Time Nick Message 12:34 fbcit g'morning koha 12:45 paul g'morning fbcit 13:38 hdl owen around ? 13:38 hdl not at all. 13:38 hdl kados ? 13:45 gmcharlt hdl: kados is on the road today -- may be popping in at times 13:57 hdl what about owen ? 14:22 gmcharlt hdl: don't know, sorry 14:24 hdl gmcharlt: what is the roadmap for OPAC and when will be the dev release ??? 14:27 gmcharlt hdl: not sure about the OPAC roadmap 14:27 gmcharlt do know we're trying to get Koha 3.0 stabilized for a beta release ASAP 14:28 hdl ok. 14:29 owen hdl here? 14:30 hdl yes owen. 14:30 hdl sorry to bother you. 14:30 owen Hi, I just got your email 14:30 owen Only the layout of the OPAC is being changed at the moment 14:31 owen Any bugs you find relating to functionality are distinct from my changes 14:31 owen But the real issue is: I can't do my job unless I consider Koha 3.0 to be pre-release 14:32 hdl The fact is that often, features are linked to display 14:32 owen I have to be able to make changes with the understanding that the version in Git is a pre-release version 14:36 hdl owen : you could create your own branch on your system and send your commits to joshua. 14:36 hdl Then Joshua would take them in on a new branch. 14:49 hdl owen : In fact, my opinion is that Joshua should have been careful about this commit. 14:49 hdl But that's OK. 15:04 owen Sorry hdl, I got called away from my desk 15:05 owen I'm working closely with Joshua on the interface design, and he and I discussed the OPAC overhaul in person. 15:05 hdl I just worried because I cannot update now. And I also have to fix some bugs. 15:06 paul owen: nice to read, but you (kados mainly) sometimes seem not to remember that we are also in the boat (frenchism here i think) 15:07 paul it's very very good to see that LibLime involvement is huge, it's bad to see it's so huge that sometimes they forget the small frenchies... 15:14 gmcharlt hi paul 15:14 paul_ hi gmcharlt 15:14 gmcharlt communication is the key, I think 15:15 paul_ gmcharlt: ++ 15:16 paul_ and we were not warned at all of those changes. Worst, kados spoke of a beta release this week. which wa can't obviously have with opac not working ! 15:16 paul_ s/wa/we/ 15:18 gmcharlt yeah, I guess the OPAC is kind of important :) 15:19 gmcharlt we should collectively figure out what features (hopefully not too many) must be present for 3.0 beta 15:19 gmcharlt then freeze except for bugfixes soon 15:27 paul owen will say that it's not new features, it's just relooking. except it's broken today ! 15:31 paul owen around ? 15:31 paul I had added some fields from biblioitems in detail.pl a few weeks ago. The move to yui made them disappear. Can I reintroduce them in detail.pl 15:32 paul + the normal view is still really strange, with 2 columns with a large empty space in the middle. 15:35 owen Yes, paul, the detail page needs a change to better manage the columns in case of Amazon content being enabled/disabled 15:35 paul do you know how you'll do that ? 15:36 owen A TMPL_IF to switch the layout gride 15:36 owen grid. 15:37 owen I'm working on the same issue in the OPAC, so that should help me sort it out. 15:37 paul ok, then i let this for you 15:38 owen But paul, if there are fields missing, please add them. I didn't intentionally remove anything 15:38 paul ok 15:47 fbcit kados: ping 15:49 fbcit who can answer a question about bulkmarcimport.pl? 15:53 paul owen : a bug that is urgent to fix : http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1513 15:53 paul could you take a look pls ? 15:54 paul (we have 2 sites in production with koha 3 and it's really a pain to catalogate atm) 15:54 paul (+ 3 sites testing for a migration asap) 15:55 owen I have taken a look, but I cannot reproduce it on my system. If you have me access to a test system which showed the error, I could try to diagnose from there. 15:55 owen Sorry, if you /give/ me access to a test system... 15:56 paul http://i15.bureau.paulpoulain.com/cgi-bin/koha/mainpage.pl login abel / abel 15:56 gmcharlt fbcit: what's the question? 15:56 paul search chaos 15:56 paul edit 1st biblio (from chaos to covenant) 15:56 paul look at 200 field 15:56 paul click on "Titre et mention de responsabilité" 15:56 fbcit gmcharlt: somewhere this select is issued: SELECT * FROM `class_sources` WHERE cn_source = $1... 15:57 paul you should understand the problem 15:57 fbcit gmcharlt: it is not in Biblio.pm and I cannot seem to locate where it is.... 15:57 fbcit I thought someone might know.. 15:57 fbcit 'grep' did not.... :) 15:59 gmcharlt fbcit: C4/ClassSource.pm 15:59 fbcit tnx 16:13 owen paul, I'll roll back the change that caused your problem, but the fix is easy if you want to make it manually to those who are in production 16:13 owen In function Expandfield(), I changed this: 16:13 owen if (divs[i].style.display == 'block') { 16:13 owen divs[i].style.display = 'none'; 16:13 owen } else { 16:13 owen divs[i].style.display = 'block'; 16:13 owen } 16:14 owen to this: $(divs[i]).toggle(); 16:14 owen ...which was supposed to be an improvement because of its compactness. I'm not sure why it's working for me but not you, but simpler to change it back. 16:15 paul ok, thanks i'll do that immediatly 16:17 paul hdl : it worked previously 16:19 owen hdl, why don't you think it will fix it? 16:19 hdl I thought it just did the same as toggle : 16:20 hdl display of those who were not displayed and hide the others. 