Time Nick Message 11:33 Brooke bonjour paul, henri 11:33 Brooke howdy 06:09 masonj_ yep, you too 06:09 CGI971 Have a good night! 06:09 CGI971 Thank you, masonj, for all your patience and help! I really appreciate it. I will work on it some more tomorrow. 06:08 CGI971 I have to get up tomorrow at 6 o'clock - that leaves me 7 hours of sleep, so I better go. 06:08 masonj_ thats about it, 06:08 masonj_ make install (as root) 06:08 CGI971 Yep, I see it! 06:08 masonj_ make 06:08 masonj_ ./configure 06:07 masonj_ cd into the yaz dir 06:07 masonj_ not really 06:07 CGI971 Okay, well I'll try it. Will it matter that it came from the yaz directory instead of the fc3 directory? 06:05 masonj_ there will be a nice README in the yaz tar , that will tell u all that 06:04 masonj_ but im not sure why it doesnt like your libc 06:04 CGI971 I don't know how to compile it manually. Does it have a make file? Or do you run "configure"? 06:04 masonj_ i guess the newer versions of yaz , need a newer libc 06:03 CGI971 parts of it - not the whole thing 06:03 CGI971 I will see if I can copy and paste this transcript into my email list post. 06:03 masonj_ hmmm, nah i dont 06:02 CGI971 Do you know? 06:02 CGI971 So I don't know what the (GLIBC_2.4) means, or why it doesn't like the libc.so.6's I already have 06:01 CGI971 libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.4) is needed by yaz-2.1.50-1.i386 06:01 CGI971 and some others, but the message is 06:01 CGI971 one odd thing is that if I do a "locate libc.so" I find /lib/i686/libc.so.6 06:01 masonj_ lots of people have done yaz setups that way, with good success 06:00 masonj_ u can always just grab that, and try compilling it manually too 06:00 masonj_ http://ftp.indexdata.dk/pub/yaz/yaz-2.1.50.tar.gz 06:00 CGI971 Thank you for all your help, MasonJ, and have a good evening! 06:00 CGI971 well, if you subscribe to the koha mailing lists, you'll see my dumb newbie questions unleashed on the whole world soon 05:58 masonj_ which might not leave u much space :), but hey... 05:58 CGI971 okay, I will try that if I do it. 05:58 masonj_ just tell the deb partition manager to leave alone the current fc3 /home partition 05:57 CGI971 Well, I think that would work if they were previous Debian home directories, but I wonder if it will work when crossing over from Fedora to Debian. 05:56 masonj_ yeah, if you set it up that way during the deb install 05:55 CGI971 Do you think that would leave the data partition, like home directories, in tact? 05:55 masonj_ looks like the net is back on over here... 05:55 masonj_ yeah, but if your boss doesnt mind, try putting debian on the box 05:54 CGI971 especially if I upgrade and have to do it again or several more times 05:53 CGI971 not how you usually want to spend your Sunday 05:53 masonj_ ow 05:53 masonj_ ah, i take that back 05:53 CGI971 But running "yum update"'s for 9 hours yesterday was a bit of an education. 05:52 CGI971 I never used it except yesterday and one other day. 05:52 masonj_ u currently know waaaaaay more about fedora than i do :) 05:52 CGI971 ...yes? 05:51 masonj_ lets put it this way...... 05:51 CGI971 Now I'm hitting you with all these questions. I'm sorry. You probably need to be elsewhere. 05:51 CGI971 If I upgrade to FC4, do you think it will leave the data partitions in place (like with all of my boss's personal data in his home directory?) 05:50 CGI971 Or can any machine run a 64-bit operating system? 05:49 CGI971 Do you know if "64-bit" depends on the CPU or the memory bus or some other hardware? 