Time Nick Message 11:52 nengard i've had too many speaking engagements recently, i'm happy to get to spend the day at home today 11:52 nengard yeah - I'm sure 11:51 paul things are really too busy in fact... 11:51 paul (not morning for us, it's alreday finished in France ;-) ) 11:51 nengard how are things across the ocean? :) 11:51 nengard morning paul 11:50 paul hi nengard 11:46 nengard morning hdl 11:46 hdl hi nengard 08:37 paul_ I would not recommend it at all 08:37 paul_ in 2.2.9 you can have one, but a very basic one. 08:37 paul_ koha 3.0 has one, and the best you can have, as it's "shipped" with zebra 08:37 paul_ so my answer : 08:36 paul_ hi Solomon. Zsh asked the same question 20m ago ! 08:36 Solomon does koha come with an inbuilt z3950 server? 08:27 zsh 3.0 08:26 zsh I'll check out koha .0 08:26 zsh ok. Merci. :) 08:25 paul I would not recommend it at all 08:25 paul in 2.2.9 you can have one, but a very basic one. 08:25 zsh what about 2.2.9? 08:24 paul koha 3.0 has one, and the best you can have, as it's "shipped" with zebra 08:24 zsh hi paul 08:24 paul hi zsh 08:23 zsh there is mention of the client in the docs, none(as far as i can see) about the server 08:20 zsh Hi. Does koha have a z39.50 server? 22:31 chris not me 22:31 thd does anyone know the current URL for the English Koha 2.2 demo? 22:04 chris lol 22:04 atz chris: give me $12 Billion USD per month to spend, and I'll show you how to wreck an economy... 21:58 cait working time, i see 21:57 chris 9.57am wednesday 21:56 cait what time is it for you chris? 21:55 cait its late again today - got a package from amazon today... first book finished now. seems im a real librarian - sometimes. 21:55 chris ahh so morgen for me, nacht for you :) 21:55 cait six minutes to midnight 21:54 chris or should it be nacht for you? 21:54 cait guten abend chris 21:53 chris guten abend cait 21:53 chris yup 21:51 atz yeah, you know times is rough when the loon trumps the greenback 21:42 gmcharlt hehe - Canadian dollar too (and that actually worked out to my advantage recently) 21:41 chris thats what g w will do to your economy :-) 21:41 chris bought even 21:41 chris we bout 49cents 21:41 chris only a few years ago 21:40 chris 79.20 cents apparently 21:39 chris the nz dollar is still pretty high vs the us 21:39 chris prolly around 2999 21:39 atz barrels of oil, more likely.... 21:39 chris whoops 21:38 chris prolly with te 21:38 chris what euro? :) 21:38 atz :) 21:38 atz how much in real money? 21:38 atz chris: is that $3,800 NZD ? 21:37 atz and it's pretty nice to just be able to throw RAM at a problem if you choose to 21:36 chris http://stuff.co.nz/blogs/coolkit/2008/05/02/new-high-of-star-wars-geekdom/ 21:36 chris heya joe 21:36 atz gmcharlt: memcached is surprisingly easy to use 21:31 chris very true 21:31 gmcharlt heck, not just the database - if we could cache XSLT transformer objects, that would probably be a great win all by itself 21:25 chris instead of pounding oracle a few thousand times every second to get those :) 21:25 chris things like first listed date, first traded, trades yesterday etc 21:24 chris but there are lots of parts of the page that can be cached 21:24 chris we cant present old data 21:24 chris yep, its the same with the stock exchange 21:23 gmcharlt would have to be careful (very careful) about caching item info 21:23 chris yep 21:23 gmcharlt looks interesting for caching things like expensive-to-parse bib records and OPAC displays 21:14 chris run memcached on the opac server(s) so it only needs to talk back to the database server when the object is not cached, or it has expired etc 21:13 chris well we could use it even now actually 21:11 chris memcache will be handy when we get koha playing nice with mod_perl ;) 21:09 gmcharlt cool 21:07 chris s/being/been/ 21:07 chris learning good tricks 21:07 chris busy but good, being doing a bunch of work with load balancing, and memcache 21:07 gmcharlt how are things with you? 21:07 chris sweet 21:06 gmcharlt loading some data for a customer right now 21:06 gmcharlt pretty good 21:06 chris heya galen, hows things? 21:06 gmcharlt hi chris 21:02 chris morning 18:45 atz the old display used to concatenate them all and make one big ugly link out of them 18:45 atz there is no 1 call number for a biblio 18:45 atz tim: the problem is that in a large system, you might have 40 different libraries w/ 40 different call numbers 18:23 tim It seem strange that it's not displaying anything since the fields are filled int the database. 