Time Nick Message 12:06 giokob hello people 12:06 giokob i have installed koha 3 rc1 on debian etch 12:06 giokob it works well 12:07 giokob but their is no language chooser on opac 12:07 giokob i checked in systempreferances and opaclanguagesdisplay is on 12:07 giokob what shoild i do 12:08 giokob please give me some suggetions 12:10 giokob does anybody have same problem or solved it? 12:53 nengard hi all, i think i asked this awhile ago but i don't have it documented ... what are free lists? They aren't used on the OPAC side of things - only the staff side. are they still used or are they an old feature? 12:56 owen They're supposed to be wiki-like in that anyone could add or delete items 13:00 nengard owen - do they work? on the opac there are only public and private lists as far as i can see 13:02 nengard owen - i answered my own question - no they don't work - i added one on the staff site and it's not listed on the opac side 13:03 nengard oh!!! it works if i log out 13:03 nengard weird 13:03 nengard okay - bug report coming 13:03 owen The free lists were taken out from the opac at one point, I think partly because we weren't sure if it was really a usable feature 13:03 owen It's a hard one to explain to users, since it's not a typical way of doing things 13:04 nengard owen - bah - just got it to appear while i'm logged in ... hmmm 13:05 nengard okay - here's how it works. It shows up under Public Lists on the OPAC and it does allow anyone to edit the list by adding items, changing the title, and changing the sorting of the list 13:11 owen Right, the lists in the OPAC are only set up to distinguish between public and private 13:14 nengard okey dokey 13:14 nengard documentation updated 13:32 atz the display "timing" you saw is probably due to the session-dependence of the lists drop-down 13:33 atz if you go to "my lists" you should get the full one every time 13:33 atz 2j68752a 13:33 atz 2j68752a 13:34 atz sorry about that... 13:43 acmoore I notice that a patch using Date::Manip was recently reverted. What have we determined was the problem with it? I want to make sure I stay away from it, too, if it's evil. 13:44 atz acmoore: it was often used in simple cases where Dates.pm would suffice 13:44 atz i don't know about that once case though 13:44 slef 2j68752a 13:45 atz slef: yeah, now you know the secret password to log onto my windows VM 13:45 atz (that annoyingly started up w/ the "Narrator" on today) 14:41 masonj acmoore: re date::manip, someone did some speed profiling on koha 2.2 , and found date::manip was a startup hog 14:42 acmoore hmm. OK. thanks 14:42 masonj so it got moved out of the circ stuff, real quick 14:42 masonj and got gradually moved from the other areas 14:45 masonj ah, heres some old irc logs about it.. -> http://tinyurl.com/5k7sca 14:47 acmoore OK, thanks. 18:04 eric kados, are you around? 18:34 pablo Hello all! 18:36 eric hi pablo! 18:37 pablo Hi! My name is Pablo Bianchi, perhaps you remember me from movies like "Venezuela’s National Library evaluated, decided to deploy the Koha Integrated Library System" on koha list 18:37 owen :) 18:38 pablo I just one to show a software, some popular on latinamerica, for cataloging. Is Very friendly but it works with isis files 18:39 pablo luckly, is now a version in english, also a demo (unstable) 99% in English 18:40 pablo I wish to some koha developers to take a look to it, is really amazing, the interfase and all things it could do. The project name is "Catalis" 18:41 pablo There are some movements to add Catalis to other project named "OpenMarcoPolo", and try to be a Koha competitor 18:42 pablo Well, let's go to the URLs :P Here is a better presentation and screenshot: http://code.google.com/p/catalis/ 18:42 owen atz, is there a preference for turning on and off the user tags feature in the opac? 18:42 atz yes 18:43 atz all should be under EnhancedContent 18:43 owen I notice the link isn't wrapped in a sys pref check in the template 18:43 atz there are several... you can toggle show on list, show on detail 18:44 atz owen: yeah, that's a minor thing (the destination page will say 'this feature not enabled') 18:44 atz you can hide it if you want 18:44 owen Yeah, we definitely don't want to link to a feature that's not enabled 18:45 eric owen: I think it is TagsEnabled 18:45 atz # Tags 18:45 atz $tabsysprefs{TagsEnabled} = 'EnhancedContent'; 18:45 atz $tabsysprefs{TagsExternalDictionary} = 'EnhancedContent'; 18:45 atz $tabsysprefs{TagsInputOnDetail} = 'EnhancedContent'; 18:45 atz $tabsysprefs{TagsInputOnList} = 'EnhancedContent'; 18:45 atz $tabsysprefs{TagsShowOnDetail} = 'EnhancedContent'; 18:45 atz $tabsysprefs{TagsShowOnList} = 'EnhancedContent'; 18:45 atz $tabsysprefs{TagsModeration} = 'EnhancedContent'; 18:45 atz $tabsysprefs{GoogleJackets} = 'EnhancedContent'; 18:45 atz $tabsysprefs{AuthorisedValueImages} = "EnhancedContent"; 18:45 atz ^^ from admin/systempreferences.pl 18:46 pablo One more thing. If someone want to take a look, with username=xx, pass=test, on the Right box demo is a version in english to play 18:46 pablo http://inmabb.criba.edu.ar/catalis/catalis.php?p=demo# 18:47 pablo Should I go with this to somewhere else? Perhaps I should send a mail to koha-dev? 18:47 owen pablo: have you heard about Liblime's project called "biblios" ? Also built using ext. http://www.flickr.com/photos/liblime/tags/biblios/ 18:48 owen atz, I don't have any of those preferences. I wonder if I downgrade my Koha version number and reupdate the database if that would fix 18:48 pablo No I'm not, I will see that link 18:48 atz owen: it might... not sure though 18:52 owen It did, cool. Neglectful of me to have never noticed I wasn't seeing that stuff. 