05:48 CGI971 I've seen stuff about FC7, but it says something about 64-bit. So I didn't know if it would work with this old computer. 05:48 masonj_ and save yourself some pain 05:47 masonj_ set up a debian box, or a newer fedora 05:47 masonj_ june 2005 05:46 masonj_ well, looks like they are up to fc6, so fc3 is kinda old 05:45 CGI971 I read that Koha was developed using Debian. 05:45 CGI971 That's what we have at work, but I wanted to try it at home, and my boss loaned me a Linux machine with FC3 on it. 05:44 masonj_ hmm, no idea actually, most of the developers use debian 05:44 CGI971 Do you know what Fedora Core most people are using with Koha? 05:44 CGI971 Well FC4 is an idea. 05:43 CGI971 I mean other dependencies might break or something. 05:43 masonj_ well, i guess the simple answer is upgrade to fc4 05:43 CGI971 and might mess things up if I install them 05:43 CGI971 So the files that yaz needs are probably beyond FC3 05:42 masonj_ yeah, it can be a little bit of a dependancy dance 05:42 CGI971 So everything is the latest for FC3 05:42 CGI971 Yesterday I did a complete yum update (yum is the package/rpm manager for Fedora) 05:42 CGI971 But this causes other incompatibilities. 05:41 CGI971 I downloaded yaz...2.1.50-1 from fc5, because the error message said I needed at least 2.1.50. 05:41 masonj_ nah, the wireless here has started playing up, and my vi/ssh sessions are lagging like crazy 05:40 CGI971 Do you think I should post this on the email list? 05:40 CGI971 Are you stuck, too? 05:40 masonj_ hmm, so have you tried grabbing a yaz*rpm from fc5, and installing that? 05:40 CGI971 I'm glad it's not late there. 05:40 CGI971 It is about 10:45 pm here, Monday night. 05:39 masonj_ nah, 6pm here 05:39 masonj_ new zealand 05:39 CGI971 I hope it is not getting into the wee hours for you. 05:39 CGI971 Where are you located, masonj? 05:38 masonj_ right , but fc3 , only has yaz.2.1.8 tho... 05:38 CGI971 In fact, I have that open in another browser window. 05:37 CGI971 Yes, that's where I found it. 05:37 masonj_ http://ftp.indexdata.dk/pub/yaz/redhat/ 05:37 CGI971 Hmmm? 05:36 masonj_ probably not 05:36 CGI971 Does this mean I need to upgrade to Fedora Core 5? 05:36 masonj_ gimme a tic... 05:36 CGI971 What should I do? 05:35 CGI971 libc.so.6, libcrypto.so.6, libssl.so.6 05:35 masonj_ right, a workaround is to grab yaz from indexdata's ftp site 05:35 CGI971 but now it says "Failed dependencies" 05:35 CGI971 (of FC5) 05:35 CGI971 Okay, so back to installing YAZ, this time 2.1.50-1 05:35 CGI971 Well, I think this won't work well with FC3, but I try it any way 05:34 CGI971 So I see in the YAZ repository that 2.1.50 is in the FC5 directory 05:34 CGI971 ZOOM-Perl requires at least version 2.1.50 of Yaz but you only have version 2.1.8 05:34 masonj_ right , ive been thru this a few times too :) 05:33 CGI971 this gives an error 05:33 CGI971 but then I'm trying the next Perl module, Net::Z3950 05:33 masonj_ right 05:33 CGI971 so the perl -MCPAN -e 'install Event' goes fine 05:33 masonj_ im a bit rusty on redhat 05:33 masonj_ aah 05:33 CGI971 I'm on Redhat Fedora Core 3 now. 05:33 CGI971 Then I try to install the remaining Perl modules 05:32 masonj_ u are running debian? 05:32 CGI971 Which was for FC3, yaz-2.1.8-1 etc 05:32 CGI971 So I just installed Yaz 05:32 masonj_ uhuh... 05:32 CGI971 Okay, I am following Joshua Ferraro's install manual for Fedora Core 1, 2, 3 05:32 masonj_ hit me 05:31 masonj_ a quickie, im about to shoot off 05:31 CGI971 Hey Mason, are you up for another question? 