Time Nick Message 12:42 mc hello 12:42 owen Hi mc 12:58 AmitG hi 12:58 AmitG mc 15:55 danny any perl experts have some suggestions, I am trying to do some debugging and I want to print some text from like Search.pm, is this possible or do i have to go through the steps of passing it to a template? 15:56 gmcharlt danny: you can warn, which will dump info to Apache error log 15:56 danny ah that will work 15:56 danny thanks gmcharlt 15:56 gmcharlt or you can use die, which dump the error message to the browser in place of the page 15:59 Beth Can the Holds to Pull (or pending holds) report be customized? If so, where does one do that? 16:00 gmcharlt Beth: customized in what way? 16:00 Beth Well I'd like to customize what shows up in the columns (remove some maybe add others) - trying to get it to fit on an 8 1/2 x 11 piece of paper 16:00 Beth right now it's too wide and doesn't print properly 16:01 Beth BTW Hi Galen glad you liked our Hi logol *L* 16:09 owen I wonder if the guided reports system will ever improve to the point that *all* the hardcoded reports can be made as guided reports 16:09 Beth That would be great owen if that could happen. 16:09 gmcharlt Beth: you could lop off columns in the template - koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/circ/... 16:10 owen It couldn't happen without sponsorship I'm sure. 16:10 gmcharlt Beth: not ideal, because you then would have to maintain that local customization 16:10 gmcharlt but possible 16:10 Beth Galen - yeah definitely not ideal but thanks for an answer. 16:13 Beth Hey Galen one more question - got any idea why when I print the report it starts about 2" in on the paper and doesn't use the full page? 16:13 gmcharlt Beth: presumably some CSS oddity 16:13 owen Beth: I'll bet there's a problem with the stylesheet 16:13 owen Which report is it? 16:13 Beth gmcharlt - thanks will take a look 16:14 gmcharlt make a print stylesheet available for such things may help, besides the changes to the base stylesheet that I think owen is talking about 16:14 Beth owen - Holds to Pull or pendingreserves 16:23 owen Beth, if you have access to your stylesheets, you can edit print.css and add at the end of the file: .yui-t2 #yui-main div.yui-b { margin-left : 0; } 16:24 Beth owen - yes we do thanks for your help 19:19 danny I remember reading a while ago about perl and being able to multi-thread, do any of the koha scripts use threads? 19:21 gmcharlt danny: no 19:22 danny are there any downsides that you know of to using threads, do they help increase speed in certain situations? 19:27 gmcharlt big downside is that threaded programming in Perl has gotchas for the unwary - easy to cause a deadlock 19:28 danny hmm ok 19:28 danny i was working on adding some facets that we need for HCL, then I got to looking at how the facets are ordered in Koha 19:29 danny and I like that they are ordered by number of hits per facet, but it is only number of hits in that page of results, instead of for the whole result set 19:30 danny and i was thinking about how you would get the facets for the whole result set, and depending on the search that seems like it could take a while? 19:30 gmcharlt right - Zebra add faceting support recently, and if we switch to that instead of having Koha compute the facets, that problem should go away 19:31 danny oh that is interesting 19:47 hdl gmcharlt: have ll setup gitosis ? 19:47 gmcharlt hdl: not yet, but soon 19:47 hdl Can I add a key there ? 19:47 hdl OK. 19:48 gmcharlt if you email me your public key, I can put it in place once I set up gitosis 19:49 owen gitosis? 19:51 gmcharlt owen: way to have multiple maintainers of different branches of the git tree 20:54 frederic df 21:26 chris morning 21:26 gmcharlt frederic: disk space usage on #koha: nil ;) 21:51 chris heya jaron 21:51 jaron hi chris :) 21:52 chris hows things? 21:54 jaron pretty good. in koha terms I upgraded to 3.0 without major problems and get to give a presentation on koha in October. so all's good there. 21:54 chris woot thats excellent news 21:54 jaron i didn't realize until just recently that you started a new job 21:54 jaron oh, was that a good time? 21:54 chris oh yeah, started in march 21:55 chris yep, 2nd year its run ... some good finalists and i was happy with all the winners 21:55 chris and i got to actually enjoy it this time, last time i was too nervous hehe 21:55 jaron good to see that kind of open source promotion going on for sure 21:57 jaron ah, even an open source in government category 21:57 chris oh yeah 21:57 chris the entire nz elections are done on free software 21:58 chris including the electoral role .. theres a pretty decent uptake here 21:58 jaron nz++ 21:58 chris silverstripe won the project category 21:59 jaron but oh dear what about the hackers fooling with the election results! 