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12:50 fbcit-away chris?
12:51 fbcit-away kados?
12:55 kados      hiya fbcit-away
12:55 kados      gmcharlt should be around in about an hour
12:56 kados      fbcit-away: I'm assuming you sent your patches to patches@koha.org as per usual, eh?
12:56 kados      fbcit-away: chris is sick with the flu and I'm 'acting QA' at the moment, so I'll have a look and forward those on to Galen this morning
12:57 kados      fbcit-away: it's just one patch?
12:57 kados      Second try:Corrected bad pathing for default Perl base dir. Default now matches Debia
13:07 hdl        hi
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13:46 owen       kados around?
13:52 owen       Anyone here who knows about patron image upload in 3.0?
14:01 kados      hiya owen
14:01 kados      I committed it
14:01 kados      but don't know much more
14:01 kados      there are some funky requirements
14:02 owen       Hi kados, I was trying to figure out where the patronimages dir was supposed to be, but I found it
14:02 kados      cool
14:02 kados      the uploaded file needs to be in a directory that's zipped up
14:02 kados      with some kind of mapping file inside
14:02 owen       Oh, in a zipped directory?
14:02 kados      yea, I think so
14:02 kados      it's kinda weird
14:03 kados      I didn't have much chance to test it
14:03 kados      but it's on my lise
14:03 kados      list I mean
14:03 kados      bbiab
14:04 owen       I wonder if it's easier for users to create that mapping file or to rename the files according to the patron cardnumber/borrowernumber?
14:10 hdl        kados : in my opinion your way to display holdings in resultlists is really less readable than the old way. For instance :
14:10 hdl        i14.hdlaurent.paulpoulain.com root
14:11 owen       hdl: I prefer this way for the OPAC, but I think the intranet should keep the old way
14:12 hdl        I cannot see what a result list look like in OPAC at the moment.
14:14 hdl        @or @and @and @and lost st-numeric gt 0 @not @attr "1=_ALLRECORDS" @attr 2=103 '' @attr 1=8002 @attr 2=103 ''
14:14 hdl        This is added to search and make it fail.
14:19 kados      hdl: one of three probs:
14:19 kados      1. no 'lost' in your ccl.properties
14:19 kados      2. no 'lost' in your record.abs
14:19 kados      3. no 'lost' in your bib1.att
14:20 kados      4. (might require a re-index)
14:20 hdl        But hidelostitems is disabled !!!
14:20 kados      owen: good questions re: mapping vs renaming
14:20 kados      hdl: ahh, in that case, my fault, lemme take a look
14:21 owen       Is it a security risk that the patronimages directory has to be chmod 777?
14:21 kados      owen: shouldn't need to be, but it will need to be chown www-data
14:21 owen       Will the installer handle that?
14:22 kados      yes, it should
14:24 kados      hdl: are you sure hidelostitems is disabled?
14:24 kados      hdl: it is properly wrapped in opac/opac-search.pl
14:24 kados      # add OPAC 'hidelostitems'
14:24 kados      # not items with
14:24 kados      if (C4::Context->preference('hidelostitems')) {
14:24 kados          $query ="($query) not ((lost,st-numeric gt 0) or ( allrecords,AlwaysMatches='' not lost,AlwaysMatches=''))";
14:24 kados          warn "Q".$query;
14:24 kados      }
14:26 kados      hdl: I've just tested in my OPAC and it's not called if hidelostitems is set to OFF
14:26 kados      hdl: please confirm if you're experiencing a bug
14:26 hdl        kados : not any more.
14:27 kados      cool
14:27 hdl        I changed hidelostitems to ON and OFF then problem was washed away.
14:27 owen       Do we need a Bugzilla component for every different Tool (I'm thinking of patron images at the moment), or should there be a component for Tools?
14:28 kados      owen: ryan and I discussed this yesterday, I think it depends on the tool
14:28 kados      for some tools, there is a specific person who manages it
14:28 kados      for others it's more generic
14:28 kados      so I'll make a component for 'Tools' ... just a sec
14:28 kados      (the patronimages is a good example of a generic one)
14:29 kados      owen: added
14:29 kados      hehe
14:29 kados      yea, sorry bout that
14:29 kados      you can blame me :-)
14:30 owen       The real problem is I'm not sure where I'm going to put it
14:30 kados      *nod*
14:31 kados      so we're down to 256 bugs, from about 318 on Sunday
14:31 kados      not bad for a thanksgiving weekend ;-)
14:33 owen       If only /all/ of us were single with no kids ;)
14:39 kados      heh
14:47 hdl        kados : language selection seems not to add correct limits index does it ?
