Time Nick Message 12:53 fbcit-away hdl: u around? 15:14 fbcit g'morning koha 15:14 atz greets fbcit 15:44 fbcit any opinions on a css editor other than text editors? 15:45 atz fbcit: there are some good firefox plugins 15:45 atz they allow realtime re-rendering based on css edits 15:47 atz yeah, i've used that... i forget if (the otherwise excellent) firebug allows the same thing 15:48 fbcit can more than one plugin be run? 15:48 atz sure, i usually have firebug and the tidy/w3c validator 15:52 atz yeah... firebug seems to be the total package 15:53 atz does the same realtime changes, shows a color block on mouseover of #000AAA (hex color) terms, and checks syntax 15:56 fbcit this should make life a little easier... ;-) 15:59 atz it's funny how 8 or 10 years ago that functionality would have been part of some IDE 16:00 fbcit apparently it is part of Visual Studio from M$ 16:16 atz no problem. it's the availability of stuff like firebug that makes FF that much cooler. 20:09 Brooke Howdy 20:09 chris hey brooke 20:09 Brooke :) 20:10 kados hey brooke 20:10 Brooke :) ++ 20:11 Brooke so, I must ask the question on everyone's mind 20:11 Brooke when the hell is 3.0 coming out? 20:11 kados when it's ready 20:11 kados we humbly await your patches :-) 20:12 Brooke is there an unstable version out yet? 20:12 kados no, we're waiting on the installer to be written 20:13 chris you can install it from git, if you have a bunch of patience and time to read irc logs 20:13 Brooke *nod* 20:13 Brooke how long will the installer take? 20:14 Brooke I'm trying not to be a pain, but there are an increasing number of people asking me about this 20:15 kados can't squeeze blood from a stone 20:17 chris its pretty hard to predict, its getting pretty close tho, its just an easy installer that is left big to do 20:17 Brooke *nod* 20:23 Brooke so how does a non programmer throw in some help? 20:24 kados still have access to that v3 install brooke? 20:25 Brooke nope, it keeps wiping my easy to remember login and password 20:26 kados :) 20:26 Brooke 007 keeps blowing his cover 20:29 kados I was thinking the other evening I should whip up a project-wide v3 demo of the opac and staff client that auto-updates nightly 20:29 Brooke good thinking :) 20:29 Brooke that would set jittery folks unjittery 20:30 Brooke because I could point to it and say 20:30 kados who's jittery? 20:30 Brooke "There! Behold! I did not maketh shite up!" 20:35 Brooke hi mason 08:13 JYL57 Hello koha world ! 08:14 chris hi jyl57 08:15 JYL57 hi chris, are you talented in mysql on debian ?! I wonder a few things after a disc crash... 08:15 chris oh no, disc crash doesnt sound good 08:16 JYL57 :-) 24H mission is mine ! 08:16 JYL57 have preserved my /var directory so I should be able to come back... 08:16 chris excellent 08:17 JYL57 But I've installed Etch instead of my old Sarge and was also in an old koha version 08:18 JYL57 So I've to choose what to do now... 1) Go back to mysql 4.1 and my old koha version 08:18 JYL57 2) Try to use that data to go for a more recent upgrade 08:19 chris what version were you running? 08:19 chris koha 2.2.9 works ok with mysql 5 08:20 JYL57 I'm not sure about my old version... 2.2.4 I think 08:21 chris do you have any experience with Xen jyl? 08:22 chris you could run up a xen instance with the old debian running in that 08:22 JYL57 nope 08:22 JYL57 haha that would be great