Time Nick Message 12:19 martinmorris hi again - is there anybody who can help with a minor display problem on my new koha 3 installatin? 12:19 martinmorris installation even 12:26 hdl hi 12:27 hdl martinmorris: 12:27 martinmorris hi hdl :) 12:27 hdl do you have correct link and acces to yui ? 12:27 martinmorris it's only a small thing but the drop down menus arent' quite working properly and all the options display at once 12:27 martinmorris um, no idea, what's yui? 12:28 hdl yahoo User Interface. 12:28 martinmorris ah 12:28 martinmorris not sure, is that in the intranet-tmp directory? 12:29 martinmorris i have a "/usr/share/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/lib/yui" directory 12:32 hdl could be. 12:33 hdl depending on your systempreferences yuipath 12:33 hdl if it is local 12:33 martinmorris ah, i set that up within koha do I 12:33 martinmorris let me have a look 12:33 hdl or http://... 12:38 martinmorris where in system preferences would I set that hdl? 12:38 hdl search yuipath 12:40 martinmorris ah so it's a system preference on the server, not within koha itself? 12:40 martinmorris ok... 12:43 martinmorris hmm, that's not making enough sense for me - i'm seeing a couple of different answeres 12:43 martinmorris anyway thanks for your help hdl 12:45 hdl martinmorris: no 12:45 hdl it is in koha 12:45 hdl on administration page 12:45 martinmorris right... 12:45 hdl you can find yuipath searching systempreferences. 12:46 martinmorris ah, with you :) 12:46 martinmorris searching now 12:46 martinmorris right, i don't have a yuipath system preference 12:47 martinmorris so i need to create one in which part of system preferences? 12:48 hdl any 12:48 hdl it wil go to the right part. 12:50 martinmorris so the preference is yuipath 12:50 martinmorris and the path is /intranet.... 12:52 martinmorris or rather the value 12:53 martinmorris anyway, doesn't seem to have made a difference, trying with a / at the end 12:56 martinmorris got it working, thanks hdl! 12:57 hdl np 13:01 hdl gmcharlt: atz_ Is PDF::API2 0.3r77 still required to make barcode generator work ? 13:09 gmcharlt hdl: Makefile.PL claims 2.000 is required, but at moment I don't see any sign that C4::Barcodes::PrinterConfig is actually being used ATM 13:10 hdl gmcharlt: this peculiar version of PDF::API2 is quite hard to find. 13:12 gmcharlt hdl: after testing, no reason why can't require a version that's easier to find from CPAN or common packages 13:13 hdl should be removed from docs then. 13:14 hdl filing bug 13:31 cnighs hello #koha 13:54 liz-nekls mornin peps 13:59 atz_ greets liz-nekls 14:06 cnighs g'morning liz-nekls 14:20 liz-nekls yeppers 14:20 liz-nekls :D 14:21 liz-nekls some people in our system say "Nickels" i think that's just wrong 14:21 liz-nekls it's an E, people 14:21 liz-nekls :) 14:25 lizrea tired of my nick having something to do with where I work :P 14:28 gmcharlt lol 15:07 rhcl Hey Liz, how many total libraries in NEKLS actually moved from Sirsi to Koha? 15:48 hdl any mac user around ? 15:48 hdl Have you ever installed and used MarcEdit on Mac ? 15:49 gmcharlt hdl: we've used Mono on Debian with run MarcEdit - haven't tried it on a Mac yet, though 15:50 hdl So works on Debian. 15:51 hdl anything to install after Mono in order to run MarcEdit ? 15:57 martinmorris i've got a quick question about indexing - i chose dom rather than grs1 when installing and now i get bizarre entries in my zebra log when doing a search... 15:57 martinmorris such as:16:49:13-13/08 zebrasrv(1) [log] dict_lookup_grep: (\x01\x09)((e|\xC3\xA9|\xC3\xA8|\xC3\xAA|\xE1\xBA\xBD|\xC4\x95|\xC4\x99|\xC4\x97|\xC4\x9B|\xC8\x85|\xC8\x87)sp(e|\xC3\xA9|\xC3\xA8|\xC3\xAA|\xE1\xBA\xBD|\xC4\x95|\xC4\x99|\xC4\x97|\xC4\x9B|\xC8\x85|\xC8\x87)r(a|\xC3\xA1|\xC3\xA0|\xC3\xA3|\xC3\xA5|\xC3\xA2|\xC4\x83|\xC4\x85|\xC8\xA7|\xC7\x8E|\xC8\x81|\xC8\x83)nt(o|\xC3\xB3|\xC3\xB2|\xC3\xB5|\xC3\xB4|\xC5\x8F|\xC7\xAB|\xC8\xAF|\xC5 15:58 martinmorris it's a unicode database if that is relevant 15:59 kados martinmorris: that's normal 15:59 martinmorris oh really? 15:59 martinmorris ah 15:59 martinmorris i don't remember getting that before, is it because i changed from dom to grs? 15:59 martinmorris from grs to dom rather 15:59 kados you must have also strted using the new .chr files 15:59 pianohacker owen: around ? 