Time  Nick     Message
10:49 kados    you're like switzerland :-)
10:48 kados    hehe
10:48 paul     I vote "abstaint"
10:48 kados    (leave it in in case someone else disagrees :-))
10:48 kados    I will comment out the 'Edit' feature if that's OK
10:47 paul     but I agree it's useless for most libraries. and with complete & correct frameworks, nobody should have to use them except to read
10:46 paul     I use it sometimes. although not often.
10:46 kados    paul: what's your feeling on koha2marclinks? should it be read-only?
10:45 kados    cool
10:45 paul     (the rest seem ok)
10:45 paul     (just 1 line on buildQuery api that changed)
10:45 paul     for that
10:44 paul     i've a patch on the way ;-)
10:34 paul     it's a plugin to build a value from 4 list of things (history, ethnology,...)
10:34 paul     but thy are unimarc, yes.
10:34 kados    *nod*
10:34 paul     not really. it's specific to one of our customer (the frantiq network)
10:33 kados    paul: " [PATCH] specific plugin for Frantiq cnrs network " <-- this is a unimarc plugin?
10:31 kados    ahh, right
10:30 paul     because you can have nothing in the reservoir but somethingin the database
10:30 kados    paul: can you explain why this is important?
10:30 kados    paul: i'm wondering about the addbooks.pl patch, where you don't return if no $marcresults are found
10:29 kados    yes, pretty early, but not too bad
10:29 kados    it's 6:30am
10:29 paul     (what time is it for you. very early if I don"t mind)
10:29 kados    I'm working on some patches
10:29 kados    good morning :-)
10:29 paul     hello kados & good morning
10:28 paul     yep.
10:28 kados    paul: you around?
09:25 masonj   hiya sukhoy27
09:23 Sukhoy27 I all
09:11 paul     i've seen. i'll let you know
09:11 chris    paul: i think ive fixed the problems with reports
09:11 paul     sweet dreams
09:10 chris    cool, ill apply them and send them through in the morning if thats ok
09:09 paul     chris : 6 more patches in your mailbox
09:07 CGI378   can anyone plz suggest me...how do i go abt?
09:07 CGI378   on fedora
09:07 CGI378   i want to install koha on xampp
09:06 CGI378   hello
09:06 paul     i have some more to send
09:06 chris    so they are waiting for him to check them i think
09:05 chris    the RM checks for functionality etc
09:05 chris    they are waiting for joshua
09:05 chris    no i applied them all
09:05 paul     did you miss the other ones ?
09:05 paul     i thought I've sent to you something like 12-15 patches, and only 3 of them are applied now
09:04 chris    yes paul
09:04 paul     chris around ?
09:00 yesan    but not from DBI
09:00 yesan    i am able to connect mysql db from commandline
09:00 chris    yeah im out of ideas :(
08:59 yesan    the issue is
08:59 yesan    is anyone out there to help along chris
08:58 yesan    *chris
08:58 yesan    yes, christ
08:51 chris    with localhost, so i dont know why localhost isnt working from DBI
08:51 yesan    yes,
08:50 chris    it works from the commandline
08:50 chris    that sounds right
08:50 yesan    chris
08:49 yesan    i gave localhost
08:48 yesan    when it asks for hostname
08:48 yesan    localhost or remote bluehost.com
08:48 yesan    i think it seems host problem
08:47 chris    weird, im not sure why its not working it all seems right
08:46 chris    yep
08:46 yesan    chris, r u there
08:46 yesan    yes it has same user name and pass
08:40 yesan    just a moment
08:40 chris    it has the right username and password?
08:40 chris    if you look at that file
08:39 yesan    yes
08:39 chris    in /home/jlcopaco/etc .. is there a file koha.conf?
