Time  Nick           Message
11:18 hdl            owen around ?
08:19 frederic       hello
07:02 hdl            hi
21:40 cait           good night!
21:39 gmcharlt       you're welcome
21:39 cait           thank you again for helping me with translation and inventory number and everything
21:39 cait           its near to midnight
21:38 gmcharlt       cait: ok. g'night
21:38 cait           i have to go to bed know
21:33 cait           atm only title and author are working
21:33 cait           record.abs is the file...
21:33 cait           ah
21:33 gmcharlt       for searching, just add an entry to your zebra config (the unimarc biblio record.abs, most likley) for the 949$d or whatever subfield you will use
21:32 cait           ?
21:32 cait           and how to search for it=
21:32 cait           hm
21:31 gmcharlt       no, just change the kohafield to blank, then reimport
21:31 cait           so just change it now to items.more_subfields_xml and reimport?
21:30 cait           ah
21:30 cait           i already importet a small academic library with 43.000 items, worked well
21:30 gmcharlt       cait: you don't have to - if you don't explicitly link to a particular column, it will be automatically swept into items.more_subfields_xml
21:29 cait           atm its items.itemnotes
21:29 cait           but where can i link the field to?
21:28 gmcharlt       ah, ok
21:27 cait           i created it
21:27 cait           no
21:26 gmcharlt       in that case, you're good to go if the 949$d is already defined in the UNIMARC framework
21:26 cait           instead of 995
21:26 cait           949 is our tag for holdings
21:26 cait           949 d
21:26 cait           thats already there
21:26 cait           ah ok
21:25 gmcharlt       cait: no, not that one - I mean, pick a letter or number for the subfield code that isn't already used by another field
21:25 cait           dont know what this one is for
21:25 cait           im not sure.. perhaps paidfor?
21:24 gmcharlt       then that subfield is available, and you can load your MARC bibs with the inventory number in that subfield instead of item notes
21:24 cait           hm
21:23 gmcharlt       then in Administration -> MARC Bibliographic framework, add a new subfield definition (must be the same tag as the rest of the item fields)
21:23 gmcharlt       look at list of subfields (for record type item) and pick one that's unused
21:23 cait           i get inventory number at unimarc 949 $d
21:22 gmcharlt       go to Administration -> 'Koha to MARC mapping'
21:21 gmcharlt       not that hard, actually - here's how you do it:
21:21 cait           sounds interesting, but i m not sure, i know how to do it
21:21 gmcharlt       and are available for display, searching, and editing
21:21 gmcharlt       such subfields get mapped (as XML strings) to items.more_subfields_xml
21:20 cait           thoght so, but i doubt adding a new column would work automatically?
21:20 gmcharlt       Koha actually (in the MARC framework) lets you define an item subfield that doesn't have an equivalent in the items table
21:20 cait           yeah
21:20 gmcharlt       cait: but, yeah, sounds like it could use it's own field
21:19 gmcharlt       cait: no, it's fine - it's starting to sound like something that some U.S. libraries used to do
21:19 atz            interesting
21:19 cait           build for germany only
21:18 cait           i m not good in explainingin english. im sorry
21:18 cait           its given to the materials during acquisition process
21:18 cait           you have to keep an inventory book for it too
21:17 cait           every library in germany has an inventory number as far as i know
21:17 gmcharlt       and is assigned automatically
21:17 gmcharlt       cait: no, itemnumber is the internal Koha item ID
21:17 cait           no
21:17 gmcharlt       cait: do the librarians need to search on it?  or change it?  or add new ones? (i.e., is it Horizon-specific, perhaps?)
21:17 cait           can i use itemnumber for that?
21:16 cait           2007/1, 207/3
21:16 cait           somtimes ist like year/number
21:15 atz            and itemnumber (table key)?
21:15 cait           its different from the barcode
21:15 cait           hm
21:14 cait           mom i will look it up
21:14 gmcharlt       cait: what's the inventory number?  is it different from the item barcode?