14:49 gmcharlt   good morning #koha
14:49 owen       hi gmcharlt
14:49 kados      hdl: language selection from where?
14:49 kados      hdl: opac or staff client?
14:49 hdl        languages selection in advsearch.tmpl
14:49 hdl        any.
14:50 kados      works OK for me
14:51 kados      ahh, I see
14:51 kados      yes, you're right
14:51 kados      OK, I'll add that to my list
14:51 kados      hdl: thanks for noticing
14:52 kados      I see this also has changed from dev-week
14:52 hdl        you're welcome.
14:52 kados      it should have ln:ara etc
14:53 kados      instead of just ara
14:53 hdl        yes.
14:55 kados      hmmm, it seems that's been removed wholesale from the opac-advsearch.tmpl :/
14:56 fbcit-away kados: that patch is a corrected version of one you committed the other day. I submitted both at the time, but the wrong one was committed.
14:57 fbcit-away It only temporarily fixes one issue.
14:57 fbcit-away brb... after Gk
14:58 kados      fbcit-away: ok, good to know, I'll have a closer look
15:04 kados      fbcit-away: ok, applied and pushed up with galen's approval :-)
15:23 kados      morning atz
15:24 atz        greets
15:24 gmcharlt   hi joe
15:25 atz        in response to your queries and greeting, hello gmcharlt
15:41 kados      owen: have you considered how one would change the default koha logos in the staff client in a upgrade-survivable way?
15:42 kados      owen: would it make sense to have one CSS file that's parsed by HTML::Template to allow us to use a syspref or sth?
15:45 owen       I'm not sure what you mean about changing the logos
15:45 kados      ok, so use case: someone has a logo they want to use in place of the black koha logo
15:45 kados      like what we have on the opac
15:46 kados      (in fact, we have such a person :-))
15:47 atz        I saw a comment already about how to do that
15:47 atz        I forget where though, since it wasn't what I was working on at the time
15:49 owen       Is it possible to have HTML::Template parse a CSS file?
15:51 kados      owen: sure, just make it as a .inc file and put it in the appropriate dir
15:51 kados      and do a TMPL_INCLUDE NAME="filename.inc"
15:51 kados      it'll have to be embedded in the page though
15:52 kados      can't be external
15:52 kados      at least not under the current design
15:52 owen       Yeah, I thought you  meant have H::T parse a linked css file
15:52 kados      we coudl do that, but would reqire a bit more trickiness than we currently allow
15:52 kados      and serving up something via CGI is about 1000 times slower than a static file
15:52 kados      so we'd only want to do it for a few things, like the logo
15:57 owen       That's certainly doable. We haven't done any of the CSS file organization that we talked about at the beginning of this templating process
15:57 owen       That's one of the things still on my list
15:59 kados      *nod*
16:00 fbcit      morning koha
16:01 gmcharlt   morning fbcit
16:02 fbcit      gmcharlt: got a minute to discuss makefile?
16:02 gmcharlt   sure
16:04 fbcit      after some thought, I concluded that the current method of glob-ing through the dir structure seemed a bit brute force and not easily scalable
16:05 fbcit      so I wrote some code to recurse through the dir tree beginning at the point Makefile.PL is run from...
16:06 fbcit      I then added some regex conditionals to setup %result...
16:06 gmcharlt   ok, with you so far
16:07 fbcit      this would allow any changes in the dir tree to be picked up automagically with only possibly the addition/deletion/modification of a regex conditional
16:07 fbcit      and maybe not even that if the dir tree is cleaned up a bit to start with.
16:07 fbcit      but
16:08 fbcit      I got lost in the current dir tree confusion... :-(
16:08 gmcharlt   i.e., the Zebra config files?
16:08 fbcit      yes
16:09 fbcit      I'm unsure of what you are thinking. I have chris's patches.
