Time  Nick   Message
10:02 mc     ohh ... va falloir penser a nourrir la progeniture!
10:02 mc     np Fallor
09:53 Fallor merci
09:53 paul   bon appétit
09:52 Fallor thanks a million :)
09:52 Fallor Ok, at step 3, time for a lunch-break
09:49 mc     :)
09:49 Fallor works so far...
09:49 Fallor -n
09:49 Fallor "Welcome to Kohan installer"
09:48 Fallor ok, i did a force install, see how that goes...
09:45 mc     paul, messages finally appears
09:45 mc     i think that this code can be very usefull ... but there is too many questions
09:44 mc     but not sure
09:44 mc     i vote 2nd
09:44 mc     - is this right for some langages ?
09:44 mc     - is this an error ?
09:44 mc     so i wonder:
09:44 mc     i also noticed that some strange a chars are in e equivs
09:43 masonj cool, thanx for the equiv.chr file marc, i will use it
09:43 mc     masonj, sure
09:43 mc     Fallor, if you thint that all reported errors aren't important, go to next step : make install
09:42 mc     Fallor, view the code and an consider ignoring some tests in fact
09:42 masonj yeah, i will do some experiments with that too
09:41 mc     ?
09:41 mc     anwser is: sure ... but how much !
09:41 masonj slower/bigger
09:41 mc     masonj, that was one of the questions i asked to myself
09:41 mc     to solve the solution better than we all can because we aren't unicode experts
09:41 masonj question, does it make your zebra indexes much/slower than with smaller equiv.chr rules?
09:40 paul   s/note/notice/
09:40 Fallor mc: err... try to edit what?
09:40 mc     so i tried to use an existing database
09:40 masonj ah, i understand now (looking at man page)
09:40 mc     that i don't know
09:39 mc     there is so many cases ....
09:39 mc     it don't match the sweden °e
09:38 masonj yes
09:38 masonj snap
09:38 mc     see your line: êèéëÊÈÉË
09:38 masonj Text::Unidecode ??
09:38 mc     so i tried to do the counterpart to be exaustive for charmapping
09:37 mc     éèëê... -> e
09:37 mc     i used it for a while in the normal way
09:37 masonj ah, i saw you mention that before
09:36 mc     masonj, i used the table supplied by the Text::Unidecode module
09:36 mc     tests about mysql can be ignored it you successfully installed the mysql dbd
09:35 masonj mc: i can understand *some* of them
09:35 mc     Fallor, try to edit the t/* to find out the problem
09:35 paul   mc: (i was in cc myself, & have recieved them)
09:35 masonj wow, what are all those chars in your equiv file?
09:33 mc     fetchmail said "no message"
09:32 mc     paul, i'm still waiting for the matthias CC
09:31 paul   mc: mail in your mailbox (about next week vacation)
09:31 mc     paul thought it's a bad idea because it doesn't respect our country charset
09:30 mc     i expected it to be a part of word-phrase-utf.chr
09:30 mc     http://mc.koha-fr.org/equiv.chr
09:30 mc     in fact:
09:30 masonj mc: my  'map êèéëÊÈÉË  e' line in 'sort-string-utf.chr'  seems to be doing equiv well!
09:29 mc     they are frozen now ... running very slowly in the house
09:28 mc     :)
09:28 masonj renice -19 children
09:28 mc     paul, throught well
09:26 masonj my system thinks 'word-phrase-utf.chr' is a bit corrupt....
09:26 chris  heh
09:26 mc     scheduler has top priority for them :)
09:26 mc     re ... sorry for lag: i am with my childrens
09:25 masonj sure, i switched my 'index w' charmap line to 'sort-string-utf.chr'
09:25 paul   (same content I mean)
09:25 paul   where sort-string-utf.chr is the same file as word-phrase-utf.chr
09:24 paul   charmap sort-string-utf.chr
09:24 paul   completeness 1
09:24 paul   sort s
09:24 paul   # Sort register
09:24 paul   we also have :
09:24 paul   (same charmap line for index p)
09:24 paul   charmap word-phrase-utf.chr
09:24 paul   firstinfield 1
09:24 paul   alwaysmatches 1
09:24 paul   position 1
09:24 paul   completeness 0
09:24 paul   index w
09:24 paul   through default.idx, charmap line
09:23 masonj hey mc, btw  - how did your e -> êèéëÊÈÉË equiv stuff go for zebra ?
09:22 Fallor         all skipped: Couldn't establish connection with the MySQL server: Can't                                              connect to data source '' because I can't work out what driver to use (it doesn'                                             t seem to contain a 'dbi:driver:' prefix and the DBI_DRIVER env var is not set)                                              at t/g4_mysql.t line 44
09:22 Fallor t/g4_mysql......................skipped
09:22 Fallor what's this then:
09:20 mc     sorry
09:20 mc     damned .. .you allready told it :)
09:20 Fallor this is Slackware 12.1
09:20 Fallor but no luck with CGI::Session...
09:20 mc     Fallor, on what system ?
09:20 Fallor YAML, ok apart from the compatibility warning
09:19 mc     make test
09:19 mc     Fallor, yaml::syck isn't enought ?
