Time Nick Message 12:29 kados morning thd 16:01 thd good morning kados 17:52 Jorge hello anybody. 02:51 pupung hi 02:51 dewey bonjour, pupung 02:51 pupung salut dewey 02:52 pupung am i just the only one who thinks koha.org is down? 02:55 pupung hello? 02:55 dewey hello is anyone here 02:55 walter works for me 02:55 pupung ah ok 02:56 pupung connection times out with me 02:56 pupung uhhmm 02:56 walter drag 02:56 masonj yo wal-tar 02:56 masonj hiya pupung 02:56 walter he mason 02:56 walter hey mason 02:56 pupung hey masonj 02:57 pupung :) 02:57 pupung ahh cant really browse koha.org 02:57 pupung heheh 02:58 masonj try a google cache of it , if you really need to see it 02:58 masonj http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:Q9rEgkNDPFkJ:www.koha.org/+koha.org&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&client=opera 02:58 pupung ah ok 02:58 pupung hehehe 02:58 pupung thanks 02:59 masonj its 4 days old... 02:59 masonj ok, im off for a while 04:02 CGI131 hello? 04:02 dewey well, hello is anyone here 04:03 pupung hi CGI131 04:03 CGI131 hello pupung, how are you? 04:04 CGI131 K'm a Koha newbie who has just installed Koha 2.2.5 and I haven't finished setting it up, but I have some questions. Can you please help me? 04:06 pupung ill try my best 04:06 pupung btw, dont you want to install 2.3.0? 04:08 CGI131 Thanks. Here are my questions. 04:08 CGI131 I ran into a bug. I haven't finished going through all the configuration in the online manual, so that might be the cause, but I think it's something else. 04:09 CGI131 I was on the advanced search NPL skin webpage for users and I changed the language from English to French. 04:09 pupung what linux distro are you using 04:09 CGI131 But I think I didn't load French during the installation. 04:09 pupung uhh oh 04:09 CGI131 So it says "internal server error" whenever I try to access the catalog page, so basically the user interface doesn't work. 04:09 pupung wait.. let's wait for the french users here, sorry havent experienced that since i dont use french.. 04:10 pupung internal server error.. did you consult the error logs? 04:10 pupung like of apache's? 04:10 CGI131 I guess it set something in the database that it reads to start up, and then it tries to access a nonexistent file, and the server can't serve it. 04:10 CGI131 Just guessing. 04:10 pupung i usually experience error 500 when mysql is not working 04:11 CGI131 So, do you know of any tables in the mysql database that have the value "English" or "French"? (en or fr)? 04:11 pupung is mysql loaded in your memory 04:11 CGI131 This is not giving a number, it just says 500. 04:11 CGI131 I could reinstall it. Uninstall and reinstall, and put in both english and french. 04:11 pupung did you do that? 04:11 pupung like clear all things,, drop the db 04:12 pupung delete the koha folder and restart? 04:12 CGI131 well, I looked at the logs in (wait... let me find the path) 04:13 CGI131 whoops sorry it just says "internal server error" 04:13 CGI131 the path is /usr/local/koha/logs 04:13 pupung uhuh 04:13 pupung how bout /var/log/apache 04:13 CGI131 Thank you, I'll check that, one second ... 04:16 CGI131 well, i looked but it doesn't give any names of files, or anythiing that looks descriptive that would point to the problem 04:16 CGI131 the apache error log, that is 04:17 pupung hmm how bout mysql 04:17 pupung did you check the logs of your mysql? 04:18 CGI131 No, I'm sorry, do you know where they are? 04:19 CGI131 Mysql is loaded, I think - It's running, you can see it with "ps aux" in the process table. 04:19 pupung i think it's in /var/log/mysql 04:19 pupung ahh ok 04:19 CGI131 Thanks, let me check. 04:21 CGI131 There is a /var/log/mysqld.llg but it jsut seems to have messages in it like "mysqld ended", "mysqld started", and some stuff "you should upgrade your hardware" 04:21 CGI131 The last thing it says is "ready for connections" 04:21 CGI131 So I don't think that's it. 04:22 CGI131 The koha logs have lots of information. Maybe I'll try to connect to the koha webpage again, and then see what are the last messages in the logs. 04:23 CGI131 Huh, well, it's back now, so who knows what that was. 04:23 pupung yeah 04:23 pupung but did you try to reinstall koha? 04:23 CGI131 I mean the page is showing the search engine page, without the "internal server error" - let me try searching once. 04:23 CGI131 I didn't reinstall. It just righted itself somehow. 