16:09 fbcit      no
16:09 gmcharlt   well, as of this morning the initial move of all MARC21 and UNIMARC zebra config files to etc/ instead of misc/ is complete
16:09 fbcit      not confused with zebra
16:10 gmcharlt   ok, then what?
16:10 fbcit      rather with such things as why some tmpl files are in the cgi-bin while others are in the perl5
16:10 kados      can't we pick a simpler convention?
16:11 fbcit      not perl5 but the INST_LIB dir
16:11 fbcit      which is different it appears for different os's
16:12 fbcit      there also appears to be a significant number of files/dirs in the repo which were not installed by the original Makefile.PL
16:13 fbcit      but that may be incorrect based on my lack of understanding of exactly what should or should not be installed and where.
16:14 gmcharlt   at moment, not seeing a good reason for the templates to go off of INST_LIBDIR
16:16 gmcharlt   fbcit: just to let you know where I'm coming from
16:16 gmcharlt   I am diving into the details of the installer just starting this week
16:16 gmcharlt   at first reading
16:17 gmcharlt   I'm inclined to agree that the installation directory targets need to be cleaned up
16:19 fbcit      gmcharlt: I'll be glad to forward you a patch with the changes I mentioned for you to see what I've done if you like.
16:19 gmcharlt   fbcit: please do
16:20 fbcit      it does not quite duplicate the current installed dir stree...
16:20 fbcit      tree, that is.
16:20 gmcharlt   this afternoon and tomorrow I will be figuring out the current state of the installer
16:20 fbcit      and it does not included chris's changes to allow marcflavor and lang selection.
16:21 gmcharlt   I have chris's patches as well, so can integrate them with yours
16:21 fbcit      my conditionals will *have* to be helped out a bit as well.
16:22 gmcharlt   ok
16:22 gmcharlt   I'll also be participating in thd's koha-devel thread about the installer
16:23 gmcharlt   and hope to have a complete picture of what needs to be changed by Tuesday afternoon
16:23 fbcit      also, I was working on an older copy of Makefile.PL so some changes in the dep's section do not apply.
16:23 gmcharlt   and maybe do a chat on #koha on Wednesday among all interested parties
16:23 fbcit      k
16:23 owen       kados: regarding http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1101
16:23 fbcit      anytime Wed after 11am est is clear on my schedule.
16:24 owen       I filed the original bug assuming that opac-renew.pl could /not/ process multiple items
16:24 gmcharlt   ok; I send out the proposal for a chat on koha-devel by this afternoon
16:24 gmcharlt   s/I/I'll/
16:25 fbcit      where do you want me to send the patch?
16:26 gmcharlt   fbcit: galen.charlton@liblime.com
16:26 kados      owen: I'm not sure that assumption is correct
16:27 kados      owen: if you add the code to the template and it doesn't work I'll add the code to th script ;-)
16:27 owen       Okay :)
16:28 owen       uh... except not even normal opac renewals are working: Can't use string ("0") as a HASH ref while "strict refs" in use at /home/oleonard/koha/production/intranet/modules/C4/Circulation.pm line 1663.
16:33 kados      :-)
16:34 kados      could you file a bug report (sorry)
16:36 kados      owen:  I'd patch the template anyway so whoever fixes that bug can test both behaviors :-)
16:55 tumer      owen around?
16:55 owen       Yes
16:55 tumer      hi there i believe u nuse winbox?
16:55 owen       Yes
16:55 tumer      i am looking something like tortoise to access git
16:56 hdl        hi tumer
16:56 tumer      hi hdl
16:56 hdl        how are you ?
16:56 tumer      very busy as always
16:57 tumer      owen can you access git from a windows box?
16:57 owen       Yes, I use this: http://code.google.com/p/msysgit/
16:57 owen       It's not a GUI, though
16:58 tumer      thanks owen
17:01 tumer      oven:it will be very hard for me without GUI but lets see
17:02 owen       It has taken practice, but I'm quite comfortable with the essentials now
17:03 tumer      unfortunately currently short of time for practice
18:54 owen       kados back?
19:55 masonj     morning #koha
19:56 owen       hi masonj
19:58 masonj     heya owen
20:13 kados      owen: sup?
20:14 owen       I was trying to add the XISBN stuff to the opac, and wasn't getting any results.