08:39 chris    its trying localhost
08:38 yesan    is it in localhost or remotely
08:38 chris    usually means that mysql is rejecting the connection
08:37 chris                    database 'jlcopaco_jlckoha' at /home/jlcopaco/koha/intranet/modules/C4/Context.pm line 411
08:37 chris     Access denied for user 'jlcopaco_kohaadm'@'localhost' to
08:37 yesan    ok
08:37 chris    right, so we can connect just fine from there
08:36 yesan    Server version: 5.0.37-standard-log MySQL Community Edition - Standard (GPL)
08:36 yesan    Your MySQL connection id is 265052
08:36 yesan    Welcome to the MySQL monitor.  Commands end with ; or \g.
08:36 chris    thats very weird, i wonder why the DBI connect isnt working
08:36 yesan    i am in mysql commandline
08:35 yesan    yes, it opened
08:35 yesan    ok let try in mysql commandline
08:35 yesan    my directory is in bluehost.com i.e, /home/jlcopaco
08:34 chris    mysql -ujlcopaco_kohaadm -p yourpassword -h localhost jlcopaco_jlckoha
08:34 chris    what happens if you go
08:34 yesan    let me tell u the background
08:33 yesan    yes
08:33 chris    is right eh?
08:33 chris     DBI connect('jlcopaco_jlckoha:localhost','jlcopaco_kohaadm',...)
08:33 chris    and we are sure that its connecting with the right user name and password?
08:33 yesan    u r right
08:32 chris    but the main one is it cant connect to the database
08:32 chris    Couldn't create file at /home/jlcopaco/etc. Must have write capability. is one
08:32 chris    so a few problems
08:31 chris     yes
08:31 yesan    chris do u hear me
08:30 yesan    the above error occured
08:30 yesan    Problem updating database...
08:30 yesan    Can't call method "prepare" on an undefined value at scripts/updater/updatedatabase line 1553.
08:30 yesan    DBI connect('jlcopaco_jlckoha:localhost','jlcopaco_kohaadm',...) failed: Access denied for user 'jlcopaco_kohaadm'@'localhost' to database 'jlcopaco_jlckoha' at /home/jlcopaco/koha/intranet/modules/C4/Context.pm line 411
08:30 yesan    Please check permissions in /home/jlcopaco/koha/intranet/scripts/z3950daemon
08:30 yesan    Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at Install.pm line 1709, <STDIN> line 14.
08:30 yesan    print() on closed filehandle SITES at Install.pm line 1685, <STDIN> line 14.
08:30 yesan    Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at Install.pm line 1685, <STDIN> line 14.
08:30 yesan    Couldn't create file at /home/jlcopaco/etc. Must have write capability.
08:29 chris    so now we have to figure out why :_)
08:28 chris    but it connects fine from the commandline
08:27 yesan    yes
08:26 chris    the installer script could not connect to the database
08:26 yesan    do u remember what was the error or shall post it again
08:24 yesan    let me open my ssh
08:24 yesan    let us talk in this channel, that might help someone :)
08:23 yesan    ok , i am not going to give pass on this general
08:23 yesan    i am opening your prviate channel/status
08:23 chris    but the rest can be on the channel, it might help someone else in the future
08:23 chris    might be best if we are talking about passwords to talk in private
08:23 yesan    talk
08:23 yesan    r u want to talk to you in this general
08:22 chris    if you want
08:22 yesan    shall i open your private channel = chris
08:22 yesan    great
08:21 chris    yep, tired but ok :)
08:20 yesan    r u ok
08:20 yesan    chris, hi
08:19 chris    sorry the focus group took longer (discussing water usage in wellington) and i missed the last direct bus, so had to walk a bit
08:18 chris    back
08:01 yesan    chris, r u there
04:38 yesan    bye
04:37 chris    see you later
04:37 chris    hopefully we can figure it out
04:37 yesan    so kind of you
04:37 yesan    that is fine?
04:36 chris    its 5.30pm here .. and will be available at around 9pm i think
04:35 yesan    @ what time (NZ), you will be avaiable?