16:00 owen Yes 16:00 kados no, it would be the new .chr files with all the mappings for diacritical to non-diacritical chars 16:00 martinmorris right OK 16:00 martinmorris in that case there's another reason why my searches aren't workign then :) 16:00 kados heh 16:00 kados if you reinstalled you'll need to reindex zebra 16:00 kados most likely 16:00 pianohacker owen: Is there any reason for class="content_hidden" to have visibility: hidden and display: none ? 16:00 martinmorris i have reindexed zebra 16:00 kados and restart the zebra daemon itself 16:00 martinmorris aaaah! 16:00 kados using the new configuration file koha-conf.xml 16:01 kados so if your daemon is running, kill it, and make sure it's properly linked to your new install before starting it back up again 16:01 owen pianohacker: Where is it used? 16:01 martinmorris no, hang on actually i did restart it 16:01 martinmorris i get a blank table of results 16:01 pianohacker owen: In the templates of {auth_,marc_}subfields_structure 16:02 martinmorris done that kados, no difference 16:11 owen pianohacker: Sorry, got called away from my desk 16:12 owen I don't recall offhand why that class would be defined that way. Feel free to muck with it if you think anything is unnecessary 16:16 pianohacker owen: Thanks 16:17 lizrea-lappy ok, this may be a dumb question... I'm trying to customize the search results and I'm not familiar at all with xslt 16:17 lizrea-lappy how do I remove just one element of the result, example being "literary form" 16:18 lizrea-lappy I just don't want it to display that 16:18 lizrea-lappy i'm looking at MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl 16:18 lizrea-lappy is that even the right file? 16:18 gmcharlt yes 16:19 gmcharlt you'd edit the file, looking for whatever bit is extracting the literary form from the 008 16:19 gmcharlt use <!-- and --> (XML comments) to comment out the bit you don't want 16:19 gmcharlt then run xmllint MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl 16:19 lizrea-lappy ah, well I probably already have it done then 16:19 gmcharlt if it spits back the XSLT, it means that you haven't introduced an XML format error 16:20 lizrea-lappy just don't have access to update it 16:20 lizrea-lappy (we're hosted by liblime) 16:21 gmcharlt right - I guess raise a support query about getting the customization done 16:22 Sharon Liz we can do that through Bev, I guess. I'll send the email. 16:35 ryan lizrea-lappy: editix is a nice xslt editor that makes it easy to see the results of the transform. 16:36 lizrea-lappy i may have to look into that 16:44 pianohacker owen again :P Can you think of an easy way to show that a table cell is editable (click to edit?) 16:46 owen Inline editing? Fun. What about a right-aligned background-image of a little pencil? 16:50 owen pianohacker: maybe something like famfamfam's page_white_edit icon 16:55 acmoore should the overdues report in the web interface show pretty much the same items as the overdue_notices.pl script deals with? 16:56 pianohacker owen: Sounds good 17:53 owen Hi clockfort 17:53 clockfort hello 17:56 clockfort My libray is thinking of switching to Koha; however, our current software implements patron privacy automatically by limiting the "check out history" to two persons. is this feature duplicated in any setting in Koha? I've seen that there is a tools option to protect patron privacy that allows one to anonymize records older than a certain date. Is there any way to either duplicate our current system of patron privacy protection, or is there a way to anonymize rec 17:57 owen clockfort: Koha has a checkout history feature that can be enabled or disabled via a system pref 17:58 owen I'm not sure what you mean by limiting history to two persons? 17:59 owen Disabling reading history just hides the links to that feature. If you want to actually anonymize the checkout histories there is a tool to do so, but on a global level (for anything earlier than a specified date) 18:02 clockfort Yeah, I pretty much said that :-P 18:02 Sharon_ I think even with the check out history disabled, you can see the last patron to circ an item. I'd need to test that to be sure. 18:02 clockfort hmm, if that's so, that'd be good 18:03 clockfort Because all I really want the history for is to provide accountibility for when things come back broken, etc 18:03 clockfort other than that patron privacy is a must 18:07 Sharon_ Owen, I can temporarily turn off intranetreadinghistory and NOT lose any data, yes? Unless I anonymize, the data stays there? 