21:13 cait           atm i have it in itemnotes but this is not a good solution
21:13 cait           can i store the inventory number somewhere?
21:12 cait           ah
21:12 cait           but i will ask him about it and give it to my colleague for translation :)
21:11 cait           french ...
21:11 gmcharlt       cait: paul has a spec or something (in French) - ask him tomorrow
21:11 atz            i don't have any, but paul could probably tell you more
21:10 cait           is there more information about it somewhere?
21:10 cait           ah
21:10 atz            the french guys are building a totally new acq. module
21:10 cait           i think acquisitions will be the main problem
21:09 cait           showing koha and some of the functions
21:09 cait           and koha is  probably not ready for a huge german academic library atm
21:09 atz            what do you have to present?
21:08 cait           wah i dont think so
21:08 atz            plenty of time
21:06 gmcharlt       you're welcome
21:06 cait           thx gmcharlt!
21:06 cait           seems successful
21:05 cait           wow its .....-ing :)
21:05 gmcharlt       try running tmpl_process3.pl again
21:05 cait           ok
21:05 cait           ah
21:05 gmcharlt       now that you've apt-got the package that contained it
21:04 gmcharlt       cait: sorry, wasn't clear - msgmerge is called by tmpl_process3.pl, you don't need to run it directly
21:03 cait           perhabs you can give me an example? there are so many options, im confused
21:03 acmoore        gmcharlt++ # running one test class at a time
21:03 gmcharlt       it appears to merge strings from one PO file to another
21:02 cait           how does msgmerge work?
21:01 cait           ok
21:01 cait           oh
21:01 gmcharlt       btw, -x .*unimarc.* means to exclude files containing 'unimarc' when updating the po file
21:00 cait           gettext is missing, i apt-get it
20:58 gmcharlt       cait: try 'msgmerge'
20:51 cait           my current .po-file ist /home/caitlin/de...
20:50 cait           but as my database ist unimarc it seemed ok ... :(
20:49 cait           i got the line from a mail in the mailinglist and changed the paths ... so well... i dont really know
20:49 cait           thx gmcharlt
20:48 atz            some hidden files?
20:48 atz            maybe gmcharlt can say... what is the .*unimarc.* argument trying to reference?
20:48 gmcharlt       cait: email received - give me a second to try it
20:47 cait            :(
20:47 cait           and im a total linux-newbie
20:47 cait           its ubuntu
20:46 atz            perhaps that argument is off in your command?
20:46 atz            ls -l .*unimarc.*
20:46 cait           drwxr-xr-x 3 koha    koha      4096 2008-04-24 19:51 /usr/share/koha/misc/translator
20:46 cait           i get this:
20:45 atz            ^^ should list all the stuff your operation is attempting to run or read
20:45 atz            ls -ld /usr/share/koha/misc/translator .*unimarc.* /home/caitlin/de-DE-i-opac-t-prog-v-3000000.po
20:45 cait           sorry atz, i dont understand
20:44 atz            *files*
20:43 atz            cait: but you should get lines for the unimarc and 300000.po file
20:43 cait           my translation is not as far as i wanted it to be ... but i hope i can spend more time the next days
20:42 gmcharlt       cait: thx
20:41 cait           gmcharlt: sending...
20:41 cait           seems ok?
20:38 cait           drwxr-xr-x 3 koha    koha      4096 2008-04-24 19:51 /usr/share/koha/misc/translator
20:37 cait           and thx for helping me!
20:37 atz            cait: ls -ld /usr/share/koha/misc/translator .*unimarc.* /home/caitlin/de-DE-i-opac-t-prog-v-3000000.po
20:37 cait           thx gmcharlt , give me your email plz
20:36 paul           gmcharlt: ++
20:36 gmcharlt       cait: paul et al are your best bet from this one, but I'm willing to try this one out if you'll send me a copy of your .po
20:36 cait           testing koha there too... but cant join the chat here
20:36 paul           don't hesitate to ask for help
20:36 cait           cant chat from work
20:36 cait           at least its not some really stupid mistake
20:36 paul           at european time, you'll usually find at least 3 of us (BibLibre : paul, hdl, mc)
20:36 cait           but thx for the help
20:35 cait           im tired too... but a little frustrated
20:35 paul           right ;-)
20:35 cait           in germany its the same
20:35 paul           i'll go to bed now. good luck
20:35 paul           i really don't have any idea. And i'm too tired (10:45PM here in France) to be helpfull.
