Time Nick Message 10:39 hdl And did not add it to ccl.properties 10:39 hdl looking at zebra query, @attr 4=1 appears when I didnot ask for it. 10:37 hdl I tried with s=pw but it would not answer the way I want 10:34 hdl Is there a ccl atribute or a pqf attribute I should remove ? 10:34 hdl You told me it would be so. But it seems it is not. 10:33 hdl Is there a way to search on wordlist by default ? 10:33 hdl Is this the expected behaviour ? 10:33 hdl But the expression : "particules test" 10:33 hdl It searched not a wordlist "particules" "test". 10:32 hdl For instance, I searched particules test 10:32 hdl When searching kw, things are queried as if it was phrase. 10:31 hdl Some questions though. 10:31 hdl You work on searches and it is obvious it works better. 10:30 hdl kados, Joshua : hi. 08:51 [K] *** join #koha@FreeNode: phasefx n=phasefx@68-190-35-14.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com 08:47 JYL57 it would be a nice christmas gift ! ;-) 08:42 chris and kados is working hard on fixing the search, so im hopeful we can release soon 08:41 chris i sent all my patches i did on the installer to galen who is going to test and fix 08:41 chris yep i think once this installer is fixed, very close now, and search is fixed then release time 08:40 paul so we just lack a release now :-\ 08:39 chris i really like how you can define the indexes, thats really neat, you guys did a great job there 08:38 chris great minds think alike :) 08:38 chris heh 08:38 chris but i think it will be much faster than 2.2 08:38 paul i'm sure it will be OK (and much faster than for 2.2) 08:38 chris yep 08:38 paul the reindexing will be quite long I bet... 08:38 chris so i will let you know what performance i get 08:37 chris i plan to do some testing with one that is 148472 items 08:37 paul as they can't install zebra (their techie guys refuses if I have understood well) 08:37 paul but ENSMP, that is more than 100 000 items wide will move to 3.0 NZ soon 08:36 chris :) 08:36 paul same answer 08:36 chris oh = or (cant type) 08:36 paul i have only 1 and it's 30 000 items 08:36 chris oh have tested 08:36 paul live ? 08:36 chris paul: whats the biggest library you have running nozebra? 08:31 hdl yes 08:30 chris ahh, 5=1 is the truncation? 08:30 chris at least i know it can be done :) 08:29 hdl ccl.properties in /etc contains 5=1 for some attributes 08:29 chris cool 08:29 paul 2008 08:29 paul yep 08:29 chris paul: you use mandriva? 08:26 chris cool paul 08:26 chris ahhh 08:26 hdl It was an unfortunate copy/paste on ccl.properties which added 5=1 to author 08:25 hdl IT was not stemming. 08:25 paul hello chris. 08:25 chris and hi paul and jyl57 :) 08:24 chris so hopefully the search is working better and did you see that you can turn the stemming/left truncation off in system preferences? 08:23 chris some patches from joshua should have come through now 08:23 chris hi hdl 08:09 hdl hi$ 08:08 js hi JYL57 08:08 JYL57 hi koha world, paul, hdl around ?! 23:06 [K] *** join #koha@FreeNode: rangi n=chris@203-118-134-114.netspace.net.nz 23:01 [K] *** join #koha@FreeNode: ru55el n=russel@203-118-134-114.netspace.net.nz 23:00 [K] *** join #koha@FreeNode: rangi n=chris@203-118-134-114.netspace.net.nz 21:56 kados sounds like a bug 21:56 kados hmmm 21:54 owen When I log in to the OPAC as another user (a superlibrarian, by the way), I see my suggestions and the one I submitted as the other user 21:54 owen I log in as one user to add a purchase suggestion. When I submit the form the page reloads and I'm told there are no purchase suggestions (instead of showing me mine) 21:37 chris heh 21:35 owen I was pointing to opac-logout.pl instead of opac-main.pl. Silly me :) 21:32 owen Oh, there it is http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=Koha;a=commit;h=27d85a6a5a1e15046d9e083541eb04e00d5ac45d 21:31 owen I thought I saw a commit related to logouts recently, but now I can't put my finger on it 21:29 kados can't log out of the opac sounds like a bug 21:29 kados yea, exactly 21:29 owen Hi kados. So you create a dummy account or something? 21:28 kados ie, they are still linked to an account 21:28 kados it's the borrower that you want the anonoymous suggestions set to 21:26 owen What is an anonymous borrowernumber? 