Time  Nick     Message
09:56 paul     sweet dreams chris
09:38 ru55el   hi all
09:38 chris    hey russ
21:18 chris    hi tina
20:17 chris    opus here in nz use it
20:17 chris    yeah, one of the defined labels is a wrap around one
20:17 chris    sorry was just getting kahu ready for daycare
20:08 fbcit    so maybe using a 1" X 2 5/8" for the wrap around?
20:07 fbcit    that makes since
20:06 chris    it all depends what ur labels look like
20:06 chris    and it folds around so the front bit has barcode
20:06 chris    so on the spine you have callumber, or author or whatever
20:05 chris    yeah lots fold around
20:05 fbcit    barcode on spine labels?
20:05 fbcit    hrm
20:04 chris    kbarcode even
20:04 chris    lots use kbarode
20:04 chris    some are
20:03 fbcit    or are they?
20:03 fbcit    so how are other's doing spine labels?
20:02 fbcit    so I'll just specify callnumber since that field appears to contain dewey here
20:02 chris    yep, it keeps changing
20:01 owen     fbcit: I'd say call number handling is broken in Koha at the moment. There's no working standard for how to display call numbers
19:59 chris    heh
19:56 chris    hows the camp going nicole?
19:56 chris    some might also just have LC call numbers
19:55 chris    yep but some might also just have dewey, i think fbcit is asking where it should show up in that case
19:54 nengard  call number being LC call number 090/050 or Local call number 099
19:53 nengard  it's two different marc fields
19:53 nengard  some libraries will have a dewey number and a call number
19:53 chris    heh yeah if you choose to use dewey in sysprefs, then id expect it to say dewey i think
19:48 fbcit    or it may be the fact that I'm not a librarian ;-)
19:47 fbcit    so if callnumber == dewey shouldn't it also show up in the dewey field?
19:46 chris    dewey is just one form of callnumber
19:46 fbcit    chris: what's the difference between 'call number' and 'dewey' && why do what I think are dewey show up under 'call number' and not vice-versa?
19:40 chris    yep whats up?
19:34 fbcit    u around chris?
18:30 qiqo     hi guys
18:30 owen     actually opac/rss
18:28 fbcit    looks like another situation where the apache2 user needs write permissions to /usr/share/koha/misc/rss
18:27 owen     Hmmm... So there's a configuration step somewhere that's not covered by the installer?
18:27 fbcit    owen: I just submitted a patch correcting patronimages syspref to YesNo and correcting the description as well. Defaults to No (0).
18:25 nengard  looks like it's not a bug after all - it's a NOTE for the manual - looks like a permission issue
18:25 nengard  owen: hdl says it's not his fault
18:16 nengard  owen: hehe
18:12 owen     paul still around?
18:12 owen     looks like hdl was the last to touch that file...you can bug him in person! :)
18:09 nengard  i'll file the bug
18:09 nengard  CGI::Carp
18:09 nengard  Cannot open file rss/O4fJfRXo6xHlGqJemldw6Q for write: Permission denied at /home/nce/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/opac-rss.pl line 159
18:09 nengard  Software error:
18:09 owen     It's a legitimate question, whether we should emphasize the RSS feature by keeping that icon there like we have it in dev_week
18:09 nengard  uh oh
18:09 nengard  i'll use that - someone here reported a problem so i want to poke and see if it's a bug
18:09 nengard  sorry - jet lag and all
18:09 nengard  it is!! I'm a dummy.....
18:08 owen     Is it not auto-discovering the feed and displaying the icon in Firefox's location bar?
18:08 nengard  yes
18:08 owen     so you want to see the little RSS icon next to the "returned x results" text?
18:07 nengard  http://opac-nce.dev.kohalibrary.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=harry
18:07 nengard  owen: sorry - no i just want the rss feed to show in the opac on the search results page like it does on the athens county opac
18:06 owen     nengard: I'm not sure I understand what you mean. You want to be able to subscribe to a search in the staff client like you can in the OPAC?
18:04 nengard  quick question - is RSS for search results an option in the admin? (like athens county)? Or is it more difficult than that - i wanted to turn it on in my demo and test
17:57 owen     Okay
17:57 fbcit    owen: let me know if the issue of the cardnumber field is a problem when you make the changes to the patron detail screen
17:55 fbcit    gmcharlt-camp: so this should work nicely regardless of the mangling that goes on in between the client and webserver.
17:54 fbcit    gmcharlt-camp: it turns out that CGI::url works with the info in the request header and so returns the actual FQDN:port contained there
17:54 owen     that's great, fbcit. No I don't need a copy, thanks
17:52 fbcit    I've submitted it, but if you like, I'll send you a copy
17:52 fbcit    I've cooked up a patch to patronimage.pl that defaults to patron-blank.png if no image exists for a given cardnumber in the db
17:51 owen     Yes
17:51 fbcit    owen around?