20:34 cait           caitlin@wombat:/usr/share/koha/misc/translator$ ./tmpl_process3.pl update -i /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/prog/en -r -x .*unimarc.* -s /home/caitlin/de-DE-i-opac-t-prog-v-3000000.po
20:34 cait           yeah its the same
20:34 cait           i try without
20:34 cait           ok
20:34 paul           for update, the -o is useless
20:33 cait            :)
20:33 paul           but at least we're sure it's not a permission problem ;-)
20:33 cait           is -o ok?
20:33 cait           ok
20:33 paul           yep
20:33 paul           the sudo should be useless
20:33 cait           -s are my current .po files, is that correct?
20:32 cait           perhaps its just a stupid mistake?
20:32 paul           I don't have any idea where it can come from, sorry
20:32 paul           very very strange.
20:32 paul           before the message ?
20:32 cait           no
20:32 paul           do you get some .....................
20:32 paul           strange...
20:31 cait           no other message then :(
20:31 paul           just an info. well placed. so not the problem
20:31 cait           Charset in/out: UTF-8 at ./tmpl_process3.pl line 257.
20:31 paul           cait: no other message ?
20:31 paul           no other message ?
20:30 cait           always get : Update FAILED.
20:30 cait           i tried sudo ./tmpl_process3.pl update -i /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/prog/en -r -x .*unimarc.* -s po/de-DE-i-opac-t-prog-v-3000000.po -o /home/caitlin/test
20:30 cait           can somebody help me updating my .po-files plz?
20:24 MatthewMetzger gmcharlt: okay, I will
20:24 gmcharlt       thanks, you too - but yeah, please file a bug
20:23 MatthewMetzger I'll assume that you are on top of it. - Have a great day!
20:22 MatthewMetzger okay. So our time was not in vain. We have found documentation deficiencies. Does a bug need to be filed?
20:20 gmcharlt       yes
20:20 MatthewMetzger is that the line that we uncommented?
20:20 gmcharlt       MatthewMetzger: yeah, that needs to be documented, as well as the record ID field change for MARC21 users upgrading from 2.2.9
20:19 MatthewMetzger gmcharlt: zebra search works now. Thank you so much! :) Now I can wade through some of the other errors (well, maybe later this week). I hope that our time was helpful from a debugging / documentation standpoint. The only thing that I would recommend is that a note about 'make update_zebra_conf' be added to INSTALL and INSTALL.debian for people upgrading from Alpha to Beta2, I couldn't find it, but I may be wrong about it not being
20:14 atz            i have a ticket w/ screenshots from a user where the uppermost options are overlapping other text
20:13 atz            owen: any known CSS issues w/ Opera?
19:53 MatthewMetzger I did do a standard install. I will read that doc.
19:52 gmcharlt       MatthewMetzger: did you do a standard install?  If so, check out section 5 of INSTALL.debian
19:51 MatthewMetzger ls: cannot access /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon: No such file or directory
19:50 gmcharlt       MatthewMetzger: sudo /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon start
19:49 MatthewMetzger s/off/on/
19:49 atz            cool
19:49 MatthewMetzger okay. I'll change the nozebra to off and start the zebrasrv (is there special command for that?)
19:49 paul           atz: problem solved, thanks to mc (and thanks to the great screen tool !)
19:48 MatthewMetzger gmcharlt: so that means that zebra is probably working!
19:48 gmcharlt       so you should be able to start zebrasrv (if you haven't already) and try a search
19:47 gmcharlt       zebra_stop is benign - means "zebraidx has finishing its processing"
19:47 MatthewMetzger it looks like zebra is still stopping at the end.