09:19 Fallor I tried installing YAML and then CGI::Session::Serialize::yaml
09:19 mc     re
09:19 masonj fallor, it can be a little tricky :(
09:18 Fallor bummer, it won't install :(
09:16 Fallor is that gonna be a problem?
09:16 masonj bonjour peoples
09:16 Fallor YAML::Syck and YAML.pm when serializing blessed references.
09:16 Fallor This release breaks compatibility with versions earlier than version 0.60 of
09:15 Fallor hmm... do I need to have yaml installed or is the module from cpan enough in itself?
09:10 Fallor mc: that says nothing at all
09:09 Fallor not anymore it seems
09:09 Fallor i remeber that there used to be a package for that
09:08 mc     Fallor, perl -MYAML::Syck -e1
09:08 chris  ah ok
09:08 paul   all others are employees
09:08 paul   note : pp, hdl, nicolas & jacques = we are the 4 BibLibre owners
09:07 mc     wow
09:07 Fallor jaiks, yaml doesn't seem to be part of slackware
09:07 mc     nicomo is now full time ...
09:07 paul   starting oct, 1st : Laurence Lefaucheur, Matthias
09:07 paul   starting aug, 1st : jacques piton, John soros
09:06 paul   already working full time : pp, hdl, mc, olivier (acq module), nicolas morin
09:06 paul   mmm...
09:06 chris  6?
09:06 chris  how many at Biblibre now?
09:05 mc     i really think he is a very good recruit
09:05 mc     paul, wonderfull
09:05 chris  cool mc
09:05 mc     after asked in the french mongeurs list
09:04 paul   mc: just writing a mail to matthias to hire him (you'll be cc:)
09:04 mc     i wrote a mail to pause maintainers
09:04 mc     yep
09:04 chris  its an annoying problem, that hopefully the maintainer will fix soon
09:04 Fallor it requires yaml, right?
09:04 mc     paul is right
09:04 chris  yeah
09:04 mc     hello
09:03 paul   + some cpan mirrors are not uptodate
09:03 paul   + there is a new spelling
09:03 paul   if I don't mind : this package used to be a part of CGI::Session, and has been splitted by the package maintainer. the splitting is not properly done, thus the dependancy is broken
09:03 Fallor thus Serializewith capita S
09:02 Fallor it's CGI::Session::Serialize:yaml
09:02 Fallor it is actually
09:02 Fallor nope, doesn't seem to be in cpan
09:02 chris  yeah good idea paul
09:02 chris  and thats great news about Finland
09:02 paul   we should do an entry on wiki.koha.org until the dependancy is fixed by the package maintainer...
09:01 chris  should be able to
09:01 Fallor can I get it from cpan?
09:00 Fallor as far as I know
09:00 Fallor this is the first Koha installation for a public library in finland :)
09:00 chris  that should fix it
09:00 chris  and install that
09:00 chris  download the tarball of CGI::Session::serialize::yaml
09:00 chris  yep
08:59 Fallor someone else has the same problem
08:59 Fallor I also posted that to the mailing list
08:59 Fallor there, yep it's CGI::Session
08:59 Fallor [Mon Jul 14 11:54:50 2008] [error] [client 192.168.0.50] [Mon Jul 14 11:54:50 2008] install.pl: Can't locate object method "generate_id" via package "CGI::Session::ID::" (perhaps you forgot to load "CGI::Session::ID::"?) at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/CGI/Session.pm line 74.
08:59 Fallor [Mon Jul 14 11:54:50 2008] [error] [client 192.168.0.50] [Mon Jul 14 11:54:50 2008] install.pl: Use of uninitialized value in string eq at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 38.
08:59 Fallor [Mon Jul 14 11:54:50 2008] [error] [client 192.168.0.50] [Mon Jul 14 11:54:50 2008] install.pl: Use of uninitialized value in string eq at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 38.
08:58 Fallor [Mon Jul 14 11:54:50 2008] [error] [client 192.168.0.50] [Mon Jul 14 11:54:50 2008] install.pl: Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/CGI/Session.pm line 129.
08:56 chris  cool
08:56 Fallor then i'll be able to paste it
08:56 Fallor hold on, i'll switch the machine
08:56 chris  what does it say?
08:56 Fallor yep
08:56 chris  ahh, is there anything in the error log?
08:56 Fallor it refuses to start
08:56 Fallor no, that's the one that complains about fatal error
08:55 paul   Fallor : run staff interface, you have to do an upgrade
08:55 chris  hmm, have you run the web installer?
08:55 chris  woo cool
08:55 Fallor the OPAC says that the system is under maintenance
08:54 Fallor it says production mode - trapped fatal error
08:54 Fallor er... I have a little problem with Koha3
08:54 paul   was a poorly defended castle in 1789, almost without any prisonneers, but was symbolic.
08:54 chris  yep
08:53 paul   "La Bastille" being the jail were the king was able to put anyone without justification.
08:53 chris  i remember visiting the area where the bastille was with paul
08:52 paul   yep
08:52 chris  bastille day eh?
08:48 paul   national day here in France, but I work
08:48 paul_  hi chris & fallor
08:48 chris  hi fallor
08:34 Fallor hi koha! :)
22:00 chris  morning