20:14 kados      hum ... it wasn't already there?
20:15 owen       Uh... not that I could find?
20:15 owen       I found it in the staff client, and copied over the markup
20:15 kados      hmmm
20:16 kados      the code's in opac-detail.pl
20:16 kados      you've got OPACFRBRizeEditions ?
20:17 kados      syspref enabled?
20:18 kados      owen: is it working on the staff client, and just not on the opac?
20:18 kados      might also want to check your OCLC settings
20:18 kados      and/or ThingISBN, etc.
20:20 owen       I see a FRBRizeEditions syspref, but not a OPACFRBRizeEditions  one
20:20 owen       Should there be both?
20:22 owen       Looks like it is working in the staff client
20:22 kados      yea, should be both
20:22 kados      I musta missed adding that to updatedatabase
20:22 kados      try adding it and see if that fixes it
20:23 kados      sorry bout that
20:24 owen       Yep, that fixes it
20:24 kados      sweet
20:24 owen       Is there something else new? Similar items?
20:24 kados      I'll add that to my lise for tonight
20:24 kados      yea
20:24 kados      Simiilar items is another amazon web service
20:24 kados      and it has two options
20:24 kados      run by itself
20:24 kados      or run together with xISBN
20:25 kados      in wich case the ISBN from amazon is sent to OCLC for processing, then the restuls are tested against the local db
20:25 kados      if it sounds complicated that's because it is :-)
20:25 kados      but I just couldn't help myself :-)
20:26 owen       And that still needs to be added to the templates?
20:26 kados      no, it's handled in the back-end
20:26 kados      meaning, depending on your preferences, it will populate the SIMILAR items loop appropriately
20:27 kados      does that make sense?
20:27 kados      (it does need to be added to the OPAC I think)
20:27 owen       So it either replaces the XISBN stuff or supplements it, depending on which option you pick?
20:28 kados      not quite
20:28 kados      they are completely separate services
20:28 kados      xisbn takes one ISBN and gives you back a list of identical works
20:28 kados      amazon simlar items just shows you 'related' items
20:28 kados      not identical ones
20:29 kados      the similar items feature can also be passed through xisbn which sort of guarantees you'll get a match on the 'related items' and will show you all editions of them
20:29 kados      in the local catalog
20:29 kados      if that makes sense
20:29 kados      it's pretty cool when you see it happen
20:30 kados      :-)
20:30 kados      so in terms of interface design
20:30 owen       the similar items are output separately from the other editions?
20:30 kados      I'd keep them separate
20:30 kados      ie, 'similar items' is one feature
20:30 kados      and 'editions' is a tab
20:30 kados      I'd probably use amazon itself as a design paradigm for the simiilar items feature
20:31 kados      place it near the bottom of the page or something
20:31 owen       What are the relevant system preferences for that service?
20:31 kados      lemme check
20:33 kados      XISBNAmazonSimilarItems will turn on/off combining amazon's similar items with xisbn
20:33 kados      AmazonSimilarItems will turn on/off amazon's similar items
20:33 kados      AmazonContent needs to be on as well
20:34 kados      as does XISBN
20:34 kados      and ThingISBN if you don't want to use oclc
20:34 kados      :-)
20:34 kados      FRBRizeEditions is used strictly for the Editions tab ON/OF
20:34 kados      F
20:34 owen       The similar items sysprefs need to be added to updatedatabase too, I guess. I don't have those.
20:35 kados      k, I'll add that to the list, sorry
20:37 owen       I see the XISBN stuff in detail.tmpl, but nothing that looks like similar items
20:38 kados      hmmm
20:39 kados      yea, doesn't look like it's in there :/
20:42 kados      ok, I'll email you what I think shoudl work
20:43 kados      owen: sent
20:43 kados      one thing to note
20:43 kados      the barcode example is just showing how to get item-level data out
20:44 kados      ie, showing that you have both item-level and biblio-level access with your loop
20:44 kados      same applies with the XISBN feature
20:44 kados      I figured you'd have your own display ideas about what should show up
20:44 owen       I was curious about the barcode output in the XISBN stuff, it looked clunky.