19:47 MatthewMetzger Here's some of the output at the end: http://rafb.net/p/Hp43Ic13.html
19:45 MatthewMetzger It's definitely doing something different....
19:45 MatthewMetzger I uncommented that line
19:45 MatthewMetzger rebuild_zebra is running
19:43 MatthewMetzger found it.
19:43 gmcharlt       ah, right it would be /etc/koha/zebradb/...
19:42 MatthewMetzger I'll search for the file...
19:42 MatthewMetzger - /etc/zebradb/marc_defs/marc21/biblios/record.abs is emtpy
19:41 MatthewMetzger here goes.
19:41 MatthewMetzger okay...
19:41 gmcharlt       try uncommenting that, then running rebuild_zebra again
19:41 gmcharlt       ok, in /etc/zebradb/marc_defs/marc21/biblios/record.abs, there's a line "#melm 090$c     Local-number:w"
19:41 MatthewMetzger Okay. Is there a way to tell what DB version I'm using without running the scripts again?
19:40 gmcharlt       MatthewMetzger: actually, hold on a second - there's one in particular that I need to look up
19:39 MatthewMetzger I did run the upgrade scripts. I'm guessing that it wouldn't hurt to run them again.
19:39 gmcharlt       is your database upgraded from 2.2?
19:39 gmcharlt       I suspect the "Record didn't contain match fields in (bib1,Local-number)
19:39 MatthewMetzger I'm guessing that the last line should not say 'zebra_stop'
19:38 MatthewMetzger something else is, though
19:38 MatthewMetzger so that's not the problem
19:38 MatthewMetzger I knew I was un-educated :)
19:37 gmcharlt       MatthewMetzger: actually, it is, but it's a temp directory that's deleted at the end of the run.  you can run rebuild_zebra.pl with the -k option to keep the temp directory around for inspection
19:36 MatthewMetzger That's my uneducated guess, anyway.
19:36 MatthewMetzger it seems that the /tmp directory is not being written to.
19:35 MatthewMetzger http://rafb.net/p/qdUMWi91.html
19:34 MatthewMetzger gmcharlt: Yes! :) The urx.chr errors are now gone, but I still have a warning that causes zebra to stop. I'll put the output in a pastebin
19:32 gmcharlt       ok
19:32 MatthewMetzger gmcharlt: I ran 'sudo make  update_zebra_conf' and now /etc/koha/zebradb/etc/urx.chr exists. I'll try running the zebra index thing again.
19:32 gmcharlt       MatthewMetzger: ok.  it is working now?
19:31 MatthewMetzger gmcharlt: perhaps that's what I did wrong.... It looks like I didn't run 'make' by itself to begin with.
19:31 paul           which is the correct result
19:31 atz            XML::LibXML::SAX::Parser=HASH(0x81fe8b0)
19:31 atz            misc/sax_parser_print.pl
19:31 atz            I get:
19:30 paul           iirc, I installed them through CPAN, not through apt-get
19:30 atz            it was one of the MARC/XML packages
19:29 paul           that's what I did
19:29 atz            right
19:29 paul           libxmlparser-perl = installed through apt-get
19:28 paul           which package are u speaking of ?
19:28 paul           XML::SAX::PurePerl=HASH(0x81e59bc)
19:28 paul           whistler:~# /usr/local/koha/misc/sax_parser_print.pl
19:28 atz            no, in my experience, using CPAN is what messed me up  : \
19:28 MatthewMetzger gmcharlt: okay....
19:28 paul           so tried :
19:28 paul           nope, I just saw rebuild_zebra was VERY slow
19:28 paul           atz: do you mean I have to install libxml-parser through CPAN ?
19:28 gmcharlt       MatthewMetzger: hmm - try 'make' and see if it turns up; if so, then do 'make update_zebra_conf' again
19:28 atz            are  you getting some kind of api error, paul ?