04:35 yesan    you mean what time, you would be avialble. it is now10am here in Bangalore
04:34 chris    i have to go now .. i will be back later this evening (nz time)
04:34 yesan    chris r u there
04:34 yesan    sorry for the delay, i had a visitor
04:34 yesan    shall i open my ssh access
04:33 yesan    chris
04:33 yesan    yes, chrui
04:25 chris    from the commandline .. can you connect?
04:25 chris    mysql -ujlcopaco_kohadm -p yourpassword jlcopaco_jlckoha
04:25 chris    if you type
04:25 chris    right
04:24 yesan    i had created mysql user id and pass
04:24 yesan    i cam up to giving email account
04:24 chris    right .. and bluehost had set that mysql user and database up for you?
04:23 yesan    while installing my koha on bluehost.com, i got the above errors,
04:23 yesan    [jlcopaco@box341 koha-2.2.9]$
04:23 yesan    Problem updating database...
04:23 yesan    Can't call method "prepare" on an undefined value at scripts/updater/updatedatabase line 1553.
04:23 yesan    DBI connect('jlcopaco_jlckoha:localhost','jlcopaco_kohaadm',...) failed: Access denied for user 'jlcopaco_kohaadm'@'localhost' to database 'jlcopaco_jlckoha' at /home/jlcopaco/koha/intranet/modules/C4/Context.pm line 411
04:23 yesan    Please check permissions in /home/jlcopaco/koha/intranet/scripts/z3950daemon
04:23 yesan    Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at Install.pm line 1709, <STDIN> line 14.
04:23 yesan    Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at Install.pm line 1685, <STDIN> line 14.
04:23 yesan    Copying OPAC interface to /home/jlcopaco/koha/opac/cgi-bin.
04:23 yesan    Copying OPAC templates to /home/jlcopaco/koha/opac/htdocs.
04:23 yesan    Copying perl modules to /home/jlcopaco/koha/intranet/modules.
04:23 yesan    Copying main scripts to /home/jlcopaco/koha/intranet/scripts.
04:23 yesan    Copying admin interface to /home/jlcopaco/koha/intranet/cgi-bin.
04:23 yesan    Copying files to installation directories:Copying admin templates to /home/jlcopaco/koha/intranet/htdocs.
04:23 yesan    yes, chris, i wonder whether you can help me out
04:22 chris    whats up yesan?
04:22 chris    ill be here for about 5 minutes
04:21 yesan    is one out there to chat with to discuss about koha installation error
04:21 yesan    hi, ryan
18:54 fbcit    I plan on using this install for development. should I backup and change the install location?
18:53 fbcit    ahh.. it here: /usr/local/share/perl/...
18:52 fbcit    hmm... using the defaults on a fresh install of debian etch. did I miss something during the install?
18:51 atz      and probably your installation also
18:51 fbcit    so I need to fix the koha-httpd.conf file
18:51 atz      the koha-tmpl are not part of a perl distro
18:50 atz      should be something like ~/koha
18:50 atz      odd install location
18:49 fbcit    It seems that /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/koha/templates/koha-tmpl/ does not exist after doing make && make install on 3.0...
18:48 fbcit    never could get it to work... same error... git: 'foo' is not a git-command
18:47 atz      did you setup your email name/address in those first 2 git steps ?
18:44 fbcit    I must be missing some of git... can't seem to 'git send-email'...
18:36 atz      odd
18:33 fbcit    Makefile.PL line 108 reads "'$(PREFIX)/share/koha/etc/zebradb/tab/passwd'," but should read "'$(PREFIX)/share/koha/etc/zebradb/etc/passwd',"
18:18 chris    apart from that, i dont know either :)
18:16 chris    im guessing the tab dir does not exist :)
18:15 fbcit    any thoughts on "Can't open /usr/share/koha/etc/zebradb/tab/passwd for read at rewrite-config.PL line 108." with 3.0 code? The 'tab' subdir does not exist...