20:44 kados      yea, definitely not designed for production use :-)
20:55 owen       kados: I'm also not getting Amazon descriptions in opac-detail.pl
20:55 owen       In dev_week we had <!-- TMPL_IF NAME="item_description" -->
20:55 owen       etc.
20:56 owen       ..or reviews either, I guess
20:57 owen       Shoot, I gotta go.
20:57 owen       Gotta save it for later
20:59 kados      :/
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00:31 aindilis`  ping
00:32 aindilis`  I have a few questions regarding barcode and also security
00:32 owen       Shout them out, and see if anyone can answer
00:33 aindilis`  can you print barcodes from a command line instead of the web interface - the web interface died, although I don't know if I have the prerequisite modules installed.
00:33 aindilis`  we're about to barcode our library
00:33 aindilis`  Is there any reason to print them instead of ordering them?
00:33 aindilis`  are there predefined Avery-type labels
00:33 owen       No
00:34 owen       You can print them from Koha if you want, but it's not required
00:34 owen       Koha doesn't care what kind of barcodes you use, as long as your barcode scanner can read them
00:34 aindilis`  How would one affix a lamination sheet over? where would you acquire that?
00:34 masonj     kbarcode might do the trick too
00:34 aindilis`  is a usb barcode reader recommended?
00:35 owen       aindilis`: you can buy clear stickers to stick on top of the printed barcodes, if that's what you mean
00:35 aindilis`  yes
00:35 aindilis`  any sources on the stickers, or what they might be called?
00:35 masonj     any  barcode reader that works for you :)
00:36 aindilis`  okay regarding security
00:36 owen       One of the major US suppliers is Gaylord, and they call them barcode protectors
00:36 aindilis`  thank you
00:36 aindilis`  we would like to not store records of who has checked out books after they return them, and in general store as little patron information as possible etc.
00:36 aindilis`  is there a maximum security configuration?
00:37 kados      hiya owen
00:37 aindilis`  also can you use config files instead of the database or import config files to the database?
00:37 kados      owen: you're up late :-)
00:37 owen       Yeah, had a free moment and couldn't stay away
00:37 kados      heh
00:38 aindilis`  correction -maximum privacy configuration
00:39 owen       aindilis`: As far as I know there isn't anything built into 2.2.x that will purge patron data for you
00:39 aindilis`  shall I write it?
00:39 aindilis`  also, is there a contact point on packaging koha for debian?
00:39 owen       There is such a feature in 3.0
00:39 aindilis`  oh
00:40 owen       ...although I'm not sure on the specifics of how it works
00:40 aindilis`  hmmm, I'm using 2.2 or something, I guess I'll upgrade
00:40 owen       3.0 isn't out yet
00:40 owen       Soon :)
00:40 aindilis`  oh
00:40 aindilis`  thanks
00:40 aindilis`  when roughly?
00:41 kados      aindilis`: should be an installable packaged version ready within a week or so
00:41 kados      a 'beta'
00:41 aindilis`  nice
00:41 aindilis`  packaged how?
00:41 aindilis`  debian?
00:41 kados      well, just a stock installer
00:41 aindilis`  ah
00:41 kados      debian packages coming soon
00:41 owen       http://search.gmane.org/?query=debian+package&author=&group=gmane.comp.misc.koha&sort=relevance&DEFAULTOP=and&xP=Zdevian%09Zpackag&xFILTERS=Gcomp.misc.koha---A
00:42 kados      yea, and there's also that :-)
00:42 kados      I'm guessing Koha 3.0 will make it into debian testing before too long
00:42 kados      3.x anyway
00:42 owen       :D
00:42 aindilis`  nice
00:43 aindilis`  are all the modules packaged for debian, I can talk to debian-perl to get that process started otherwise
00:43 aindilis`  I don't recall that they are
00:43 kados      someone was workign on that
00:43 kados      but they could doubtless use some help
00:43 kados      I'd recommend posting a mail to koha-devel asking abou tit
00:43 aindilis`  okay
00:43 kados      MJ Ray has been keeping tabs on that IIRC
00:44 aindilis`  sweet
00:44 owen       kados, I put that 'similar items' markup into opac-detail.tmpl and I'm not getting anything
00:45 kados      owen: yea, I'll have a look at that tonight
00:45 kados      sorry, it was working  i swear :-)
00:45 aindilis`  thanks guys
01:26 aindilis`  Is there a module for requesting books?