18:21 gmcharlt tim: might need some tweaking to display items.itemcallnumber 18:20 tim biblioitems.cn_class has a call number in it and biblioitems.cn_items has something, but it's not our call numbers. 18:19 tim It looks like it's supposed to display cn_class and cn_item. 18:17 tim I'm working on Koha 3 and the search results in the OPAC don't display call numbers. 17:20 thd ryan, kados: where is the Liblime 2.2 demo? 16:22 nengard also - zotero doesn't seem to be working on opac.liblime.com but it works on my install 16:22 nengard zotero question - I don't use this tool much - does anyone know why when you add an item from koha to zotero the view button is grayed out? the only option is to locate and that sends me to worldcat 14:44 kados bbl 14:43 ryan gmcharlt++ 14:43 kados yay 14:42 gmcharlt I agree, and will work on it as part of some general bugfixing that I'll do later this week 14:42 ryan so we need to add that functionality to the smartrules. 14:41 ryan well, there has to be some solution to 2000. 14:41 kados so long as the new ones do all the stame stuff the old ones do 14:41 kados I'd be fine with consolidating and removing the old circ and fines matrices 14:40 ryan and only use the circ matrix if you don't use fines. 14:39 ryan i think we must remove the fines matrix 14:39 ryan however, you can't use the matrix if you're using fines and using defaults 14:39 gmcharlt my real problem with the older ones is bug 2000 14:38 gmcharlt it should be - * entries 14:38 kados IIRC 14:38 kados and Default isn't either 14:38 ryan yes, the sums aren't handled. 14:36 lloyd_ but if people are still using it, and want to keep using it 14:36 lloyd_ yah it'd be better to remove it 14:35 gmcharlt I'd prefer that the older ones get removed at some point 14:35 lloyd_ yea, so surely it makes sense to have an option to show one or the other. Displaying both will just confuse people 14:34 kados they are two views of the exact same information 14:34 kados nope 14:33 lloyd_ I presume there will be a syspref to show the matrix or the new system? 14:32 kados the only purpose of itype at the item level is for circulation codes 14:32 lloyd_ well the old way is ugly and very unuser friendly 14:32 kados and now that you can have ccodes and shelf locations defined at the item level 14:31 kados but IMO, most libraries really don't need that many 14:31 kados yea ... it's good if you have a lot of item types and/or patron categories 14:30 lloyd_ well.. It certainly beats the best part of 100 input boxes being on the screen :p 14:30 kados lloyd_: depends on who you ask :-) 14:28 lloyd_ "Circulation and fines rules (alternate layout)" - big improvement over the old method! 14:28 lloyd_ mmm 14:00 hdl I try to solve another big problem 13:59 hdl will do soon. 13:57 kados hdl: can you try taking a fresh clone and applying it agains git.koha.org? 13:56 kados hdl: there must be something missing ... 13:54 hdl And I had only one patch for that bug. 13:53 hdl yes I rebased. 13:53 kados hdl: are you sure you rebased and have submitted all related patches? 13:53 kados Repository lacks necessary blobs to fall back on 3-way merge. 13:53 kados fatal: sha1 information is lacking or useless (admin/systempreferences.pl). 13:53 kados error: installer/data/mysql/fr-FR/1-Obligatoire/unimarc_standard_systemprefs.sql: patch does not apply 13:52 kados error: patch failed: installer/data/mysql/fr-FR/1-Obligatoire/unimarc_standard_systemprefs.sql:185 13:52 kados error: installer/data/mysql/en/mandatory/sysprefs.sql: patch does not apply 13:52 kados error: patch failed: installer/data/mysql/en/mandatory/sysprefs.sql:183 13:52 kados hdl: no luck: 13:34 hdl git stash ++ 13:34 acmoore I wonder if we would benefit from having one of these bots tell us each time a particular patch was applied. 13:33 hdl resent. 13:32 hdl Is it not an encoding problem ? 13:31 kados hdl: the patch you sent didn't apply, is why I ask 13:31 kados hdl: I believe so 13:30 hdl have you pushed some patches ? 13:30 hdl ok 13:28 kados hdl: after a rebase 13:28 kados hdl: can you re-submit your Addressing bug 1782 patch? 12:23 nengard hiya 12:23 hdl hi nengard