18:09 rh       I set it to us now
18:08 atz      this may be one of the sections of code we need to clean up
18:08 fbcit    kados: got it :-)
18:08 rh       its set as metric
18:08 rh       ah
18:07 atz      "dateformat"
18:07 atz      this would be in your staff interface  cgi-bin/koha/admin/systempreferences.pl?tab=Admin
18:06 rh       I was about to look at the code.. but isnt there an equivelent of sysdate in mysql?
18:05 rh       date comes back as "Tue Oct 30 06:02:15 EDT 2007" unless your referring to how koha itself is set up
18:05 atz      we've been trying to root out all the lame format-specific hard-coded dates
18:05 rh       hm good question
18:04 atz      rh: what date format is your system preference in?
17:58 fbcit    kados:I cannot get MARC::File::XML (0.87) to compile without forcing it. make test fails w/ "make: *** [test_dynamic] Error 255"
17:47 rh       it doesn't look like the auto calculate of join date is working?
17:20 Sukhoy27 hello
17:20 ryan      $sth2->execute( $borrower->{'borrowernumber'}, "%$type%" )
17:20 ryan     is there some reason to pattern match on itemtype:
17:19 ryan     paul: I'm looking at Circulation::TooMany
17:09 paul     (it's a poorly documented feature)
17:08 paul     atz: you can force a ccl by typing ccl at the beginning of the search query
17:08 paul     search.pl?q=ccl&ti=chaos&limit=au:Charbonneau = don't work
17:07 paul     yep, same for me
17:07 owen     paul, the facets don't work if I follow your example, but they work for me if I do my search via the search forms
17:06 atz      try substituting "&" for the 2nd "="
17:06 paul     typed by hand
17:06 owen     paul, did you type out that query by hand, or did you use a search form?
17:05 paul     (which works, but the facets don't work for that)
17:05 paul     (I did ccl=ti=chaos in my previous test)
17:05 owen     atz, that syntax seems to work with zebra
17:05 paul     right atz. If I just search something simple, it works
17:05 atz      q=x=y=z   isn't going to parse correctly to CGI->new->param
17:04 atz      that would be a more logical syntax
17:03 atz      is the result supposed to be: q=ccl&ti=chaos...  ?
17:03 owen     How did you arrive at that query? The advanced search form?
17:03 atz      i wonder if the multiple "=" is screwing up the query parsing
17:02 paul     (same list, exactly)
17:02 paul     no error, just no change in the result
17:02 owen     paul, are you getting errors, or is it just not working as expected?
16:59 paul     (or i've missed something)
16:59 paul     (and buggued it seems...)
16:59 paul     dunno the limit=au:Charbonneau, should be new afaik
16:58 paul     koha/catalogue/search.pl?q=ccl=ti=chaos&limit=au:Charbonneau
16:58 paul     the url is :
16:58 paul     I search something, then I try to refine my search, and never get nothing.
16:58 paul     they don't work for me
16:58 paul     does facets work well for you at this time ?
16:57 paul     atz / owen , can I ask a quick question about searching ?
16:57 paul     (probably not :-( )
16:57 paul     kados around ?
16:51 Sukhoy27 thanks
16:51 atz      no problem.  good luck!
16:50 Sukhoy27 ok thank you for the help i'll be back tomorrow
16:45 atz      (over 1000 presently)
16:44 atz      there are many users there
16:44 atz      try #ubuntu on irc://irc.freenode.net/ubuntu
16:43 atz      they might know more about how long it will take
16:43 Sukhoy27 trying to find another sources i google it
16:42 atz      you might want to ask on a ubuntu channel what the status is
16:42 Sukhoy27 yes but i could take a century
16:42 atz      probably, yes.   your options are to find alternate sources, or to wait for fr.archives.ubuntu.com to come back online
16:40 Sukhoy27 this mean that i must find the good source ?