19:27 MatthewMetzger gmcharlt: no
19:27 atz            basically it came down to using the debian binary package instead of the CPAN version
19:27 paul           libxml-parser-perl installed too
19:27 paul           libexpat1-dev installed
19:27 atz            ok, i've run into some problems w/ that previously on debian
19:26 paul           debian
19:26 gmcharlt       MatthewMetzger: does blib/ZEBRA_CONF_DIR/etc/urx.chr exist?
19:26 atz            paul: what OS?
19:25 paul           anyone around to help me with a SAX::PurePerl problem ?
19:22 MatthewMetzger ~/koha-3.00.00-beta2/etc/zebradb/etc/urx.chr does exist
19:21 MatthewMetzger ...
19:21 gmcharlt       in your unpackaged Koha distribution, does ./etc/zebradb/etc/urx.chr exist?
19:20 MatthewMetzger gmcharlt: no I don't. I have one in /usr/local/share/idzebra-2.0/tab/urx.chr , but 'ls /etc/koha/zebradb/etc/urx.chr' says that file doesn't exist.
19:19 gmcharlt       also, let me know if you now have an /etc/koha/zebradb/etc/urx.chr
19:18 MatthewMetzger                 blib/PAZPAR2_CONF_DIR /etc/koha/pazpar2
19:18 MatthewMetzger umask 022; /usr/local/bin/perl -MExtUtils::Install -e 'install({@ARGV}, '\''0'\'', 0, '\''0'\'');' -- \
19:18 MatthewMetzger                 blib/ZEBRA_CONF_DIR /etc/koha/zebradb
19:18 MatthewMetzger umask 022; /usr/local/bin/perl -MExtUtils::Install -e 'install({@ARGV}, '\''0'\'', 0, '\''0'\'');' -- \
19:18 gmcharlt       yes please
19:18 MatthewMetzger Should I give you the output of  'make update_zebra_conf'?
19:17 MatthewMetzger I corrected some errors in my /etc/koha.xml, but it didn't seem to help
19:17 MatthewMetzger while you were gone.
19:17 MatthewMetzger hello
19:17 gmcharlt       MatthewMetzger: back
18:48 MatthewMetzger okay.
18:48 gmcharlt       MatthewMeztger: one minute
18:46 MatthewMetzger gmcharlt: how do I know if 'make update_zebra_conf' ran correctly? I get some unfamiliar output and '/usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b' returns the same warnings.
16:36 gmcharlt       MatthewMetzger: you're welcome
16:36 MatthewMetzger gmcharlt: thanks again for your help. I'll have to do the update of the zebra_conf after lunch. I'll let you know if it successfully solves the problem. Thanks again :)
16:34 paul           thx
16:34 gmcharlt       paul: /var/lib/koha/zebradb
16:34 paul           gmcharlt: on a standard setup, where is zebra DB stored ? (in which directory)
16:33 MatthewMetzger Looks like I deleted the package. I'll download it again.
16:29 MatthewMetzger I'll give that a try
16:29 MatthewMetzger ahh! Thank you. Yes, I did install alpha. I have the beta2 package.
16:28 gmcharlt       including the urx.chr file
16:28 gmcharlt       MatthewMetzger: your zebra config seems to date from pre-beta2.  If that's the case, then getting the beta2 package, running through Makefile.PL again, the doing 'make update_zebra_conf' should sync things up
16:26 MatthewMetzger I'll note that line 5: /tmp/2iZjZzmI7F/biblio doesn't seem to be created or exist, but the script gives no error.
16:24 MatthewMetzger http://rafb.net/p/X9SZZa74.html
16:23 gmcharlt       MatthewMetzger: try http://rafb.net/paste/ and if that doesn't work, then paste into IRC
16:22 MatthewMetzger gmcharlt: pastebin.com seems really slow from where I am. Do you mind if I post ten or more lines to IRC?
16:18 gmcharlt       ok
16:18 MatthewMetzger gmcharlt: I'll do it again from the koha user.
16:18 MatthewMetzger gmcharlt: I'm sorry. I ran this as the wrong user.
