Time  Nick     Message
08:27 paul     some patches in your mailbox
08:27 paul_    chris around ?
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21:03 atz      whatever process you're running as doesn't have permissions to edit the files of the user you installed as
21:03 atz      JeremyF: permissions
20:29 JeremyF  does anyone have any ideas why the latest version of koha, that i just setup on a windows machine, would not be letting me input users?
20:07 gmcharlt normalizing, rather
20:06 gmcharlt owen: yes, and also for normalization it for various searching purposes
20:06 gmcharlt please file a bug report so that I remember to check this specific place
20:06 owen     So there will be a more "centralized" solution for getting a clean isbn into the template where it's needed?
20:05 gmcharlt general issue with ISBN normalization that I'm hoping to clean up in a few days
20:05 gmcharlt ah, right
20:05 owen     I'm seeing ISBNs with |, (pbk.), and more
20:05 gmcharlt what cases are missing?
20:04 owen     But just taking out hyphens doesn't take care of all cases
20:04 owen     It's supposed to be formatting isbns so that they can be passed to Amazon to grab book covers, reviews, etc.
20:04 gmcharlt should be, yes
20:04 owen     And that's all it does?
20:03 gmcharlt owen: get rid of all hyphens
20:02 owen     Can someone better at regexes than me explain this: $dat->{'amazonisbn'} =~ s|-||g;
19:50 chris    and a new one is started
19:49 chris    and updatedatabase.pl exists while we work on the next release, and then becomes the script to upgrade to that release
19:49 chris    what we will have is scripts to upgrade from release to release
19:49 chris    heh
19:42 chris    so a fresh install shouldnt use it
19:41 chris    what the updatedatbase.pl script allows us to do is to not have to keep doing a fresh install everytime someone changes something in the db
19:39 chris    and a new updatedatabase.pl will be started .. which will become the update3.0.0to3.0.1.pl script when 3.0.1 is out
19:39 chris    fbcit: updatedatabase.pl will keep getting bigger until we release 3.0 ..and then it will be merged into the update22to30 script
19:37 chris    sorry an insert
19:37 chris    yeah, ... well and insert
19:37 owen     Looking at updatedatabase.pl, if I want to change the way the YUI pref is stored, I have to add a section that does an "UPDATE `systempreferences` ..." ?
19:37 chris    it rolls off
19:36 fbcit    chris: curiosity... does updatedatabase.pl just keep becoming bigger? or does the *old* stuff roll off at some point?
19:36 chris    cool
19:36 owen     Yes
19:35 chris    make sense?
19:35 chris    and updatedatabase.pl will let all of us who have koha 3's running upgrade
19:35 chris    the first gets in there for all new installs
19:35 chris    installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl
19:34 chris    and
19:34 chris     installer/data/mysql/en/mandatory/sysprefs.sql
19:33 chris    and then paul will port it to french .. and fbcit will port it to the postgres bits :-)
19:33 chris    and then in updatedatabase.pl
19:33 chris    yep 2 places, in the sysprefs.sql
19:32 owen     Are we still using updatedatabase?
19:32 owen     I'm pretty clear on that process, I guess, except for getting it into the default database setup.
19:28 chris    whack it in bugzilla :)
19:27 chris    that you pass to the template
19:27 chris    just another syspref
19:27 chris    wouldnt be hard
19:27 chris    they are either on or off
19:26 chris    not currently no
19:26 owen     Yeah
19:26 chris    just  in the opac?
19:26 owen     Is there a way to turn off item-level holds in the OPAC?
18:26 gmcharlt is producing a non-empty result
18:26 gmcharlt so I suggest making sure that the ->as_xml() call that is producing the XML to store in marcxml
18:26 gmcharlt potentially there could be an issue where the marc record was not parsed (or not parseable)
18:25 gmcharlt fbcit: bilbioitems.marcxml should not be null
18:18 fbcit    which is correct? the .mrc or the db schema?
18:17 fbcit    biblioitems.marcxml is set NOT NULL, but when attempting to import some marc data kados sent me, the db complains because the "marcxml" field is being populated with nulls...
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17:09 paul     owen : done, it works (although my dsl is really poor today, you may have problems to test)
17:09 paul     back...
17:07 owen     paul_, any luck?
16:28 owen     My change fixes it on my system, so I'm hopeful for yours
16:27 owen     The example I was looking at had no hidden subfields in the initial state. I thought it had something to do with /mandatory/ fields
16:27 paul     yep
16:27 owen     It has something to do with tags which have some subfields hidden in their initial state
16:27 owen     I see now that the problem /was/ showing up on my system, but I wasn't looking at the right tag in order to see it
16:22 paul     i'll let you know when it's done
16:22 paul     yep
16:22 owen     paul, will you test on i15.bureau.paulpoulain.com first?
16:20 hdl      display of those who were not displayed and hide the others.
16:19 hdl      I thought it just did the same as toggle :
16:19 owen     hdl, why don't you think it will fix it?
16:17 paul     hdl : it worked previously
16:15 paul     ok, thanks i'll do that immediatly
16:14 owen     ...which was supposed to be an improvement because of its compactness. I'm not sure why it's working for me but not you, but simpler to change it back.