21:26 owen Anyone here know how anonymous suggestions work? The description says "Set to anonymous borrowernumber to enable Anonymous suggestions" 21:20 owen Hmmm... can't log out of the OPAC 19:42 martinmorris i think so 19:42 chris but its probably best to play with a fresh 3.0 first 19:42 chris http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=22_to_30 19:42 chris and copy it somewhere and then after doing the make install 19:41 chris but if you wanted to, you could take a copy of your 2.2 database 19:41 martinmorris cheers :) 19:41 chris i wouldnt :) 19:39 martinmorris one last question, i assume i don't play with this on a machine which already runs koha 2.2 happily? 19:38 martinmorris thanks for your patience 19:38 fbcit though one might think the two are eq... 19:38 martinmorris ah, got you :) 19:38 fbcit what it is doing wrong does not equate to "doesn't work"... :-) 19:38 chris its wrong, but it works :) 19:37 martinmorris :) 19:37 martinmorris he just said it was the cgi-bin bit it was doing wrong, am I being a bit blonde? 19:37 fbcit right 19:36 martinmorris including the cgi-bin bit? 19:35 fbcit actually, as chris mentioned, the installer does "work" in its present state. 19:32 martinmorris what about the cgi-bin copy problems at the make install stage? 19:31 fbcit martinmorris: take a look @ README.txt 19:31 chris then its just setting up zebra after that 19:30 chris and the web installer does the rest 19:29 chris hit the staff site in your browser (after restarting apache) 19:29 chris and koha-conf.xml 19:29 chris edit koha-httpd.conf 19:29 chris set up your db, and a user and password 19:29 chris make install 19:29 chris make 19:29 chris basically you perl Makefile.PL 19:28 chris nope no good page there 19:27 chris lemme just check the wiki 19:23 martinmorris but in the meantime i'm not going to be able to install this easily without asking lots of questions i take it? :) 19:19 martinmorris need to learn more about that 19:19 martinmorris OK 19:19 chris then its a z3950 server 19:19 martinmorris marvellous 19:19 chris yep, if you are running zebra 19:18 martinmorris will there be a z39.50 server included? 19:18 martinmorris ok 19:18 chris ive just sent all my patches to galen who is gonna be taking over fixing the installer 19:18 chris that should be fixed soon 19:18 martinmorris yep 19:18 chris on the make 19:18 chris cgi-bin 19:17 chris yeah thats the one it does wrong 19:17 martinmorris mine was trying to copy stuff to /usr/local/lib/cgi-bin/koha 19:17 chris i think its the cgi-bin its doing wrong 19:16 chris in its current version it might 19:16 fbcit PREFIX/share.... 19:16 ryan but it still installs modules to /usr/local/share... ? 19:16 chris which works the way people expect PREFIX to do :) 19:15 chris what i have done is change it to INSTALL_BASE 19:15 chris prefix has worked for a while 19:15 chris and making it easier to get the right record.abs file for zebra (unimarc or marc21) 19:15 ryan chris: so PREFIX is working now ? 19:14 chris ie more standard 19:14 chris what i have been doing, is making it so nothing is copied until make install 19:14 chris currently the make will try to copy things 19:14 chris if you want 19:14 chris perl Makefile.pl PREFIX=/somewhere 19:14 martinmorris :) 19:14 chris :) 19:14 chris what i have been working on is making it work better 19:13 chris zoom 19:13 chris there is a patch from slef waiting for the RM to check which fixes the check for the 19:13 martinmorris perl Makefile.PL -> make -> make install? 19:13 martinmorris fair enough 19:12 chris nope none of my patches have made it through yet 19:12 martinmorris i checked out my copy last night, do i need to check it out again? 19:12 chris yeah it works now 19:11 martinmorris so i'm not going to be able to install it that easily then? 19:11 ryan it'll be cleaned up by then 19:11 ryan no - we should have a developer's release out in the next couple weeks 19:10 martinmorris ah OK, and i take it there's no notes or anything like that at this stage? 19:10 ryan he should be back shortly 19:10 ryan i know chris has done some work on it and will know its state better 19:10 ryan martinmorris: the installer is currently being revised... 19:06 martinmorris and i'm assumign it's the standard perl Makefile.PL in the kohaclone directory? 