16:18 MatthewMetzger 11:17:27-05/05 zebraidx(3466) [fatal] Could not select database biblios errCode=109
16:18 MatthewMetzger 11:17:27-05/05 zebraidx(3466) [warn] zebra_lock_create fail fname=/var/lock/koha/zebradb/biblios/shadow..LCK [Permission denied]
16:18 MatthewMetzger 11:17:27-05/05 zebraidx(3466) [warn] zebra_lock_create fail fname=/var/lock/koha/zebradb/biblios/norm..LCK [Permission denied]
16:18 MatthewMetzger 11:17:27-05/05 zebraidx(3466) [log] Loaded filter module /usr/lib/idzebra-2.0/modules/mod-grs-marc.so
16:18 MatthewMetzger 11:17:27-05/05 zebraidx(3466) [log] zebra_start 2.0.28 /etc/koha/zebradb/zebra-biblios.cfg
16:18 MatthewMetzger 11:17:27-05/05 zebraidx(3465) [fatal] Could not select database biblios errCode=109
16:18 MatthewMetzger 11:17:27-05/05 zebraidx(3465) [warn] zebra_lock_create fail fname=/var/lock/koha/zebradb/biblios/shadow..LCK [Permission denied]
16:18 MatthewMetzger 11:17:27-05/05 zebraidx(3465) [warn] zebra_lock_create fail fname=/var/lock/koha/zebradb/biblios/norm..LCK [Permission denied]
16:18 MatthewMetzger hmm... These errors are different than before, looks like a permission issue (which I could probably solve myself), but they are different than before.
16:16 MatthewMetzger I'm running "/usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b" again now. It will give me the exact warnings.
16:15 MatthewMetzger I can't even get zebra started. Just a minute and I'll give you the exact text, but it has something to do with "urx.chr"
16:14 acmoore        gmcharlt, go ahead with MatthewMetzger. we can discuss this database testing stuff later.
16:14 gmcharlt       acmoore: yep
16:14 gmcharlt       what errors are you getting in zebra mode?
16:14 acmoore        gmcharlt, there's lots of discussion about separating tests that verify that the application works on your platform, and tests that are good for developers to run, like pod coverage. I can see us adding some of the second kinds of tests for database stuff and such.
16:13 MatthewMetzger Where should we start?
16:13 gmcharlt       MatthewMetzger: a bit, yes
16:13 MatthewMetzger Hello, I still have some major problems with search in Koha 3 beta2. search.pl is running for long periods of time, taking up most of the server's processing power. I'm using nozebra right now, but tried switching to zebra. I ran into what may be configuration errors on my part or may be bugs. I'm not sure. Does anyone have a bit of time to spend on this?
16:13 acmoore        gmcharlt, sounds good.
16:11 gmcharlt       acmoore: between those that are for normal use of Koha and ones that QA the install
16:10 gmcharlt       acmoore: although we may want to add a 'lots-of-tests' target to t/Makefile, and divvy up the tests
16:09 gmcharlt       acmoore: similarly, the installer itself can be tested that way
16:09 paul           OK, I prefer that
16:09 gmcharlt       paul: oops, you're right - I checked again and I did change the default after all in my patch
16:08 gmcharlt       acmoore: current test case is just a script that runs through the paces.  for test::class, will have to wrapping the DB clearing and rebuilding into KohaTest.pm - full test suite could then clear the database three times and install (the SQL at least) four times, at least as default
16:08 paul                       },
16:08 paul                           extra    => '',
16:08 paul                           default    => '0000-00-00',
16:08 paul                           key        => '',
16:08 paul                           null    => 'NULL',
16:08 paul                           type    => 'date',
16:08 paul                           field    => 'onloan',
16:08 paul                       {
16:08 paul                   items => [
16:07 paul           ??? update22to30, line 1098, reads :
16:07 gmcharlt       actually, git blame says that it's null as of 2007-10-08 (from a patch you made ;-) ) - but the change I made to the default value handling in general may have corrected a bug
16:07 acmoore        gmcharlt, how do you write test cases for those two things?