16:39 atz      the DB and the package might not be on the same server
16:38 Sukhoy27 No lynx version of the package is available, but it exists in the database. This usually means that the package is missing, it has become obsolete
16:38 Sukhoy27 the google translation of the message issue when i apt-get install lynx
16:36 atz      ... but on the other hand, all your sources are down  :\
16:36 atz      on the one hand, that's good, since at least your system wasn't messed up
16:36 Sukhoy27 ok all the french sources list were down
16:23 Sukhoy27 i will comment this
16:23 Sukhoy27 that what i thin
16:23 atz      that is probably the source of your errors, Sukhoy27
16:22 atz      actually.... i think fr.archive.ubuntu.com is down!
16:22 dbs      Hiya atz
16:22 Sukhoy27 i will uncomment these line in my source.list
16:21 Sukhoy27 some error when connecting to fr.archives.ubuntu.com and to http://ftp.indexdata.dk etch /release
16:21 atz      about 25 lines
16:21 atz      ...
16:21 atz      Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 r0 _Etch_ - Official i386 CD Binary-1 20070407-11:55] etch Release
16:21 atz      Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 r0 _Etch_ - Official i386 CD Binary-1 20070407-11:55] etch Release.gpg
16:21 atz      on my system (debian etch) it looks like:
16:19 atz      and you can "apt-get update"  ok ?
16:17 Sukhoy27 that ok
16:16 atz      Building dependency tree... Done
16:16 atz      Reading package lists... Done
16:16 atz      it should say:
16:15 atz      apt-get check
16:15 atz      first, to make sure apt-get (and other components) are functioning properly, try:
16:13 Sukhoy27 yes
16:13 atz      right?
16:12 atz      (for example)
16:12 atz      so the command you give is something like this:   apt-get install unzip
16:11 Sukhoy27 the result command is in french
16:09 Sukhoy27 deb-src http://ftp.indexdata.dk/debian etch released
16:09 Sukhoy27 deb http://ftp.indexdata.dk/debian etch  released
16:09 Sukhoy27 #For Yaz toolkit
16:09 Sukhoy27 deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-security multiverse
16:09 Sukhoy27 deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-security multiverse
16:09 Sukhoy27 deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-security universe
16:09 Sukhoy27 deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-security universe
16:09 Sukhoy27 deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-security main restricted
16:09 Sukhoy27 deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-security main restricted
16:09 Sukhoy27 deb-src http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-backports main restricted universe multiverse
16:09 Sukhoy27 deb http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-backports main restricted universe multiverse
16:08 Sukhoy27 deb-src http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty multiverse
16:08 Sukhoy27 deb http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty multiverse
16:08 Sukhoy27 deb-src http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty multiverse
16:08 Sukhoy27 deb http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty multiverse
16:06 atz      please also paste the command you are giving apt-get
16:04 atz      what do you have in /etc/apt/sources.list  ?
16:04 Sukhoy27 works
16:03 atz      (ctrl - c   to stop pinging)
16:02 atz      can you ping google.com ?
16:02 Sukhoy27 same thing for lynx, ncftp, gcc, make
16:00 Sukhoy27 when i try apt-get install unzip it said that the packet is missing and obsolete
15:54 atz      what errors do you get?  it sounds like you aren't on the network at all...
15:53 Sukhoy27 i' root
15:53 atz      Sukhoy27: you don't have root access?
15:52 Sukhoy27 I can't install the perl modules librairies, and can't install unzip, ncftp, gcc, lynx
15:47 Sukhoy27 may i ask few question about installation issue on ubuntu server 7.04 ?
15:44 owen     hi Sukhoy27
15:44 Sukhoy27 hello
15:38 hdl      for intranet yes.
15:27 owen     Does serials-collection.pl replace serial-issues.pl?
15:24 hdl      (I thought at first it had to do with Circulation history)
15:22 hdl      owen : Issue History link leads to somewhat curious page (serial-issues.pl) It should lead to serials-collection should it not ?
15:14 owen     Yes, that's why they need a good style of their own. Something prominent but not button-like
15:14 hdl      But it is so little and lost among other links face to big yui buttons ;)
15:13 hdl      I consider serial collection to be a view, since you looking at information about the serial <-  So do I.
