador   ok
14:55 paul_p     mmm... you could also search for some ubuntu module like perl-zlib-compress
14:55 paul_p     (name not guaranteed at all)
14:55 paul_p     apt-cache search zlib maybe ?
14:55 danny      it is normally libcompress-zlib-perl
14:55 danny      apt-get install libcompress-zlib-perl, should be same as the cpan install
14:56 paul_p     danny: ??? no ! the apt-get install will keep the dependancies OK.
14:56 paul_p     the cpan install won't !
14:56 paul_p     (in ubuntu I mean)
14:56 danny      ah! ok
14:56 paul_p     trepador may face a case were ubuntu would complaint for the package not to be here, but Perl being happy as he sees it !
15:00 trepador   thank you every one , but the system says libcompress-zlib-perl is installed
15:01 trepador   if i try to install tar and zlib modules with cpan,
15:01 trepador   the terminal show to me this
15:01 trepador   CPAN.pm needs either both external programs tar and gzip installed or
15:01 trepador   both the modules Archive::Tar and Compress::Zlib. Neither prerequisite
15:01 trepador   is available. Can't continue.
15:02 trepador   i got installed that packages in kubuntu
15:04 paul_p     very strange...
15:06 trepador   yes
15:06 gmcharlt   trepador: could you paste in contents of $HOME/.cpan/CPAN/MyConfig.pm ?
15:06 trepador   ok
15:12 trepador   in this route i dont have any directoy named CPAN
15:13 trepador   the hide directory .cpan exists but no the CPAN
15:14 trepador   directory
15:19 trepador   inside the .cpan directory appears two subdirectories , build and sources and a file called metadata
15:19 trepador   but Myconfig.pm not appear
15:27 hdl_laptop gmcharlt: is there a channel for marc::Record ?
15:27 hdl_laptop Is code4lib or perl4lib OK for that ?
15:34 gmcharlt   gmcharlt: the perl4lib mailing list is the best bet
15:34 gmcharlt   last directed to hdl_laptop, rather
15:34 gmcharlt   I need to stop talking to myself
15:34 gmcharlt   :)
15:41 hdl_laptop thx.
15:42 hdl_laptop I caught Ed Summers on that topic on Code4Lib chan
16:11 hdl_laptop gmcharlt: I have seen that UNIMARC leader contains information about authority type :
16:11 hdl_laptop (leader position 9)
16:11 hdl_laptop gmcharlt: Is there any thing similar inUSMARC  ?
16:14 hdl_laptop gmcharlt: I have seen position 17 in 008.
16:14 hdl_laptop as a sensible candidate.
16:14 hdl_laptop But I may misunderstand or mislead myself.
16:30 gmcharlt   hdl_laptop: depends on what you mean by authority type
16:31 gmcharlt   person/name/topical/geographic is determined by which 1xx is present
16:31 gmcharlt   other aspects by positions in the 008
16:35 gmcharlt   hdl_laptop: MARC21 has no direct equivalent to the UNIMARC Leader/09, although I notice that that appears to be a relatively recent addition
16:39 hdl_laptop thx.
16:39 hdl_laptop gmcharlt: So I cannot rely on UNIMARC feature.
16:39 gmcharlt   no
16:40 hdl_laptop But then I cannot know which codes has been chosen by user for topical or Personnal names.
16:41 hdl_laptop What if user wants more than one thesaurus for Personal Names :
16:41 hdl_laptop used as Authors
16:41 hdl_laptop used as subjects.
16:42 hdl_laptop then I won't be able to make the choice between one or the other.
16:43 hdl_laptop I can't even know which authority type an authority type code is related to.
16:44 hdl_laptop For instance : PN Personal names in english... NP, AUT and SAUT for personnal names in French.
17:02 hdl_laptop gmcharlt: do you have any standard authtypecode ?
17:04 gmcharlt    yes
17:04 gmcharlt   see C4/Headings/MARC21.pm
17:10 hdl_laptop what is 800 => Personal Name ??
20:17 chris      morning all
20:18 mason      bonjour chris
20:27 gmcharlt   hi chris
20:29 chris      heya galen, the key arrive ok?
20:29 gmcharlt   chris: yep - will send you gitosis info shortly
20:29 chris      excellent thank you
23:52 chris      whoa static koha build
23:52 chris      1974 called its wants its architecture back
23:52 chris      all the distros have decent package management systems, lets just use that and not make more rods for our bacsk
23:55 SelfishMan I'm thinking about IPv6 enabling koha.  How much will I regret this?
23:59 chris      how about statically building the tcp/ip stack into koha
23:59 chris      :-)
23:59 SelfishMan chris: I've had to write three IP stacks in my life, I don't plan on writing another
00:00 chris      i can see no reason why koha wont just work with ipv6
00:00 SelfishMan Yeah, that doesn't make sense since proper package management will do the job.  I could see use for a appliance install CD though
00:00 chris      yep
00:00 chris      if we finish off the packages
00:00 SelfishMan The access restrictions by IP appear to only be IPv4
00:01 chris      yep, thats the only bit that will break
00:02 SelfishMan I would love to see a debian or ubuntu based appliance CD for koha.  I think that would help the people that just can't do the management themselves
00:02 chris      yep
00:02 chris      once the packages are finished there are a ton of tools for building said cd's
00:03 SelfishMan true
07:51 chris      evening
07:55 chris      hmmm 760 + 9230 = 9990 commits
07:55 chris      we should pass 10,000 commits in the next day or so