04:24 CGI131 Maybe having to do with my closing the staff client page? 04:24 CGI131 I have no idead. 04:25 CGI131 I would like to update to the most recent stable version - I think it's 2.2.9 04:25 CGI131 Do you know which version(s) of Fedora Core or Debian it will work with? 04:25 CGI131 I'm afraid of upgrading to the latest Fedora Core and then finding it doesn't work and I have to downgrade, because I'm not sure how to downgrade. 04:26 pupung ofcourse any version of koha will work on debian 04:26 pupung dunno with FC 04:26 CGI131 Also, I heard Koha doesn't work with MySQL 5 (or I read it). 04:26 CGI131 Will Koha work with any version of Debian? 04:26 pupung yeah 04:26 pupung koha is developed on debian 04:27 CGI131 Yes, but do you know, sometimes if you have the latest version of something, then applications don't work on it. 04:27 pupung just stay with mysql 4.0 04:27 pupung or 4.1 04:27 pupung there are backports.. 04:27 pupung ex. dotdeb 04:28 pupung dotdeb.org 04:30 CGI131 Do you know, something else is strange. I can't find the page I was looking at before, that had options like "make purchase requests", "book shelf", "recently read history". 04:30 CGI131 I don't see it? Do you where it is? 04:31 CGI131 Maybe because I was logged in as KohaAdmin on one window, it took a cookie setting or something, and made it look like I was logged in? 04:32 CGI131 Oh, yeah, that's what it was. 04:33 pupung you mean you're at the opac? 04:33 CGI131 But it's still working, yeah. 04:34 CGI131 Well, I'll be careful not to do that. Maybe I'll look at the source of the html. 04:34 CGI131 I have a feeling that if I run into more trouble, I'll have to upgrade, because I doubt they're maintaining the old versions of Koha. 04:35 CGI131 Thank you very much, Pupung. 04:35 CGI131 What are backports? 04:36 pupung ohh its the a compatible version of an old package for a new version of a distribution 04:37 pupung it's like installing mysql 4.0 at an ubuntu feisty which bundles 5.0 04:37 CGI131 It may have had something to do with the file /cgi-bin/koha/changelanguage.pl 04:37 CGI131 That's what's at that part of the form in the HTML source. 04:38 CGI131 Do you mean it's a mirror to download MySQL 4.0? 04:38 CGI131 Or it points to them? 04:38 pupung mysql 4.0 requires files that are no longer available in newer linux distro 04:39 pupung you need backports to install it 04:39 CGI131 Does dotdeb have those files, or tell where to get them? 04:41 CGI131 It's not just for Debian, it has resources for Ubuntu, too? 04:41 pupung yes dotdeb has them 04:41 pupung ohh for ubuntu, just point your apt to older versions like warty or hoary 04:41 pupung they should be compatible 04:43 CGI131 May I please ask you which versions you are running of Koha, Linux, MySQL, Apache, and Perl? 04:43 pupung Koha 2.2.9 (planning to upgrade to 2.3.0) 04:43 pupung Ubuntu Feisty 04:43 pupung Mysql 4.1 04:43 pupung Apache 2.0 04:44 pupung Perl 5.8 04:44 pupung well ill be installing a new linux distro called freespire 04:45 CGI131 Thank you. What's FreeSpire? Is it a flavor of Linux like Ubuntu or Debian? 04:45 CGI131 How stable is the Koha 2.2.9 that you're running? 04:47 CGI131 Oh, I see the FreeSpire website, it says Freespire 2.0 begins with Ubuntu (Version 7.04) as its baseline. 04:49 pupung yeah 04:49 pupung hehehe 04:49 pupung it's a cute desktop 04:49 pupung well i have to have a desktop on top of a server 04:49 pupung it's pretty frustrating 04:49 pupung we lack funds to purchase a dedicated server 04:50 pupung good thing about freespire is that it bundles propriety drivers.. 04:55 CGI131 Thank you very much for all your help. Do you know anyone who is using a recent version of Koha on a Fedora Core system? 04:56 pupung errmm 04:56 pupung sorry i have no idea who uses such 04:57 CGI131 Have a good night, Pupung. Thank you. 04:57 pupung sure 04:57 pupung you too 04:57 pupung anyway it's 1pm here