15:12 owen     We don't yet have a standardized style for sidebar links. They need to be made clearer
15:11 owen     I consider serial collection to be a view, since you looking at information about the serial
15:11 owen     hdl, the toolbar is for actions, the sidebar for views
15:09 hdl      I am always searching the feature.
15:09 hdl      It is quite unusual for me.
15:09 hdl      ?
15:09 hdl      Why have you put serial collection as a side link.
15:08 hdl      OK owen It works now thanks.
15:06 hdl      rh : I let usmarc ppl send you one.
15:05 owen     hdl: I just wasn't seeing it: you need to change <div id="subscription-years" to <div id="subscription_years" The hyphen should be an underscore
15:01 rh       or maybe can someone just export their z3950servers table? ^^
14:48 hdl      If you have to receive an issue for which you donot know publication date.
14:47 rh       Is there a sql script to import many different entries to the z3950servers table?
14:47 owen     hdl: under what circumstances does the "manage" tab appear on serials-collection.pl. I see it in your example but not in mine
14:42 owen     Can you explain about the "manage" tab?
14:42 hdl      yes owen
14:41 owen     hdl?
14:25 owen     ...and why don't I have it?
14:25 owen     What is that?
14:25 owen     When I look at it, I don't have the "manage" tab.
14:24 owen     Okay, I see that something is stopping jquery from formatting the tabs
14:22 hdl      http://i14.hdlaurent.paulpoulain.com/cgi-bin/koha/serials/serials-collection.pl?subscriptionid=3
14:22 hdl      this is the link for 2007
14:22 hdl      http://i14.hdlaurent.paulpoulain.com/cgi-bin/koha/serials/serials-collection.pl?subscriptionid=#subscription-year-2007
14:22 hdl      (But using only one interface (subscriptionid) is dangerous for tabs since you have two interface : subscriptionid and biblionumber)
14:22 owen     What do you mean, subcriptionid for this page is not filled
14:21 hdl      (subcriptionid for this page is not filled)
14:21 hdl      c) when I click on 2007 year, page goes blank
14:20 hdl      I have no yui NewSubscription button.
14:20 hdl      a) I have no tabs.
14:19 owen     hdl, can you give me any more information?
14:16 owen     I even re-tested with a freshly checked-out copy of serials-collection.tmpl
14:16 owen     Hmmm... that's all it took for me.
14:14 hdl      owen : doesn't look like this is enough.
14:10 owen     hdl: on line 181 of serials-collection.tmpl, change <div id="subscription-years"> to <div id="subscription_years" class="toptabs numbered">
14:00 hdl      This is because there is not only place to define ItemInput and ItemInput framework.
13:59 hdl      But I must update.
13:59 hdl      Now it doesnot truncate things that Way.
13:58 hdl      This is what old item input did.
13:58 hdl      I know.
13:58 owen     Why is that?
13:58 hdl      yes.
13:58 owen     "Coded locati"
13:58 owen     "Source of cl"
13:58 owen     The labels for those fields are all truncated
13:57 owen     hdl, when I go to receive an issue, it opens a panel where I can enter item data
13:52 hdl      You can easily add one subscription from a biblio and a supplier.
13:50 owen     My installation has only sample data, and it doesn't include serials data.
13:50 hdl      It goes wrong.
13:50 hdl      And click on any year.
13:49 hdl      Go to a serials-collection page
13:49 owen     Sure
13:49 hdl      please let me do. Since I am working on it.
13:49 owen     I don't even know what the problem is
13:48 hdl      to restore it ?
13:48 hdl      Is there a solution i could write quickly ?
13:47 hdl      owen : serials-collection.pl tab facility is badly broken.
13:34 hdl      mj: are you slef ?
13:34 hdl      mjare you slef ?
13:26 owen     What is <!-- TMPL_IF name="nonreturns" --> for, in circulation.tmpl?
11:07 mj       hi all. is there any place where I can download koha 3 beta?