Time Nick Message 12:23 hdl hi jaron 12:24 jaron good day hdl 12:25 jaron hdl: you're taking vacation soon? Are you going away? 12:25 hdl next week. 12:26 hdl for 2 weeks. 12:26 hdl going in the alps take some rest and care about my wife and little daughter. 12:27 jaron sounds great! 13:20 hdl hi owen. 13:21 hdl kados around? 13:21 owen hi hdl 13:25 kados hdl: yep 13:25 hdl hi kados 13:25 kados hdl: did you just disable the 'facets' 'refine search' for nozebra? 13:26 hdl *I* didn't nothing with nozebra. 13:26 kados ahh 13:26 hdl maybe toins did. 13:26 hdl I donot have nozebra. 13:26 kados oops, you're right 13:26 hdl yet 13:27 toins kados: yes i did it 13:27 kados toins: what's the reason nozebra shouldn't have refine option? 13:27 hdl kados : I had a question about datedue onloan tag in ccl.properties. 13:28 hdl It refers to 9952 attrubute. 13:28 kados right 13:28 hdl I cannot see it in bib1.att 13:28 toins kados: paul told me it could be impossible to do iirc 13:28 toins and paul has coded NZgetRecords as this => return (undef,NZorder($result,@$sort_by_ref[0],$results_per_page,$offset),undef); 13:28 kados toins: ? it shouldn't be, just pull out the MARC from biblioitems.marc IIRC 13:28 kados toins: ahh 13:28 toins the last undef is the $facets attributs 13:29 kados hdl: strange 13:30 kados hdl: it's probably 9522 13:30 hdl facets are generated via scan zebra feature iirc. 13:30 kados hdl: typo I think 13:30 kados facets are generated from zebra's 'present' feature 13:30 kados which just pulls out binary MARC 13:30 kados we could do the same with mysql if we wanted 13:31 kados hdl: I think it's a typo 13:31 kados hdl: 9522 is onloan for NPL 13:31 hdl it is I that made a type. 13:31 hdl it is I that made a typo 13:31 hdl But I donot have 9522 in bib1 13:32 kados bib1 and record.abs are, in some ways, going to be customized per library I think 13:33 kados every library that changes their frameworks to use different holdings fields will also need to change record.abs 13:33 hdl Are you kidding ? 13:33 kados to index those holdings 13:35 toins kados: but biblioitems.marc is already used in koha3.0 ? 13:36 hdl toins : marc is used. I think so 13:37 toins ah... 13:37 hdl look at ModBiblio 13:39 kados toins: ? does Koha 3.0 use biblioitems.marc or biblioitems.marcxml? 13:39 toins biblioitems.marcxml 13:40 kados so we should remove biblioitems.marc then 13:40 kados to avoid confusion 13:42 toins hdl: currently yes but i think paul told to remove it for the future 13:42 hdl yes. it is forecast. 17:04 hdl kados : 17:05 hdl next time you want to factorize list creation (such as order lists in opac or in intranet) 17:05 hdl I urge you, i implore you, i beg you 17:05 hdl to use TMPL_INCLUDE rather than a perl script. 17:05 hdl Pls Pls Pls. 17:09 kados list creation? 17:09 kados you are referring to the lists in the OPAC for language, etc.? 17:09 kados because my intent is to store those in the databse, not in a template 17:09 kados because every library will want a different set 17:09 kados and I want local modifs to survive an upgrade 19:05 thd kados: are you there? 19:14 thd ryan: are you there? 19:37 ryan hi thd 19:37 thd ryan: hello 19:38 thd ryan: I asked Mike Taylor off list how much fixing Unicode support for Zebra would cost 19:39 ryan uh-oh :) 19:39 ryan big number ? 19:39 thd ryan: his answer today was $11,000 if they could get a commitment in a week or two for the funds payable at some later time 19:40 thd ryan: they already have a large commitment which is about to expire soon 19:41 thd ryan: I know you do not need this for your existing customers and maybe for no prospective customers at the moment 19:42 thd ryan: however, I know someone who might be able to contribute something to that if opencataloger would be ready soon 19:43 thd ryan: what is the prospect for a more functional demo of opencataloger than the one I saw 19:43 thd ? 19:43 ryan afaik, there will be a fully functional cataloging client ready at the end of August 19:43 ryan when did you look at the demo ? 19:44 thd ryan: the end of August is not a week or so which Mike Taylor had stipulated 19:44 thd ryan: how functional might a demo be in a week? 19:46 ryan i'm not sure what you looked at... 19:46 ryan the new google gears stuff ? 19:46 ryan or the previous interface ? 19:47 thd ryan: definitely the previous interface on which toins was working when foxnorth was just getting started 19:48 thd ryan: do you have a URL to the current status? 19:49 ryan i'm not sure if it's public facing. 19:49 ryan send an email to josh; he can get you access 19:50 ryan functionally, it's probably at a similar place as what you saw 19:50 thd ryan: I was preparing an email 19:50 ryan the interface is quite nice 19:51 ryan it's looking really sharp imo 19:51 thd ryan: do you have any prospective Asian language customers expressing an interest in Koha? 21:04 chris thd: you about? 21:04 thd chris: yes 21:04 chris http://groups.google.com/group/kohataiwan/files 21:05 chris http://koha.wikispaces.com/ 21:06 chris anthony mao in taiwan has done lots of work with Koha and Chinese 21:06 thd chris: presumably they are not using Zebra 21:06 chris im not sure, but im guessing not 21:07 thd chris: they could have romanised access to the major access points in 256 characters with Zebra currently 21:08 chris they might be good to talk though, because they will have a vested interest in zebra and utf8 21:08 thd chris: yes, exactly 21:08 chris even nz does 21:09 chris to search maori correctly 21:09 thd chris: Is that an issue for your libraries currently? 21:09 chris so we need to get an nz client who wants 3.0 21:09 chris not currently 21:09 chris but before they upgrade yep 21:09 chris none of the nz ones are using zebra at the moment 21:10 chris though they would like too 21:10 chris mind you, romanised search would be at least as good as they other ILS's do for maori 21:10 chris but we dont want to just be as good, we want to be better :) 21:11 thd koha should always be better when it can be 21:12 thd chris: Mike Taylor has told me that there is an advantage to obtaining a commitment within a week or so for the remaining $11,000 21:12 chris right 21:13 chris i dont think we will be able to do much about that unfortunately 21:14 thd chris: I am preparing a private message to CC to Koha developers to see if there is any interest in making any commitment towards that at the present time 21:14 chris cool 21:15 jaron thd++ 21:15 thd chris: Mike said that it would take six months work which they could start now 21:16 chris k 21:18 masonj morning #koha 21:22 thd chris: would messages from Anthony Mao be found in the koha-devel list? 21:24 chris yeah probably in the main list too 05:09 [K] *** part FreeNode!#koha: ru55el n=russel@203-118-134-114.netspace.net.nz 06:32 shakirlkhan hello ne help me koha installation 06:34 shakirlkhan ne body can help in koha 06:34 shakirlkhan it mean one is here 06:34 shakirlkhan its mean no one is here 06:34 shakirlkhan ok thanks 06:35 shakirlkhan bye