21:59 jaron silverstripe looks really nice 21:59 chris yeah, running the democratic convention website pretty much clinched it for them 22:00 chris and radio nz won the open source in govt 22:00 chris (they make all their shows available as .ogg) 22:01 jaron that's awesome 22:01 chris oh and robert o'callahan wone his category ... which was a suprise to no one :) 22:02 chris where are you presenting? 22:03 jaron I was asked to talk at some users group. I think it's Indiana OnLine Users Group. 22:03 jaron the whole day is on oss 22:03 chris awesome 22:04 jaron i think they're mainly library folks. it will be my first professional presentation 22:04 chris cool 22:04 jaron which means i've probably got to make some slides up before the night before or something ;) 22:04 chris heh 23:06 chris jaron: you could put that documentaion on wiki.koha.org if you liked as well 23:08 jaron ok, will do. 23:09 chris ill give it a try after work today :) 23:09 jaron then you can let me know if it is a stupid way to go about it :) 23:10 chris :) 23:10 chris seems like a neat little idea to me 23:12 jaron well, it's something I wanted to do and gmcharlt gave me an idea how to do it, but the mistakes are all mine. :) 23:12 chris :) 04:16 anasha hello friends 04:16 anasha hi mason 04:29 Amit hi 04:29 Amit koha good morning 04:29 Amit hi mason good morning 04:36 mason heya amit 04:37 mason did you have a look at the squid stuff i emailed you? 04:38 mason it might be handy for the DPL koha, depending on DPL's network speed... 04:38 mason just an idea ;) 04:38 Amit yes 04:38 Amit i have seen 04:38 Amit thanx 04:39 Amit dpl speed is not so good? 04:39 Amit i mean to say 04:39 Amit browersing of koha 04:39 mason ah, system load is high? 04:39 Amit no 04:39 Amit 1 min 04:40 mason hmm, looks like you still have a strange problems there.... 04:40 mason slow system - but load is low. 04:41 Amit load average 0.11 04:42 mason i would write a script to hit the system with many searches, to increase load 04:42 mason then try to identify what is causing the slow-down 04:44 Amit i think some network problem 04:45 mason couls be 04:45 mason could be 04:45 mason write a script to test searching... 04:45 mason run it locally on DPL server with lynx/links 04:46 mason then run same script from openlx, see if there is a difference is seaching speed.. 04:47 mason i thought you where testing this locally, sounds like a network issue then.. 04:48 Amit yes 04:48 Amit ur right 04:49 Amit but speed is better than 04:49 Amit old one 04:49 Amit in my pc searching is fast 04:50 Amit when i m searching dpl catalog 04:54 mason perhaps, DPL need to upgrade their net connection with their ISP, if this is a big issue 04:54 Amit yes 04:54 Amit there is 2Mbps 04:54 Amit connection at present 04:54 Amit in future they me be increase 04:55 Amit because after 2 oct dpl is online 24 hrs 04:57 mason hmm, write a script to do the same search during different times of the day/night 04:58 Amit ok 04:58 mason does the performance improved at 2am , compared to 2pm? etc... 04:58 Amit searching is very slow 04:58 Amit network traffic problem 04:58 Amit may be 05:01 mason if so, you might need to start collecting data/statistics to prove to DPL managment that this is an issue 05:02 anasha any one around who installed koha 3 on debian-40r4a etch 05:02 mason get a script running every hour, doing the same search - and log the search time 05:02 Amit ok 05:03 Amit i will be made a script then i check 05:03 Amit searching 05:03 mason see if the performance changes much during the day/night 05:04 Amit ok 05:04 Amit or some apache bench marking 05:05 mason if search takes many minutes, show your data to managment - and suggest ISP upgrade; or network traffic-shaping with DPL routers perhaps? 05:21 Amit ok 05:57 Amit hi 05:57 Amit paul 07:22 chris amit: if you go to system preferences 07:22 chris what is yuipath set to? 07:22 Amit ok 07:23 Amit local 07:23 Amit yuipath set to local 07:24 Amit this is system preference setting 07:24 chris local? 07:24 Amit yes 07:24 Amit yuipath Insert the path to YUI libraries, choose local if you use koha offline local 07:25 chris do you mean /intranet-tmpl/prog/en/lib/yui ? 07:25 Amit yes 07:26 chris in that case, yep chances are its the network at dpl 07:26 Amit ok 07:26 Amit i will see 07:26 Amit i have not change because this is the default setting 07:27 Amit because in dpl they are using local access also 07:27 Amit for koha 07:27 Amit by internal ip