17:34 nengard  paul: very good: http://www.yelp.com/biz/greek-cusina-portland#hrid:5qrYuqsebgJwYM6Cj8ofHw
17:33 paul     hello nengard. How was your greek restaurant with hdl ?
17:18 fbcit    though it will not pickup on firewall mangling
17:18 fbcit    hrmm
17:17 fbcit    gmcharlt: got around it using CGI::url(-base => 1) which I *think* should return the correct FQDN:port each time.
17:05 fbcit    gmcharlt: thanks, hope your presentation goes well. I'd like to be there to hear it.
17:04 paul     (hdl around ?)
17:04 paul     hello gmcharlt
17:04 gmcharlt fbcit: could be -- just need to be careful about using it, since it could easily be wrong -- e.g., if an OPAC is accessed both from outside a firewall and within, and has different internal and external names
17:00 fbcit    is that a desirable config var?
16:58 gmcharlt just need to be sure that split-server installations are handled
16:58 gmcharlt fbcit: re FQDN  -- it's not in koha-conf.xml, but could be added
16:55 gmcharlt yep -- will be starting the Koha Camp presentation soon
16:55 fbcit    gmcharlt: question: can I retrieve the FQDN from some variable in Koha for a given install?
16:54 fbcit    gmcharlt: fine. you're @ code4lib?
16:50 gmcharlt hi fbict -- how goes it?
16:43 fbcit    owen: I have patronimage.pl displaying patron-blank.png when no image exists, but have one more caveat to overcome before committing
16:41 fbcit    morning gmcharlt-away
16:20 owen     Yes
16:20 fbcit    does that image exist currently?
16:19 fbcit    I can add that
16:19 owen     Could patronimage.pl return /intranet-tmpl/prog/img/patron-blank.png if there were no patron image in the database?
16:18 owen     Yes, I've just committed some changes to make that happen again. It's javascript-based, but I suppose your patronimage script could to it just as easily
16:17 fbcit    also, kados mentioned that there might be code somewhere to display a "no image available" placeholder image?
16:17 fbcit    it's that way in HEAD
16:16 owen     Hunh, yeah that's out of date alright
16:15 fbcit    and the value is '0'
16:15 fbcit    the syspref description here is: "Enable patron images for the Staff Client; to enable, specify a file extension (e.g., png)"
16:14 fbcit    so I don't think the scenario we're considering will confuse the script, but we should test to see.
16:14 owen     That's what it is in my system, but I don't know where that came from
16:13 fbcit    re cardnumber: if the user passes up a zip file, $cardnumber is overwritten by the cardnumbers contained in the *link.txt file in all cases
16:13 fbcit    I'm thinking to change it to a YES/NO pref and clarify the description somewhat. Do you foresee any issues?
16:12 owen     It's used in some other places to determine whether or not to load the patron-image javascript check
16:11 owen     It /should/ be used in circ-menu.inc, but I see it's not
16:11 fbcit    owen: are you aware of anywhere the patronimages syspref is actually used?
16:10 fbcit    it should not be difficult to manipulate the variable there
16:09 fbcit    let me look at the code for a moment
16:09 fbcit    right
16:09 owen     Yeah, I just thought it'd be nice to not clear it in case they didn't really mean to.
16:08 fbcit    the javascript may be able to be mod'd to clear that field when hidden...?
16:08 fbcit    s/lease/least/
16:08 fbcit    I may need to add some code to override that var or undefine it  at lease in that case
16:07 owen     I could easily empty the cardnumber field when the user clicks 'zip', but I'd rather not punish the user from playing around
16:07 fbcit    hmmm
16:06 owen     The card number field will still be filled in
16:06 owen     I'm wonder what happens if someone changes their mind and chooses 'zip' at that point
16:05 owen     ...so that the card number is pre-filled
16:05 owen     Here's why I ask: I'm making changes so that you can pass a cardnumber to that page from the patron detail screen
16:05 fbcit    if you select the zip file radio button, the cardnumber field should become hidden
16:04 fbcit    you should not be able to do both
16:04 owen     If you check 'zip file' but pass a cardnumber value to the script, will the script get confused?
16:04 fbcit    k
16:04 owen     fbcit: I've got a question about the new patron image upload form
15:59 owen     Hi fbcit
15:59 fbcit    g'morning paul, owen
15:58 owen     I believe it's 8AM
15:57 paul     (which GMT are they ?)
15:57 paul     owen : what time is it in Portland now ?
15:32 owen     Hi paul
15:31 paul     'morning owen
15:28 owen     Hi tinaburger, are you at code4lib?