16:07 paul           so my recent wiki entry will become useless soon (I wrote to manually change the value)
16:06 paul           gmcharlt: it means you changed that recently, as it's 0000-00-00 for me ;-)
16:06 acmoore        good. It's not on my calendar, so I could never figure out why it was in any of my databases. ;)
16:06 gmcharlt       paul: my version of update22to30.pl has items.onloan defaulting to NULL
16:05 paul           that's why I say that
16:05 paul           acmoore: yep, and we agree 0000-00-00 is not a correct value
16:05 gmcharlt       acmoore: NULL
16:05 paul           does your today patch deal with that ?
16:05 acmoore        didn't we recently make some decision about which of those (NULL or 0000-00-00) is preferred and work towards making them all agree?
16:05 paul           kohastructure.sql is RIGHT
16:05 paul           update22to30 is WRONG.
16:05 gmcharlt       but also test cases to confirm in the future that kohastructure.sql and updatedate.pl stay in sync
16:05 paul           note sure i'm clear enough : the update22to30 create items.onloan with default '0000-00-00' while kohastructure.sql has default NULL
16:04 gmcharlt       test cases to confirm DB schema after upgrade from 2.2.9 and the 3.0 alpha and beta
16:04 gmcharlt       I'll be making patches to add test cases later this week
16:04 paul           (i've modified the wiki 2-3 hours ago to tell ppl to change onloan to have NULL as default value, but i think i was wrong : it should be done by changing update22to30.pl
16:04 gmcharlt       paul: yeah, sorry about the size of the patch, but hopefully is for the best
16:03 gmcharlt       paul: the only thing it should be changing is the default value
16:03 paul           this changes a lot of things !
16:03 paul           I just realise that in update22to30.pl, items.onloan default is '0000-00-00' where it is NULL in kohastructure.sql
16:02 paul           are those patches changing something to items.onloan ?
16:02 gmcharlt       hi paul
16:02 paul           gmcharlt: ?
15:04 gmcharlt       hdl: patches in question now submitted to patch list
14:07 gmcharlt       hdl: thanks
14:07 hdl            ok for me
14:06 paul           hdl, some minuts available for that ?
14:06 paul           that will be difficult to find time for that today & tomorrow i'm away.
14:05 gmcharlt       I've ended up with a number of changes to update22to30.pl, so would like to know if you'd be willing to take a look at a patch today or tomorrow
14:05 gmcharlt       paul: as you know, I've been working on DB schema reconciliation
14:04 paul           hi gmcharlt
14:02 gmcharlt       greetings #koha
13:04 mc             sorry
13:04 mc             oops
13:04 mc             .kf
12:52 nengard        translaters - looks like someone is working on a greek translation: http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz/2008/05/05/koha-in-greek/
12:16 hdl            Thx nengard
12:16 hdl            no problems.
12:16 nengard        hdl i did two this morning - one was invalid one wasn't - i'll make sure i makr them right next time
12:15 hdl            from what I saw, you marked it resolved/fixed and not invalid.
12:14 paul           yes, you marked "invalid" the bug about RSS not working on safari
12:14 nengard        hdl - didn't I do that today ... mark it invalid?
12:13 hdl            nengard: when you create a new bug and realize it is not, I'd rather you mark bug as INVALID than marking resolved.
12:12 nengard        paul hdl - will do!
12:12 hdl            nengard: please.
12:12 paul           nengard: (hi) I would say "yes", as IE6 is still widely used.
12:05 nengard        should i submit as bug/enhancement?
12:05 nengard        maybe ... for those with older browsers
12:05 hdl            nengard: should we add a subscribe icon  in result lists ?
12:04 nengard        just wanted to be sure
12:04 nengard        thanks hdl
12:04 nengard        hdl lots of libraries/librarians in the US do ... I have it here - but don't see a way to subscribe cause it doesn't have autofeed detection
12:04 hdl            nengard: as far as I know, no rss feeds other than search results page