19:01 ryan np 19:01 martinmorris will do, cheers 19:01 ryan and it should be fine. 19:01 ryan install the latest (1.20) zoom 19:01 martinmorris fair enough, thanks ryan 19:01 ryan and remove that check. 19:01 ryan martinmorris: for now I would edit Makefile.PL 18:59 martinmorris if anyone can advise i'd be grateful ta :) 18:58 martinmorris had installed Net-Z3950-ZOOM-1.16 (and the guy who replied confirmed that) but when i run perl Makefile.PL it still complains i haven't installed it 18:57 martinmorris hi i was asking last night about getting hold of ZOOM 1.16 (i'm playing with koha 3.0) 18:16 ryan was working for me a couple days ago 18:16 ryan huh 18:14 owen ...but since I'm not getting logged in to the correct branch, I can't even find patrons registered at my own branch :( 18:11 owen ah, of course 18:10 ryan owen: you can only see patrons registered at your branch 17:57 owen Logged in as a non-superlibrarian, I'm not able to search patrons 17:29 hdl But not others. 17:29 hdl superlibrarian has the right to choose any branch. 17:29 hdl owen : Then it is OK. 17:26 owen Yes 17:25 hdl Are you superlibrarian ? 17:25 owen I'm seeing the whole list 17:24 hdl branch list is a single item list. 17:24 hdl owen : when IndependantBranches is on, patrons homebranch is the same as librarians' one. 17:11 paul ah, ok 17:11 paul steam ship ? 17:10 owen paul, it must be coming by steam ship 17:03 paul owen : mail in your mailbox, with some more investigations about detail.tmpl 16:57 owen hdl: should a librarian be able to choose the patron's home branch if IndependentBranches is turned on? 16:48 chris i dont know how to either, but i think we should get joshua to do a patch so that its controlled by a syspref then you can just switch that off 16:47 hdl Jeandeau and Jean as results. 16:47 hdl I got : 16:46 hdl here is my query :au,phr: "Jean" and (mt:OUVR ) and ( homebranch:CPPM) 16:46 atz i haven't looked at the searching code 16:45 hdl Can't you tell me what to do to disable wider scope of results ? 16:44 chris on by default, and we can switch it off for libraries that want precision 16:44 chris i think a system preference is the way to go then 16:43 chris right 16:43 hdl atz, chris : we have research institutions as clients and they require that asking for an author would not bring up 10s of others. 16:42 atz but I can see why precision would be important in a research environment 16:42 atz kids frequently can't correctly spell or remember all of authors' names 16:41 atz hdl: i know that K-12 school libraries will appreciate a more robust return set 16:40 chris then the library could chose the default behaviour it wants 16:40 atz (quoted string) 16:40 atz and you could force it off with search by "jean"... 16:39 chris implicit truncation on or off 16:39 chris could easily be a syspref though eh? 16:38 atz exact matches will be recognized and returned w/ priority 16:38 atz i'm not sure about that. If you have adequate relevance ranking, then it does not hurt to use implicit truncation. 16:37 hdl We have a simple facility to add it : * 16:37 hdl even keyword should not have implicit truncation. 16:37 hdl yes 16:36 atz hdl: you mean on an author query, i.e. not by keyword? 16:35 hdl Is this a requirement for you ? 16:35 hdl For us when you query Jean, unless you query Jean*, you should not get any author like jeanmaire Jeanine Jeaneune 16:33 hdl kados : search adds implicit left truncation. This is not considered as a feature. 16:23 hdl line 172 16:23 hdl And user have a branch and is not superlibrarian. 16:23 hdl IndependantBranches 16:23 hdl $onlymine is set when 16:22 hdl see neworderempty.pl 16:20 owen Sorry hdl, I don't understand 16:19 hdl C4::Context->userenv->{flag} >0... After a getuserandtemplate. 16:18 hdl user flag is >0 16:17 owen Do we need to add $template->param( IS_superlibrairan => 1 ); to Auth.pm? 16:16 owen Easy enough to do a check for AutoLocation and IndependentBranches, but how to tell if the user is a superlibrarian? 16:15 hdl aye you're right owen. (Unless user is superlibrarian... he should not be able to switch branches) 16:02 owen So if IndependentBranches is turned on, we should hide all interface elements related to switching branches 16:00 hdl yes 15:56 owen If IndependentBranches is turned on, a librarian should not be able to log in to anything but their home branch (as specified in their patron record)? 