16:22 owen paul, will you test on i15.bureau.paulpoulain.com first? 16:22 paul yep 16:22 paul i'll let you know when it's done 16:27 owen I see now that the problem /was/ showing up on my system, but I wasn't looking at the right tag in order to see it 16:27 owen It has something to do with tags which have some subfields hidden in their initial state 16:27 paul yep 16:27 owen The example I was looking at had no hidden subfields in the initial state. I thought it had something to do with /mandatory/ fields 16:28 owen My change fixes it on my system, so I'm hopeful for yours 17:07 owen paul_, any luck? 17:09 paul back... 17:09 paul owen : done, it works (although my dsl is really poor today, you may have problems to test) 17:32 [K] *** join #koha@FreeNode: darcilicious i=plinkit@159.121.122.56 17:33 [K] *** part FreeNode!#koha: darcilicious i=plinkit@159.121.122.56 18:17 fbcit biblioitems.marcxml is set NOT NULL, but when attempting to import some marc data kados sent me, the db complains because the "marcxml" field is being populated with nulls... 18:18 fbcit which is correct? the .mrc or the db schema? 18:25 gmcharlt fbcit: bilbioitems.marcxml should not be null 18:26 gmcharlt potentially there could be an issue where the marc record was not parsed (or not parseable) 18:26 gmcharlt so I suggest making sure that the ->as_xml() call that is producing the XML to store in marcxml 18:26 gmcharlt is producing a non-empty result 19:26 owen Is there a way to turn off item-level holds in the OPAC? 19:26 chris just in the opac? 19:26 owen Yeah 19:26 chris not currently no 19:27 chris they are either on or off 19:27 chris wouldnt be hard 19:27 chris just another syspref 19:27 chris that you pass to the template 19:28 chris whack it in bugzilla :) 19:32 owen I'm pretty clear on that process, I guess, except for getting it into the default database setup. 19:32 owen Are we still using updatedatabase? 19:33 chris yep 2 places, in the sysprefs.sql 19:33 chris and then in updatedatabase.pl 19:33 chris and then paul will port it to french .. and fbcit will port it to the postgres bits :-) 19:34 chris installer/data/mysql/en/mandatory/sysprefs.sql 19:34 chris and 19:35 chris installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl 19:35 chris the first gets in there for all new installs 19:35 chris and updatedatabase.pl will let all of us who have koha 3's running upgrade 19:35 chris make sense? 19:36 owen Yes 19:36 chris cool 19:36 fbcit chris: curiosity... does updatedatabase.pl just keep becoming bigger? or does the *old* stuff roll off at some point? 19:37 chris it rolls off 19:37 owen Looking at updatedatabase.pl, if I want to change the way the YUI pref is stored, I have to add a section that does an "UPDATE `systempreferences` ..." ? 19:37 chris yeah, ... well and insert 19:37 chris sorry an insert 19:39 chris fbcit: updatedatabase.pl will keep getting bigger until we release 3.0 ..and then it will be merged into the update22to30 script 19:39 chris and a new updatedatabase.pl will be started .. which will become the update3.0.0to3.0.1.pl script when 3.0.1 is out 19:41 chris what the updatedatbase.pl script allows us to do is to not have to keep doing a fresh install everytime someone changes something in the db 19:42 chris so a fresh install shouldnt use it 19:49 chris heh 19:49 chris what we will have is scripts to upgrade from release to release 19:49 chris and updatedatabase.pl exists while we work on the next release, and then becomes the script to upgrade to that release 19:50 chris and a new one is started 20:02 owen Can someone better at regexes than me explain this: $dat->{'amazonisbn'} =~ s|-||g; 20:03 gmcharlt owen: get rid of all hyphens 20:04 owen And that's all it does? 20:04 gmcharlt should be, yes 20:04 owen It's supposed to be formatting isbns so that they can be passed to Amazon to grab book covers, reviews, etc. 20:04 owen But just taking out hyphens doesn't take care of all cases 20:05 gmcharlt what cases are missing? 20:05 owen I'm seeing ISBNs with |, (pbk.), and more 20:05 gmcharlt ah, right 20:05 gmcharlt general issue with ISBN normalization that I'm hoping to clean up in a few days 20:06 owen So there will be a more "centralized" solution for getting a clean isbn into the template where it's needed? 20:06 gmcharlt please file a bug report so that I remember to check this specific place 20:06 gmcharlt owen: yes, and also for normalization it for various searching purposes 20:07 gmcharlt normalizing, rather 20:29 JeremyF does anyone have any ideas why the latest version of koha, that i just setup on a windows machine, would not be letting me input users? 21:03 atz JeremyF: permissions 21:03 atz whatever process you're running as doesn't have permissions to edit the files of the user you installed as 21:59 [K] *** join #koha@FreeNode: ru55el n=russel@203-118-134-114.netspace.net.nz 08:27 paul_ chris around ? 08:27 paul some patches in your mailbox