18:56 pablo owen: Do you have more information about Biblios? Screenshots? a list of features? 18:57 pablo owen: searching with word "biblios" and koha doesn't help much on google, it get confused with the bibliographic record meaning 18:58 owen I know Liblime is still working on the official site. Googling turns up this: http://www.biblios.net 18:58 owen Looks like the demo is offline though 18:59 owen Hm, doesn't look like there's much of anything at all at that site 19:00 pablo The link on code.google is very inmature now, but the demo is working. Sadly, is in Spanish the firt part 19:00 pablo 1) go to http://inmabb.criba.edu.ar/catalis/catalis.php?p=demo# 19:00 owen pablo, please post this information to koha-dev. It will reach many more eyes that way 19:02 pablo ou! ok ok.. but the demo is runing! user/pass = xx/test, on the left demo button. 19:02 pablo I'll send an email to koha-dev list either 19:05 owen atz: do you know what magic is required to make a system pref work on the OPAC's login page? 19:06 atz "work"? 19:06 atz probably you are thinking of sysprefs that are loaded for every template by Auth 19:07 atz Tags are setup such that the dependent sysprefs are not loaded if TagsEnabled-0 19:07 atz * =0 * 19:07 atz = 0 19:08 atz (my chat client makes =0 into a smiley) 19:10 owen Here's what I mean: I wrapped the user tags link in <! IF >TagsEnabled. With the syspref turned on, the user tags link does /not/ appear on the OPAC's login page 19:13 atz possible typo/syntax? 19:13 atz C4/Auth.pm:260: TagsEnabled => C4::Context->preference("TagsEnabled"), 19:14 atz ^^ gets set for every template 19:15 owen No, the template responds correctly to turning the pref on and off. This is something I've encountered before with the login screen. Preferences just don't necessarily "take" on that page 19:17 owen line 763 of Auth.pm begins another set of preference-settings for auth screens 19:26 owen atz: is there just moderation on the staff side, or can you add too? 19:26 atz owen: not designed to add via staff side, and honestly I don't consider that a problem 19:27 owen :( 19:27 atz OMG but I'm a librarian, i can't login to the OPAC! 19:27 owen Exactly :) 19:42 nengard hey there all - is there anyone that can fill in the question marks on this page for me? 19:42 nengard http://sites.google.com/a/liblime.com/koha-manual/Home/Table-of-Contents/administration/Manual--Catalog/Catalog--Authorized-Values 19:52 twiggle hiya peps, anybody around? 19:54 twiggle well I'll throw this out there... is there a way to restrict a user who has privileges to modify/delete/add patrons from deleting a superlibrarian... or is it supposed to work that way now 19:56 owen Liz-NEKLS: That feature is in 3.0 19:57 Liz-NEKLS cool... we're hosted with you all, I think we're using that version 19:58 owen Well... what I see is a permissions setting for "staffaccess Modify login / permissions for staff users" 19:58 owen I'm not positive that prevents deletion of superlibrarian (although it seems like it should) 19:59 owen I don't want to say without testing it :) 19:59 Liz-NEKLS ok, so if you are setting up a circulation account you would want to give that permission... one moment we are testing (lol) 19:59 Liz-NEKLS ;) 20:02 chris morning 20:02 Liz-NEKLS that's it, thanks :D 20:03 owen Cool. Liz-NEKLS, where are you located, if I may ask? I grew up in Lawrence. 20:06 Liz-NEKLS we are in lawrence :) 20:06 Liz-NEKLS ks 20:06 Liz-NEKLS rock chalk and all that 20:09 Liz-NEKLS i guess you're the one who will be helping us with our look and feel customization here at NEKLS 20:09 owen My very first library! I remember it fondly 20:09 nengard Hi Liz-NEKLS 20:09 owen Yes 20:10 Liz-NEKLS way cool 20:10 nengard I'm the one doing your training at the end of the month 20:10 Liz-NEKLS hiyas :D 20:11 nengard Liz-NEKLS I can't get pms to work - feel free to IM me on Yahoo!/AIM/GTalk: nengard 20:12 Liz-NEKLS k ty 20:15 Liz-NEKLS Owen- the library probably hasn't changed much lol 20:15 owen Not still using the old cards in the back pocket I hope 20:18 Liz-NEKLS haha, no, fortunately that *has* changed 20:19 Liz-NEKLS but they use III I think 20:19 Liz-NEKLS to which I say "oi" 20:20 chris heh 20:27 Liz-NEKLS anyway, thanks for the tip on the permissions... it works exactly how I would expect :D 21:11 eric Hey! any Zebra's pro around? :) 21:12 eric (get ready for a challenge if you answer: yes, me) :)