01:26 aindilis`  Say someone sees that the specialty library is missing a relevant book.
01:27 owen       Yes, suggestions
01:27 owen       You should be able to enable that for the opac in system preferences
01:30 aindilis`  thanks
09:11 yesan      hi, is there anyone out there?
09:11 yesan      i got to seek someone
09:11 yesan      to help me
09:12 yesan      masonj, r u there?
09:12 masonj     hi yesan
09:12 yesan      yes, masonj
09:12 masonj     how is life for you?
09:14 yesan      Hello, MasonJ
09:14 yesan      I can't see the chatline display
09:15 yesan      how are u there?
09:15 masonj     pretty good, the weather is nice :)
09:15 yesan      Yes. I have finally been able to install koha on Blue host.com
09:16 yesan      while i try to add record, it gives error. what could have been the reason for?
09:16 yesan      says, internal error 500
09:17 yesan      HTTP 500 - Internal server error
09:17 yesan      HTTP 500 - Internal server error
09:17 yesan      hi, masonj do u hear me?
09:17 masonj     you need to look in your error log, to find the error
09:17 yesan      how do i find the error log.
09:18 masonj     look in your koha.conf file, for a line like this...
09:18 masonj      kohalogdir=/koha/log
09:19 yesan      ok,
09:19 yesan      yes, i am trying to figure out the error?
09:19 masonj     ah, actually look i your koha apache config file
09:20 masonj     for a line like..
09:20 masonj      ErrorLog /nzkoha/log/koha-error_log
09:22 masonj     then try somthing like 'tail -f /nzkoha/log/koha-error_log' while you add the record again
09:23 yesan      ok
09:29 yesan       kohalogdir=/koha/log
09:29 yesan      i don't find any error recorded in this directory
09:33 yesan      masonj
09:33 yesan      hi, r u arround?
09:34 masonj     back in 5..
09:35 yesan      thank u
09:36 yesan      i shall wait 4 u
09:36 masonj     ok, back
09:37 masonj     so what does your 'ErrorLog' line in yr apache config say?
09:37 yesan      i don't see any error file at all
09:38 yesan      koha.conf file has
09:38 yesan      kohalogdir=/jlcopaco/koha/log
09:38 masonj     how bout your koha-httpd.conf   file?
09:39 yesan      let look 4
09:39 masonj     look for 'ErrorLog'  line in there...
09:42 yesan      kohalogdir=/home/jlcopaco/koha/log
09:43 masonj     hmm, that looks like yr koha.conf file
09:44 masonj     look for your koha apache config file , its called 'koha-httpd.conf' by default
09:44 yesan      yes
09:47 masonj     there should be an apache <VirtualHost> block in the file, like this example...
09:47 masonj     .
09:47 masonj     # KOHA's INTRANET Configuration
09:47 masonj     <VirtualHost 11.22.33.44:80>
09:47 masonj        ServerAdmin webmaster@metavore.com
09:47 masonj        DocumentRoot /nzkoha/intranet/htdocs
09:47 masonj        ServerName koha.dev.kohalibrary.com
09:47 masonj        DirectoryIndex index.html
09:47 masonj        ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/koha/ "/nzkoha/intranet/cgi-bin/"
09:47 masonj        ScriptAlias /index.html '/nzkoha/intranet/cgi-bin/mainpage.pl'
09:47 masonj        ErrorLog /nzkoha/log/koha.staff-error_log
09:47 yesan      where do i find
09:49 masonj     that depends on how bluehost/someone/you set  your apache up :)
09:50 yesan      ok
09:50 yesan      i got to ask my friend who did install koha 4 m3
09:50 yesan      me
09:51 masonj     yep, thats were the error log is set
09:53 masonj     you could try searching your home directory for the file, like this...