05:31 masonj_ heya cgi :) 05:30 dewey hello is anyone here 05:30 CGI971 hello? 05:09 [K] *** part FreeNode!#koha: ru55el n=russel@203-118-134-114.netspace.net.nz 05:08 [K] *** join #koha@FreeNode: ru55el n=russel@203-118-134-114.netspace.net.nz 03:05 CGI268 bye 02:58 masonj lol, ill need 'em 02:58 CGI268 Much luck with your SQL queries. 02:57 CGI268 Okay, well I'll be back again with more dumb newbie questions. 02:57 masonj yeah, exactly 02:57 CGI268 Thank you for pointing that out, and for the helpful info! 02:57 CGI268 I guess it's like the Fedora Core number and the kernel version are different? 02:56 masonj cool, thats not so old :) 02:56 CGI268 whew 02:56 CGI268 Thanks you very much! It's 3.1. 02:55 CGI268 okay, thanks 02:55 masonj try a 'cat /etc/debian_version' 02:55 masonj the 2.6 from yr uname is the kernel version , i think 02:54 CGI268 I think the Koha installation documents are only for Debian 3.0 and 3.1, but ours seems to be 2.6? 02:52 masonj yep, the developers have their irc clients always in the #koha channel 02:51 CGI268 are people always on here? 02:51 CGI268 uname -a: Linux harley 2.6.8-2-386 #1 Tue Aug 16 12:46:35 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux 02:51 masonj yeah, just have a go, then when u get stuck, jump back on 02:50 masonj hmm, how old? :) 02:50 CGI268 I suppose I should research my questions before bothering you, unless it's an easy answer. 02:49 CGI268 Like I think our version of Debian is older than what's mentioned in the Koha documentation. 02:49 masonj yeah, no probs, there are a few newbie guides/pages about 02:48 CGI268 I have a lot of newbie questions. I should probably look through the email list archive. 02:48 masonj left and right joins... 02:48 masonj learning tricky sql joins 02:47 masonj im fiddling with a reserves report 02:47 CGI268 What's up with you, masonj? 02:47 CGI268 I'm thinking about installing Koha. 02:47 masonj whats up cgi? 02:46 CGI268 three of us? 02:46 masonj i am! 02:46 masonj me! 02:46 dewey hello is anyone here 02:46 CGI268 hello? 00:26 [K] *** part FreeNode!#koha: ru55el n=russel@203-118-134-114.netspace.net.nz 00:26 [K] *** join #koha@FreeNode: ru55el n=russel@203-118-134-114.netspace.net.nz 23:32 [K] *** part FreeNode!#koha: ru55el n=russel@203-118-134-114.netspace.net.nz 23:32 [K] *** join #koha@FreeNode: ru55el n=russel@203-118-134-114.netspace.net.nz 22:57 [K] *** part FreeNode!#koha: darci|mtg n=plinkit@159.121.122.150 20:10 [K] *** join #koha@FreeNode: rangi n=nnchris@203.118.134.114 19:58 dewey hola, slef 19:58 slef hi 19:57 chris just saying hi :) 19:56 dewey rumour has it chris is now too 19:56 slef chris? 18:59 chris hey slef 18:38 [K] *** #koha@FreeNode names: darcilicious rangi [K] 18:38 slef /names 17:38 [K] *** part FreeNode!#koha: ru55el n=russel@203-118-134-114.netspace.net.nz 17:37 [K] *** join #koha@FreeNode: ru55el n=russel@203-118-134-114.netspace.net.nz 14:38 [K] *** join #koha@FreeNode: darcilicious n=plinkit@159.121.122.150 13:16 chris hiya owen 13:15 kados morning owen 13:15 owen Hi guys 13:10 chris morning 13:04 hdl hi hdl 13:04 kados hdl: hi :-) 13:04 kados (cool) 13:04 paul (hdl is around, & will probably be more available) 13:04 kados http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:development:git_usage 13:04 kados and wrote some docs: 13:03 kados paul: git.koha.org 13:03 kados paul: we finished migrating koha to git 13:03 paul no, i'm with my 2 caledonian students 13:03 kados paul: chris is here in athens 13:03 kados hiya 13:03 paul hi kados. 13:03 kados paul: around?