Time Nick Message 14:52 thd kados: are you about? 14:52 kados hi thd 14:55 thd kados: I have this error even when the file is set to world readable 14:55 thd (13)Permission denied: /usr/local/lib/cgi-bin/.htaccess pcfg_openfile: unable to check htaccess file, ensure it is readable 14:56 kados maybe do a chown www-data ? 14:56 kados (apache user 14:56 thd that was the first thing I did 14:56 kados ) 14:56 kados weird 14:57 thd the installer did not install that file either. I did it manually 14:58 thd perhaps the file is being read but the error is reported for another reason 15:05 kados bbiab 15:35 thd kados: are you at the office? 16:15 thd kados: are you at the office? 17:12 thd kados: is it a bit yet? 20:04 owen chris around? 20:05 kados usually is by now 20:07 kados something must have come up, his calendar is clear 00:48 kados thd`: you around? 00:49 kados nope 00:49 thd` kados: yes 00:53 kados :) 01:41 fbcit-1 gmcharlt: you around? 01:42 kados unlikely, he just got back from a long road trip 01:42 kados but I let him know you'dbe looking for him tomorrow 01:42 kados and he's planning on working on the instlaler tomorrow afternoon 01:43 fbcit-1 did you see my message? 01:43 kados fbcit-1: there were, you may have noticed, some db changes pushed up today 01:43 kados yea 01:44 fbcit-1 it appears that there are more files/branches in the repo dir structure than the original makefile was accounting for... 01:44 kados *nod* 01:45 kados yea, it's confusing 01:45 kados lemme check my schedule, I'll see if I'll be around tomorrow 01:45 fbcit-1 ie. some templates go to the cgi-bin others to the perl5 library dir? 01:45 kados yea, I've no idea what's up with the perl5 library dir 01:46 kados crappy day for me tomorrow unfortunately 01:46 fbcit-1 so I wondered if we needed to get some consistancy in it all. 01:46 kados I won't be around until after 6 at best 01:46 kados yea, we definitely need consistancy 01:46 fbcit-1 my new code is much more scalable 01:46 kados what's happened is that every koha user tends to have their own way to install it :-) 01:46 kados it's very flexible, and that's part of the trouble 01:46 kados what we need to do is establish a set of sane default conventions 01:47 fbcit-1 the 'glob'ing in the original was not very flexable 01:48 fbcit-1 6 as in 1800, right? 01:49 fbcit-1 I'll make up a patch and send a copy to galen tomorrow near lunch time. 01:50 fbcit-1 several changes that chris made need to be added to it also. 01:52 kados w00t 01:52 kados fbcit-1++ 01:52 kados watch out for paul's commits 01:53 kados he finally got rid of misc/zeb* 01:53 kados and moved some stuff into etc/ 01:53 kados which I did approve this afternoon 01:53 fbcit-1 yea, the dir structure needs/needed cleaning up badly 01:53 kados so it might cause some conflicts with your stuff ... might wanna be careful there 01:53 kados yea, it definitely needs further work 01:53 kados I think we need a meeting to hash it all out 01:54 kados galen's thinking maybe a meeting on Tue or Wed 01:54 kados man, I've got a crappy week 01:54 fbcit-1 my changes will allow fewer changes in makefile in the future as the dir structure changes. 01:54 kados I think I could swing an afternoon mtg tomorrow 01:54 fbcit-1 afternoon is better for me 01:54 kados cool 01:55 kados fewer_changes++ 01:55 kados did you also handle the marcflavour and language issues? 01:55 fbcit-1 no, we can incorporate chris' changes to do that I think. 01:55 kados cool 01:56 fbcit-1 I simply crawl the dir tree from the base and send files to where they go via regex conditionals. 01:58 fbcit-1 if you add another branch/file to the tree, makefile will simply crawl out to it and install it accordingly. 01:59 thd kados: I am back from laundry 01:59 kados thd: I see :-) 01:59 kados fbcit-1: nice 02:00 fbcit-1 kados: any particular time for the meeting tomorrow? 02:01 kados hmmm, well tomorrow I don't think I can swing it unless it's late afternoon 02:01 kados like 6pm 02:01 kados and I'm not sure galen can make that 02:01 kados but tuesday afternoon I could probably swing 02:01 fbcit-1 tuesday after 1pm is fine by me... 02:02 thd I am about to send a message to the koha-devel list on the issues. 02:02 kados hehe 02:02 kados everyone's working on the installer 02:03 fbcit-1 thd too... :-) 02:03 thd :) 02:42 fbcit-1 kados: I notice that an incorrect patch I submitted was committed. I had send a corrected version to chris, but it must have been dropped. 02:43 fbcit-1 *sent 02:45 fbcit-1 I'll send up the correct version again tomorrow. 04:29 thd kados: are you still there? 04:29 masonj_ thd; looks like hes off 04:30 thd masonj_: how can you tell? 04:30 masonj_ wel, josh usually has this jabber on, when hes on :) 04:31 thd :) 04:31 masonj_ hows things going over there? 04:33 thd masonj_: reasonably well as long as Koha 3.0 is ready yesterday 04:54 masonj_ great work on the new frameworks too thd, they are looking really complete 04:54 masonj_ speshly the 952$'s 04:58 thd masonj_: the default MARC 21 bibliographic framework quadrupled in size after I edited it early last year. 04:59 thd masonj_: I have been allowed to make holdings a little closer to standard holdings for 3.0. 05:02 thd masonj_: many automation systems do not do much for standard holdings but there are multiple holdings fields in MARC 21 bibliographic and even a separate MARC 21 holdings format. 05:04 thd masonj_: my notes about the correlation have been moved from comments in the SQL installation file to a separate directory in misc. 05:04 masonj_ cool, ill have a read next time im there 05:08 thd masonj_: The worst document I ever wrote explains a little better complete with some errors no one ever noticed, http://www.kohadocs.org/holdings.html . 05:09 thd masonj_: I have an almost complete much improved revised text but Stephen no longer had time to edit Koha documentation. 05:10 thd masonj_: the revised text suggests workarounds for Koha holdings problems more completely. 05:10 masonj_ hmm, how bout the koha wiki? http://wiki.koha.org 05:13 thd masonj_: I could put it there, although, I dislike putting anything other than the briefest documents there because I find the default Docuwiki stylesheet has many readability problems. 05:16 thd masonj_: I spent weeks on a beautiful template and stylesheet but kados did not give me a chance to prove that some wiki authentication problems people had when he was testing had nothing to do with Docuwiki template or stylesheet changes. 05:18 thd masonj_: you can see that work at http://kohaldwiki.agogme.com/ . 06:48 masonj aww,