16:14 owen     to this: $(divs[i]).toggle();
16:13 owen                 }
16:13 owen                     divs[i].style.display = 'block';
16:13 owen                 } else {
16:13 owen                     divs[i].style.display = 'none';
16:13 owen                 if (divs[i].style.display == 'block') {
16:13 owen     In function Expandfield(), I changed this:
16:13 owen     paul, I'll roll back the change that caused your problem, but the fix is easy if you want to make it manually to those who are in production
15:59 fbcit    tnx
15:59 gmcharlt fbcit: C4/ClassSource.pm
15:57 fbcit    'grep' did not.... :)
15:57 fbcit    I thought someone might know..
15:57 fbcit    gmcharlt: it is not in Biblio.pm and I cannot seem to locate where it is....
15:57 paul     you should understand the problem
15:56 fbcit    gmcharlt: somewhere this select is issued: SELECT * FROM `class_sources` WHERE cn_source = $1...
15:56 paul     click on "Titre et mention de responsabilité"
15:56 paul     look at 200 field
15:56 paul     edit 1st biblio (from chaos to covenant)
15:56 paul     search chaos
15:56 gmcharlt fbcit: what's the question?
15:56 paul     http://i15.bureau.paulpoulain.com/cgi-bin/koha/mainpage.pl login abel / abel
15:55 owen     Sorry, if you /give/ me access to a test system...
15:55 owen     I have taken a look, but I cannot reproduce it on my system. If you have me access to a test system which showed the error, I could try to diagnose from there.
15:54 paul     (+ 3 sites testing for a migration asap)
15:54 paul     (we have 2 sites in production with koha 3 and it's really a pain to catalogate atm)
15:53 paul     could you take a look pls ?
15:53 paul     owen : a bug that is urgent to fix : http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1513
15:49 fbcit    who can answer a question about bulkmarcimport.pl?
15:47 fbcit    kados: ping
15:38 paul     ok
15:38 owen     But paul, if there are fields missing, please add them. I didn't intentionally remove anything
15:37 paul     ok, then i let this for you
15:37 owen     I'm working on the same issue in the OPAC, so that should help me sort it out.
15:36 owen     grid.
15:36 owen     A TMPL_IF to switch the layout gride
15:35 paul     do you know how you'll do that ?
15:35 owen     Yes, paul, the detail page needs a change to better manage the columns in case of Amazon content being enabled/disabled
15:32 paul     + the normal view is still really strange, with 2 columns with a large empty space in the middle.
15:31 paul     I had added some fields from biblioitems in detail.pl a few weeks ago. The move to yui made them disappear. Can I reintroduce them in detail.pl
15:31 paul     owen around ?
15:27 paul     owen will say that it's not new features, it's just relooking. except it's broken today !
15:19 gmcharlt then freeze except for bugfixes soon
15:19 gmcharlt we should collectively figure out what features (hopefully not too many) must be present for 3.0 beta
15:18 gmcharlt yeah, I guess the OPAC is kind of important :)
15:16 paul_    s/wa/we/
15:16 paul_    and we were not warned at all of those changes. Worst, kados spoke of a beta release this week. which wa can't obviously have with opac not working !
15:15 paul_    gmcharlt: ++
15:14 gmcharlt communication is the key, I think
15:14 paul_    hi gmcharlt
15:14 gmcharlt hi paul
15:07 paul     it's very very good to see that LibLime involvement is huge, it's bad to see it's so huge that sometimes they forget the small frenchies...
15:06 paul     owen: nice to read, but you (kados mainly) sometimes seem not to remember that we are also in the boat (frenchism here i think)
15:05 hdl      I just worried because I cannot update now. And I also have to fix some bugs.
15:05 owen     I'm working closely with Joshua on the interface design, and he and I discussed the OPAC overhaul in person.
15:04 owen     Sorry hdl, I got called away from my desk
14:49 hdl      But that's OK.
14:49 hdl      owen : In fact, my opinion is that Joshua should have been careful about this commit.
14:36 hdl      Then Joshua would take them in on a new branch.
14:36 hdl      owen : you could create your own branch on your system and send your commits to joshua.
14:32 owen     I have to be able to make changes with the understanding that the version in Git is a pre-release version
14:32 hdl      The fact is that often, features are linked to display
14:31 owen     But the real issue is: I can't do my job unless I consider Koha 3.0 to be pre-release
14:31 owen     Any bugs you find relating to functionality are distinct from my changes
14:30 owen     Only the layout of the OPAC is being changed at the moment
14:30 owen     Hi, I just got your email
14:30 hdl      sorry to bother you.
14:30 hdl      yes owen.
14:29 owen     hdl here?
14:28 hdl      ok.
14:27 gmcharlt do know we're trying to get Koha 3.0 stabilized for a beta release ASAP
14:27 gmcharlt hdl: not sure about the OPAC roadmap
14:24 hdl      gmcharlt: what is the roadmap for OPAC and when will be the dev release ???
14:22 gmcharlt hdl: don't know, sorry
13:57 hdl      what about owen ?
13:45 gmcharlt hdl: kados is on the road today -- may be popping in at times
13:38 hdl      kados ?
13:38 hdl      not at all.
13:38 hdl      owen around ?
12:45 paul     g'morning fbcit
12:34 fbcit    g'morning koha