15:47 hdl owen : I have not touched members pages for some time 15:29 owen hdl: it looks like we lost "Alternate Contact" from member entry somewhere along the way? 15:27 atz that's true. sometimes all you need is for somebody knowledgeable to say "that's normal." 15:26 hdl And it is quite reassuring. Some questions are quickly answered. 15:25 hdl :) 15:23 atz it's funny to see people jump in w/ a problem and jump out on the same screen 15:22 JYL57 have a nice day 15:21 JYL57 ok, thanks for advise, have to go now leaving my REPAIR working and will check it tonight... 15:19 hdl Joshua did good job on inline documentation 15:19 hdl You should first read it. 15:19 hdl may need customisation. 15:19 JYL57 any prerequisite before using this script ?! 15:18 hdl build_marcword in misc is there for that. 15:17 JYL57 hum, how to do that ? do you have sample code ?! 15:16 hdl JYL57: you had better drop the table and recreate it from a script which will use your database. 15:16 JYL57 ok, I need advice hdl, would the option USE_FRM be quicker ?! 15:15 hdl marc_word is used in rel 2_2 in order to index data 15:15 JYL57 yes, I'm trying to repair marc_word... 15:15 owen On the other hand, it's better than hard-coding text-transformation that isn't appropriate for all customers. 15:15 hdl owen : if you have to modify one js each time for your customer... It will soon be a mess for you to manage devs 15:13 hdl G 15:13 hdl JYL57: it can be VERY LON 15:13 ryan hdl: I maybe agree, but i also don't like two or more sytemprefs for handling name casing 15:12 owen JYL57: Are you repairing marc_word? 15:12 owen hdl: but more easily customized to the needs of a particular library 15:12 JYL57 some mysql expert around ?! how long could a REPAIR TABLE normally go ?! 15:11 hdl ryan : I hate when all is done in Javascript. This means not handy sustainable code. 15:10 Brooke okay, back to trying to find a jorb. 15:10 JYL57 could someone explain me the use and importance of table marc_word ?! 15:09 JYL57 hello koha 15:08 ryan javascript would be a better way maybe 15:08 ryan but i say delete it. 15:08 ryan if extra parsing was worth it 15:07 ryan or smthg 15:07 ryan uc(lastname) ucfirst(firstname) 15:07 ryan the syspref could be a perlish expression for name handling: 15:05 owen Wouldn't that mess up an odd first name like "DuPage" ? 15:05 owen Why is memberentry doing this: $data{'firstname'}=ucfirst(lc $data{'firstname'}); ? 15:03 hdl Then it should be added to systempreferences.sql in install. Maybe in updatedatabase too... depending on Joshua's opinion. 15:01 owen There's a check for "uppercasesurnames" in memberentrygen.tmpl, but I don't see that in system preferences 15:01 hdl hi 15:01 Brooke bonjour henri 15:01 owen Hi hdl 15:01 hdl hdl yes 15:01 Brooke paul's usually away when he _ 15:00 owen paul_ or hdl around? 15:00 Brooke *nod* 15:00 owen Presumably on koha.org 15:00 Brooke do you know where they'll post the dev release? 15:00 Brooke *nod* 15:00 owen But I don't know about final release. 14:59 Brooke i did the whole I'm just guessing routine, but I've seen it with my own beady eyes 14:59 owen A developer's release should be coming out soon, I think. 14:59 Brooke exactly! 14:59 owen Not soon enough ;) 14:59 Brooke folks just asked me and I was kinda like, uh soon. :) 14:59 Brooke do you know when 3.0 is due out? 14:59 Brooke hi owen :) 14:58 owen Hi Brooke 14:55 Brooke howdy 13:12 kados (this morning I have a meeting :/)) 13:12 kados hdl: I plan to work on the rest of the tasks this afternoon 13:09 hdl kados : ok. send it to me. 12:42 fbcit kados: talked with chris last evening and it looks like he has the installer about wrapped up for now. 12:40 kados :-) 12:40 kados fbcit: 12:40 kados oops 12:40 kados morning fb 12:37 fbcit g'morning kados 12:28 kados hdl: still to do: limits, mc-*, and repairing facets 12:28 kados (and fuzzy operator handling) 12:27 kados hdl: I've fixed simple searching, and boolean searching, truncation, field weighting, stemming and relevance 12:27 kados hdl: I can send you the patches I've done 12:27 kados hdl: you around?