09:54 masonj     cd; grep -rl 'ErrorLog' ./*
10:00 yesan      i shall try once again
10:02 yesan      ./Koha/sources/yaz-3.0.14/doc/frontend.xml
10:02 yesan      ./Koha/sources/yaz-3.0.14/doc/server.invocation.html
10:02 yesan      grep: ./access-logs: No such file or directory
10:02 yesan      ./etc/koha-httpd.conf
10:02 yesan      ./intranet/scripts/misc/installer-lite.pl
10:02 yesan      ./koha/intranet/scripts/misc/installer-lite.pl
10:02 yesan      ./koha-2.2.9/Install.pm
10:02 yesan      ./koha-2.2.9/Hints
10:02 yesan      ./koha-2.2.9/scripts/misc/installer-lite.pl
10:02 yesan      masonj
10:03 yesan      ./Koha/sources/yaz-3.0.14/doc/frontend.xml
10:03 yesan      ./Koha/sources/yaz-3.0.14/doc/server.invocation.html
10:03 yesan      grep: ./access-logs: No such file or directory
10:03 yesan      ./etc/koha-httpd.conf
10:03 yesan      ./intranet/scripts/misc/installer-lite.pl
10:03 yesan      ./koha/intranet/scripts/misc/installer-lite.pl
10:03 yesan      ./koha-2.2.9/Install.pm
10:03 yesan      ./koha-2.2.9/Hints
10:03 yesan      ./koha-2.2.9/scripts/misc/installer-lite.pl
10:03 masonj     ./etc/koha-httpd.conf  <- looks like it
10:03 yesan      ok, i shall try
10:03 yesan      htat
10:03 yesan      that
10:04 masonj     sure, have a look at the ErrorLog  line
10:04 yesan      ErrorLog /home/jlcopaco/log/koha-error_log
10:05 yesan      masonj
10:05 masonj     cool
10:05 masonj     tail -f /home/jlcopaco/log/koha-error_log
10:05 yesan      in the above dir doesn't have anything.
10:06 masonj     ls -l /home/jlcopaco/log/koha-error_log
10:06 masonj     no file exists?
10:07 yesan       tail -f /home/jlcopaco/log/koha-error_log
10:07 yesan      tail: cannot open `/home/jlcopaco/log/koha-error_log' for reading: No such file or directory
10:07 yesan      tail: no files remaining
10:07 yesan      [jlcopaco@box341 ~]$ ls -l /home/jlcopaco/log/koha-error_log
10:07 yesan      ls: /home/jlcopaco/log/koha-error_log: No such file or directory
10:07 yesan      [jlcopaco@box341 ~]$ tail -f /home/jlcopaco/log/koha-error_log
10:07 yesan      tail: cannot open `/home/jlcopaco/log/koha-error_log' for reading: No such file or directory
10:07 yesan      tail: no files remaining
10:08 yesan      masonj, did u see the above lines
10:09 masonj     ls /home/jlcopaco/log
10:09 masonj     does the log directory exist ?
10:09 yesan      yes, dir exist. but no content/files in it
10:10 yesan      masonj
10:10 yesan      r u there?
10:11 masonj     uhuh
10:11 yesan      http://www.jlcopac.org/intranet
10:11 yesan      visit the above page
10:12 yesan      pass/username: saiacs
10:12 yesan      masonj, did u get it?
10:12 masonj     yes
10:13 yesan      http://pastebin.ca/799126
10:14 yesan      the above has content of koha-httpd.conf
10:14 yesan      masonj,
10:14 masonj     ta
10:14 yesan      did you get this also
10:14 masonj     yes
10:14 yesan      ta?
10:14 masonj     ta = thanks
10:14 yesan      good
10:15 yesan      am giving toooooooooo much work?
10:15 yesan      :)
10:15 yesan      am I? :)
10:16 yesan      shall come back after 5 minutes? i got to go for a short meeting.
10:16 yesan      with your permission
10:16 yesan      whiel you figure out what is wrong with it?
10:16 masonj     yes , thats fine :)
10:50 yesan      yes. Masonj
10:50 yesan      were u able to find the problem?
10:53 masonj     heya
10:53 masonj     hmm, not really
10:54 masonj     you need to sort out the apache looging first,
10:56 masonj     and confirm with your friend whether that koha-httpd.conf file is *really* the conf file that your apache is using, or another one
10:56 yesan      yes
10:56 masonj     without the logging going, its pretty hard to debug
10:57 masonj     could be a file permission issue too...
10:57 masonj     can the apache user write to your log dir? etc..
10:58 masonj     what are the perms on your log dir..
10:59 yesan      write, read
10:59 yesan      modify