18:09 owen Sharon_: Yes 18:10 Sharon_ ty 18:12 owen The system preference definition for opacreadinghistory is the more accurate one: enables /display/ of Patron Circulation History 18:13 clockfort Hmm, that still doesn't sound so great, though. If all the reading history disable feature does is disable the link to the list, its still being stored... privacy is not truly protected. 18:14 owen clockfort: Right, so you have to also use the anonymize tool 18:16 clockfort Yep. I think maybe I'll just set up a cron job to use the anonymization tool past X months, and have it run everyday. 18:16 clockfort Thanks for the clarification though, everyone 18:17 owen atz: Is Bug 2512 only talking about an HTML Tidy report? Or is there a browser error? 18:23 atz just tidy, hence minor 18:24 acmoore atz: are you running HTML::Tidy on all of the HTML that comes out of Koha? 18:24 atz i have the FF plugin on my win32 VM 18:25 acmoore ah. cool! 18:25 atz so usually when I'm investigating something else, i try to record any other anomalies 18:28 owen atz, what plugin is that? 18:28 atz Tidy 18:29 owen For Firefox? Is it on addons.mozilla.org? 18:29 atz yeah, they label it "HTML validator" 18:29 atz but it uses w3c tidy and SGML validators 18:29 atz unfortunately only win32 18:29 atz it was the best add-on before Firebug :) 18:33 owen Neat, thanks atz. Good addition to my tool set. 18:35 atz cool... since most of the bugs I'd file off of it would go to you anyway, now you can beat me to the punch :) 18:36 owen Not Firefox, but Mac at least: http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200605/html_validation_with_safari_tidy/ 18:46 atz interesting 19:07 Sharon_ Is there a global modification or global edit feature in koha for changing item types or collection codes? 19:08 owen Sharon_: Not at the moment, but I think there's an RFC for that for 3.2? 19:09 Sharon_ so to update an item from "new book" to "book" is going to involve editing each individual record? Hmmm.. yes, that would be a very good enhancement from an efficiency point of view ;-) 19:10 owen Yeah, my library has never tried to do such things for that reason. But then we don't have different circ rules for new books 19:11 Sharon_ the issue is renewals - one of our libraries wants 2 renewals and new items and the rest are ok with 0 renewals and our data was just loaded today, so it's too late to change the map for them 19:13 Sharon_ so we hoped for a quick and easy way to update her items post-migration... 20:39 Sharon_ is there an ETA on 3.2? 20:41 acmoore Sharon_: no. There's only this: http://markmail.org/message/k7ptjm3f2f3dc2hr 20:43 chris morning 20:44 gmcharlt morning chris 20:57 cnighs hello chris 03:35 cnighs it's awful quiet around here 03:38 chris yep 03:49 cnighs chris: question for you 03:50 cnighs is the item-level_type syspref an accurate indicator of which itemtype field is being used by a library? 03:53 chris its supposed to be 03:53 chris whether it is or not is another story :) 03:55 cnighs yet another coder's nightmare ;-) 03:57 chris basically if you set it before you do your import 03:57 chris and dont change it 03:57 chris then ur good 03:57 chris but bad stuff (tm) happens if you change it 03:58 chris you can end up with a mix 03:58 chris it perhaps shouldnt be changeable 03:58 chris without a huge warning 03:59 cnighs I built a sub that takes a list of item numbers and hands back out their item type descriptions 03:59 cnighs it bases its decision on which itemtype to look at based on the item-level_type syspref 03:59 chris yep, thats what it should do 04:00 chris what we shouldnt let peopel do is change it, without either shifting the itemtype 04:00 chris or just not let them change it 05:40 nicomo 'morning all 06:09 cnighs g'morning and g'night :-) 06:29 nicomo bye cnighs :-) 06:36 hdl hi 06:37 hdl chris : you're right. 06:38 chris about the itemtypes? 06:38 hdl two types of system preferences are mixed : 06:39 hdl those who have to be set at the beginning and should never change unles it breaks everything. 06:39 chris right 06:39 hdl those who can be updated and only have display customisation effect. 06:40 chris yep 06:40 hdl nicomo realized that while doing a handbook.